The Breaking of the Loop Current in the Gulf Stream

[morguana]

thank you avalonians for your time and effort spent reading around this subject and for posting lots of interesting info
love
m

[TOTHE]

We could use this as a possible 4th. source for GOM & Gulf Stream data..

Naval Research Laboratory real-time experiment with the 1/25° Gulf of Mexico HYCOM The archives do go back to June.
http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycom...ll_public.html

Information about the consorium.
http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomGOM2/prologue.html

HYCOM website..called experiment here too. Archives go back to 2003.
http://www.hycom.org/

Found more papers on the loop current.
Mega-flood triggered European ice age: At the end of this article I find JPL is going political trying to downplay the significance of a Gulf Stream slow down...in other words they don't know or are total jerks.
Part or text from link below.

"Scientists say they have found the trigger of a sharp cooling 13,000 years ago that plunged Europe into a mini ice age......
The finding has confirmed past theories about the likely cause of a sudden cooling period called the Younger Dryas when temperatures in Europe plunged into ice age conditions that lasted for about 1400 years."
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...1/2862429.htm?
Index
http://search.abc.net.au/search/sear...meta_v=science

[TOTHE]

Different NOAA site: The EMC Marine Modeling Center where you can change the parameters e.g., depth. Has screens for SST (temp), SSH (height), SSS (salinity) and SSI (velocity) with archives going back 3 months.
GOM
http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/ofs/viewe...rundate=latest

Atlantic
http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/ofs/viewe...rundate=latest

Home page
http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/

[bashi]

Hi folks,
the Loop Current shows a repeatedly occurring phenomena: The creation of a closed circle of water streams within the Gulf of Mexico.

This process is called the “shedding of an Loop Current Eddy (LCE)”.

An oceanographic expert should know that, and also any scientist who has done his homework properly.

It looks like as if the Loop Current got disrupted or cut, but it is only a reoccurring variation within a very complex system of currents.
This creation of Eddies has been observed for long by scientists, which were also worried about the effect of this phenomena on the Gulf Stream.
Here an intro by experts:

A reconnection between Loop Current and eddy can happen even within days.
Here the time which has lapsed inbetween the creation of a new eddy:

It can be read like this:
In-between the time of July 1973 and December 2003 a period lapse of 6 months happened 7 times. Also the a period of 11 months happened 7 times. A period of 9 months happened 4 times; and so on.
It shows that the creation of an Eddy has happened 38 times within the observed period of 1973-2003.

So this is a re-occuring natural phenomena.

source: http://www.ejournal.unam.mx/atm/vol19-1/ATM19104.pdf

As can be seen, the time period in-between the creation of a new eddy varies considerably.


Here a picture of an eddy called “Ulysses” in 2004:




Again: This phenomena is not new and nothing to worry about; at least not for now.

It does not explain the modification of the pictures presented by Dr. Zangari. It looks as if something is not right.


The disruption of the Gulf Stream was triggered by an event which caused also the " Clovis Extinction Event" for the north amercian region, which is VERY much worth looking at (Tip: look also at "Usselo Horizon" for the european region)....


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[jeannacav]

Hi everybody,

The posts and links have been great.
Thanks for this thread.

I have been following the noaa visible loop and I would like to add that here.

noaa visible north atlantic loop

It requires flash.
What I noticed over the past couple of months is that there is very little humidity inside the gulf.

Now figure this...
Corexit, because of the toluene or benzene in it, is basically a 'drier' chemical. It is the stuff found in varnishes to make them dry in 1 day and not 1 week.

So, it is VERY likely that there CANNOT be a hurricane in the gulf this year simply because it is too dry.
The ocean and gulf temperatures can get as warm as they will, but the warmth is probably an indication of humidity that can feed a storm. Without the clouds, there will be no storm!

So, that is the reason I want to make this 'loop video' easy to find and so post it here, so we can watch the humidity as the visible loop shows it.

thank you,

jeanna

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Climate Change: Move or Adapt
Dr. Marcia K. McNutt, director of the U.S. Geological Survey in the Department of the Interior , answered questions in a March 17 CO.NX webchat on climate adaptation. I have included the text part that discusses the Gulf Stream and the Haiti earthquake. Remember that the Yucatan Current feeds into the GOM. If we see an increase in oscillations, the earthquake could be a contributing factor. Please read the whole interview to see the big picture.
BTW, thank you for the links Jeannacav and Bashi..that's the way to go!

Read more: http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-en...#ixzz0wWhpqQhY

Manyy people think of sea level rise as simply filling up a bathtub. You know, glaciers melt, ocean expands from thermal expansion and it fills up. But what many people don’t understand is that that is actually the smallest component of sea level rise. That there are actually a number of other contributors to sea level rise that if we call that the eustatic component that is due to glaciers melting and thermal expansion of the ocean that there’s actually is a component due to tectonic effects, which are very well known on active margins such as Sumatra, Haiti, the west coast of the U.S., anywhere around the ring of fire in the Pacific Ocean and in the Indian Ocean.

And then there’s oceanographic effects, changes in ocean circulation, which is anywhere around the Gulf Stream or any place like that. For example, the Haiti earthquake, the magnitude 7 Haiti earthquake, undid 150 years of sea level rise. And that was a strike slip earthquake. It wasn’t even a thrust earthquake like Sumatra, but 150 years of sea level rise was undone by that one earthquake. Oceanographic effects which we expect to change with climate change are much larger than simply the melting of glaciers in terms of their effect on sea level rise.

[Swami]

Something to keep in mind........

Down here in the Lowlands every ship faster than 20 km/hour and ships longer than 15 meters is obliged to get new hydrografical maps every year.
There are daily changes in depth and (because off) currents.

I'm not saying that nothing is "wrong" with the north Atlantic Gulfstream, but I have seen several threads on this this subject now and I think A LOT of fearmongering is going on.

I think THIS is the article it all started with...........

Again, before someone chops my head off, I'm not saying the conveyor belt is acting normally.......

Maybe we should ask David Wilcock because he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, at least thats what he tells....
Edgar Cayce predicted this:

The first sign of this change in the Earth's core would be the "breaking up of some conditions" in the South Pacific and "sinking or rising" in the Mediterranean or Etna area. Cayce forecast that, by the end of the century, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco would be destroyed. He said that "the greater portion of Japan must go into the sea" at this time, and that northern Europe would be "changed as in the twinkling of an eye." In 1941, Cayce predicted that lands would appear in the Atlantic and the Pacific in the coming years, and that "the coastline now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many of the battlefields of (1941) will be ocean, will be the sea, the bays, the lands over which the new order will carry on their trade as with one another."

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/phoebe.htm

To be honest, I'm more worried about this.
Especially this link MorningSong posted. See what happened with the Earth Magnetic field!

Anyone have any suggestions???
Go here http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/ and look at every image since 1AM! Incredible!!!

Could these two phenomena be related.....?

[bashi]

Here some pics to get a better idea:

See the red "blob" developing in to the north?

Thats the shedding of the Loop Current Eddy (LCE) of this year:

Start in January:

[bashi]

As you can see the Eddy gets weaker and weaker, somehow normalising the situation.





Here now the velocities of the Gulf Stream in September this year:





and from September last year:

I am not able to see anything dramatic, apart from some statistical fluctuations.
So don't worry, in my opinion it' s a hype and there are other, more serious issues to worry about

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