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    i don't buy this story. so a small minority of women who were envious of the physical strength of men, decided to have sex with the nephelim because they were more powerful because of their technology. these women then use this technology from the nephelim to destroy every earth born male. did i get the story right? so now women today are being punished for these crimes. and the men on earth today are some strange hybrid of the original man from long ago?
    Hi Schneider, that's what I think he said too. I quiery this for now, but I will allow time for MT to explain further when he says he will deliver a seminar or talk soon.

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    this divine feminine wind which is gathering strength and speed in the world

    is a resurgence from the old post flood cultures


    Inanna in Sumer Ishtar in Assyria Isis in Egypt Astarte in Greece

    in Scripture she is mentioned as the queen of heaven whom the Israelites worshiped in the time before the Babylonian captivity but warned against by the prophet Jeremiah because it provoked God


    "Do you not see what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?

    "The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and [they] pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger. - Jeremiah 7:17-18




    she is the femme fatale of fallen spirits

    and still blowing strong


    this divine feminine wind which is gathering strength and speed in the world


    Satan did not trick Adam

    he left that to Eve


    i am sure there is a lesson there


    the feminine has always been more sensitive to the speeches of spirits

    but not so good in discriminating between them
    Hi RedeZra, Maybe the serpent found it easier to lure Eve than it could Adam. It knew woman could trick man so left it that way.

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    Default Re: Historic Michael Tsarion interview. FEMALE ILLUMINATI. FreeTruth Show

    After listening to the interview I remembered that this same subject is in "Conversations with God", in the book there's a description somehow similar but not the same about how power changed hands from women to men. The short story says that women were powerful and they didn't need men (for survival), men were kind of labor and sexual slaves.
    After a while men got tired and they started plotting to change things and they were able to do it through fear and that's how the idea of a male God came to fruition, the male God that the men created was vengeful and a tyrant.

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    Default Re: Historic Michael Tsarion interview. FEMALE ILLUMINATI. FreeTruth Show

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    Satan did not trick Adam

    he left that to Eve
    Hi RedeZra, Maybe the serpent found it easier to lure Eve than it could Adam. It knew woman could trick man so left it that way.

    Stan

    hi Stan


    we must face the facts

    that women have been known

    to trick men once in a while


    but this goes both ways


    men cannot claim innocence

    in the tricking department

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    After listening to the interview I remembered that this same subject is in "Conversations with God", in the book there's a description somehow similar but not the same about how power changed hands from women to men.
    Scripture says the wife shall obey her husband

    as Eve tricked Adam to disobey God


    women say

    when the ring is on you're mine ; )

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    Default Re: Historic Michael Tsarion interview. FEMALE ILLUMINATI. FreeTruth Show

    No I suppose I can't, one either gets it or they don't.


    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Women really don't have to do anything but know their own power and use it repsonsbily. Not abusing it and tailoring it to express itself like filmy gentle Summer Eve douche commericals or being roaringly aggressive but just allowing it to be what it is. We try to define what femininty is and what masculinity is and how we do tht doens't serve either one.

    This video explains to me why I find men so annoying in close quarters. Most men anyway, there are a few rare ones who are intellgient and truly quiet in their masculinity and intelligent. An intelligent man who isn't assimlated in all this conditioning...oh my god, panties down.

    . This is a barren paradigm for a straight woman who find most of the male population to be co dependently annoying and energy vampires. Where I want to scream, "Look dude, I am NOT here to make YOU look good. and I'm NOT here for you to manage in covert and overt ways." The co dependently covert ways are the ones that drives me insane . The overtly blustering insecure ones carry their own red flags but the coverts "I'm a nice guy" are the ones that have my trigger finger twitihing when they get in my space. Or rather insist on imposing on my space.

    I think Momma's boy got a whole new definition

    It could even explain why women like gay men as friends.

    If you start rolling this around in the processors this could show that homosexuality is a means correcting something that went wrong a long time ago. If you know what I mean. Just speculation of course.

    Quote Posted by CdnSirian (here)
    Extreme buffering problems... and
    "I don't think Michael wants women to do anything...". Yeop. Reasons why women should do something, despite a person like this.
    Hi 9Eagle9 I haven't a scooby what you are saying here. Could you make yourself a wee bit clearer please.

    Stan

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    Default Re: Historic Michael Tsarion interview. FEMALE ILLUMINATI. FreeTruth Show

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    Quote Posted by cloud9 (here)
    After listening to the interview I remembered that this same subject is in "Conversations with God", in the book there's a description somehow similar but not the same about how power changed hands from women to men.
    Scripture says the wife shall obey her husband

    as Eve tricked Adam to disobey God


    women say

    when the ring is on you're mine ; )
    Well, we all know what happens when women have to obey men.... being there and done that.... not a good thing. I dunno about the ring thing... I got the ring and there's no way I own him...

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    Default Re: Historic Michael Tsarion interview. FEMALE ILLUMINATI. FreeTruth Show

    Quote Posted by cloud9 (here)
    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)

    Scripture says the wife shall obey her husband

    as Eve tricked Adam to disobey God


    women say

    when the ring is on you're mine ; )
    Well, we all know what happens when women have to obey men.... being there and done that.... not a good thing. I dunno about the ring thing... I got the ring and there's no way I own him...

    i do not presume to speak for all men and women

    just a fair percentage of them


    and you're right

    the ring doesn't mean women own their men


    but it has come to my attention

    that some think so lol

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    Default Re: Historic Michael Tsarion interview. FEMALE ILLUMINATI. FreeTruth Show

    It doesn't seem impossible that all the men had been killed off. Just look at the ways available today to kill off large, targeted, groups of people.
    It's the WILL to do it that gets me! This I believe is what Michael wants us to remember because it is happening again. We can't stop what we
    can't see coming at us. And it won't just be the men this time.
    westhill

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    Quote Posted by schneider (here)
    i don't buy this story. so a small minority of women who were envious of the physical strength of men, decided to have sex with the nephelim because they were more powerful because of their technology. these women then use this technology from the nephelim to destroy every earth born male. did i get the story right? so now women today are being punished for these crimes. and the men on earth today are some strange hybrid of the original man from long ago?
    no, its more like an out side influence presented itself as benevolent, it was REALLY looking for weakness (deception again...) they found a certain subset of women that were envious of men & they seduced them & probably twisted them into the actions that were taken (this is a bit of my own opinion mixed in with what I heard) as this presentation wasn't full or complete I think its hard to get a super clear picture of what went on.

    I don't see this as "women are bad" or "were bad" I see it as an intelligent outside influence imposed itself and its agendas on humanity via deception and the outcome (which may or may not have been their desire, the human ego doesn't need much help when it comes time to do terrible things) was strong duality in the sex roles.. but I can see this as a desired out come as reality does NOT exist with out duality, perhaps they were pushing a fractal agenda to extend 3d reality for longer by seeding races with these long term duality struggles?

    I don't see this as a closed or final statement, I see it as a new avenue for research and learning (no blame, no malice, just seeking understanding; as I think we all desire to do)
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    A long time ago I had recieved some information concerning the origins of man. What I seen were thise humanoid beings that were female but in a androgenous way. They were conducting some sort of ritual because they were attempting to perfect something about themselves. So they essentiallly had this rite where sorta purged greed, and other undesirable attributes. What resulted from yakking up all this crud was the creation of Mankind. No not very flattering I know. It wasn't MEN specifically just mankind. This video has sorta made me rethink some things here.

    Maybe Question if Tsarion may be percieving this androgynous race and mistaking it for women, but this race was responsible perhaps for the creation of mankind . And perhaps maybe responsible for its destruction as well. That word man kind you know is always indicating mankind as both genders perhaps they are not.

    Then this may also validate this information I recieved in some way. Not getting firmly fixed on it one or the other.

    I once mentioned before that I was felt that men and women were two different species. Not that one is better than the other just more like the difference between a horse and a pony. The same but different. One wonders...

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    I once mentioned before that I was felt that men and women were two different species. Not that one is better than the other just more like the difference between a horse and a pony. The same but different. One wonders...
    it is well known that women are from men

    or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )

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    it is well known that women are from men

    or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )
    That is not well known, but is a myth perpetuated by the elite controllers who wrote the bible at the Council of Nicaea and had no historical basis for such a claim, and it is incongruous to make an assumption that "because" it is in the bible, then it is "well known" to be the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Current genome mapping of homo sapiens sapiens and homo erectus actually proves that there were one female and twelve males that originated the current species, although there may have been more female originators whose lineage dies in great cataclysms over the 65 million year history of known human species on this planet. There is but a 1.5% difference between the DNA in a chimpanzee and the DNA in homo erectus.

    So, you may want to look into the research of Cremo and Thompson, more specifically "The Hidden History of Planet Earth" or Joseph Farrell's work, or any of the other great genetic researchers of today.

    The promulgated myth by the elite who wrote the bible, that mankind started with Adam and Eve about 6,000 years ago is false.

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    it is well known that women are from men

    or Eve at least was one rib of Adam ; )
    That is not well known, but is a myth perpetuated by the elite controllers who wrote the bible at the Council of Nicaea and had no historical basis for such a claim, and it is incongruous to make an assumption that "because" it is in the bible, then it is "well known" to be the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Current genome mapping of homo sapiens sapiens and homo erectus actually proves that there were one female and twelve males that originated the current species
    i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )


    oh have you ever wondered where the one female and the twelve males came from

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    i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )
    I'm sorry, but if it's in scripture, it is most likely false, or at least twisted and changed to suit the elite controllers who wrote it.

    You see, they want you to only look at their book and ignore the true history of this planet. They say, don't bother looking back there because there's nothing to see but a bunch of dead dinosaurs.

    Not true. The twisted story in the bible is only about 2% of the history of this planet, and the ancient texts tell a very different story which goes back millions of millions of years and takes in at least five epochs. There are archeological artifacts recently discovered which are very advanced and date back 65 million years!

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    i'm sorry but if it's in Scripture then it's true ; )
    I'm sorry, but if it's in scripture, it is most likely false, or at least twisted and changed to suit the elite controllers who wrote it.

    no it's all true and it is the Book of God and He Guards it from tampering

    by the PTB who controls science and so scientists

    who apply faulty methods for dating things


    people are mostly concerned about their paycheck

    so they go along playing by the rules ; )



    oh have you figured out where the female and her twelve male companions came from yet ?
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    no it's all true and it is the Book of God and He Guards it from tampering by the PTB who controls science and so scientists who apply faulty methods for dating things
    No, the bible is not true and is definitely tampered with, and the bible is NOT the all inspired "guarded" book of god, and the processes used to date and map the genome are accurate and true.

    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    people are mostly concerned about their pay check so they go along playing by the rules ; )
    So, we are to discard all inquiry which does not align with the bible because it is all motivated by greed for money?

    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    oh have you figured out where the female and her twelve male companions came from yet ?
    Please enlighten us, but if you would not mind, could you possibly use another reference besides the bible?
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    i tell you the truth

    Scripture will be fulfilled to the very last verse and we will all see it

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    i tell you the truth

    Scripture will be fulfilled to the very last verse and we will all see it
    I don't think so. The elite who are promulgating and engineering their Armageddon will not be successful, and the false atrocities described in Revelations will not happen.

    Why would anyone want to see such things occur?

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    i tell you the truth

    Scripture will be fulfilled to the very last verse and we will all see it
    I don't think so. The elite who are promulgating and engineering their Armageddon will not be successful, and the false atrocities described in Revelations will not happen.

    Why would anyone want to see such things occur?
    i know so

    God is beyond time and know everything from the beginning til the end


    what we call atrocities are what God call rewards

    for what we have done

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