Submarine "Lawn Darts"

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved some posts from this thread to a new thread: Is it channeling; is it telepathic (was: Submarine "Lawn Darts").

This move, in and of itself, is not casting dispersions on anything that was said here ... just sorting things out by focus.

(Actually, I found myself contemplating a response to some of the posts I just now moved, but noticed it would be further off-topic discussion for this thread ... so figured I should move the off topics posts first.)

[DreamsInDigital]

I think the ultimate point behind these "stunts" or "pranks" or what ever you guys want to call them is to force the break of the strangle hold that the Government and Censorship has on the media, and prove beyond any chance of doubt that YES ET/ED's exist, and that they are infact here to help us. It's not about us in the alternative community that already know they exist, and the few of us that already know they are here helping us. It's for the "average joes" that need these kind of examples, need to be physically shown.

We've already had soft disclosure from the governments around the world releasing tones of files on UFO's/ET's etc. But, it's been done so quietly because of what ever reasons.

Ultimately it will be a great thing when it is proved to the world that ET/ED's exist, because it will collapse the NWO/Shadow Government. And, there will be forced the introduction of Free Energy Devices, Inter-Steller Travel, better medical care, etc, etc, etc. And end the Depopulation Program as well. It's all about protecting and saving as many innocent lives as absolutely possible.

Besides, wouldn't you all like a huge visual undeniable victory and to know for a fact that the NWO/PTW/Global Elite are being pulverized? Do you know how much the world will ignite in positive energy when this can be proven. And how much easier that will make the final last bits of fight against the NWO/PTW/Global Elite.

Did I mention the whole sticking the B-2 Bat Wing that was snatched out of the air infront of two other pilots, is possibly destined to be parked in the middle of the Golden Gate Bridge?

[Calz]

Perhaps we are all having a bit too much fun with this ... or not???

Undeniable for all those that love to pound their chest demanding "proof" that nuke missles have been shut down on several occasions.

... so where does that leave us???


Personally I laughed my butt off when Wilcock suggested the scourge of the alphabet agencies ... those pesky "Space Hippies"




In all seriousness I believe there has long been "help" behind the scenes in ways we have little idea or understanding.


No that doesn't mean ET will "save us" (from ourselves) but perhaps it isn't such a black and white issue as many want to believe.


The point has been raised and should well be considered ... if the "elite" are so very ready to start WW3 ... then why has it not happened yet?


Supposedly all it would take would be pressing a button ... whoosh ... missiles go flying.


Why has not that yet happened???


Is that more accessible for everyone here than dematerialized submarines being placed who knows where (Lennon aside)???

[phimonic]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

how many did aliens stop so far?

and what about those?: (seems like a busy task these days)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lJs5isukWh8

[thunder24]

thats a good question phi,,, talking about putting things on bridges and monuments seems like such a waste of time, and a distraxtion for the rest of our memebers here... Oh i know, mayb we can focus and change the timeline back to when there were no explosions.

[Calz]

Yes massive number of tests ... many underground ... in the past in the air.

Aside from depleted uranium in the areas deployed ... where has there been a nuclear bomb detonated to kill since WW2???

Do those numbers add up???

All those tests ... all those weapons ... and yet nothing (again aside from DU)???

[thunder24]

If its detonated to kill or not, what does that matter? The fact stands it hurts the earth and, in turn, us....

really?

[DreamsInDigital]

You really make a lot of great points Calz, and specially the way you put things, I think makes it much more clear for others to understand. Something I'm not always that good at, though I try.

[Calz]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
If its detonated to kill or not, what does that matter? The fact stands it hurts the earth and, in turn, us....

really?

Good question.

Wish I had the answer.

From the most spiritually advanced soul I know ... it has been suggested Gaia will not be allowed to have humanity stop her "ascension".

Yes fighting words in the forum of late ... for whatever reason ... cannot offer proof to those who demand it.

Some things are beyond proof.

Less hard to "prove" is really stop and ponder on why ... why ... if all it takes was simply depression of a button to launch all this ... has it not happened???

Does that not make sense to anyone?

[phimonic]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Yes massive number of tests ... many underground ... in the past in the air.

Aside from depleted uranium in the areas deployed ... where has there been a nuclear bomb detonated to kill since WW2???

Do those numbers add up???

All those tests ... all those weapons ... and yet nothing (again aside from DU)???

well actually they do kill every day, and will for many millenia - but they rather do it slowly these days , with depleted uranium ammunition - in bagdad 80% of children get born with severe defects,.. - in afghanistan they put tons of this stuff into the fresh-water-reserves of a whole desert region - it's a genocide over many years .

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=repUEeI0hGk

not always need a huge BANG to do severe damage, and if not necessary, then why make big noise around it ,..

i mean what is the gulf-war syndrom - what are they using in their wars of the last years,.. ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hWTJ1let0so

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HvbC-eqF9ec

[Calz]

Posted by phimonic (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Yes massive number of tests ... many underground ... in the past in the air.

Aside from depleted uranium in the areas deployed ... where has there been a nuclear bomb detonated to kill since WW2???

Do those numbers add up???

All those tests ... all those weapons ... and yet nothing (again aside from DU)???

well actually they do kill every day, and will for many millenia - but they rather do it slowly these days , with depleted uranium ammunition - in bagdad 80% of children get born with severe defects,.. - in afghanistan they put tons of this stuff into the fresh-water-reserves of a whole desert region - it's a genocide over many years .

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=repUEeI0hGk

not always need a huge BANG to do severe damage, and if not necessary, then why make big noise around it ,..

i mean what is the gulf-war syndrom - what are they using in their wars of the last years,.. ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hWTJ1let0so

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HvbC-eqF9ec

Yep ... 100% agree about that (DU is slow kill for the entire northern hemisphere).

Only caveat would be changes to our bodies from what even mainstream science admits are changes to our dna ... again I don't know and can only offer what (to me) makes sense. Some suggest that changes due to where our solar system is traveling though in conjunction with the sun is changing us dramatically (as has happened sometimes in the past).

The more conservative and safer approach would be to head underground (which those with money have been working towards for several decades now).

[thunder24]

And what happens to the submarines crew...r they killed if deemed by "offworlders" bad? Who gives offworlders the right to do such? How is this helpful to us?

Do they think that offworlders are the main force of the NWO? If so, then take care of those guys, if not then quite goofing off.

[onawah]

According to the channeler Suzy Ward, when people die in nuclear explosions, it does more than just kill their bodies.
It has an extra-dimensional effect, and harms the subtle bodies as well, which means that it interrupts the individual soul's ability to proceed on with incarnating and evolution.
In essence, what she says is that it fragments souls, and that they need lengthy and intensive assistance and healing to be re-integrated.
(In healing circles, it's known as "soul retrieval".)
Apparently, this can happen in the case of other traumas as well, but not as drastically as with nuclear explosions.

So the decree as to what intervention is allowed by ET/EDs was changed to allow the prevention of nuclear explosions that would fragment souls.
I don't know which messages she addressed these issues, but her website with archives is:
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm

I'm not saying that I understand this, or necessarily think it's correct, I'm just offering this as a bit of possible explanation.
However, inasmuch as I think Gaia also has a soul as such, and the explosions and nuclear waste, etc. are harming her, I wish the allowed interventions, if there are such things, would include stopping the "testing" of any nuclear devices on the planet, as well as the use of Depleted Uranium, creating of nuclear waste, etc
Suzy Ward says that would probably have to wait until the ETs are able to be more open about their presence here, and/or are here in greater numbers.

I agree with Calz in that I think the ET/EDs must be helping or we would probably be extinct by now, but the questions remain as to who they are, what their plans and agendas are, who their human spokespeople are, if any, and so on.
Since we are also told that there are psyops which can probably make people think they are in touch with ETs/EDs through channeling and/or telepathy we will probably have to wait until there is verifiable proof.
And it looks like only time will tell on these questions,because we're not there yet.

Meanwhile, I really like what Dedukshyn said on this thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...245#post439245

I hate to be simplistic, but in reality "belief" is the weapon used against us, and it works because we all believe something. All they have to do is cover all the bases with some disinfo, and then we are basically left with an impossible task.

Let's back this up a minute. What can we do to nullify this process of control? Stop Believing (And thereby continuously allowing all possibilities-important for conscious creation). It may sound weird but if we focus our attention in the experience of the moment and believe the moment, they lose all power over us, as our "choices" are no longer guided by their "conditioning". We have been conditioned to "believe" the opposite is true. I no longer believe anything outright, but rather I entertain considerations based on how much confidence I can give them via my knowledge, external input, logic, rationale, etc. But I never have to believe anything. It is a false notion. I have nothing to defend, thus nothing to lose; and more the wiser. My two cents

[Ascension]

Wherever it is placed, it should be put in a position that would be impossible for any human to have accomplished. Either hovering off the ground or balanced off center, touching the ground.

[DreamsInDigital]

Another one that has been discussed but not settled on entirely yet, was putting something like a B-2 (since they have one of those and can always take more if they want) in the middle of a field during a broad casted nationally, Baseball or Football Game. And, jamming the signals so that the networks can't "cut the signal". The thing that was suggested though with this situation was that it would be more impressive if the sub or plane was suspended. But, then I think even "lawn darting" a sub in a thing like that...would be impressive. Specially done out of no-where.

[EnergyGardener]

If Uncle Bobby stops by with a birthday gift for me, I am not going to ask him why he didn't bring me that gift a month earlier.

If Aunt Suzie brings me a new heirloom vegetable for my garden, I am not going to refuse it because I would have enjoyed that addition to my garden last year.

If my neighbor Joe offers to provide an organic means to eliminate blight from my tomatoes, I am not going to complain that he didn't prevent the cucumber beetle disaster to my gourds two years ago.

If ET now has a "legal permission" and a timeline to take out the Illuminati, and will do so in greater earnest with our visualization, meditation / prayer, why would anyone refuse that offer and ask what is so special about this year more than any other? Why wouldn't we instead make every attempt to awaken others so that we all can manifest this outcome faster with less damage, destruction, suffering and loss of life?

If placing submarine "Lawn Darts" and other unavoidable signs, in high profile locations around the world for: 1) demonstration of the recent defeat and fallibility of our past tyrants, thieves, pedophiles, murderers, and owners of the physical world; 2) demonstration of approaching open Contact with our newly allied ETs to bring in the new era as described above by D.I.D., what sense does it make to not make that effort; or worse, complain?

Such absurd questions on this and other threads do provide a distraction, particularly when this forum openly states that ET issues and disclosure, are one of its purposes. Is it a coincidence that there is inevitably at least one unrelenting cynic positioned on each positive thread acting as a disenfranchising agent, making every effort to dilute the attention to, purpose and outcome of the message?

Or, are these curious questions simply another reflection of our deteriorating educational systems?

Either way, I have faith in human intelligence and goodness, that for those truly seeking solutions to recreate our new world without shadows, they/you shall realize and appreciate the "truth" and bounty of this garden, despite the weeds. For many reasons, and by our mutual efforts as a minority of dedicated gardeners, this too shall pass.

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Another one that has been discussed but not settled on entirely yet, was putting something like a B-2 (since they have one of those and can always take more if they want) in the middle of a field during a broad casted nationally, Baseball or Football Game. And, jamming the signals so that the networks can't "cut the signal". The thing that was suggested though with this situation was that it would be more impressive if the sub or plane was suspended. But, then I think even "lawn darting" a sub in a thing like that...would be impressive. Specially done out of no-where.

Of course, their concern (ET's) and ours, will be not to cause panic and injury or worse. I believe it must be something that is structurally stable (stuff happens), revealed instantly or at nighttime for discovery at morning, then disappears soon after in the same way. The metal (swords) of these war vehicles will be very valuable, and must be hauled to foundries to be melted (plowshears) for useful purpose, including new anti-gravity vehicles for all.

[DreamsInDigital]

Oh definitely, safety and protection of innocent lives is the number one priority in all these that is taken into consideration with each "event". I completely agree with what you said in your post btw. You are another one that really has a way of putting things into clear perspectives. Well done!

[Maia Gabrial]

So, Mozart what's wrong with putting a sub or 2 across a very busy 4 lane highway and stopping traffic for an indefinite time? That'll certainly get everyone's attention and have them wondering how the h*** it got there. But it shouldn't stop with just one place. Obvious spots.... How about one across the Capitol steps? It would take FOREVER to haul it out of there, giving time for many people to see it. I dare Lame Stream to ignore it.... I dare Obama to claim it as a holiday display....

Submarine "lawn darts"?
Making monuments disappear?
Ships on parking lots?

No such elaborate efforts are necessary.
(Not to mention that they would not necessarily prove anything, because such things are perfectly attainable with illusionist tricks.)

If any ET want to make their presence known, it would suffice to do something or all of the following, which I am assuming such a power should be able to do effortlessly:

- Appear, low and clearly visible, over international waters, not far from land, just out of reach of any individual country's authority;

- Appear simultaneously over various cities, or other places where a significant number of people will be able to see you, all over the world;

- Contact the media and world leaders (they are people, too - they would be impressed ;

- Intercept a few popular TV and radio stations and make an announcement.

(If all this sounds familiar, it's because I've suggested it - twice - in a different thread, but for some reason it didn't generate much agreement. :-))

As to NeverMind's suggestion, they're already doing these things and the word doesn't get out there.... It's going to take a bigger demonstration than that... If Lame Stream and govt officials are impressed, they're not showing it....or sharing....

[gypsybutterflykiss]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I love every one of your suggestions, Mozart! Only, I'd recommend ALL of them EVERYWHERE! Put 5 or more lawn darts on the WH lawn. I'm saying litter every lmajor city with them; so that it would take alot of time and effort to remove them.... In the meantime, people will witness it as it's being covered up....
I laughed my a** off at your ideas, but I approve wholeheartedly!

Do you think they could swap out the whitehouse with a Walmart..? High fives all around for "corporate America"!