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    we make the assumption that they are malevolent or benevolent ....In reality I can't say with any absolute certainty. I certainly didn't see anythign threatening on there or something I didn't already know. don't if they erectors of the monument are programmers I do note they blatantly stating the obvious. it may very well be intended for that purpose to send people into a panic by the way they translate things. It's translated differently depending on one's own programming . If we are all just expecting someone or something to come kill us that is what we'll see--in anything.

    Who knows for absolutely sure it may be a social experiment to see how reactive we all are. We show through our behaviors how easily or not so easily misled we are.


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    9e9, ok backtracking a bit here but, are we assuming the ones that erected the guidestones are malevolent or benevolent?.....

    .....meaning are the ones who built the monument also the ones who did the societal programming?

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    An odd thought before I go wander out in the cold. What if religion was a means of masking different forms of humans. Obviously we are the same in having a basic functional physical form, but we do have obviated differences culturally and phsyicallly. Skin color for one, which we are NEVER supposed to talk about because if we notice that someone is a different color than us we are RACISTS!!

    That mechanism too is a program, we are cast in a bad light if we examine cultural and environmental differences for examples of variants in humanity. "No , the pygmies of south africa are just like us, don't you suggest otherwise or you are a hater!" We can't advance towards having answers because a socially created judgement is laid.

    Religion wasa means of not examing the people we co exist with too closely to find out what is human? Make us all believe we are just exactly the same even the eye tells us we are not. .

    We tend to think of humans as spirit and flesh. Or rather something intangible animating us instead a flesh suit. David Icke has touched on this , just becuase a human looking form is present doesn't mean that is an actual human. A wolf and a dog is a canine but a dog is not a wolf. A doneky and a horse are related by a donkey isn't a horse. A pony isn't remotely approaching a horse, they are markedly differen. A lion isn't a cat even though they are both felines. Every speicies has a sub genre it would seem peculiar that we would be the only speicies that did not.

    And for those people who don't really give a **** they'll end up inheiriting the earth...lol.

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    People keep going on about "a plan" for the elite to kill most of us off. There doesn't need to be any plan. Most of the things mentioned as examples of elites killing us off mostly just weaken, enabling what is really going to kill them off to act faster.

    We're in overshoot. As a species we've well and truly exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet. Anyone who knows the first thing about biology understands the consequences of overshoot. Just look at what happens to the individuals in a yeast colony growing in a sugar solution. After a period of exponential growth, limits are reached, those limits being availability of food (sugar) and the passing of the threshold where their waste products become toxic (alcohol).

    There is only one way such a predicament ends in all (I mean ALL) species that encounter it.

    We're headed for what's known as a dieoff. And when that happens to other species a minimum of 90% of the individuals of that species die.

    It isn't avoidable. Hasn't been since the 60s or so and even then I don't see how people in this rapacious culture could have been persuaded to just stop breeding and trashing the Earth's carrying capacity. It's been obvious to me since the day I saw it that it was being addressed to the survivors of such an event. They're likely only to be able to get what it means after experiencing such an event.

    People locked into the current programs will be unlikely to survive the end of the supermarkets. How many urban dwellers know how to recognise edible plants for example (some will).

    That's one of the things that irritates me about the love n lighters, they assume they're above natural law, they're in for a profound shock.

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    So book burning’s and war’s threw out the ages had little to do with population control, but more to do with refining and replacing older programming, with new languages for the program to function as a controlling virus feeding on itself.
    Hence holistic doc, food, supplements, thinking, living, outside the programs, (norm) is illegal. And Wako Texas had to die, as they were living and showing too many other bordering community’s just how well living off the grid could work.
    Its one thing to bring it up in conversation or a forum such as this. But put into practice. They do and have and continue to burn people at the stake trying to just live natural in a holistic way, mind, body, soul, and practice gets there attention. And deletion.
    Is there any way of uncovering the ancient living language, reprint it, study and learn to live in this awareness? As it sounds like it would have to be an underground endeavor, as in the open would be met with instant removal.

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    For me personally Miss Eagle I would say this NOW of this particular life is the time for making that hurdle of more de-programming than programming and as you have wrote " I don't have to believe everything I think". Nice insight as always .

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    We're in overshoot. As a species we've well and truly exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet. Anyone who knows the first thing about biology understands the consequences of overshoot. Just look at what happens to the individuals in a yeast colony growing in a sugar solution. After a period of exponential growth, limits are reached, those limits being availability of food (sugar) and the passing of the threshold where their waste products become toxic (alcohol).

    There is only one way such a predicament ends in all (I mean ALL) species that encounter it.

    We're headed for what's known as a dieoff. And when that happens to other species a minimum of 90% of the individuals of that species die.

    It isn't avoidable.
    I have been following the discussions here and elsewhere that address a conditioned "mind", meaning that our thoughts are not our thoughts. They are given to us and the acceptance then leads to our behavior. There is an old expression that thoughts lead to beliefs that leads to behavior that leads to what one experiences. This idea that there are "too many of us" is such a conditioned thaought that I question strongly.

    The problem in my "Opinion" (and I know...everyone has one) is that people are not really behaving as humans. Humans at one time were nomadic and followed the seasons and did not accumulate a bunch of stuff. Then something "happened" that has been called "trauma" and humans experienced an infestation of "catastrophobia" marked by extreme terror. This might have happened more than once. The resilt of the deep trauma is willingness to trade liberty and sovereignity for security. The trauma is the hook that catches the fish. Those who are not afraid are not going to trade humanity for protection. Those who are most afraid do the most damage as they scrabble and fight for the "right" to survive.

    But this right to survive is one of the conditioned thoughts. The "right to survive" is a counterpoint to "no right to survive". Have we not often heard how we are scum, we people of the earth. Such bad bad people who only by the grace of "someone" may eek out an existence.
    It has been observed that the people with the most "children" are the ones at most risk to lose their offspring through disease and disasters (often as a direct consequence of being corralled in one area)

    However, it isn't TRUE. the numbers that matter are the people who know that the right is to "THRIVE" and the path is not greater and greater organization into technological toxic dumpsites of rash but larger and larger understanding of how Life operates. I say the earth can support way way more humans who spread out, who don't build, who cooperate with the earth and who leave only footprints as they wander.

    The reason I am jumping in here is that I want to question how we "know" there are too many humans?
    Obviously there have been many major episodes of civilization that perished. How do we know "how many" people lived on earth at any other time?
    How do we "know" that it is "too many" now?
    What we do know is the way we clump together in mass is the problem.
    We huddle together for security and the we see what is noted as destructive elements. I don't have to name them... you can name them as we have all got a list.
    In America and elsewhere, there is tremendous land just sitting with people massed together in clumps. Something called Agenda 21 is "out there" as a plan to further consolidate all the people into denser clumps.

    There are other technologies that we already know about such as permaculture using principles like composting and mulching that will literally change the landscape of a desert. There is the idea of planting a food forest to be harvested a generation later.

    I say everything about humans is precious, even our s--t that is so wasted. There is knowledge already in our hands that instead of flushing waste, feed it to our friends the trees. The preciousness of humans is what is been deconditioned when only the behavior of a majorly traumatized mind is considered. Esoterically, Some say we are meant to be transducers of energy and also have a function of consciousness' intention for itself to blossom.

    However, if I as a person believe in my worthlessness then I will treat everything as I see myself. I do feel passionate about this basic lie that people believe and then in agreement lose one's humanity. Delight

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    We're in overshoot. As a species we've well and truly exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet. Anyone who knows the first thing about biology understands the consequences of overshoot. Just look at what happens to the individuals in a yeast colony growing in a sugar solution. After a period of exponential growth, limits are reached, those limits being availability of food (sugar) and the passing of the threshold where their waste products become toxic (alcohol).

    There is only one way such a predicament ends in all (I mean ALL) species that encounter it.

    We're headed for what's known as a dieoff. And when that happens to other species a minimum of 90% of the individuals of that species die.

    It isn't avoidable.
    I have been following the discussions here and elsewhere that address a conditioned "mind", meaning that our thoughts are not our thoughts. They are given to us and the acceptance then leads to our behavior. There is an old expression that thoughts lead to beliefs that leads to behavior that leads to what one experiences. This idea that there are "too many of us" is such a conditioned thaought that I question strongly.

    The problem in my "Opinion" (and I know...everyone has one) is that people are not really behaving as humans. Humans at one time were nomadic and followed the seasons and did not accumulate a bunch of stuff. Then something "happened" that has been called "trauma" and humans experienced an infestation of "catastrophobia" marked by extreme terror. This might have happened more than once. The resilt of the deep trauma is willingness to trade liberty and sovereignity for security. The trauma is the hook that catches the fish. Those who are not afraid are not going to trade humanity for protection. Those who are most afraid do the most damage as they scrabble and fight for the "right" to survive.

    But this right to survive is one of the conditioned thoughts. The "right to survive" is a counterpoint to "no right to survive". Have we not often heard how we are scum, we people of the earth. Such bad bad people who only by the grace of "someone" may eek out an existence.
    It has been observed that the people with the most "children" are the ones at most risk to lose their offspring through disease and disasters (often as a direct consequence of being corralled in one area)

    However, it isn't TRUE. the numbers that matter are the people who know that the right is to "THRIVE" and the path is not greater and greater organization into technological toxic dumpsites of rash but larger and larger understanding of how Life operates. I say the earth can support way way more humans who spread out, who don't build, who cooperate with the earth and who leave only footprints as they wander.

    The reason I am jumping in here is that I want to question how we "know" there are too many humans?
    Obviously there have been many major episodes of civilization that perished. How do we know "how many" people lived on earth at any other time?
    How do we "know" that it is "too many" now?
    What we do know is the way we clump together in mass is the problem.
    We huddle together for security and the we see what is noted as destructive elements. I don't have to name them... you can name them as we have all got a list.
    In America and elsewhere, there is tremendous land just sitting with people massed together in clumps. Something called Agenda 21 is "out there" as a plan to further consolidate all the people into denser clumps.

    There are other technologies that we already know about such as permaculture using principles like composting and mulching that will literally change the landscape of a desert. There is the idea of planting a food forest to be harvested a generation later.

    I say everything about humans is precious, even our s--t that is so wasted. There is knowledge already in our hands that instead of flushing waste, feed it to our friends the trees. The preciousness of humans is what is been deconditioned when only the behavior of a majorly traumatized mind is considered. Esoterically, Some say we are meant to be transducers of energy and also have a function of consciousness' intention for itself to blossom.

    However, if I as a person believe in my worthlessness then I will treat everything as I see myself. I do feel passionate about this basic lie that people believe and then in agreement lose one's humanity. Delight

    Maybe I should clarify that and say too many living as we are. But the fact of the matter is that the only place that has properly backed permaculture
    is Cuba and the current systems are collapsing now. It takes at least 10 years to get a permaculture system going, at least 5 years for basic self sufficiency. I know, I've built both. And you need all the tools and plants and seeds and animals and fish and birds and most importantly land, with associated woodland where it gets cold so you don't freeze. Do you think we can make 7 billion people self sufficient with no land, no resources and no time? I don't. Nobody even wants it. They all think science or the aliens will let them carry on consuming.

    What's theoretically possible is quite different to what is possible. I don't see it.

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    I introduce in this video how social conditioning affects the population to experiments conducted at University levels, before leading into the moods of many people prior to, during and after the holiday season (using the Christmas season as example).

    Exposing social conditioning is not theorizing what it is or if it is at all - it is. As well, the facts of social conditioning are not an opinion or belief. Furthermore, those who attempt to expose social conditioning are only dangerous to the system that controls - which is controlled by a "few people", who are controlled by some of "those others".

    Setting aside what this holiday season is based on, I discuss why some people may feel loneliness, depression and such "negative emotions". For whatever reason, something within these people is not conforming to the social norm, which is social conditioning.

    This form of self-governance is found within all parts of everyday living in this civilization. For those who step outside of the social conditioning box, because they want to or even those who simply find themselves there, face a variety of challenges.

    Those who are willingly not a part of the social conditioning imposed deal with the ridicule of others. While those who are not a part of social conditioning, unwilling, deal with "mental health" issues imposed.

    The very social conditioning that affects the moods of people during this holiday season, also controls those who have experiences, which conventional logic cannot explain - such as those who have firsthand knowledge of UFOs and their occupants.

    Social conditioning is a tool, used by the few to control civilization, to make things the way they want for their benefit; ultimately for the benefit of some of "those others". Those who are not a part of the "status quo" are deemed crazy by the very ones who are not of sound mind.

    Why is it more acceptable [asking rhetorically] that such people from holy books (pick one) who have firsthand knowledge of "those others" are elevated to something more; while those who have the same type of experiences "today" are de-elevated to something less!?

    Social conditioning is imposed by some of "those others", using "the few" as their tool. It is not "the few" who select what population is desired, it is some of "those others" and this is found in historical records and religions of today.

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    Quote Posted by joedjemal (here)
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    Quote Posted by joedjemal (here)

    We're in overshoot. As a species we've well and truly exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet. Anyone who knows the first thing about biology understands the consequences of overshoot. Just look at what happens to the individuals in a yeast colony growing in a sugar solution. After a period of exponential growth, limits are reached, those limits being availability of food (sugar) and the passing of the threshold where their waste products become toxic (alcohol).

    There is only one way such a predicament ends in all (I mean ALL) species that encounter it.

    We're headed for what's known as a dieoff. And when that happens to other species a minimum of 90% of the individuals of that species die.

    It isn't avoidable.
    I have been following the discussions here and elsewhere that address a conditioned "mind", meaning that our thoughts are not our thoughts. They are given to us and the acceptance then leads to our behavior. There is an old expression that thoughts lead to beliefs that leads to behavior that leads to what one experiences. This idea that there are "too many of us" is such a conditioned thaought that I question strongly.

    The problem in my "Opinion" (and I know...everyone has one) is that people are not really behaving as humans. Humans at one time were nomadic and followed the seasons and did not accumulate a bunch of stuff. Then something "happened" that has been called "trauma" and humans experienced an infestation of "catastrophobia" marked by extreme terror. This might have happened more than once. The resilt of the deep trauma is willingness to trade liberty and sovereignity for security. The trauma is the hook that catches the fish. Those who are not afraid are not going to trade humanity for protection. Those who are most afraid do the most damage as they scrabble and fight for the "right" to survive.

    But this right to survive is one of the conditioned thoughts. The "right to survive" is a counterpoint to "no right to survive". Have we not often heard how we are scum, we people of the earth. Such bad bad people who only by the grace of "someone" may eek out an existence.
    It has been observed that the people with the most "children" are the ones at most risk to lose their offspring through disease and disasters (often as a direct consequence of being corralled in one area)

    However, it isn't TRUE. the numbers that matter are the people who know that the right is to "THRIVE" and the path is not greater and greater organization into technological toxic dumpsites of rash but larger and larger understanding of how Life operates. I say the earth can support way way more humans who spread out, who don't build, who cooperate with the earth and who leave only footprints as they wander.

    The reason I am jumping in here is that I want to question how we "know" there are too many humans?
    Obviously there have been many major episodes of civilization that perished. How do we know "how many" people lived on earth at any other time?
    How do we "know" that it is "too many" now?
    What we do know is the way we clump together in mass is the problem.
    We huddle together for security and the we see what is noted as destructive elements. I don't have to name them... you can name them as we have all got a list.
    In America and elsewhere, there is tremendous land just sitting with people massed together in clumps. Something called Agenda 21 is "out there" as a plan to further consolidate all the people into denser clumps.

    There are other technologies that we already know about such as permaculture using principles like composting and mulching that will literally change the landscape of a desert. There is the idea of planting a food forest to be harvested a generation later.

    I say everything about humans is precious, even our s--t that is so wasted. There is knowledge already in our hands that instead of flushing waste, feed it to our friends the trees. The preciousness of humans is what is been deconditioned when only the behavior of a majorly traumatized mind is considered. Esoterically, Some say we are meant to be transducers of energy and also have a function of consciousness' intention for itself to blossom.

    However, if I as a person believe in my worthlessness then I will treat everything as I see myself. I do feel passionate about this basic lie that people believe and then in agreement lose one's humanity. Delight

    Maybe I should clarify that and say too many living as we are. But the fact of the matter is that the only place that has properly backed permaculture
    is Cuba and the current systems are collapsing now. It takes at least 10 years to get a permaculture system going, at least 5 years for basic self sufficiency. I know, I've built both. And you need all the tools and plants and seeds and animals and fish and birds and most importantly land, with associated woodland where it gets cold so you don't freeze. Do you think we can make 7 billion people self sufficient with no land, no resources and no time? I don't. Nobody even wants it. They all think science or the aliens will let them carry on consuming.

    What's theoretically possible is quite different to what is possible. I don't see it.
    The fact tat you "don't see it" is to my way of thinking the very basic poison that has infected many. I know that I am going to go out on a limb here and I am not criticizing the person (you).

    Any one of us who has the capacity for contemplation and the resources to deconstruct the basic problem has a responsibility to look at real power. Manifestation begins from the mind. In many ways it is solidified by words. It has been my direct experience that our words create reality. When we speak of accepting defeat from what we already see, we ignore the very basics of human co-creation. Creation comes first from our own minds then is experienced. In that way also, we have been used and abused.

    These are very tricky times we live in. I am not a love and lighter. I am a love and shadow dancer. I recognize that the shadow that has not been processed in my own being is going to slap me in the face. So, I am personally willing to acknowledge that my "lack" is a product of my acceptance of "lack". Over a hundred years ago, people began writing about the way that we create by the way we feel about what thoughts we encounter. It is a form of technology that some ascribe to magic. But it is a basic human function. We are the one's who keep "reality" going by where we focus attention.

    In my personal experience, it didn't take years to manifest a garden once I knew it was possible. It took me years to stop jousting with mirrors, trying to change the outside first. It took years for me to know it was possible to change my face and see a different expression in the mirror. I know now that anything I am able to choose is possible. This is real technology and if it called magic, that does not change oits functioning . In these extreme tricky time, the magicians will thrive.

    I am writing a spell that people will awaken in mass to the precious power of our very real human magic when we speak to what we choose to see.
    No offense ever meant. Delight

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    We're in overshoot. As a species we've well and truly exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet. Anyone who knows the first thing about biology understands the consequences of overshoot. Just look at what happens to the individuals in a yeast colony growing in a sugar solution. After a period of exponential growth, limits are reached, those limits being availability of food (sugar) and the passing of the threshold where their waste products become toxic (alcohol).

    There is only one way such a predicament ends in all (I mean ALL) species that encounter it.

    We're headed for what's known as a dieoff. And when that happens to other species a minimum of 90% of the individuals of that species die.

    It isn't avoidable.
    I have been following the discussions here and elsewhere that address a conditioned "mind", meaning that our thoughts are not our thoughts. They are given to us and the acceptance then leads to our behavior. There is an old expression that thoughts lead to beliefs that leads to behavior that leads to what one experiences. This idea that there are "too many of us" is such a conditioned thaought that I question strongly.

    The problem in my "Opinion" (and I know...everyone has one) is that people are not really behaving as humans. Humans at one time were nomadic and followed the seasons and did not accumulate a bunch of stuff. Then something "happened" that has been called "trauma" and humans experienced an infestation of "catastrophobia" marked by extreme terror. This might have happened more than once. The resilt of the deep trauma is willingness to trade liberty and sovereignity for security. The trauma is the hook that catches the fish. Those who are not afraid are not going to trade humanity for protection. Those who are most afraid do the most damage as they scrabble and fight for the "right" to survive.

    But this right to survive is one of the conditioned thoughts. The "right to survive" is a counterpoint to "no right to survive". Have we not often heard how we are scum, we people of the earth. Such bad bad people who only by the grace of "someone" may eek out an existence.
    It has been observed that the people with the most "children" are the ones at most risk to lose their offspring through disease and disasters (often as a direct consequence of being corralled in one area)

    However, it isn't TRUE. the numbers that matter are the people who know that the right is to "THRIVE" and the path is not greater and greater organization into technological toxic dumpsites of rash but larger and larger understanding of how Life operates. I say the earth can support way way more humans who spread out, who don't build, who cooperate with the earth and who leave only footprints as they wander.

    The reason I am jumping in here is that I want to question how we "know" there are too many humans?
    Obviously there have been many major episodes of civilization that perished. How do we know "how many" people lived on earth at any other time?
    How do we "know" that it is "too many" now?
    What we do know is the way we clump together in mass is the problem.
    We huddle together for security and the we see what is noted as destructive elements. I don't have to name them... you can name them as we have all got a list.
    In America and elsewhere, there is tremendous land just sitting with people massed together in clumps. Something called Agenda 21 is "out there" as a plan to further consolidate all the people into denser clumps.

    There are other technologies that we already know about such as permaculture using principles like composting and mulching that will literally change the landscape of a desert. There is the idea of planting a food forest to be harvested a generation later.

    I say everything about humans is precious, even our s--t that is so wasted. There is knowledge already in our hands that instead of flushing waste, feed it to our friends the trees. The preciousness of humans is what is been deconditioned when only the behavior of a majorly traumatized mind is considered. Esoterically, Some say we are meant to be transducers of energy and also have a function of consciousness' intention for itself to blossom.

    However, if I as a person believe in my worthlessness then I will treat everything as I see myself. I do feel passionate about this basic lie that people believe and then in agreement lose one's humanity. Delight

    Maybe I should clarify that and say too many living as we are. But the fact of the matter is that the only place that has properly backed permaculture
    is Cuba and the current systems are collapsing now. It takes at least 10 years to get a permaculture system going, at least 5 years for basic self sufficiency. I know, I've built both. And you need all the tools and plants and seeds and animals and fish and birds and most importantly land, with associated woodland where it gets cold so you don't freeze. Do you think we can make 7 billion people self sufficient with no land, no resources and no time? I don't. Nobody even wants it. They all think science or the aliens will let them carry on consuming.

    What's theoretically possible is quite different to what is possible. I don't see it.
    The fact tat you "don't see it" is to my way of thinking the very basic poison that has infected many. I know that I am going to go out on a limb here and I am not criticizing the person (you).

    Any one of us who has the capacity for contemplation and the resources to deconstruct the basic problem has a responsibility to look at real power. Manifestation begins from the mind. In many ways it is solidified by words. It has been my direct experience that our words create reality. When we speak of accepting defeat from what we already see, we ignore the very basics of human co-creation. Creation comes first from our own minds then is experienced. In that way also, we have been used and abused.

    These are very tricky times we live in. I am not a love and lighter. I am a love and shadow dancer. I recognize that the shadow that has not been processed in my own being is going to slap me in the face. So, I am personally willing to acknowledge that my "lack" is a product of my acceptance of "lack". Over a hundred years ago, people began writing about the way that we create by the way we feel about what thoughts we encounter. It is a form of technology that some ascribe to magic. But it is a basic human function. We are the one's who keep "reality" going by where we focus attention.

    In my personal experience, it didn't take years to manifest a garden once I knew it was possible. It took me years to stop jousting with mirrors, trying to change the outside first. It took years for me to know it was possible to change my face and see a different expression in the mirror. I know now that anything I am able to choose is possible. This is real technology and if it called magic, that does not change oits functioning . In these extreme tricky time, the magicians will thrive.

    I am writing a spell that people will awaken in mass to the precious power of our very real human magic when we speak to what we choose to see.
    No offense ever meant. Delight

    I dunno about that Delight, I DO see it where I live because my friends and I built it so for the 23 acres we live on we HAVE manifested it. We don't get much help from outside and at the moment everybody here is too busy trying to survive in the existing system to help me in the garden so there's me 50 with a whole range of health problems, on my own trying to prepare to feed a community of people who are all in denial and can't see what's coming.

    There's another thread out there about "the secret" that's about manifestation. It speaks to my attitude to this positive thinking business. There's far too much blooming denial going on and the fact that people are "manifesting" a permaculture world in their heads and not getting off their backsides to build it is NOT the fault of me not seeing them do it.
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    The Georgia Guidestones are classic spell crafting if you understand the law of creation magick. A monument solidifies as above so below. They invoked it, and then they planted the work. I would wager there is / are some very interesting items in the vault below the guidestones which have to do with the program/spell that was cast and SET IN STONE.

    Each time someone reads the Guidestones and is not awake, they further empower the spell. There is a way to destroy the spell, but it takes effort, and that is what posts such as this do. Well done 9Eagle9.

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    Social conditioning--the power to see or perceive--flitering the flow of what is considered "right" thinking.

    How this works:

    I was in college when DNA knowledge was first hitting the textbooks. It was very profound--its effect. That was the beginning of we really need to censor these textbooks in Texas which then filters the rest of the country. For only a few of us was DNA studies filled with infinite possiblities. For the many, it was tampering with god's plan and trying to become god. The old it is okay to be naked but it is not okay to know you are naked--therefore, you will suffer for knowing.

    It is okay to kick girls out of college for getting pregnant but the guy who got her that way gets to stay and go on with his life. She is the daughter of Eve the evil one who caused man to fall. He is poor the Adam the unkowing dupe.

    In the 60s, we began being hit with many things that were like a thump up the head. And we just move blithely on.

    In the 50's Disney had done many movies about the living planet--the desert, the seas, the forests, etc. I think anyone watching TV was exposed to the concept that the rainforests are the lungs of the earth. Made sense to me and I think it is considered a scientific fact. So we have allowed the lungs of the earth to be burned---for what---- more cattle, more furniture, to make sure there is not more medical discoveries? Most of this has been pushed by the IMF and the world bank. Why? It did not make sense to let the lungs breathe for us and pay these countries to leave the rainforests alone. It is a terrible thing to let the natives there live the way they have for thousands of years and let them accept or reject civilization as they saw fit.

    Dances With Wolves shows us the resulting feelings towards people who were allowed to "go native." Yet, that term had been about for hundreds of years. Going native is heresy. Being native was heresy. Total justification for slavery, conquering, and colonies under total repression where the natives become terrorists.

    Two things that I found most profound of the 60s and think about daily ever since: plants can feel and plants can think. Those experiements have been made and elaborated on over the years--the results remain the same only more so with more sophisticated instruments.

    Next: that thermography proves that we have an aura--all people can see it when enabled with night vision glasses. What we know about this scientifically has been totally repressed. How do I know that? I was one of the ones used in the experiments by the Stanford Research Institute funded by the Rand Corporation.

    The implications of those two things should be mind blowing but we just casually dismiss them as being facts of trivia. That is social conditioning to the nines.

    What I also learned is that if you know and you want to live with your brain intact you learn to be quiet and go within and think about this problem for decades. I am also that person.
    Beware the axis of sanctimony.

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I am writing a spell that people will awaken in mass to the precious power of our very real human magic when we speak to what we choose to see.
    No offense ever meant. Delight

    I dunno about that Delight, I DO see it where I live because my friends and I built it so for the 23 acres we live on we HAVE manifested it. We don't get much help from outside and at the moment everybody here is too busy trying to survive in the existing system to help me in the garden so there's me 50 with a whole range of health problems, on my own trying to prepare to feed a community of people who are all in denial and can't see what's coming.

    There's another thread out there about "the secret" that's about manifestation. It speaks to my attitude to this positive thinking business. There's far too much blooming denial going on and the fact that people are "manifesting" a permaculture world in their heads and not getting off their backsides to build it is NOT the fault of me not seeing them do it.
    It isn't just about "positive thinking". It is about refusing to believe that the circumstances are what ultimately matter. Yes, it is not the traditional way. But then permaculture isn't traditional and yet it is sooo much easier. I can't help but see life in terms of gardening anymore. We have been ground down by the system to believe we are machines that malfunctioned. In a garden, every year is different and it all ends of being a dance.

    I live in the country in an area that is traditionally hardscrabble Appalachia. There is a feeling of poverty in the midst of the most incredible beauty and abundance. People are not feeling human. Yes, people have given up their sovereignty (and sovereignty does not mean no physical effort). I am not afraid to speak to the issues that must be overcome as we face the evidence of mind control. I recognize the seeming jaws that have clutched our throats.

    As a farmer you already know that you have times of intense effort and times when you could lie down at the creek and meditate. A farm benefits from workers sharing the effort. A farm enables a person to have a close rapport to nature. You know it is a great life and worthy of encouragement. The sense of wanting to share this is seeming to be "thwarted"

    You learn new things like how bacteria and fungus work in the soil and the help that companion planting, permaculture, all the cyclical relationships exist in harmony. You are greatly enriched all the time. You may wonder why anyone would not enjoy this life?

    Well we can all devolve into the loathing at what seems to be hugely WRONG about everything.

    So, at 50, you possibly wonder "how will I be able to keep this up? How will I be able to encourage others to enjoy this?" I am not saying that we can't look these issues squarely in the eye. But the way we look at it is coming from valuable and less valuable perspectives.

    What I am addressing is a leap into a new relationship with the "problems". I do not accept that there are too many people in the world. Specifically as an example, I could see an outcome of change of mind and heart. I will invision the waking up of the ones who never saw a tomato vine to the confidence that all the "givens " of being in the system are lacking what they might really like. I will not say that because I have no strong community yet, this means there is not one. I will suggest that I see the end of what I desire...(not invision dieoffs and doom but more humans)

    We know alot about problems. The best use of a problem is to use that contrast to define what is appreciated and learn that as we tune our minds to possibility versus problems, magic will occur.

    The secret was a very good movie because it got people thinking that maybe there is a different way to do things.

    I insist in my own mind the WAY will be opened up now that we hit a wall. There is a way that everyone will remember (because it is time to recall what was meant before we were so hurt) what all this was for in the first place: this world we love.

    I just do know that nature never made junk. We are not the pinnacle of creation and YES we have our role...7 billion have a role. So the reason I started writing is to counter the belief that I may still hold we are too many, too wrong and too late. Delight

    No, the time is ripe for fruits that have looked very small and green but are are sweetening right now. Delight
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    [QUOTE=Unified Serenity;436035]The Georgia Guidestones are classic spell crafting if you understand the law of creation magick. A monument solidifies as above so below. They invoked it, and then they planted the work. I would wager there is / are some very interesting items in the vault below the guidestones which have to do with the program/spell that was cast and SET IN STONE.
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    A good rule of thumb is to stress commone sense. If we have a population that is so overextended that it cannot thrive we should take our self responsiblity and limit our own reproduction. If large groups of the population are starving, without adequate shelter, without a means of securing accomplishments and worknig their fruits of their own labor I would have to say that is compasionalte meter for over production. Living rather than just existing. Their environments are unable to support them. I'd say that is a good meter for deciding how much is too much.

    Pherpas we could have been more responsible with over crowding without the following conditions.

    "A woman is incomplete without a child.'

    Woman are very yemotionally identified with mother hoood and being a mother. At one time it was the only thing they could call their own with the partiachal authority stripping them of all else.

    Conditions of ownership _-i must have my own child born my from own plumbing to have the full experience of motherhood.

    I don't a want a child , I'm not sure I can cope with the responsiblity but I'm essentially being guilt tripped into having one.

    Religion --goes without saying. Be fruitful and multiply and the only one should have sex is to pro-create.

    Modern welfare programs do not assist women with their domestic situations but overwhelm them entirely. You don't ask for assistance they want you completely in the system. With this alleged stop gap measure in place it has forced woman to use reproduction as a means of income, and the ability to provide for their pre existing children.

    Tons, volumes of scripting and conditioning concerning being a parent.

    We do see right from the start that children have not much in the way of intrisic self worth but as some sort of attachments resulting from the parent's belief system or environment.

    Good post.

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    We're in overshoot. As a species we've well and truly exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet. Anyone who knows the first thing about biology understands the consequences of overshoot. Just look at what happens to the individuals in a yeast colony growing in a sugar solution. After a period of exponential growth, limits are reached, those limits being availability of food (sugar) and the passing of the threshold where their waste products become toxic (alcohol).

    There is only one way such a predicament ends in all (I mean ALL) species that encounter it.

    We're headed for what's known as a dieoff. And when that happens to other species a minimum of 90% of the individuals of that species die.

    It isn't avoidable.
    I have been following the discussions here and elsewhere that address a conditioned "mind", meaning that our thoughts are not our thoughts. They are given to us and the acceptance then leads to our behavior. There is an old expression that thoughts lead to beliefs that leads to behavior that leads to what one experiences. This idea that there are "too many of us" is such a conditioned thaought that I question strongly.

    The problem in my "Opinion" (and I know...everyone has one) is that people are not really behaving as humans. Humans at one time were nomadic and followed the seasons and did not accumulate a bunch of stuff. Then something "happened" that has been called "trauma" and humans experienced an infestation of "catastrophobia" marked by extreme terror. This might have happened more than once. The resilt of the deep trauma is willingness to trade liberty and sovereignity for security. The trauma is the hook that catches the fish. Those who are not afraid are not going to trade humanity for protection. Those who are most afraid do the most damage as they scrabble and fight for the "right" to survive.

    But this right to survive is one of the conditioned thoughts. The "right to survive" is a counterpoint to "no right to survive". Have we not often heard how we are scum, we people of the earth. Such bad bad people who only by the grace of "someone" may eek out an existence.
    It has been observed that the people with the most "children" are the ones at most risk to lose their offspring through disease and disasters (often as a direct consequence of being corralled in one area)

    However, it isn't TRUE. the numbers that matter are the people who know that the right is to "THRIVE" and the path is not greater and greater organization into technological toxic dumpsites of rash but larger and larger understanding of how Life operates. I say the earth can support way way more humans who spread out, who don't build, who cooperate with the earth and who leave only footprints as they wander.

    The reason I am jumping in here is that I want to question how we "know" there are too many humans?
    Obviously there have been many major episodes of civilization that perished. How do we know "how many" people lived on earth at any other time?
    How do we "know" that it is "too many" now?
    What we do know is the way we clump together in mass is the problem.
    We huddle together for security and the we see what is noted as destructive elements. I don't have to name them... you can name them as we have all got a list.
    In America and elsewhere, there is tremendous land just sitting with people massed together in clumps. Something called Agenda 21 is "out there" as a plan to further consolidate all the people into denser clumps.

    There are other technologies that we already know about such as permaculture using principles like composting and mulching that will literally change the landscape of a desert. There is the idea of planting a food forest to be harvested a generation later.

    I say everything about humans is precious, even our s--t that is so wasted. There is knowledge already in our hands that instead of flushing waste, feed it to our friends the trees. The preciousness of humans is what is been deconditioned when only the behavior of a majorly traumatized mind is considered. Esoterically, Some say we are meant to be transducers of energy and also have a function of consciousness' intention for itself to blossom.

    However, if I as a person believe in my worthlessness then I will treat everything as I see myself. I do feel passionate about this basic lie that people believe and then in agreement lose one's humanity. Delight

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    On GodLikeProductions was an interview with an elite family insider 2005.

    He declared wot was going on, how and by who. Both the programmers and
    the programmed is inside wot is viewed as the pyramid. The only difference
    between the Ceo of Monsanto and the one who consumes Gene manipulated
    corn is their different roles in the play, ie the programmers are also programmed
    by their own programmings and are of course useless when the goals of the programs
    are fullfilled.
    Humans from some bloodlines and those other humans who has broken their
    programmings are outside the play doing something different in life than
    wasting it on stupidities.

    Links to video and a written version below.


    http://www.archive.org/details/Revel...nsiderVideoAvi

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The...y-Insider-2005
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    It isn't just about "positive thinking". It is about refusing to believe that the circumstances are what ultimately matter. Yes, it is not the traditional way. But then permaculture isn't traditional and yet it is sooo much easier. I can't help but see life in terms of gardening anymore. We have been ground down by the system to believe we are machines that malfunctioned. In a garden, every year is different and it all ends of being a dance.

    I live in the country in an area that is traditionally hardscrabble Appalachia. There is a feeling of poverty in the midst of the most incredible beauty and abundance. People are not feeling human. Yes, people have given up their sovereignty (and sovereignty does not mean no physical effort). I am not afraid to speak to the issues that must be overcome as we face the evidence of mind control. I recognize the seeming jaws that have clutched our throats.

    As a farmer you already know that you have times of intense effort and times when you could lie down at the creek and meditate. A farm benefits from workers sharing the effort. A farm enables a person to have a close rapport to nature. You know it is a great life and worthy of encouragement. The sense of wanting to share this is seeming to be "thwarted"

    You learn new things like how bacteria and fungus work in the soil and the help that companion planting, permaculture, all the cyclical relationships exist in harmony. You are greatly enriched all the time. You may wonder why anyone would not enjoy this life?

    Well we can all devolve into the loathing at what seems to be hugely WRONG about everything.

    So, at 50, you possibly wonder "how will I be able to keep this up? How will I be able to encourage others to enjoy this?" I am not saying that we can't look these issues squarely in the eye. But the way we look at it is coming from valuable and less valuable perspectives.

    What I am addressing is a leap into a new relationship with the "problems". I do not accept that there are too many people in the world. Specifically as an example, I could see an outcome of change of mind and heart. I will invision the waking up of the ones who never saw a tomato vine to the confidence that all the "givens " of being in the system are lacking what they might really like. I will not say that because I have no strong community yet, this means there is not one. I will suggest that I see the end of what I desire...(not invision dieoffs and doom but more humans)

    We know alot about problems. The best use of a problem is to use that contrast to define what is appreciated and learn that as we tune our minds to possibility versus problems, magic will occur.

    The secret was a very good movie because it got people thinking that maybe there is a different way to do things.

    I insist in my own mind the WAY will be opened up now that we hit a wall. There is a way that everyone will remember (because it is time to recall what was meant before we were so hurt) what all this was for in the first place: this world we love.

    I just do know that nature never made junk. We are not the pinnacle of creation and YES we have our role...7 billion have a role. So the reason I started writing is to counter the belief that I may still hold we are too many, too wrong and too late. Delight

    No, the time is ripe for fruits that have looked very small and green but are are sweetening right now. Delight
    All right, tell me how you see us getting from here to there without major loss of life. Several years ago I could see a way so I set about trying to achieve it. I approached people, tried to get some backing, talked to politicians, went to meetings, tried to get people involved and everywhere I went I met the same brick wall. The politicians couldn't possibly discuss it because letting the public know it was happening would cause immediate collapse in any case the party funders couldn't have this sort of thing because it might affect profits. My own family wouldn't believe there was a problem because it wasn't on the telly in any case who wants to live like a dirt grubbing peasant when you can have a car and satelite television.

    Nobody was the least bit interested except for my hippy and protestor mates but even with them it all sounds like a bit too much hard work and they'd rather get stoned, party and live off the rubbish bins of the supermarkets.

    They're not interested. How do you manifest that away?
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