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    Default DIY easy, high dose anti-oxidant therapy

    Ever since the days of Linus Pauling, millions of people have taken vitamin C
    for all manner of health challenges, with good results. Its antioxidant power
    can help almost all organs of the body, and strengthen collagen and blood
    vessels. To deal with serious diseases like cancer required costly mega-doses of 50 or 100 grams per day, administered by IV. But intravenous vitamin C was beyond the means of most sick
    people, and impractical for preventative use.

    There is a wonderful story of a farmer in New Zealand who was dying
    of swine flu (and also, leukemia). His family insisted on vitamin C infusions
    by IV, but the hospital only did a few, then refused to continue despite evident
    improvement. His family refused to give up, and their persistence saved his
    life. See the video here:

    ... Living Proof: Vitamin C - Miracle Cure? - Video -

    ... The amazing story of a King Country dairy farmer who caught swine flu and very nearly died.

    To find out more about the miracle cure they found, a form of vitamin C called Lypo-Spheric C. You can see it here: - http://www.livonlabs.com/

    But wait -- there’s more...

    The Good News!

    There is now a simple way for you to make a similar form of vitamin C at home. Its full name is Liposomal Encapsulated Vitamin C. Like Lypo-Spheric C, Liposomal Encapsulated Vitamin C
    taken orally is reported to be 6 to 8 times stronger, gram for gram, than vitamin C by intravenous drip .

    Think of it: one gram of ascorbic acid encapsulated as Liposomal C does the work
    of 6 to 8 grams given by IV. Not only that, it takes less than 10 minutes to make, and the cost is very low.

    Take a look at this new video describing exactly how to make Liposomal
    Encapsulated Vitamin C right in your kitchen:



    You can liposomally encapsulate other anti-oxidants as well. I am experimenting with Glutathione (the master anti-oxidant).

    There is a forum at Yahoo where some DIY's are experimenting and helping each other out.

    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DIY-LET/

    And this Dr has the best YT videos explaining how this works so well int he body:





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    You can boost the effects of lipsomal vitamin c by adding glutathione. Lipsomal glutatione is the only oral application of glutathione that works. No longer do you need to go to the Naturopath for IVs

    get it at www.beyondacentury.com

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    You can boost the effects of lipsomal vitamin c by adding glutathione. Lipsomal glutatione is the only oral application of glutathione that works. No longer do you need to go to the Naturopath for IVs

    get it at www.beyondacentury.com
    Haha! We think alike! I am adding it to my mixture.
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    Haha! We think alike! I am adding it to my mixture.
    I just finished watching the video and I was taken by his statement that it needs to be refrigerated. I have a friend who purchased Dr Donsbachs product and he liked it very much for his ailing 92 year old mother. He purchased another he was so impressed at how well it worked for her chronic bronchitits that had her in the hospital. You can look at this product at www.letstalkhealth.com

    There are no instructions on Donsbachs to refrigerate. This is a new insight and I wonder if it is right. Do you know anything about this?
    Donsbach also puts in curcumin

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    What I understand is that it keeps (meaning stays encapsulated and doesnt seperate) unrefrigerated for 4-5 days but weeks in frig. I have been pouring mine into dark green glass bottles (old wine bottles) and corking and in frig.

    I have ordered curcumin, resveratrol, and milk thistle to add.
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    What I understand is that it keeps (meaning stays encapsulated and doesnt seperate) unrefrigerated for 4-5 days but weeks in frig. I have been pouring mine into dark green glass bottles (old wine bottles) and corking and in frig.

    I have ordered curcumin, resveratrol, and milk thistle to add.
    Donsbachs site says that they have improved the grade of their vitamin c for a better product. How to you find a better grade. I thought ascorbic acid was ascorbic acid. How to know?


    So Ive been thinking of making my protamdim formula in lipsomal form. its got curcumin. bacopa, ashwanganda, milk thistle and resversatrol. You can find the forumula at www.healthsalon.org search protandim. Its amazing stuff. but I wonder about how the other herbs will do with it. this forumula has a powerful synergetic effect




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    My understanding is that AA is AA. Not sure how it could be 'upgraded'. I am playing with using baking soda to neutralize it supposedly for better encapsulation. Maybe that's what he means. That would be turning into Sodium Ascorbate.

    Hmm, you have piqued my curiosity. I will check that out. I love the idea of a synergistic mixture too.
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    One can make gallons of fresh liposomal Vitamin C (or of liposomal glutathione) for the price of one bottle of the prepared solution ... and be sure of using fresh lecithin kept refrigerated until use, and refrigerate the resulting solution as soon as made.

    From an earlier post of mine, here are my ingredients and equipment to make my own liposomal Vitamin C:
    Actually, I have a newer ultrasonic cleaner now, having worn out the on/off button on the one above. I like my new one better - more flexible controls - and hopefully longer lasting switches. It is Intertek model "CD-7810A":
    I posted my recipe for making liposomal Vitamin C over a year ago here, at Action Alert - FDA is going after Vitamin C - Post #13

    I have since modified that recipe, to also include mixing in 3/4 teaspoon Bob's Red Mill Baking Soda (bicarbonate of soda)with the (1 Tbsp) Ascorbic Acid and (1/2 cup) water, so as to neutralize the acidity of the ascorbic acid. Alternatively, one could use an ascorbate salt, such as sodium ascorbate, instead of the acid plus baking soda.

    Normally I don't worry too much about the acidity vs alkalinity of the food I eat, figuring that the various acids and biles in my digestive system will deal with it. But since liposomal Vitamin C is absorbed so directly into cells, it recently occurred to me that using a more neutral ascorbate form would be a good idea, especially when taking large quantities.
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    Hmm, you have piqued my curiosity. I will check that out. I love the idea of a synergistic mixture too.
    here, making it easy for you

    http://www.healthsalon.org/504/prota...e-aging-clock/

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    Paul, I missed your thread-sorry.

    Can you tell us what changes in your health you have experienced since starting?

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    Hmm, you have piqued my curiosity. I will check that out. I love the idea of a synergistic mixture too.
    here, making it easy for you

    http://www.healthsalon.org/504/prota...e-aging-clock/
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    Normally I don't worry too much about the acidity vs alkalinity of the food I eat, figuring that the various acids and biles in my digestive system will deal with it. But since liposomal Vitamin C is absorbed so directly into cells, it recently occurred to me that using a more neutral ascorbate form would be a good idea, especially when taking large quantities.
    thanks for your post.

    regarding acidity, personally I feel that acids are better at killing pathogens than alkaline. One of the most powerful antipathogens is IV injections of HCL.
    The body will maintain homeostasis. Alkaline foods provide the nutrients we need. It does not affect the ph of the blood. only the urine and saliva.

    Sometimes it is merely the radical shift of ph that does the killing. as in using sodium bicarb for cancer. But old time docs sometimes used HCL iv for cancer. so go figure.
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    I am playing with using baking soda to neutralize it supposedly for better encapsulation. Maybe that's what he means. That would be turning into Sodium Ascorbate.
    Yup .

    The amounts are needed in these proportions:
    • 3 Tbsp lecithin granules
    • 1 cup water
    • 1 Tbsp Ascorbic Acid powder
    • 1 tsp Baking Soda (Corrected from 3/4 tsp, thanks to replies below)
    • 1/2 cup water
    I mix the first two ingredients and leave in the refrigerator over night, or longer, shaking every now and then, to thoroughly saturate the lecithin in water. I also store the lecithin granules in the refrigerator, as it can go rancid pretty easily.

    Then when ready to make a batch, I mix the last three ingredients, in a larger container, as it bubbles up as the soda reacts with the acid.

    Then I pour both solutions into the ultrasonic cleaner and "vibrate" it for 15 minutes or longer, stirring every so often with a plastic spoon, to pick up anything that might settle on the bottom.

    Then I refrigerate and use a teaspoon at a time (in grapefruit juice that I like) multiple times per day.
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    The body will maintain homeostasis.
    Absolutely, the body maintains homeostasis through the normal digestive system.

    However part of the "trick" of liposomal ingredients is to get ingredients through the digestive system and directly into cells unscathed. Individual cells would not like having a blob of fat containing a little bit of acid sneaking in past the cell wall. Their acid balance is critical to their survival.
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    I imagine I would need BS with Resveratrol as well since its acidic.
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    The body will maintain homeostasis.
    Absolutely, the body maintains homeostasis through the normal digestive system.

    However part of the "trick" of liposomal ingredients is to get ingredients through the digestive system and directly into cells unscathed. Individual cells would not like having a blob of fat containing a little bit of acid sneaking in past the cell wall. Their acid balance is critical to their survival.
    But it hasn't been an issue with IV vitamin c has it? Is that ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbic? or something else? they use up to 100grams per IV!

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    The body will maintain homeostasis.
    Absolutely, the body maintains homeostasis through the normal digestive system.

    However part of the "trick" of liposomal ingredients is to get ingredients through the digestive system and directly into cells unscathed. Individual cells would not like having a blob of fat containing a little bit of acid sneaking in past the cell wall. Their acid balance is critical to their survival.
    But it hasn't been an issue with IV vitamin c has it? Is that ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbic? or something else? they use up to 100grams per IV!
    In my experience IVC is in buffered form.
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    Paul, I missed your thread-sorry.

    Can you tell us what changes in your health you have experienced since starting?
    No problems on missing my thread ... it was long ago .

    I've experienced many health improvements over the last several of years, thanks to a major overhaul of my diet. I have no way to isolate which health changes are due to which diet changes.

    Five years ago I was moderately obese, pre-diabetic, plagued by all sorts of minor ailments from scalp to toes and everywhere in between, no longer able to code (my former job and ongoing hobby) due to brain fog, with a minor history of cancer and on my way to serious cardiovascular disease.

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    In my experience IVC is in buffered form.
    Definitely - throwing off your blood pH too much will kill you.
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    Thanks nearing...... Ive GOT to go to bed now. good night

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    That's terrific, Paul!! Congrats.

    I love hearing stories like yours! Warms my heart.

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    Thanks Nearing for this thread! Thanks also to Arrowind and Paul for their valuable info.

    Sometimes I find myself a bit scared to make home remedies like this when I think of the possibility of bacterial contamination. I know it sounds ridiculous; I think it comes from a lifetime of everything being pasteurised, sanitised,etc.

    I'm still getting the nerve up to make my own colloidal silver....I've had the kit for ages.....silly me!

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