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    Default Re: Social Conditioning & The Georgia Guidestones & the new Heresy.

    "Conspiracy Untarnished" is a pseudonym of "R C Christian a pseudonyn" sic. Any moron can notice this apparent miss spelling. The guide stones are there to make the investigator think there is a conspiracy when there is not. It's a double bluff or it's a joke......IMHO

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    Quote Posted by joedjemal (here)
    All right, tell me how you see us getting from here to there without major loss of life. Several years ago I could see a way so I set about trying to achieve it. I approached people, tried to get some backing, talked to politicians, went to meetings, tried to get people involved and everywhere I went I met the same brick wall. The politicians couldn't possibly discuss it because letting the public know it was happening would cause immediate collapse in any case the party funders couldn't have this sort of thing because it might affect profits. My own family wouldn't believe there was a problem because it wasn't on the telly in any case who wants to live like a dirt grubbing peasant when you can have a car and satelite television.

    Nobody was the least bit interested except for my hippy and protestor mates but even with them it all sounds like a bit too much hard work and they'd rather get stoned, party and live off the rubbish bins of the supermarkets.

    They're not interested. How do you manifest that away?
    I promise I won't keep hogging this thread but this is so valuable to me to affirm that I cannot help myself.

    First off, I am going to assume that as in Harry Potter, there is a small issue with magic. Muggles will detest Magic. So though I INSIST that we are all magic, that die-off is not an option, that I will be with Humans (versus people), I paradoxically must detach from the expectation that what I desire is in my control. It will happen in a way that DOES directly effect me but the way will be possibly not anything I expect. I will eventually see what I desire and yet have no control over others' experinece. Yet, I must still have the intention and it must be true. If I desire your die-off, I am asking for my own.

    I will give you an example. A couple of years ago, I wanted very much to be in a community of others who would want to cooperate not due to ideology but out of awareness that in cooperation, sharing the work and pooling energy, we'd all have more freedom. It was only after I gave up the idea of making it happen (with the ones I wanted to share it) that I am now in a small group of powerfully aligned women all with the same idea. We are now invisioning all of what I said I wanted to see (and I never had to make the list be my list) as an exercise in manifestation. This is exactly a result of intention.

    Before this evidence of the dream unfolding happened, I began intense shadow work, and started recollecting myself. I started shattering my willingness to agree to programming. I learned that love of self is accepting and pulling back all the naysayers, hurt baby feelings, angry control freaks and sad eyed waifs of my own being. It is acceptance of my "reality" showing me facets of a diamond in others with my reflection.

    In that time I had very dark moments and very deep fear come up. It became possible to think and feel things and know they were unreal for my truth. I am not done yet and I doubt I will be but I have the greatest tool I have ever held. I know that magic is real.

    I am going to make a blanket statement here and I may be wrong but this is true for me...

    All the lazy blokes, satellite TV addicts, auto hogs, controlling abusers and substance abusers are attracted to us by unacknowledged elements in own field. We attract them like flies to manure. This is also true for angels, creative geniuses, sages, saints and Daddy Warbucks. If they are in our community of contacts, we have the same unseen forces in some form. That is wonderful.

    One has the marvellous opportunity to forgive them all as reflections and as shared elemnets. One must learn to accept and paradoxically be unidentified. One must keep one's heart open and one must keep one's eyes pealed for opportunities that show up. Magic does appear.

    We are always creators. I prefer to know what I know I wish. That is why I will wish only the very best and decline all other offers.

    If one REALLY deals with all that is within one's own programming of emotion, attention to thought forms that have malicious intent, old patterns of familiar comfort, one will not fail to experience the dream. It may not be with the old spouse, the chums, the family of origin. In most cases, no. Freedom into the magic may come at the cost of one's Ego attachment to being right. It may be after one would rather suicide. It may be awfully rocky. BUT THE PROMISE IS THAT WE HAVE the RIGHT TO THRIVE.

    I intend that the world all come to a sweet relief of suffering. The paradox is that out of my intent, I may be the only beneficiary but who knows? I still intend this sincerely. If I am attached to how it all happens. If I wait for the world to change. If I am unwilling to be the beneficiary of gifts no one else wants. Well, I'll be still where I was before I embraced the ideal of freedom and sovereignty and being human. Just my experience of the defrag. Delight

    It may seem starnge that I can at one time wax postic about how we are all magic and then seem to care nothing about the masses achieving it. That is paradox too. What we sincerely desire for others, we will receive and they may spit upon. It won't be in our yard though. We will be back behind the mists. Delight
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    Don't know Belle but ..how about people who are CAPABLE or breaking a program? I have noticed for myself that some people can't. Even with a direct order, they have such extereme cognitive dissonance that it doesn't matter if you grab them by the head of the hair and push their snout into a bowl of oatmeal they will insist its anything but what the program insists it is. If it looks, and tastes like oatmeal, and smells like oat meal, and sounds like oatmeal it must be an archangel.

    Lots of scientific researchers have noted that perhaps 15 to 20 percent of the population is conditioning resistant. Once they are aware of their conditioning they begin to break it in some fashion.It is the remainder, what is their story?

    If a sociopath or psychopath is defined as not having a higher minded connection and running only on lower mind consciouness or density and the accompanying programs then perhaps they are not considered humans. They may 'think' in a program they are but are they really? their feelings and emotions are artificially generated, they are feeling something but its always how it pertains to them. This why we are seeing the creation of sociopaths.

    Then, weirdly, very tuned in people can appear sociopathic because they are just detached from what people consider normal interactions, which is self identifying with everything and making it personal. Very tuned in people don't do that and it gives them an air of detachment or what someone might percieve as callousness. But they are just not participating in whatever program is running . We see sociopathic 'like' behavior in children, they are not quite programmed yet nor sophisticated enough to participate in certain programs. they are literally aware only of them selves and don't understand our social conditioning programs.

    Even people who are operating in a higher mind sort of place may not even know it because of all the programs out there that blur what a higher expresion means.


    Which I see as a sort of spiriutal maturity. Take someone of average maturity like 50 or 60, and they are still not able to manage their emotions or use critical thinking skills or interdependent skills , everything defined as roles and scripting....I'm thinking no....lacking in spiritual maturity. So WHEN is it going to happen? Then we have 20 years olds who are capable of managing themselves or at least making the attempt , they might not be well developed emotionally or mentally but still have this grasp of spiritual maturity..Almost something that doesn't quite have to do with age that is present. You can see it lacking in 50 year olds but see it attempting to emerge in someone much younger.

    What are humans. We tend to think its entities walking around in human form but this would be ideal form for any reasoning sentient being to navigate a physical world in. So what is beneath the skin that composes what is human?. The dead language vault may be able to help us with that, we know of lost races of humans. One of the programs that runs if you have some supernatural ability it means you are wise. That's not so. If the lost Civilaztion of Atlantis anything that having all sorts of high tech abilties and processes, doesn't mean we use them wisely.

    Alternat histories are beginning to show evidence of other entities we thought were mythological or perhaps supernatural actually exists as a humanoid race--like elves--which are described as sentient animals.

    Can you imagine a race like that inhabiting a earth with a very rigid patriachal mindset?. A race of humanoids that came in and out of season like animals, but were otherwise had higher intellgience reasoning capablities, and perhaps the heightened senses of animals. Can you imagine a race like that roaming around while the Catholic Church is attempting to sanitize everyone....that wouldn't last long and apparently they diminished because the loss of their environment and means of existence. Were those people humans? Again what defines a human, the ability to reason? If we are programmed we can't reason we just react.


    From the perspective of wanting to rule the world, if they maintained a population of least conditonable people to a relatively low number of 500 million they'd not have to fear those folks getting out of hand and deciding perhaps THEY should start managing things.

    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't 9eagle9 clearly express the difference between "humans" and "people/persons"? And that the guidestones were written by and for the "humans"? No need for population control of "people"...they aren't considered "human".

    My question is if 'people' break their programming, are they then considered to be 'human'?

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    Quote Posted by write4change (here)
    Your expression of it being a monument and therefore, a memorial for something that has already happened is interesting.

    It is my understanding that it is set on a hill that should survive the various maps of pole shifts. It is made of the hardest granite found and it is lazered cut deep enough for thousands of years of erosion. I have been told that it was Ted Turner who had it erected and that would not surprise me. Remember about that time he offered a million dollars for the best novel defining the problem of how we got here and what we can do about. Ismael won and it has its own web site.

    If you believe this is the four or fifth time this has occurred in the world then what is written is pretty good advice and leaves no confusion as to its meaning if you are a suvivor of a major world castrophe. That it has happened before if you are a reader and researcher, there is little doubt. Some people can face it and some cannot. Like death in American culture, we are not allowed to live with the consideration of evolutionary choices. That is the conditioning, that we cannot know, cannot bear to know, are unable to know, and therefore, all knowledge repression is justified.

    Few people have the courage to continually stand up for truth and its on going quest.

    Now that is pretty interesting,only yesterday i was pondering something quite similar or its possible ''future use'' after flicking through this thread.It struck me as i was reading a gregg braden book and was in a section about earth cycles and what we can learn from the mistakes of our ancestors through the great cities and monuments they left behind.It was a perspective ive never looked at the guide stones before with.

    very interesting.

    That you.

    Peace

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    Quote Posted by David Trd1 (here)
    Quote Posted by write4change (here)
    Your expression of it being a monument and therefore, a memorial for something that has already happened is interesting.

    It is my understanding that it is set on a hill that should survive the various maps of pole shifts. It is made of the hardest granite found and it is lazered cut deep enough for thousands of years of erosion. I have been told that it was Ted Turner who had it erected and that would not surprise me. Remember about that time he offered a million dollars for the best novel defining the problem of how we got here and what we can do about. Ismael won and it has its own web site.

    If you believe this is the four or fifth time this has occurred in the world then what is written is pretty good advice and leaves no confusion as to its meaning if you are a suvivor of a major world castrophe. That it has happened before if you are a reader and researcher, there is little doubt. Some people can face it and some cannot. Like death in American culture, we are not allowed to live with the consideration of evolutionary choices. That is the conditioning, that we cannot know, cannot bear to know, are unable to know, and therefore, all knowledge repression is justified.

    Few people have the courage to continually stand up for truth and its on going quest.

    Now that is pretty interesting,only yesterday i was pondering something quite similar or its possible ''future use'' after flicking through this thread.It struck me as i was reading a gregg braden book and was in a section about earth cycles and what we can learn from the mistakes of our ancestors through the great cities and monuments they left behind.It was a perspective ive never looked at the guide stones before with.

    very interesting.

    That you.

    Peace
    looking at all the evidence and putting the pieces together It looks like the pole shift is on its way any day. i guess all you can do is Live day to day and raise your vibration in unconditional love and in tune with mother Gaia; she is about to cleanse herself.

    peace

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    Quote Posted by Elixer (here)
    .......
    Based on that, 500.000.000, could be a mistake and they may have meant 5000.000,000. 5B.
    Another member had the same idea, which I can discount for you (simply by reading the Chinese stone !!) see here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...087#post226087

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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    If there is any doubt as to the absolute pathology of the programming of 'people', (most common programming tool being the TV which 'people' pay considerable fees to watch), I offer this brief article as ugly proof. I hope a simple link will not interfere with this impotant thread, but help make its' point:http://www.federaljack.com/?p=173411

    The lead in:
    Quote (ORLANDO SENTINEL) The launch of an expensive new basketball shoe — timed to Orlando’s hosting of the NBA All-Star Game — triggered a huge melee Thursday night at the Florida Mall that was put down by deputies in riot gear.
    Thanks !

    I saw the same article yesterday on David Icke's website, this has to be the low-point of human stupidity and programming

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    9e9 could you please tell me when the programming began..... i am deeply looking into what you're talking about, but i really would like to know a start point. just now joining the conversation, please don't be hostile.
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    Quote Posted by joedjemal (here)
    All right, tell me how you see us getting from here to there without major loss of life. Several years ago I could see a way so I set about trying to achieve it. I approached people, tried to get some backing, talked to politicians, went to meetings, tried to get people involved and everywhere I went I met the same brick wall. The politicians couldn't possibly discuss it because letting the public know it was happening would cause immediate collapse in any case the party funders couldn't have this sort of thing because it might affect profits. My own family wouldn't believe there was a problem because it wasn't on the telly in any case who wants to live like a dirt grubbing peasant when you can have a car and satelite television.

    Nobody was the least bit interested except for my hippy and protestor mates but even with them it all sounds like a bit too much hard work and they'd rather get stoned, party and live off the rubbish bins of the supermarkets.

    They're not interested. How do you manifest that away?
    I promise I won't keep hogging this thread but this is so valuable to me to affirm that I cannot help myself.

    First off, I am going to assume that as in Harry Potter, there is a small issue with magic. Muggles will detest Magic. So though I INSIST that we are all magic, that die-off is not an option, that I will be with Humans (versus people), I paradoxically must detach from the expectation that what I desire is in my control. It will happen in a way that DOES directly effect me but the way will be possibly not anything I expect. I will eventually see what I desire and yet have no control over others' experinece. Yet, I must still have the intention and it must be true. If I desire your die-off, I am asking for my own.

    I will give you an example. A couple of years ago, I wanted very much to be in a community of others who would want to cooperate not due to ideology but out of awareness that in cooperation, sharing the work and pooling energy, we'd all have more freedom. It was only after I gave up the idea of making it happen (with the ones I wanted to share it) that I am now in a small group of powerfully aligned women all with the same idea. We are now invisioning all of what I said I wanted to see (and I never had to make the list be my list) as an exercise in manifestation. This is exactly a result of intention.

    Before this evidence of the dream unfolding happened, I began intense shadow work, and started recollecting myself. I started shattering my willingness to agree to programming. I learned that love of self is accepting and pulling back all the naysayers, hurt baby feelings, angry control freaks and sad eyed waifs of my own being. It is acceptance of my "reality" showing me facets of a diamond in others with my reflection.

    In that time I had very dark moments and very deep fear come up. It became possible to think and feel things and know they were unreal for my truth. I am not done yet and I doubt I will be but I have the greatest tool I have ever held. I know that magic is real.

    I am going to make a blanket statement here and I may be wrong but this is true for me...

    All the lazy blokes, satellite TV addicts, auto hogs, controlling abusers and substance abusers are attracted to us by unacknowledged elements in own field. We attract them like flies to manure. This is also true for angels, creative geniuses, sages, saints and Daddy Warbucks. If they are in our community of contacts, we have the same unseen forces in some form. That is wonderful.

    One has the marvellous opportunity to forgive them all as reflections and as shared elemnets. One must learn to accept and paradoxically be unidentified. One must keep one's heart open and one must keep one's eyes pealed for opportunities that show up. Magic does appear.

    We are always creators. I prefer to know what I know I wish. That is why I will wish only the very best and decline all other offers.

    If one REALLY deals with all that is within one's own programming of emotion, attention to thought forms that have malicious intent, old patterns of familiar comfort, one will not fail to experience the dream. It may not be with the old spouse, the chums, the family of origin. In most cases, no. Freedom into the magic may come at the cost of one's Ego attachment to being right. It may be after one would rather suicide. It may be awfully rocky. BUT THE PROMISE IS THAT WE HAVE the RIGHT TO THRIVE.

    I intend that the world all come to a sweet relief of suffering. The paradox is that out of my intent, I may be the only beneficiary but who knows? I still intend this sincerely. If I am attached to how it all happens. If I wait for the world to change. If I am unwilling to be the beneficiary of gifts no one else wants. Well, I'll be still where I was before I embraced the ideal of freedom and sovereignty and being human. Just my experience of the defrag. Delight

    It may seem starnge that I can at one time wax postic about how we are all magic and then seem to care nothing about the masses achieving it. That is paradox too. What we sincerely desire for others, we will receive and they may spit upon. It won't be in our yard though. We will be back behind the mists. Delight

    Not my dieoff, please. It's most emphatically something I don't desire.

    I know magic is real I see it every day. I've spent much of my life observing it, trying to work out how it works. There are certain patterns that become clear.

    It has a mind of its own. It happens in the immediate now. It operates within the rules of the world, by that I mean it has an internal consistency it always emerges out of randomness, out of probability. For example, if you create some light (that others can see I've done it from time to time) there has to be some light in the room first. What seems to be going on is that you're altering the probability that photons of that particular wavelength will travel to your eye from the point you want them to appear from. I've never managed to do it in a completely light proof space although that wasn't something I expected, it's something that emerged from repeated experiments to see how it worked. I think perhaps when you work magic you're choosing which stream of the multiverse you're in.

    I've never seen it do anything that breaks its internal rules I've looked hard for examples where it does and I've yet to see one.

    To make it work yourself you can't be actively thinking about it in my experience, it's more like you have to be it without thought. Sort of like a koan. It's quite delicate in a way, a hostile observer can prevent it working. That observer can be yourself.

    For example, one of the exercises I do is manifesting dice throws in a backgammon game on my computer. For months I'd won every match against the machine at its top level, then one day I mentioned it in the forum for some reason and I lost every match I played with it for a couple of days until it became apparent that the post had been forgotten and it started working again.

    In any case, my point is this. I don't think that we can use magic to resolve this situation. Too many other observers are involved and on top of that I think that it's a lesson humanity needs to learn. You don't trash your life support systems.

    Remember that this world is only a simulation, it is being created by consciousness and that consciousness is operating at a level of understanding way beyond any individual human that I know of. Even something as dreadful as a dieoff won't harm the essence behind us, we're here to learn. Respect for life seems to me to be one of the primary lessons.

    Anyway, enough rambling. If you can manifest a reality where we fix things and don't go through what seems to be heading our way then please do it. I'd rather not have to experience it. In fact my own work is mostly about making sure that it doesn't happen in my own immediate vicinity. I can do a certain amount in that direction. Magic on its own isn't enough though. You have to add action to the mix as well.

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    Oh Wow....where it started at is like ...all over the place a long time ago.

    Individually it starts within the family, our parents give us our first roles, and then conditioning is built from and added on from there.

    Historically, there's a tough one. When politics became less a means of organizing people than controlling them, religions became external institutions to also control people. And theres evidence of DNA tampering going back thousands of years. Collectively its gone back quite a long ways. Those are just briefs, lots of people in the forum has presented all sort of angles regarding conditioning. People specualting on alternative histories are revealing historically we have been kept blind to what has occured in the past. And these programs are designed to all conflict with each other.

    Conditioning is meant to preserve something. And its not always bad but it can get out control and it has. Now its used as a means to control us. An easy means of control because we become self policing.

    The starting would be our programming starting with family and cultural and religious programming. I have more recently witnessed people who have invested a lot of time excavating thier own personal conditioning and they began finding psychic trauma that is shared on a collective level. There's been many collective traumas inflicted on mankind historically speaking that were of catastrophic nature, like the Great Flood or the Destruction that shut us down, and then made all other manipulative sorts of conditioning possible. It's very easy to condition a wounded psyche, that is the basis of the trauma-abuse brainwash mechanism they use in shadow governments. 9/11 was meant to traumatize us so they could take more control. Maybe intially naturally occur trauma that was shared over however many eons and now its artificially generated.

    This is part of the reason they dangle future catastrophe and destruction over our heads is that we have some inner memory of previous events and once we reconcile those past events we are able have clearer perspective...that catastrophe program in our heads as much as that " a ufo is coming to save me" program. One very nearly depends on the other, people can only stay in state of artifical fear before something has to be found to pacify it. if your not bothered or these traumas have been abated you don't have to find beleifs to pacify them.

    The psyche records everything and the subconsious can't tell fact from fantasy or frame things in their proper time line. When preople over-react to subjects like that , they may touching a very old deep and collectively shared wound. And that wound is manipulated. DNA has been revealing some of this conditioning. DNA tampering only means portions of our DNA have been coded or conditioned. Consciouness will condition DNA, conversely when you start clearing your conscious your DNA begins to break from this conditioning as well. DNA is a means of recording things, its become a sort of new Akashic records as far retrieving information.


    Like Joel said, you can't NOT think. Thinking is a function to have physical existence, but we try to make they are our own thoughts. And a lot of our thoughts have emotions attached to them. This is why people get triggered when their belief systems are challenged as if it were a personal challenge and not challenging a concept. Their self identity is being assumed by a belief. Their lost. They can't separate themselves from their beliefs or emotions.

    Our own thoughts should not harm us. Their thoughts. They shouldn't cause pain nor should the thoughts of other's cause pain. So when we feeling that emo trigger going off there's a sign there is some conditioning present and its an opportunity to step back and think Why Am I Re-acting this way."

    The PTB does this all the time, just releases more thoughts as 'reality' or future reality and everyone reacts; that how they keep collective conditioning in place to a certain extent.



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    9e9 could you please tell me when the programming began..... i am deeply looking into what you're talking about, but i really would like to know a start point. just now joining the conversation, please don't be hostile.
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    Re: "how do we cope?"

    You mean, 9eagle9, with a bunch of self destructive bozos (my words)?
    How did we deal with bullies all of our lives?

    forgiveness, understanding, relating to them, and detaching from the idea that we need them to change in order for us to feel better now.

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    Can yoy see anything written on The Georgia Guidestones about population
    reduction plans? I cant


    I said "DISCUSSION" not plans...my main concern is not how I articulate or recite whats on those stones...it is the IDEOLOGY that surrounds myth in our world. I was simply stating my perspective, im not here to say who right or wrong
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    If we are incapable of managing our own consciousness we make room for something to come in an manage it for us.

    This doesn't give us much entitlement to be good managers of an entire globe.



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    We X Billions want to change the world and it appears we are......
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    To give some reality on how a programmed individual keeps on going with the program whether the latter is performed on one out-of-body as in "The Programming of A Planet" (abductions or `in-between lives') or through an upbringing within a particular culture or tradition, here is an example of a mom who tried to talk some sense into her son who is still caught up into what has become a cult:

    Quote Sadly, the last time we saw our son who is still in the S.O.*, I pointed out the outpoint of "Super Power"* to him. He could not respond other than to repeat how the building needs to be finished first and the staff in place before the tech can be delivered.

    I kept trying to get him to duplicate that all that isn’t required to get staff through, even if only one at a time. It was amazing for me to see how he could not respond other than to state the party line about the building. He just could not think it through.

    The only other time I have personally witnessed what I saw in my son was a time years ago when a friend of mine was hypnotized by her brother in front of me and her boyfriend. Her brother asked me what I would like him to have her do after he woke her up. I wanted to see if she would repeat something that she would considered silly under normal circumstances. I said, have her get up and flush the toilet every time you tug at your collar.

    So he gave her the command, then woke her up. He tugged his collar, she got up, went into the bathroom and flushed the toilet, came back and sat down. He tugged his collar again, and she did it again. And again. After three or four times, I finally asked her why she kept getting up to flush the toilet.

    First, she just said it needed flushing. She did it again. And again, I asked her why she kept flushing the toilet. Each time I asked her, she would make up some lame reason as to why she had to flush the toilet.

    She got more and more annoyed at me for asking, but she did it again and again upon command and could never see that there was anything strange about it.

    Her brother hypnotized her once more to release her of the command, but what an amazing thing to have witnessed.

    This is what I saw in my son. He could not answer a simple question about Super Power, but only parrot the party line.
    Emphasis ,mine, to underline what happens with an awake individual's "friends" who just refuse to hear or talk about anything else than what's on TeeVee...

    So... how to un-hypnotize skull-dwelling zombies who are either under the spell of post-hypnotic orders and behaviours, or an equivalent, when they are not only unaware of it but would fight anyone attempting to demonstrate it to them... tough catch-22 job!


    * "Orthodox" Church of Scienlogy building in Clearwater, Fl., operated by the S.O. or "Sea Organisation."

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    Sometimes Goals are written out and sometimes the same people share plans in other places. Eugenics is definitely part of the ptb belief system and plans. There are plenty of places to read of their desires to wipe out most of the people. Prince Phillip wants to come back as a virus to kill most everyone, Maafa21 is a great movie to show them trying to wipe out the black race via planned parenthood and eugenics. There are literally dozens of documents I could pull up that speak of this "plan" to wipe the people out via sickness, war, famine, and they are implementing said plans doing a soft kill and a hard kill right now.

    So, while I see the point of the OP, they implemented the vaccine programs in full force beginning in the late 50's and one of the main scientists said there was a cancer causing agent in the vaccines from the monkey's used which would not show up for some 40 years at least. So, in effect they did already ensure the deaths of millions and wow, they even get us to pay for treatments that add to the misery index. Flouride and other chemicals they are dumping on us are causing ill health. I think you all can see where I am going with this thought process, so it's already been done, and part of an energetic working is to see it as completed and not just wishful thinking. It's up to us to see it as failed and their plans as being rubbish and when the thought of "it's done" is planted via a monument is a seed being watered in our psyche to keep that working alive and well as we also hear it is done?
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    [QUOTE=Unified Serenity;436611]Sometimes Goals are written out and sometimes the same
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    Quote Remember that this world is only a simulation, it is being created by consciousness and that consciousness is operating at a level of understanding way beyond any individual human that I know of. Even something as dreadful as a dieoff won't harm the essence behind us, we're here to learn. Respect for life seems to me to be one of the primary lessons....
    .......Magic on its own isn't enough though. You have to add action to the mix as well.
    I resonate completely to this point that consciousness creates this UNFOLDING play. And we are of that consciousness and we have directed many parts (I am speaking of the 3D level. I do not know about the larger levels really). I am sure there is some cosmic purpose to learning to direct more skillfully so that the play is more enjoyable. But, I think this is just a next step and not the end. It is a paradox that we are directed by consciousness and that we are consciousness itself.

    Jetison of personal baggage has changed my life to bring more happiness. I first had to learn that this is possible. One has to sort of get over what oneself wants to be true. This is the big action step for me...letting go of the "programming". I actually wanted it to be true that I was at the effect of some cause. That is deep self sabotage.

    We can all "get over" anything presented because we are much larger than our minds, our emotions, our history. The largest threat and what may be resisted is that things WILL CHANGE. I didn't make this up...someone "smart" said it. People prefer the familiar.

    Agreements to the status quo are even played out in the truth movement anger about the system. Perennial attention to wrongs and our justified anger about the system is also part of the system we created to serve a drama. Imagine, who would you be without your problems and dramas?

    Stepping away is quite challenging because we have to step out from our conceptions of ourselves as we play a part. That is why so many advocate meditation and all activity that increases trust in the larger aspect of ourselves: first hand knowing oneself in the big picture. Without some trust, it wouldn't be possible to release grasping.

    One big program is about powerlessness. How much trust do you feel in your power? Do you want the responsibility of that power (no one to blame)? This is huge.

    I say that the process of magic is a step into maturity. Aligning with a larger aspect of self and learning to trust that power is a new human stage. It works best with the least amount of effort and stress. The technology definitely is a new tool. One has to have a certain amount of willingness to engage it FIRST.

    MAGIC is a consciousness technology. Consciousness seems to be orchestrating "something" that asks us to commit in a new way of approach to the familiar. Do we align more or less with consciousness intention for its own evolving? And what will happen out of aligning at a larger level of consciousness?
    Arthur C. Clarke identified three laws of prediction...

    1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
    2.The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
    3.Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    The thread below has a documentary that implies that the shift Consciousness is choosing is beyond any one "person's" control. Yet, the play of consciousness starts with us individually. I think we get to choose how we experience the shift.

    For many, maybe its like Collective 12 step "getting sick and tired of being sick and tired" and willingness to let go. But I do believe we can go ahead and accept the change and have more fun.

    The documentary reiterates several times that we would be better off letting go of baggage. Why? Because without baggage to carry we will float in high waters (or fly in the air?). Delight

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    Cartomancer said:
    Quote Interesting given I know who built them and they have nothing to do with any witches of this sort. It does go to show you how things may be misinterpreted but this is part of the plan too. They want us to speculate but not really know.
    Would you be willing to share your knowledge with fellow Avolonians?

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    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    Cartomancer said:
    Quote Interesting given I know who built them and they have nothing to do with any witches of this sort. It does go to show you how things may be misinterpreted but this is part of the plan too. They want us to speculate but not really know.
    Would you be willing to share your knowledge with fellow Avolonians?
    I have shared the absolute truth about the Georgia Guidestones and many other monuments with this forum many times.
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    Quote Posted by Cartomancer (here)
    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    Cartomancer said:
    Quote Interesting given I know who built them and they have nothing to do with any witches of this sort. It does go to show you how things may be misinterpreted but this is part of the plan too. They want us to speculate but not really know.
    Would you be willing to share your knowledge with fellow Avolonians?

    I have shared the absolute truth about the Georgia Guidestones and many other monuments with this forum many times.

    I knew I shouldn't have said that about my sources (two). If you look at the video I posted earlier in this thread you will understand. I randomly encountered a person who saw this video. He first told me that I was 100% correct and then he proved to me who he was and where he was from as well how and why he knew everything. He contacted me. I can't say right now and respect his wishes not to be named. You can call b.s. if you want. After researching this I knew exactly which specific group of people did it and I was proven correct.

    The Georgia Guidestones were built as part of the grail legends of N. America. If you would like to learn the entire story I have at least half of my book for free at Survivalcell.blogspot.com. and have posted many videos on this subject so also check my past posted threads.

    There is a very telling scene from the show "Decoded with Brad Meltzer" about the Georgia Guidestones. The part where he is interviewing the curator of the Guidestones Museum spills the beans and led me to meet the individual that I spoke to. The rest of the show is very far off base from what the truth is and probably was designed to hide the truth.
    Didn't think so.

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    [QUOTE=gooty64;436710][QUOTE=Cartomancer;436705]
    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    Cartomancer said:
    Quote Interesting given I know who built them and they have nothing to do with any witches of this sort. It does go to show you how things may be misinterpreted but this is part of the plan too. They want us to speculate but not really know.
    Would you be willing to share your knowledge with fellow Avolonians?
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