Alex Collier on Unicus Radio, Jan. 5, 2012

[charlesfrith]

Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.


Thanks for sending this. At least he admitted he was convicted.

I am not surprised at this latest outburst. He has nothing else to offer but lies. His "children's" book is unpublished and will not sell well even if is printed someday.
The word is spreading on the Net that Alex is really Ralph - a con man.

As for the specific legal issues raised in this interview:

Alex/Ralph tries to explain why he is a victim of the IRS
http://exotica-radio.com/articles/20...Submitted=true
he has tried to sell me this bull**** since 1991 when he was arrested
only recently was I able to locate the court records re. this case that show 4 specific felony counts against him
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/sta...#ixzz1klv9blj7
when I confronted him about this and asked him if he had proof he was actually framed he claimed they took his papers... (yeah, right).

This is what the IRS states re. 23C:

(30) An IRS Form 23C, Assessment Certificate — Summary Record of Assessments, is an invalid record of assessment for purposes of section 6203 and Treas. Reg. § 301.6203-1, the Form 23C must be personally signed by the Secretary of the Treasury for an assessment to be valid, the Service must provide a copy of the Form 23C to a taxpayer if requested before taking collection action, or similar arguments described as frivolous in Rev. Rul. 2007-21, 2007-1 C.B. 865.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2010-17_IRB/ar13.html

And here, they clearly refute the claim by some taxpayers that 23C is a magic bullet:

Frivolous tax returns; summary record of assessment. This ruling discusses and refutes the frivolous position taken by some taxpayers that before the IRS may collect overdue taxes, the IRS must provide taxpayers with a summary record of assessment made on a Form 23C, Assessment Certificate-Summary Record of Assessments, or on another particular form. These taxpayers claim that if a Form 23C is not provided, the assessment is invalid and the IRS may not collect any taxes due.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2007-14_IRB/ar15.html

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Victimless crime to begin with.

Alex (Ralph) worked for the IRS then switched teams - the IRS didn't like that.

The IRS are the good guys here? Are you for real? Who in the world (that has a heart (and soul)) sticks up for the IRS????

Oh yeah - government owned pawns do. Banksters do. And IRS people do.

Now if Alex killed someone, or hurt someone, or slandered someone (like he is receiving now) then - OK lets talk. But this is a load of BS.

If you believe this to "prove" Alex is a "con-man".... then you really are way off the mark.

Don't "con-men" usually take money for their deceptions? This is a hit piece - and I am sick of it.

You should also know by now that when people in the truth movement are targeted there is usually merit in what they bring to the table.

If you believe I am a sucker and have been conned for DONATING some cash to Alex - you really need to look at your own crap before telling me that.

Who the hell is Robert Stanley anyway? I never heard of him until December - when he got REAL EXPOSURE - THANKS TO HIS "FRIEND" Alex.

Robert Stanley is working for "them" - I feels it in my bones. Lets hope whatever stooge that brings up this information has the intelligence to check out Robert Stanley and his past....

Long live Alex and may his information keep coming...

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

never mind - misread.

sorry for the mistake.

Tolec is suspect city!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by charlesfrith (here)
Hello everybody. I've just received an email from author Robert Stanley with respect to this Tolec actor.

Posted by charlesfrith (here)
Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.

I moved the above two posts, which had been on separate threads, into this current thread, where this ongoing feud between Robert Stanley and Alex Collier was previously discussed.

We'd rather not have "attacks via email" from outsiders posted ... we might decide to delete these two posts as well. Conducting feuds by proxy is not usually a good way to proceed.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Lets compare:
Alex @1:51:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CvepLvMkZmU

former IRS Commissioner Sheldon Cohen (Probably Alex's boss at one time)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nX-03Sf1wDo

What am I missing here? WAKE UP!

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)
Victimless crime to begin with.

Alex (Ralph) worked for the IRS then switched teams - the IRS didn't like that.

The IRS are the good guys here? Are you for real? Who in the world (that has a heart (and soul)) sticks up for the IRS????

Oh yeah - government owned pawns do. Banksters do. And IRS people do.

Now if Alex killed someone, or hurt someone, or slandered someone (like he is receiving now) then - OK lets talk. But this is a load of BS.

If you believe this to "prove" Alex is a "con-man".... then you really are way off the mark.

Don't "con-men" usually take money for their deceptions? This is a hit piece - and I am sick of it.

You should also know by now that when people in the truth movement are targeted there is usually merit in what they bring to the table.

If you believe I am a sucker and have been conned for DONATING some cash to Alex - you really need to look at your own crap before telling me that.

Who the hell is Robert Stanley anyway? I never heard of him until December - when he got REAL EXPOSURE - THANKS TO HIS "FRIEND" Alex.

Robert Stanley is working for "them" - I feels it in my bones. Lets hope whatever stooge that brings up this information has the intelligence to check out Robert Stanley and his past....

Long live Alex and may his information keep coming...

Good Points spoken here.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Hey WF - well it's frustrating Alex is misrepresented a lot of the time now. also I hear people "quoting" things Alex has never said like he said he was a PaaTaal - someone said this in a thread recently.

It just bewilders me the amount of effort some people take in doing this. Also how people can be so damn horrible to Alex - it's like they haven't even listened to him and just make up their minds without hearing the message.

If I had ANY doubt on Alex I would be the 1st to tell everyone. I am that kind of person. The predictions (possibilities) was the only time I was about to speak up - until Alex addressed that very issue. so...

[astrid]

They really want him out of the way,
this is quite a vicious campaign.
Even more reason to support him in my book.

I'm really surprised that its not totally transparent to all so called "truthers"

Using IRS info to disparage one of our own???
whats wrong with this picture,
come on people.

Anyone doing this work properly is going to rub up against the system,
sorry but DUH???

And yes it's highly suspect that people are using this forum to continue this battle,
Alex has always had a lot of support here.

Good luck with trying to poison us here ,
most of us have our discernment hats nailed firmly to our heads.

[Flash]

Posted by charlesfrith (here)
Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.


Thanks for sending this. At least he admitted he was convicted.

I am not surprised at this latest outburst. He has nothing else to offer but lies. His "children's" book is unpublished and will not sell well even if is printed someday.
The word is spreading on the Net that Alex is really Ralph - a con man.

As for the specific legal issues raised in this interview:

Alex/Ralph tries to explain why he is a victim of the IRS
http://exotica-radio.com/articles/20...Submitted=true
he has tried to sell me this bull**** since 1991 when he was arrested
only recently was I able to locate the court records re. this case that show 4 specific felony counts against him
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/sta...#ixzz1klv9blj7
when I confronted him about this and asked him if he had proof he was actually framed he claimed they took his papers... (yeah, right).

This is what the IRS states re. 23C:

(30) An IRS Form 23C, Assessment Certificate — Summary Record of Assessments, is an invalid record of assessment for purposes of section 6203 and Treas. Reg. § 301.6203-1, the Form 23C must be personally signed by the Secretary of the Treasury for an assessment to be valid, the Service must provide a copy of the Form 23C to a taxpayer if requested before taking collection action, or similar arguments described as frivolous in Rev. Rul. 2007-21, 2007-1 C.B. 865.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2010-17_IRB/ar13.html

And here, they clearly refute the claim by some taxpayers that 23C is a magic bullet:

Frivolous tax returns; summary record of assessment. This ruling discusses and refutes the frivolous position taken by some taxpayers that before the IRS may collect overdue taxes, the IRS must provide taxpayers with a summary record of assessment made on a Form 23C, Assessment Certificate-Summary Record of Assessments, or on another particular form. These taxpayers claim that if a Form 23C is not provided, the assessment is invalid and the IRS may not collect any taxes due.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2007-14_IRB/ar15.html

you must never have been audited with the taxman to post such comments. Anybody that has been knows how IRS or their equivalent in other countries are, heartless. ruthless and putting you in the guilty seat right from the start, even if no wrong has been proven yet. Yes, they can wash you out litterally of everything you have. If you have nothing, you can still go to jail. To get out of it, you have to pay excellent accountants and lawyers and this is in the thousands and more, if you still can afford it after your bank account has been illegally frozen by the taxman.

So, anyone can have a mishappening with the IRS and be found guilty in lower court.

My question is:

What precisely has Mr Collier or Ralph done to Robert Stantley precisely to deserve such vehement disparaging and inflamated posts?

Don't name the IRS, it won't work and it is not standing up. What else has happened to Robert Stanley that was the work of Alex Collier. Breach of trust because he did not talk about his IRS court days? Breach of trust for what else? Because he work in the ETs field with a nom d'empprunt? Gosh, even me I work under Flash and would never give my real name on a forum such as this one for fear of losing some jobs. And I am not publicly claiming ETs contact which may as well equal complete loony now, and worst 20 years ago (Icke had the same bad crowd beginnings)

So, what has he done to Robert Stanley?

If no one can answer, dirtying someone without true basis is not only disgraceful, it is plainly dishonest and harmful. You should stop spreading somehting that you may not be able to back up Charlesfrits. If you back it up, then I wll retract these sentences and excuse myself.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Flash (here)
you must never have been audited with the taxman to post such comments.

My hunch is that you think you responding to something that charlesfrith wrote, but that actually most of that post to which you are responding is something that Robert Stanley wrote (and charlesfrith quoted, without clearly marking it as a quote.)

[ascendingstarseed]

Posted by astrid (here)
They really want him out of the way,
this is quite a vicious campaign.
Even more reason to support him in my book.

I'm really surprised that its not totally transparent to all so called "truthers"

Using IRS info to disparage one of our own???
whats wrong with this picture,
come on people.

Anyone doing this work properly is going to rub up against the system,
sorry but DUH???

And yes it's highly suspect that people are using this forum to continue this battle,
Alex has always had a lot of support here.

Good luck with trying to poison us here ,
most of us have our discernment hats nailed firmly to our heads.

I couldn't agree more Astrid, it's really disturbing to see so called "truthers" go on such a vicious attack toward someone who has contributed so much to a small but growing community of people who are doing nothing more than working on behalf of the best interests of humanity. Anytime I see a vicious attack launched against someone's credibility it's a clear indication they have done something right that the accuser feels threatened by..

We all have a past, most people have a closet bulging with crusty old skeletons, get over yourself! It doesn't make one hoot of a difference Alex was arrested, especially if it was IRS related...in that case he was a victim, which would give him more of a martyr status than bad guy. So whoever thought that was a good argument is delusional at best.

IMO Alex is going through a very difficult period and none of this is really any of our business unless we intend to help him....STO Service to Others is what PA is supposed to be about. Not this mean spirited, bully crap that smacks of right wing, lunatic fringe paranoia. This is the typical type of smear campaign that's been coming out of the right wing media and the willfully ignorant trolls that spew this kind of toxic hate where ever they go, that's right folks go ahead kick someone while they're down. Does that make you feel better about yourself.

We love you Alex!

[onawah]

That would be me who said that AC inferred that he was a Paa Taal.
He did not say, " I am a Paa Taal", but he was talking about the Paa Taal and then he used the word "we" referring to himself as one of them.
So it was kind of a subtle, back door declaration.
I am not going to go back and listen again to the interview to find the place in it where he said that, but if you are that interested, it should be easy enough to find.

I have listened to AC and read a lot of his work.
I like the guy, and I feel for him.
But I am keeping an open mind about what he has said, as I do with all info of that kind.
There's no way to know without proof whether what he has said is true or not,
but I don't feel that he is a fraud.
He seems integral to me, but that doesn't mean i don't have questions about some of the things he's said, and this forum is a place where we are free to ask questions.
Asking honest questions is not disrespecting someone, it's an important part of being a truth seeker.

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)
Hey WF - well it's frustrating Alex is misrepresented a lot of the time now. also I hear people "quoting" things Alex has never said like he said he was a PaaTaal - someone said this in a thread recently.

It just bewilders me the amount of effort some people take in doing this. Also how people can be so damn horrible to Alex - it's like they haven't even listened to him and just make up their minds without hearing the message.

If I had ANY doubt on Alex I would be the 1st to tell everyone. I am that kind of person. The predictions (possibilities) was the only time I was about to speak up - until Alex addressed that very issue. so...

[Flash]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
you must never have been audited with the taxman to post such comments.

My hunch is that you think you responding to something that charlesfrith wrote, but that actually most of that post to which you are responding is something that Robert Stanley wrote (and charlesfrith quoted, without clearly marking it as a quote.)

Yes and no Paul, I am responding to Charlesfrits as well since he reposted the accusations, I presumed he is supporting it.

[charlesfrith]

I can testify that Robert Stanley is a first class chap who stood by Alex for 20 years till he could no longer trust him. As for Alex I think the rape allegations in the links provided are not proof but they are not helpful to his case. Alex Collier is laughing in his latest interview. He's got a nice glass of Bourbon in his hand and is taking the piss. Don't believe me? Listen to it. He's barely containing his laughter.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Rape now? Back that up or just fade back to the ladyboy bars of Bangkok will you...

[Logan]

LOL wow... the messageboard drama is thick. SMH

[DreamsInDigital]

Charles,

Take some wood, build a bridge and get over it. And stop spreading the filth and lies you are spreading, you're not helping this situation. Alex is not a fraud (straight from the Horse's er...Moraney's mouth "Alex Collier is NOT a Fraud, there are just occasional glitches in his translation of the information") , he is not a rapist (those charges aren't even against him but someone with the same/similar name), he is another one of countless victims of the fraud that is rampant in the United States Government and the financial sectors like the IRS.

You really want to spend time attacking someone? How about attacking Michael Horn for all his misdeeds and the lies and crap he spreads constantly, including perpetuation of Billy Meier and his fraud and misrepresentation of his contact case? That would actually be productive and useful if you spent your time exposing those two. Leave Alex Collier alone.

Here, I think this should be enough wood for you.... I certainly know it's enough for me to use to knock some sense and reality/truth into someone.

[charlesfrith]

I've never seen any evidence for Alex Collier raping Michael Horn or even having the wood for him and further more I have no desire to attack anyone that is unconnected to this simulacra of a contactee.

But you're welcome to grow a pair and visit me any time son, and I'll teach you a lesson in using your own identity before I slap some shape into those pebbles of shame for ya.

Big kiss from me woody xxx

[apokalypse]

Rape? this stuff is old but for those who didn't follow Alex might consider new stories..it's all from Micheal Horn who went out attack Alex. http://theyfly.com/newsflash5/THE%20...ER_%20HOAX.htm

i have been hearing Michael Horn and Billy Meir names since my awakening last year but i'm not aware of their materials, i should spent time research on their materials...consider Alex is a fraud but alot of stuff resonate with me.

[DreamsInDigital]

Alex is not a fraud (straight from the Horse's er...Moraney's mouth "Alex Collier is NOT a Fraud, there are just occasional glitches in his translation of the information")