DIY easy, high dose anti-oxidant therapy

[Nathalie]

This is very interesting... But before I go out and but all the material, I'd like to know how long have you all been doing this and what are the noticeable effects?

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Thanks Nearing for this thread! Thanks also to Arrowind and Paul for their valuable info.

Sometimes I find myself a bit scared to make home remedies like this when I think of the possibility of bacterial contamination. I know it sounds ridiculous; I think it comes from a lifetime of everything being pasteurised, sanitised,etc.

I'm still getting the nerve up to make my own colloidal silver....I've had the kit for ages.....silly me!

Wel,l colloidal silver is one thing that you for sure will never get any bacterial growth in ..

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Nathalie (here)
This is very interesting... But before I go out and but all the material, I'd like to know how long have you all been doing this and what are the noticeable effects?

I have yet to make my own. But I have talked with one of the developers of Livonlabs lipsomal vitamin c and they have done the tests on blood levels after use of their lipsomal vitamin c product. He said it would revolutionize alternative health care and I believe him. I am farily knowledgable in the use of oral vitamin c. It has alleviated pretty sever pain for me related to what I think is a pelvic vericose vein... docs have been unable to make any real diagnosis. But if I take 7 grams of oral vitamin c twice a day for 3 days I am pain free for months... and still holding.... vitamin c has a powerful anti-inflammatory action.

Most people dont get results with regular oral C because they don't know how to use it correctly or when it causes the runs they stop and cut themselves off from the cure they seek.

Ive used vitamin c many times to kill a virus dead in its tracks. the science behind lipsomal preparations is well documented so look for it. It has been used for along time as a delivery system in cosmetics to deliver antioxidants to the skin so there has been a ton of research on it. Now they are started to come out with other lipsomal nutritonal supplements due to the the inhanced absorption qualities.

Now the downfall with oral vitamin is that the required dosages to do the real work can be so high that it gives a lot of stomach distress. Lipsomal c eliminates that problem. I had a friend pull his mom from the near death bed with Donsbachs lipsomal c when she was in the hospital. She used two bottles over several weeks and she is fully well now and even better than before getting sick, at age 92.

The thing with vitamin c is all in getting high enough blood levels. This can be done with lipsomal c easily at home. The homemade product is made just the same way as professional manufactures make it in the liquid form. There is absolutely no reason not to think it wont deliver. it is much more convient to give liquid than 10 or 15 or 20 grams in a pill form... and certainly just great for children who dont want pills at all.

visit www.vitamincfoundation.org to learn more about the power and use of vitamin c in all its applications.

You probably wont notice an effect if you are healthy. Its when disease is present that you will see a change. But things go on behind the scenes. Vitamin c is a great healer of the vascular system. Add a little niacin and you have your own vascular roter rooter program for arterial plaque.

[nearing]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Thanks Nearing for this thread! Thanks also to Arrowind and Paul for their valuable info.

Sometimes I find myself a bit scared to make home remedies like this when I think of the possibility of bacterial contamination. I know it sounds ridiculous; I think it comes from a lifetime of everything being pasteurised, sanitised,etc.

I'm still getting the nerve up to make my own colloidal silver....I've had the kit for ages.....silly me!

You're very welcome, Letthere. Hopefully now that you can see that there are many doing this and not only not getting sick from it but getting very healthy form it - you will give it a try!

Good doctors have been using IV Vitamin C therapy for generations and getting nearly miraculous results. This is finally a way we can take charge of our health and get all the Vitamin C (and other nutrients) our bodies need at home and at a fraction of the cost and time.

Let us know if you have any questions.

[nearing]

Posted by Nathalie (here)
This is very interesting... But before I go out and but all the material, I'd like to know how long have you all been doing this and what are the noticeable effects?

Nathalie, Paul has been doing it for a year or so I think he said. You'll need to read his posts on the first page. He has been getting great results.

I have been doing it for only about a week and a half. I can tell you that the first day that I tried it, it was amazing because the night before I had a dinner party and drank too much wine. I was feeling a little hung over the next day. This was the first day I got to try my mixture. I took 2 ounces and within a half an hour I had no hangover and was normal and energized again.

Ever since the first day -I am sleeping well and waking up earlier than usual and refreshed. This in and of itself is enough for me to want to continue. My long term goal with it is to get rid of a chronic rhinitis. I will be slowly upping my dosage as time goes by. I will report back on my results.

But you should study up on the uses of high dose (meaning higher than you can get from regular oral doses i.e.. IV and now, liposomal C). I think you will be amazed at what it can do for you. It can knock out any toxin (heavy metals, radiation, viruses, bacteria, fungus) and it is also the building block for cortisol (which is why I am sleeping better and feeling more energized).

It is a free radical scavenger par excellence.

Did I mention it's inexpensive? If you were to go to a doc for IV C therapy it would cost about $100-150 per session and each session takes about 3-4 hours (IV C is administered very slowly). And they usually want you to come once to 3 times a week depending on if you are maintenance or treatment.

I bought a 5 pound bag of Ascorbic acid for under $50 (I think that's right, I bought other stuff with it and don't remember numbers well, but I know it was relatively cheap even as supplements go) and that will last me years.

[WhiteFeather]

Hey Nearing if this works on hangovers you could perhaps market it. Just a thought. : )

[nearing]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Hey Nearing if this works on hangovers you could perhaps market it. Just a thought. : )

It does, I can testify to that! But it's not something that I created and even if I did, it couldn't be patented, and even if it could, I wouldn't want to make $ on something I know anyone could make in their kitchen.

Given all that: I know there are companies out there selling it for way more than it cost to make it at home.

[brenie]

Hello, thanks for the info: The video on the NZ farmer is amazing, I remember seeing news on this about 2 years ago, passed it onto lots of friends.
Now to see it again fires up need to start passing it around again. Plus the news that we can introduce it, and prepare it easily at home, and without IV this could be great news for a lot of people.
Many thanks for spreading the news.

Regards, Brenie.

[brenie]

Hello again, you may have to be careful what you add to the mix, without a little research, just in-case something might react and break down the 'Encapsulated Vitamin C' ?
Best regards, brenie.

[Arrowwind]

Just thinking nearing.... why do you think you need gluathione at your age?

Be cautious of supplementing things that your own body makes before it is needed.

[Carmen]

Thank you for this very informative thread Nearing! Also to arrowind and Paul for your info. Great practical information here. Thanks again.

[nearing]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Just thinking nearing.... why do you think you need gluathione at your age?

Be cautious of supplementing things that your own body makes before it is needed.

I agree that I should be cautious. They say that we make 10-15% less for every decade after 20 and I am trying to finally beat this incessant perennial rhinitis. I would take it forever, just long enough to see if it works on the rhinitis. And I won't take more than 2 ounces a day.

[Arrowwind]

This page has sodium ascorbate products, same as used for making IV vitamin c preparations.. its buffered
http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=sodium+ascorbate

BTW, if you've never ordered from iherb before enter my $5 off coupon on your first order. Coupon code BAR967
They have about the best prices anywhere and free shipping with a $20 purchase.

[TheSwede]

Hmm, very nice info indeed. I'm gonna get me the stuff for this.

[Alan]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
You can boost the effects of lipsomal vitamin c by adding glutathione. Lipsomal glutatione is the only oral application of glutathione that works. No longer do you need to go to the Naturopath for IVs

get it at www.beyondacentury.com

Wrong URL, this one is correct: http://www.beyondacenturyonline.com

[Alan]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
I am playing with using baking soda to neutralize it supposedly for better encapsulation. Maybe that's what he means. That would be turning into Sodium Ascorbate.

Yup .

The amounts are needed in these proportions:

• 3 Tbsp lecithin granules
• 1 cup water

• 1 Tbsp Ascorbic Acid powder
• 1 tsp Baking Soda (Corrected from 3/4 tsp, thanks to reply below)
• 1/2 cup water

I mix the first two ingredients and leave in the refrigerator over night, or longer, shaking every now and then, to thoroughly saturate the lecithin in water. I also store the lecithin granules in the refrigerator, as it can go rancid pretty easily.

Then when ready to make a batch, I mix the last three ingredients, in a larger container, as it bubbles up as the soda reacts with the acid.

Then I pour both solutions into the ultrasonic cleaner and "vibrate" it for 15 minutes or longer, stirring every so often with a plastic spoon, to pick up anything that might settle on the bottom.

Then I refrigerate and use a teaspoon at a time (in grapefruit juice that I like) multiple times per day.

Paul, I'm curious how you came up with these proportions of Ascorbic Acid to baking soda? You are using a 4:1 ratio of AA:BS, from what I've read, to turn 100% of the AA to SA you need a 2:1 ratio.

[bmdb]

Thank you nearing. I find this very interesting and I will give it a try.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by alamojo (here)
Paul, I'm curious how you came up with these proportions of Ascorbic Acid to baking soda? You are using a 4:1 ratio of AA:BS, from what I've read, to turn 100% of the AA to SA you need a 2:1 ratio.

I probably got them from some random post on the web .

I am not a chemist ... I should have posted that disclaimer with the original recipe ... oops.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
I probably got them from some random post on the web .

I am not a chemist ... I should have posted that disclaimer with the original recipe ... oops.

Ok - time to research this a bit. From http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-l...msg125108.html

Brooks, I'm curious why you recommend a 1:1 ratio of AA:BS for creating the
sodium ascorbate. I did some googling and it seems most people recommend
2:1 for AA:BS.

I found the following in the Vitamin C Foundation forums, which explains the
2:1 ratio:

NaHCO3 + C6H8O6 --> NaC6H7O6 + H2CO3

One mole of sodium bicarbonate is 84 grams, and one mole of ascorbic acid
is 176 grams. So, the correct (stoichiometric) ratio of sodium bicarbonate
to ascorbic acid is 84/176 = 0.477. For example, it would take 477
milligrams of sodium bicarbonate to neutralize 1000 milligrams of ascorbic
acid.

So, by weight, yes, twice as much ascorbic acid (AA) as sodium bicarbonate (Baking Soda, BS) ... slightly more than twice to be precise ... 176 to 84 ... by weight. This provides an equal number of (the heavier) molecules of AA and molecules of BS, and the chemical reaction, above, uses one molecule of each.

But baking soda (BS) is more dense than ascorbic acid (AA) powder. Using my nice kitchen scales, I find that a quarter cup of AA weighs 69 grams, and a quarter cup of BS weighs 93 grams (approximately.)

So if you want 0.477 as much BS by weight, you'd want 0.477 times 69/93 as much by volume ... even less BS, as it is more dense. 0.477 * 69 / 93 ==> 0.354

So, for each Tablespoon of AA, I should have slightly more than one third (0.354) of a Tablespoon of BS. Aha - but there are three teaspoons (tsp) in a tablespoon (Tbsp). So this is easy ... one tsp of BS per one Tbsp of AA. Cool!

I have used my super admin powers to correct my recipe above in my post, and quoted in another post.

P.S. -- I am thinking of trying potassium bicarbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate. I am always looking for ways to increase the potassium in my diet. However food grade potassium carbonate is difficult to find ... and supplements over 99 mg of potassium are not allowed in the US. So I'm probably being a fool to consider this.

[Sidney]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Thanks Nearing for this thread! Thanks also to Arrowind and Paul for their valuable info.

Sometimes I find myself a bit scared to make home remedies like this when I think of the possibility of bacterial contamination. I know it sounds ridiculous; I think it comes from a lifetime of everything being pasteurised, sanitised,etc.

I'm still getting the nerve up to make my own colloidal silver....I've had the kit for ages.....silly me!

OMG Me too. I ve had my silver-lungs generator for a year, and still haven't gotten around to making it. More of a time constraint than anything tho. Shameful-My Bad-


Hey Paul, does it improve ones energy? I have terible chronic fatigue, maybe this would help, and is that cleaner, like a jewelry type ultrasonic cleaner, or is it specially made for food preparation, and where do you purchase something like that? Thank you in advance. Congrats on your successfulo story !!!!!