Sex at Dawn, an Anthropological Review of Sex

[161803398]

Some bonds are not bonds they are attachments composed of pre-existing conditions. They are not true bonds of love but of neediness or co-dependency, low form emotions that are often confused by love .

ah, I wasn't referring to those bonds. But you are right, there are negative bonds that can form between people and negative attachments. I wasn't referring to those types of bonds.

[Rantaak]

Posted by Solstyse (here)
Some people find sex with consenting adults, unnatural. They look for other outlets.
Some people find sobriety unnatural. They like drugs.
Others find the whole world unnatural. They like killing.
It's just there nature right?
Just because it's our nature doesn't make it right.

Some people find freedom unnatural. They like to tell other people what's "right". On planet earth, we have masturbation police.

But more poignantly, sobriety is drugs. Consciousness is directly linked to the chemical phenomena undergone by the brain - with the higher self as the piloting guide and ultimate author. Natural (endogenous) drugs are natural. Unnatural (synthetic) drugs aren't, unless they metabolize into an endogenous compound.

Killing is an impulse driven by lower chakras - the advancement of spirituality allows us to overcome these baser desires.

Only in a world of duality do we believe in such nonsense as, "right and wrong." These are figments of the brain.

In a world of unity, everything is.

[write4change]

Posted by nearing (here)
I am posting this at write4change's request and she will fill you in on the background of it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gL9l1L_pzOE

I have just started using the reply with quote so I do not know if the embedded video shows up. It does not here. So this is responding to nearings post 85 for me.

Except for one year of the Soka Gaiki that took over Nichren Shoshoo Buddhism, I have never done institutionalized Buddhism. I have never had a guru either. I started studying in 1971. I am not going to cite a lot of texts, I am going to explain my take on Tantra and how it has evolved. I have no problem with any one disagreeing, wanting to add commentary etc. For the record there are 365 sects of Buddhism in the world that meet annually for the last 30 years trying to come up with a Buddhism in a nutshell to no avail. However, they do this in peace and a high tolerance for one another. The Soka Gakai does not participate and has about 13 million members world wide, claiming about a million in America.

Tantra appeared about 500 years after the Buddha died. Buddhism was already fading in India. The reason being was that the Buddha delegimatized the caste system. Indian society was already too entrenched and too comfortable with the caste system of Hinduism to seriously convert. They incorporated Buddhism for a while. Meanwhile Buddhism itself had become another institution with hierarchies and written rules and regulations, disputes over lineages, etc.

Tantra was essentially a grass roots movement of the people to find a third way. And people being people, they wanted an easy way. The Shamanic models in India had long been lost and replaced by gurus and institutions. In Terrence McKenna's personal interviews he tells how he started out seeking in India and praciticing yoga etc. to no avail. In his pursuits which he began after considerable experience with hallucinogens and LSD in this country, he became aware that there were no natural plant hallucinogens in Asia or India. Opium was more a depressent. Looking with this aside, it is even easier for me to see why the populace would eventually find out sex could pop you out of your body etc. Also as McKenna points out the nature of the East has always to go down and they have studied time in all its ramifications instead of energy. Their food problems were never based on fertility or energy but water. Both too much and too little. Thus, all life was seen through a cycle of time, birth, death, and reincarnation.

Realizing that sex produced a lot of energy and set the body vibrating like nothing else, they began to study how this energy functioned, how it could be increased, sustained, and utilized. The first thing to emerge was that the individual body was the temple of the individual soul and thus the body should be cared for and not deprived. Now the people who have the time and the ability to study, observe, and record are always the elite. In India, with its caste system the Brahmin on a whole are the only ones with all the where withall to do this. While there was already in place the concept of consorts and concubines--sex for purchase did not produce soul jumping orgasms. Brahmin wives had a lot on their plates and this was not big on their list of things to do and they were relatively equal.

The concept of consorts and sacred sex in religious festivals already existed and it was already recognized that every day sex with a spouse carried a lot of every day baggage. Being up all night with a sick kid and being chewed out by the Raj could leave your partner simply not in the mood much like today. But finding vavavoom in a one night stand religious or not was still a crap shoot. The answer was a spiritual consort with whom you had sex consistently with spiritual goals in a pleasure room that was open to the sky and isolated from the mundane. Thus, the goal became not orgasm but energy used to get out of the body or kept in the body for energy for creative inspiration in various art forms etc. Thus, old yoga practices were now used to have sex in difficult positions which increased muscle contractions everywhere and multiplied the power of ultimate orgasm if chosen. And techniques were worked out to have orgasms and not ejaculate and using multiple orgasms to build more energy. Going thru the charkas until the whole body in all ways is an erongenous zone. Finally, you get to the brain orgasm and maybe sex on the astral plane. This kind of sex is an art form and like any kind of art with the physical body like ballet and gymnastics takes lots of practice and understanding who you are.

Like a hallucogen, brain orgasm explodes your concepts of reality on this plane. As time passed, these studies added more ritualization about exactly how this could be accomplished with 64 positions, 64 art forms of music, painting, poetry, etc. Preparation of time and space. Preparation of the body etc. But the good news was----periodically it would be reported that some one got there instantly and for no known reason other than love. India was big on sex and marriage and duty and contracts like every one else. But love was rare and inexplicable and inspite of many wives, consorts, and concubines a miracle--deserving of the Taj Mahal. A love that appeared whole, complete, and eternal.

Tantra looks at and acknowledges all the ranges of sex. Like many other things of desire---many are called but few will do the work necessary to ascend the ladder of sex. All of us hope for the miracle.
It is neither bad nor good. It just is. All of India, her sacred places and temples reflect a culture that celebrated the most beautiful aspect of being human--the power of the heart. They were willing to try many things to jump start their hearts. All of that was really destroyed by the West. Look at these pictures and see how you react.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by write4change (here)
It is my understanding from reading much research that while cromagnon man and neanderthals existed together for about 10,000 years, there is no neanderthal DNA contained in homo sapiens today.

I have read this so much that it is now an assumption. In the wake of all the new anthropology we are discoverying, if someone knows differently I wish they would post with a link.

Hi W4C there's a little information here. It refers to the Neanderthals as having become 'extinct through absorption'. I would argue that any species that produces children and passes on its genes has not died out, and that absorption into a dominant culture is a survival mechanism rather than an admission of defeat, but I guess that's just semantics.

I once read a long time ago a publication suggesting red hair originated in neanderthal DNA, which I think was more prejudice against redheads than anything else. The genes which encode for red hair in humans are different than those which encoded for it in Neanderthals (who are known to have been predominantly red-headed), so the mechanism by which humans acquired red hair can't have come from neanderthals, but it does show that the possibility of cro-magnon–neanderthal interbreeding has enjoyed higher levels of acceptability at different times.

[write4change]

Seikou-Kishi,

I have not read your link but I will. There are a couple of links about Neanderthals above and the lastest research on it. I like you would not consider absorption a failure. What I have read and seen on some of these major documentaries---the one I remember doing the gnome project as a geological search. How did and when did humans march out to Africa and across the world etc.

What was interesting to me was their absolute certainty that neither blue eyes nor white skinned people existed ever until 10,000 years ago and that they first recording and the descendants of those people are from the Caucasion mountain area. Then the Chinese discovered a whole village of red haired blue eyed people outside Tibet and kind of put a kaboosh to more exploration. The explanation of white people becoming white to live in the cold never did impress me much. All of this constantly shows me how much we don't know. How much we don't like to change what we think we know. And how much a lot of stuff has been deliberately repressed.

In my humble opinion blue eyes not appearing til then thousand years ago and they definitely have no evolutionary advantage in seeing. In fact, they are subject to a lot more diseases etc than brown eyes--makes me for me another solid piece of evidence of ET contact with humans. After Starman came out in the early 80s, it was said many women secretly wish to have sex with an ET. For me it is no secret, I would be like sign me up. LOL My tantric experience tells me it is one way to really "know" another. The biblical term she knew no man etc. indicates this thinking has been around a long time. Probably one of the reasons insecure men want virgins---what you don't know for sure you don't miss.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
I think the PTB started the whole free love thing in the 60s..

So someone recently said, here on this forum I think, that Gloria Steinem was paid by the CIA to do the work she did, that she mentions this in one of her books.
If that is true it could potentially point to our beloved government forcing a social agenda, where women must work, and hence pay more taxes, and hence loose time and power to the economic system, and hence their children become greater wards of the state programming. Most women now do not work because the want to, but because financially the must. No choice.

[Arrowwind]

[QUOTE=write4change;452130]

Posted by nearing (here)
I am posting this at write4change's request and she will fill you in on the background of it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gL9l1L_pzOE

The real fact of the matter, according to my understanding, is that Tantra in India was reserved for well do to men who could afford concubines and those concubines did not get to have marriage also.

Women were not permitted any sexual activity outside of marriage. God forbid if you were or even still are seen holding hands with a man in traditional India. before marriage. You could loose your eligibility to marry and hence survive. Remember, this is the land of bride buring.

I suspect that those tantric materials that discuss women in sex were based on sex slaves, not natural, healthy and emotionally balanced women with free choice.

[Kimberley]

I love this thread so bumping it.... I have more to add although I have not had time to add it... I played the audio of the video in the original post of this thread on my internet show today. It was a great show and I had a 35 year old male call in who had read the Sex Before Dawn book and was suggesting the book to all his friends...and he was very savey and aware about this topic.

Much love!

[minkton]

[QUOTE=Arrowwind;452472][QUOTE=write4change;452130]

Posted by nearing (here)


I suspect that those tantric materials that discuss women in sex were based on sex slaves, not natural, healthy and emotionally balanced women with free choice.

Horribly true. young women have been endlessly exploited sexually as a 'yin tonic'.. ie their abundant fertile energy has been drawn from them to boost older men. Euuuurgggh.

[HORIZONS]

Posted by write4change (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
I am posting this at write4change's request and she will fill you in on the background of it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gL9l1L_pzOE

I have just started using the reply with quote so I do not know if the embedded video shows up. It does not here. So this is responding to nearings post 85 for me.

Except for one year of the Soka Gaiki that took over Nichren Shoshoo Buddhism, I have never done institutionalized Buddhism. I have never had a guru either. I started studying in 1971. I am not going to cite a lot of texts, I am going to explain my take on Tantra and how it has evolved. I have no problem with any one disagreeing, wanting to add commentary etc. For the record there are 365 sects of Buddhism in the world that meet annually for the last 30 years trying to come up with a Buddhism in a nutshell to no avail. However, they do this in peace and a high tolerance for one another. The Soka Gakai does not participate and has about 13 million members world wide, claiming about a million in America.

Tantra appeared about 500 years after the Buddha died. Buddhism was already fading in India. The reason being was that the Buddha delegimatized the caste system. Indian society was already too entrenched and too comfortable with the caste system of Hinduism to seriously convert. They incorporated Buddhism for a while. Meanwhile Buddhism itself had become another institution with hierarchies and written rules and regulations, disputes over lineages, etc.

Tantra was essentially a grass roots movement of the people to find a third way. And people being people, they wanted an easy way. The Shamanic models in India had long been lost and replaced by gurus and institutions. In Terrence McKenna's personal interviews he tells how he started out seeking in India and praciticing yoga etc. to no avail. In his pursuits which he began after considerable experience with hallucinogens and LSD in this country, he became aware that there were no natural plant hallucinogens in Asia or India. Opium was more a depressent. Looking with this aside, it is even easier for me to see why the populace would eventually find out sex could pop you out of your body etc. Also as McKenna points out the nature of the East has always to go down and they have studied time in all its ramifications instead of energy. Their food problems were never based on fertility or energy but water. Both too much and too little. Thus, all life was seen through a cycle of time, birth, death, and reincarnation.

Realizing that sex produced a lot of energy and set the body vibrating like nothing else, they began to study how this energy functioned, how it could be increased, sustained, and utilized. The first thing to emerge was that the individual body was the temple of the individual soul and thus the body should be cared for and not deprived. Now the people who have the time and the ability to study, observe, and record are always the elite. In India, with its caste system the Brahmin on a whole are the only ones with all the where withall to do this. While there was already in place the concept of consorts and concubines--sex for purchase did not produce soul jumping orgasms. Brahmin wives had a lot on their plates and this was not big on their list of things to do and they were relatively equal.

The concept of consorts and sacred sex in religious festivals already existed and it was already recognized that every day sex with a spouse carried a lot of every day baggage. Being up all night with a sick kid and being chewed out by the Raj could leave your partner simply not in the mood much like today. But finding vavavoom in a one night stand religious or not was still a crap shoot. The answer was a spiritual consort with whom you had sex consistently with spiritual goals in a pleasure room that was open to the sky and isolated from the mundane. Thus, the goal became not orgasm but energy used to get out of the body or kept in the body for energy for creative inspiration in various art forms etc. Thus, old yoga practices were now used to have sex in difficult positions which increased muscle contractions everywhere and multiplied the power of ultimate orgasm if chosen. And techniques were worked out to have orgasms and not ejaculate and using multiple orgasms to build more energy. Going thru the charkas until the whole body in all ways is an erongenous zone. Finally, you get to the brain orgasm and maybe sex on the astral plane. This kind of sex is an art form and like any kind of art with the physical body like ballet and gymnastics takes lots of practice and understanding who you are.

Like a hallucogen, brain orgasm explodes your concepts of reality on this plane. As time passed, these studies added more ritualization about exactly how this could be accomplished with 64 positions, 64 art forms of music, painting, poetry, etc. Preparation of time and space. Preparation of the body etc. But the good news was----periodically it would be reported that some one got there instantly and for no known reason other than love. India was big on sex and marriage and duty and contracts like every one else. But love was rare and inexplicable and inspite of many wives, consorts, and concubines a miracle--deserving of the Taj Mahal. A love that appeared whole, complete, and eternal.

Tantra looks at and acknowledges all the ranges of sex. Like many other things of desire---many are called but few will do the work necessary to ascend the ladder of sex. All of us hope for the miracle.
It is neither bad nor good. It just is. All of India, her sacred places and temples reflect a culture that celebrated the most beautiful aspect of being human--the power of the heart. They were willing to try many things to jump start their hearts. All of that was really destroyed by the West. Look at these pictures and see how you react.

This interview that I posted on my thread on Tantric sex by Margot Anand fits into this discussion here on Tantra (which is greatly misunderstood). http://webtalkradio.net/Shows/SexAnd.../sah030512.mp3

[Kimberley]

This interview that I posted on my thread on Tantric sex by Margot Anand fits into this discussion here on Tantra (which is greatly misunderstood). http://webtalkradio.net/Shows/SexAnd.../sah030512.mp3

I am looking forward to looking at this!! Thank you Horizon!!! and ALL!!! Much love!!

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by write4change (here)
Seikou-Kishi,

I have not read your link but I will. There are a couple of links about Neanderthals above and the lastest research on it. I like you would not consider absorption a failure. What I have read and seen on some of these major documentaries---the one I remember doing the gnome project as a geological search. How did and when did humans march out to Africa and across the world etc.

What was interesting to me was their absolute certainty that neither blue eyes nor white skinned people existed ever until 10,000 years ago and that they first recording and the descendants of those people are from the Caucasion mountain area. Then the Chinese discovered a whole village of red haired blue eyed people outside Tibet and kind of put a kaboosh to more exploration. The explanation of white people becoming white to live in the cold never did impress me much. All of this constantly shows me how much we don't know. How much we don't like to change what we think we know. And how much a lot of stuff has been deliberately repressed.

In my humble opinion blue eyes not appearing til then thousand years ago and they definitely have no evolutionary advantage in seeing. In fact, they are subject to a lot more diseases etc than brown eyes--makes me for me another solid piece of evidence of ET contact with humans. After Starman came out in the early 80s, it was said many women secretly wish to have sex with an ET. For me it is no secret, I would be like sign me up. LOL My tantric experience tells me it is one way to really "know" another. The biblical term she knew no man etc. indicates this thinking has been around a long time. Probably one of the reasons insecure men want virgins---what you don't know for sure you don't miss.

While its true that low-melanin eyes (predominantly blue, grey and my green) are more prone to certain diseases than others, it's also the case that the high-melanin brown eyes are also more prone to other diseases to which low-melanin eyes are not prone – cataracts being a prominent example.

[Solstyse]

Posted by Rantaak (here)

Posted by Solstyse (here)
Some people find sex with consenting adults, unnatural. They look for other outlets.
Some people find sobriety unnatural. They like drugs.
Others find the whole world unnatural. They like killing.
It's just there nature right?
Just because it's our nature doesn't make it right.

Some people find freedom unnatural. They like to tell other people what's "right". On planet earth, we have masturbation police.

But more poignantly, sobriety is drugs. Consciousness is directly linked to the chemical phenomena undergone by the brain - with the higher self as the piloting guide and ultimate author. Natural (endogenous) drugs are natural. Unnatural (synthetic) drugs aren't, unless they metabolize into an endogenous compound.

Killing is an impulse driven by lower chakras - the advancement of spirituality allows us to overcome these baser desires.

Only in a world of duality do we believe in such nonsense as, "right and wrong." These are figments of the brain.

In a world of unity, everything is.

You are making things way more complicated then they need to be.
There is universal right and wrong. And accountability for ones actions is paramount.

You live in this world of duality if you don't like it then ascend already

And as far as me I refuse to be unified with a serial rapist or murder or well I can't get too deep into it, people get there feelings hurt

[write4change]

Tuesday and Thursday are for me doctor days. When I got home and read this thread I was very disappointed and I went to bed and fell asleep listening to the above radio program.

When I got up, I found the nicest PM from someone I had never run into before. And I was revived. It put me back in touch with the heart congruence feeling.

I listen to Graham Hancock a lot because not only to I admire his work. I love the way he handles himself. The work is everything. Understanding it is his underlying goal for every one. I have read and own all his books. I love to listen to his voice which soothes and strengths me. Recently, I have added Gregg Braedin. I have sent for his books and I have listen to all his lectures available on youtube. His work bridges for me --- mine and Hancock's With them I see a total picture. I think I am here to learn how to share those stories. And sharing is not easy, I have read some really negative stuff about both these men that floors me. So I realize, what that is all about and you have to keep forcused on the work.

Because many people, keep thinking this is about sex rather than seeking, I am going to retell Gregg's story that has sustained and soothed me lately:

There were two twin girls that were born 7 weeks premature. Following all the medical protocols, the mother and two sisters were immediately separated from one another. Both girls placed in separate incubators in separate rooms. These three hearts so bound by the beating of one another now hear and feel--nothing but emptiness. The weakest twein immediately begins to die. The neonatal nurse driven by some need she does not quite understand brings the dying twin to her sister and places her beside her in the incubator. Immediately, the stronger girl places her entire arm across the shoulders of her sister and her vital signs stabilize. Gregg puts up the picture and there is not a dry eye in the audience. When he explains heart congruence theory, we understanding profoundly what he is talking about because we have just felt it. When he tells and shows us both girls as teenagers well, strong, and happy. We already knew the power of the heart to heal.

The heart congruence theory is based on relatively scientifc evidence that are facts. Facts, that most of the entire planet is unaware of. Facts that were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt on 911. The earth magnetic field pulses at this slow megahertz rate in what is exactly like the web around the earth. It interconnects among all things what we are calling dark energy which we used to just call space. There is no emptiness between anything. The human heart gives off exactly the same electro magnetic pulse as the earth. When the people of the planet are focused on a big thing like international soccer event or Princess Diana's death. There are huge spikes in this resonance. In other words, there is a disturbance in the force to quote Yoda. The University of Princeton has placed 42 of these boxes containing receptors around the world that all report back continuously to the main frame master computer which instantly complies and charts them. 15 minutes after the first plane hit 911, the spike in the electro magnetic field of the entire planet recorded the most enormous spike ever. Later looking back, then can see an escalation starting September 10.

This proof that the entire web of the planet could be effected by the major heart felt reaction of the people of the planet started a lot of research. Gregg goes into a lot of detail about all this on his three hour presentation from his book the Divine Matrix. What is important is that the studies showed how isolated populations of people who were then connected could change that field. From those studies came the question of how many people did it take to feel peace for peace to happen. And there came an exact formula.

It takes the square root of 1% of the population for that to happen. He is addressing an audience of 700 and he says only seven more of these rooms and we could have peace in the world. There is a Jewish midrash story that says as long as 36 people in the world freely choose to live a pure and godly life the world will go on. The minute the number is less than 36, the world dies. Oh, and these people must remain unknown to the world and unknown to each other.

We have had a discussion about banning and deleting the unwanted and unneeded. In this small site, if just 20 people at all times while on the site committed to love and understanding and peace--we would have it. Think about that as I do every time you click on Today's Posts.

Namaste.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by write4change (here)
Tuesday and Thursday are for me doctor days. When I got home and read this thread I was very disappointed and I went to bed and fell asleep listening to the above radio program.

When I got up, I found the nicest PM from someone I had never run into before. And I was revived. It put me back in touch with the heart congruence feeling.

I listen to Graham Hancock a lot because not only to I admire his work. I love the way he handles himself. The work is everything. Understanding it is his underlying goal for every one. I have read and own all his books. I love to listen to his voice which soothes and strengths me. Recently, I have added Gregg Braedin. I have sent for his books and I have listen to all his lectures available on youtube. His work bridges for me --- mine and Hancock's With them I see a total picture. I think I am here to learn how to share those stories. And sharing is not easy, I have read some really negative stuff about both these men that floors me. So I realize, what that is all about and you have to keep forcused on the work.

Because many people, keep thinking this is about sex rather than seeking, I am going to retell Gregg's story that has sustained and soothed me lately:

There were two twin girls that were born 7 weeks premature. Following all the medical protocols, the mother and two sisters were immediately separated from one another. Both girls placed in separate incubators in separate rooms. These three hearts so bound by the beating of one another now hear and feel--nothing but emptiness. The weakest twein immediately begins to die. The neonatal nurse driven by some need she does not quite understand brings the dying twin to her sister and places her beside her in the incubator. Immediately, the stronger girl places her entire arm across the shoulders of her sister and her vital signs stabilize. Gregg puts up the picture and there is not a dry eye in the audience. When he explains heart congruence theory, we understanding profoundly what he is talking about because we have just felt it. When he tells and shows us both girls as teenagers well, strong, and happy. We already knew the power of the heart to heal.

The heart congruence theory is based on relatively scientifc evidence that are facts. Facts, that most of the entire planet is unaware of. Facts that were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt on 911. The earth magnetic field pulses at this slow megahertz rate in what is exactly like the web around the earth. It interconnects among all things what we are calling dark energy which we used to just call space. There is no emptiness between anything. The human heart gives off exactly the same electro magnetic pulse as the earth. When the people of the planet are focused on a big thing like international soccer event or Princess Diana's death. There are huge spikes in this resonance. In other words, there is a disturbance in the force to quote Yoda. The University of Princeton has placed 42 of these boxes containing receptors around the world that all report back continuously to the main frame master computer which instantly complies and charts them. 15 minutes after the first plane hit 911, the spike in the electro magnetic field of the entire planet recorded the most enormous spike ever. Later looking back, then can see an escalation starting September 10.

This proof that the entire web of the planet could be effected by the major heart felt reaction of the people of the planet started a lot of research. Gregg goes into a lot of detail about all this on his three hour presentation from his book the Divine Matrix. What is important is that the studies showed how isolated populations of people who were then connected could change that field. From those studies came the question of how many people did it take to feel peace for peace to happen. And there came an exact formula.

It takes the square root of 1% of the population for that to happen. He is addressing an audience of 700 and he says only seven more of these rooms and we could have peace in the world. There is a Jewish midrash story that says as long as 36 people in the world freely choose to live a pure and godly life the world will go on. The minute the number is less than 36, the world dies. Oh, and these people must remain unknown to the world and unknown to each other.

We have had a discussion about banning and deleting the unwanted and unneeded. In this small site, if just 20 people at all times while on the site committed to love and understanding and peace--we would have it. Think about that as I do every time you click on Today's Posts.

Namaste.

I left this thread because I didn't feel I had anything useful to add to perspectives so often polarised to the point that there's simply too much needing to be communicated to even begin to create a useful platform.

Then you go and write something this shiningly beautiful and so infused with intention and energy that I can feel it here, all these worlds away, and I'm reminded of the infinite ways that connection can be exquisite and perfect in a moment.

Thankyou.

[ghostrider]

eve wanted the forbidden fruit, because she wasn't supposed to have it, human nature you want what you can't have. the difference- acting upon it or not acting upon it, cause and affect.. the choice is up to the individual its called freedom. to be or not to be, to be faithful or not, one should find a partner that views this in the same light and everyone's feeling stay in tact. easy , we are faithful or not just agree up front before the partnership goes to another level. I personally feel cheating is the lowest blow one can do to another, if you want to windowshop get out of the relationship first, then you keep your dignity.

[unicorny]

Posted by write4change (here)
Tuesday and Thursday are for me doctor days. When I got home and read this thread I was very disappointed and I went to bed and fell asleep listening to the above radio program.

When I got up, I found the nicest PM from someone I had never run into before. And I was revived. It put me back in touch with the heart congruence feeling.

I listen to Graham Hancock a lot because not only to I admire his work. I love the way he handles himself. The work is everything. Understanding it is his underlying goal for every one. I have read and own all his books. I love to listen to his voice which soothes and strengths me. Recently, I have added Gregg Braedin. I have sent for his books and I have listen to all his lectures available on youtube. His work bridges for me --- mine and Hancock's With them I see a total picture. I think I am here to learn how to share those stories. And sharing is not easy, I have read some really negative stuff about both these men that floors me. So I realize, what that is all about and you have to keep forcused on the work.

Because many people, keep thinking this is about sex rather than seeking, I am going to retell Gregg's story that has sustained and soothed me lately:

There were two twin girls that were born 7 weeks premature. Following all the medical protocols, the mother and two sisters were immediately separated from one another. Both girls placed in separate incubators in separate rooms. These three hearts so bound by the beating of one another now hear and feel--nothing but emptiness. The weakest twein immediately begins to die. The neonatal nurse driven by some need she does not quite understand brings the dying twin to her sister and places her beside her in the incubator. Immediately, the stronger girl places her entire arm across the shoulders of her sister and her vital signs stabilize. Gregg puts up the picture and there is not a dry eye in the audience. When he explains heart congruence theory, we understanding profoundly what he is talking about because we have just felt it. When he tells and shows us both girls as teenagers well, strong, and happy. We already knew the power of the heart to heal.

The heart congruence theory is based on relatively scientifc evidence that are facts. Facts, that most of the entire planet is unaware of. Facts that were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt on 911. The earth magnetic field pulses at this slow megahertz rate in what is exactly like the web around the earth. It interconnects among all things what we are calling dark energy which we used to just call space. There is no emptiness between anything. The human heart gives off exactly the same electro magnetic pulse as the earth. When the people of the planet are focused on a big thing like international soccer event or Princess Diana's death. There are huge spikes in this resonance. In other words, there is a disturbance in the force to quote Yoda. The University of Princeton has placed 42 of these boxes containing receptors around the world that all report back continuously to the main frame master computer which instantly complies and charts them. 15 minutes after the first plane hit 911, the spike in the electro magnetic field of the entire planet recorded the most enormous spike ever. Later looking back, then can see an escalation starting September 10.

This proof that the entire web of the planet could be effected by the major heart felt reaction of the people of the planet started a lot of research. Gregg goes into a lot of detail about all this on his three hour presentation from his book the Divine Matrix. What is important is that the studies showed how isolated populations of people who were then connected could change that field. From those studies came the question of how many people did it take to feel peace for peace to happen. And there came an exact formula.

It takes the square root of 1% of the population for that to happen. He is addressing an audience of 700 and he says only seven more of these rooms and we could have peace in the world. There is a Jewish midrash story that says as long as 36 people in the world freely choose to live a pure and godly life the world will go on. The minute the number is less than 36, the world dies. Oh, and these people must remain unknown to the world and unknown to each other.

We have had a discussion about banning and deleting the unwanted and unneeded. In this small site, if just 20 people at all times while on the site committed to love and understanding and peace--we would have it. Think about that as I do every time you click on Today's Posts.

Namaste.

a beautiful post thanks for sharing the story

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Loved the presentation, well said with humor as it should be, my girlfriend and i watched it together, she told me to go get her some bags of coal ( i do not believe it is for the barbeque since we have no garden or balcony) quite refreshing to see this presentation. We ( the two on the sofa ) talked a lot about this actually since we both have our pasts and agreed to agree on THIS "i am not yours and you are not mine, i am me with you and you are you with me, as long as this works were good, if not, split". Lookie is okay, touchie please discuss or dont even bother telling me please

Listening and watching the presentation made me think of Nancy Friday... Forbidden Fruits ( Verboden Vruchten), a great book about womens fantasies, which i stole from my mum when i was about 12, learned a whole lot from it( fantasies, everybody has them), it also made me look like a Sasquatch at that tender age.

As you have obviously guessed i am a guy and as far as i am aware of in a monogamous relationship at the moment( the couch nods back at me( typing out loud here) so were cool here, nods cool, shakes worrysome, at least a bit)

Mi Stima bo everybody!!

( i love you in Papiamentu)

The anwser should be

Mi tambe

( right back atcha)

Interesting to add by the way is that, we are in a mixed race relationship, she's black, i am as white as snow (really, as snow), we had our share of bull**** comments on this, very racist crap to deal with, on top of this she is a catholic and i am a complete heiden which might also should or could for some serious trouble but it doesnt, never did, never will, funny how people can find eachother isnt it. We both came to the conclusion that love is wunderfull, majestic, blind, colorblind accentdeaf, retarded, has one leg and doesnt give a sh@t as long as it feels good. This knowledge helps a lot.

[Kimberley]

I ordered this book as recommended in this thread...
Thought others might enjoy this interview!

The Ethical Slut 2nd Edition (Pt 1): An Interview with Dossie Easton wow s l u t is a "bad" word on this forum hahha

this is part 1 or 10 parts

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QZQAHvn7wZY

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
wow s l u t is a "bad" word on this forum hahha

Fixed .

(It's still a bad word; I just know ways to trick the cuss word censor.)