Michael Tsarion

[modwiz]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by crested-duck (here)
As far as you redezra- we've sparred before and I personally think you are still as ignorant as ever, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you should pray to that false god of yours for the power to admit you bought fully into lies and deciet, and forgive yourself, then give us all a break with this useless bulls**t you're preaching. As I said months earlier ,you are preaching to the wrong audience because we've educated ourselves and you need to go find the ignorant people that can not think for themselves. Let me be perfectly clear here: liars, decievers, and brainwashed ignoramous's totally piss me off and my spiritual discernment tells me you are all three in one entity.

i'm not speakin to you ; )

Although you hardly need to be defended, there is a point worth making here, IMO. I do not think you are a liar, deceiver or an ignoramus. (Careful parsing of words alert) Furthermore, I do not see you as a bullshyter either. BS, has to issue from the mouth of someone attempting to lie or deceive. I am probably tedious in restating some technical and theological differences with you, Red, but I will further reiterate that I find you a good sport with a good sense of humor, thick-skinned without losing subtlety and an excellent scholar of your material. I do not think you are in the wrong forum at all. You are our bible Christian guy and your ability to mix in with the rest of us demonstrates your being a part of the bigger whole that we are. I have met many a Jesus type 'guy' and you are unique. Your avatar is especially endearing as it is from one of my favorite movies, Dogma.

I am not trying to encourage you, you don't need any. I just want you to feel welcome. I should make a disclaimer here. I am an ordained interfaith minister. Two years investment of my time and spirit to get my education. As such, I am committed to being open minded about people's spiritual proclivities. Other members have not taken a vow to honor others' perspectives as I have and it is well within their right to speak their minds.

Rights and good manners are not always in harmony though. Secure adults can handle the outrageous slings and arrows.

[Mike]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by crested-duck (here)
As far as you redezra- we've sparred before and I personally think you are still as ignorant as ever, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you should pray to that false god of yours for the power to admit you bought fully into lies and deciet, and forgive yourself, then give us all a break with this useless bulls**t you're preaching. As I said months earlier ,you are preaching to the wrong audience because we've educated ourselves and you need to go find the ignorant people that can not think for themselves. Let me be perfectly clear here: liars, decievers, and brainwashed ignoramous's totally piss me off and my spiritual discernment tells me you are all three in one entity.

i'm not speakin to you ; )

Although you hardly need to be defended, there is a point worth making here, IMO. I do not think you are a liar, deceiver or an ignoramus. (Careful parsing of words alert) Furthermore, I do not see you as a bullshyter either. BS, has to issue from the mouth of someone attempting to lie or deceive. I am probably tedious in restating some technical and theological differences with you, Red, but I will further reiterate that I find you a good sport with a good sense of humor, thick-skinned without losing subtlety and an excellent scholar of your material. I do not think you are in the wrong forum at all. You are our bible Christian guy and your ability to mix in with the rest of us demonstrates your being a part of the bigger whole that we are. I have met many a Jesus type 'guy' and you are unique. Your avatar is especially endearing as it is from one of my favorite movies, Dogma.

I am not trying to encourage you, you don't need any. I just want you to feel welcome. I should make a disclaimer here. I am an ordained interfaith minister. Two years investment of my time and spirit to get my education. As such, I am committed to being open minded about people's spiritual proclivities. Other members have not taken a vow to honor others' perspectives as I have and it is well within their right to speak their minds.

Rights and good manners are not always in harmony though. Secure adults can handle the outrageous slings and arrows.

i'll 2nd this.

well said, wise wizard.

[observer]

I would really like to see how the members felt about the Tsarion video, void of all the Biblical debate.

The few Biblical references in the Tsarion video were allegorical in context.

This Tsarion video was very informative, but it was not about the Bible. Let's try to keep on topic.

There is a thread on this forum about the Bible. Why don't we try to contain this biblical rhetoric in that thread?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...5019-the-Bible

Posted by observer (here)
Click-on the 'quote>>forward' icon to view my comment in the Biblical Thread

[seko]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
If women today are kept down due to this ancient crime, what do we do about it?

the great crime was that women killed off all the "earthly" men so they (the power structure behind churches & other power structures) hide behind (now) a patriarchial front (which is false)....

this "crime" happened because (A SMALL SUB SET OF) women are quicker to "envy" and they envy men their strength (even though they have hteir own strengths) I'm only about an hour in right now, this was discussed a bit before the hour mark.

apparently all people are now hybrids & "men" as they historically were are gone due to this genocidal (tho sex based) attack..

then the nephalim abandoned the earth & women were stuck with out men for muscle & missing the nephalims technology.. so we repopulated.

& we are a slave race too apparently (or at least men are).


perhaps there is a genetic memory of this crime & thats why the roles are as they are (Tsarion says its a genetic memory, thats why women are treated somewhat like second class citizens)


I find it interesting, can't wait to see the final product.

I dont see women as second class citizens, in fact I know that women hwo choose a carreer over family make more money than men do & really accell in every way, I also don't get racism either so maybe I'm just wierd...

so I don't see how anything can be done about it, i guess we can keep feminizing men for reperations? haha

I see a very important point here Tegrat-Target and all of us would benefit if men learn to open their female side, understand it and use it.
So do women with their male side......balance!

Because clearly we cling to our side and don't understand the other which we all have.....but do we know that???

[RedeZra]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Although you hardly need to be defended, there is a point worth making here, IMO. I do not think you are a liar, deceiver or an ignoramus. (Careful parsing of words alert) Furthermore, I do not see you as a bullshyter either. BS, has to issue from the mouth of someone attempting to lie or deceive. I am probably tedious in restating some technical and theological differences with you, Red, but I will further reiterate that I find you a good sport with a good sense of humor, thick-skinned without losing subtlety and an excellent scholar of your material. I do not think you are in the wrong forum at all. You are our bible Christian guy and your ability to mix in with the rest of us demonstrates your being a part of the bigger whole that we are. I have met many a Jesus type 'guy' and you are unique. Your avatar is especially endearing as it is from one of my favorite movies, Dogma.

I am not trying to encourage you, you don't need any. I just want you to feel welcome. I should make a disclaimer here. I am an ordained interfaith minister. Two years investment of my time and spirit to get my education. As such, I am committed to being open minded about people's spiritual proclivities. Other members have not taken a vow to honor others' perspectives as I have and it is well within their right to speak their minds.

Rights and good manners are not always in harmony though. Secure adults can handle the outrageous slings and arrows.

tnx for the words Wiz ; )

and tnx to Chinaski for second time support of general decency

and to all Avalonians who don't applaud personal derogatory remarks


i am the buddy Jesus guy around here and Bible thumper

but i'm not the only one

as i saw one passin by last week


i seldom copy paste the whole lot when respondin to it

but this is such a beautiful well put post and defence

that i could not find a word to remove


Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

[gripreaper]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

So modwiz earned a seat closer to the front row in the throne room through his good works?

[RedeZra]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)
Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

So modwiz earned a seat closer to the front row in the throne room through his good works?

nope just for defendin buddy Jesus ; )

[crested-duck]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
tnx for the words Wiz ; )

and tnx to Chinaski for second time support of general decency

and to all Avalonians who don't applaud personal derogatory remarks


i am the buddy Jesus guy around here and Bible thumper

but i'm not the only one

as i saw one passin by last week


i seldom copy paste the whole lot when respondin to it

but this is such a beautiful well put post and defence

that i could not find a word to remove


Wiz i think you'd make a good advocate in Heaven ; )

You all need to read this post to understand! https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...+thinking+part Serious Critical Thinkink Part 2
I decided to create this thread because our thoughts,opinions, and what we hold as truths are constantly changeing/evolveing ! If you did not read original or need a refresher it can be found here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tical+thinking Now knowing that we've reckoned on these subjects and come to our very own conclusions on each and every one, now what do we do ??

I'm going to reitterate here and say"right,wrong,or indifferent, we have to, and do, make decisions every minute of every day"! The intention of most decisions is,and rightly should be, is to do the right thing at that moment. It never works out right 100% and someone somewhere will always find fault somehow or another,heck I say thing and do things I end up regretting later all the time.I've been around long enough in this reality to know that's just the way it is. Some people are shy and reserved, others are blatently honest like myself, and everybody is just a little different in their ways. Many things come into this factor, many different perspectives to look at here.

For example my latest loosing my cool with redezra over his answer for everything coming out of a bible. Was I rude in my reply?Yes! Could I have tried to communicate it in a gentler way? Yes! Did I upset people with that response? Well I know it upset him, and that was the point ! It was intentional, and it was my version of tough love. But why would I do that to him? Well you see I spent a lot of time and effort with studying religion and different bibles-then I did critical thinking and EVOLVED, and my thoughts and truths on that subject totally changed.

Now I see redezra as a man stuck and not able to evolve because of his indoctrinated beliefs, and I feel sorry for him and want to snap him out of his skewed perception at this point in his journey because I feel he's on the road to confusion and lies that will eventually be his demise.- So who am I, and what gives me the right to act this way?

My human name is Rob and I've been here almost 48 years now, I've made way more mistakes and learned lessons the hard way, than I can remember or care to discuss, my communication skills still leave a lot to be desired, and are misunderstood by many. I know the truth and fully understand a thing or two about a thing or two. And I will humbly and gladly admit there's no way I'll ever figure everythig out, as everything is moveing, changeing, and evolveing constantly. In the end I'm just a soul looking to connect with other souls and help when and where I can, and like everyone else here i seek unconditional love in all it's different shapes and forms.

Now as the weather is getting nice, and I'm a outside kind of soul, I'm sure that I'll be spending less time here at PA. I may dissapear for days or weeks at a time, but there is still a soul connection with PA for me at this time.

But remember that we are all evolveing individually at different rates of progress in our realitys, and our differences are what make life interestng, and maybe just maybe, Pie and others are leaving because they've evolved to the next step in their journeys. If that is in fact the truth then we sould be happy for them and be gratefull to have had the experiences we did with them while we had the chance. The odd and misunderstood seeds planted by many, will not be seen again by the planter, as sometimes the ground needs to evolve a little bit longer before it becomes the right time to pop up, grow and evolve into something better than expected.

[unicorny]

Well put Rob, I'll check out those other threads

[westhill]

You are your own solution. Michael Tsarion's six hour presentation "The Posthuman World," filmed in Melbourne Australia, November 2011.
Danke Michael.

http://www.unslaved.com
http://www.mtsar.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mx9PgRxcs_s

[sigma6]

Great 6 part series starting with these two YouTubes - a definitive, historical analysis, of the Egyptian, Hebraic, origins of the original Secret Societies to the Freemasons of today.

This is the reason why the world we live in is an aquarium of pure bullsh**.
It is specifically because of these people, and their covetous greed and secrecy,
the definition of psychopathy and satanic evil.

Take advantage (download if you can) of these Red Ice presentations, as
Henrik has a tendency to only share the first half of episodes for some reason...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uqNN5p6bcj4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bTGtBnPoQTg

I propose to make this a Michael Tsarion thread, if you have any complete Tsarion presentations, feel free to build your library here... His work is prolific enough to deserve it's own thread imo...

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Michael has put in countless hours researching some pretty important ideas. His work will help you wake up to the blatant symbolic manipulation all around. Pretending the stuff isn't there is a sure recipe for disaster. i think once you understand the manipulation you can begin to distance yourself from it's effects. Whether you are a conspiracy type of person or not,there is no denying the politics of control. I find his work to dovetail nicely with John Taylor Gatto's work on public education and it's true purpose ( mind control and the creation of people who unquestioningly do as they are told).

[Star Tsar]

This Red Ice Interview is an a important intro to your post Sigma6...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BMDw6cNxBy4

[westhill]

Here is his current series on Posthumanism. Six hours (12 if you watch twice which I did).
Recorded in Melbourne, Australia on November 19th, 2011.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7ZtJ_ld-meE

[Mulder]

This is a nice way for me to remember Michael. I've not listened to anything from him all year, so I'll have to start watching these videos. When I first "woke up" in 2007 I likes Michael a lot as he was easy to listin to (he doesn't scream down the microphone, etc).

[westhill]

Just listened to this. Back from 2007/08 but so relevant today.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HMP2jSjORiM

[Prodigal Son]

Loved this one!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8oEwWTrUFdk

[9eagle9]

Not long before 2005 I journaled exactly that, radiation has greatly contributed to our fall into our darkness . Won't go into unnecessary detail pretty much what MT said, but not sure if a whole lot of people know that radiation is used as a sort of energy, a dark magic energy as well, by certain factors in the circles of world control.

(Against us....of course.)

[sigma6]

Classic Michael Tsarion
2012 - The Future of Mankind

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KlERM0avVLg

Long but it really affected me on some level... left me with some kind of profound feeling
(don't worry, it's not about Ayn Rand (lol))

[jackovesk]

Jun 21, 2012

Micheal Tsarion explains the occult knowledge about Queen Elizabeth's coronation.

There's lots of Symbolism & Ritual in Royaltly, but where does it come from...? Thats the Question..!

- Micheal Tsarion

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LCnfQwTQvS8

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LCnfQ...2&feature=plcp

Enjoy...