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    Sean Stone, is the son of director Oliver Stone (Wall Street and Platoon).
    A director and documentary maker among other things, he seems to have easy access to wander into illuminati circles, to witness lifestyles and some satanic rituals and to report back to us what he has learned. And he manages to stay alive. He reveals in this interview with Alex Jones that he is going back for more - to prepare for a documentary that he says he will be launching over the next 12 months.

    This is the first I have heard of this guy, he seems pretty researched into the area. And also he reveals that he has another agenda, and that is to help broker a peaceful outcome between Iran and the US. And he wants to see Obama and his administration brought down. Jones presses him on a few questions, including KONY, Jolie and his connections with officials in the Iranian government.

    Like to know what you think about Sean and what more you know .. is he an independent illuminator? Or could he be working for a section of the illuminati to help soften their case as they open to let us all look in? Like to hear your thoughts.

    Thanks, Zebra





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    Marshall law,; I agree everything has been discussed in the interview. Obama assessment? No. Every American president could be charged with crimes against humanity, including the first president, George Washington, called by the Iroquois as the “Town Destroyer.” Washington was a persistent that was the instigator of the American-Indian wars, insisting on moving American Indians Westward, and putting many tribes in dreadful circumstances. This news interview makes me think. I am interested to know more and understand what American presidents have to do in order to sacrifice their sincere principles before they become the presidents and run the show? I am interested to hear a comparative analysis on all of them, not only Obama, although I respect the point. Is Shawn saying that no American president can be in charge of this country if he/she is not the member of the occult group? This is an intriguing statement, but I would like to see a more critical comparison….The judgment based on the principle is a very important rule. If almost all presidents are similar to behaviors that Obama exhibits, are you going to only critically react to Obama, or are you going to do a thorough investigation that has a Historical relevancy for the whole generations of the USA population?
    Here are some sites you can learn more about the past the American Holocaust Issue:
    Ward Churchill, see 2007 lecture related to the problem of the “American Holocaust”: http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/rb...l-lecture.html
    Peter Sterba, The Three Challenges to Western Ethics, see the link: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Challeng.../dp/0195124766

    (It is amazing how the Google tool is problematic. In the past, a few years before, I would search for P. Sterba, and find all of his scholarship without any problem, this time it took me to another person, and irrelevant connections. Why? Here is one more connection about his work. http://philpapers.org/s/James%20P.%20Sterba

    One of my favorie historical speachees, "Chief Seattle Reply to US Government"
    http://www.childrenoftheearth.org/chief_seattle.htm


    The sssue still matters:

    Separation of the Lakota from the USA

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/nati...ta-indepen.txt
    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4214
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0JIgVHypQ

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    You make some great points ivarary. Thanks for hopping on here.

    I have this bigger question also about the .. for now I will call it for want of a better term: ´the complicite´of presidents, present and past - particularly from the depression era let´s say. And how they arrived into office, is probably more my question. What were their connections, obviously? Campaign support bodies, etc etc.,

    However, the Obama case is fascinating - mainly because there has been a huge build up of evidence coming forward - that defies belief, it is so outrageous. From the birth certificate debacle to the allegations of multiple identities, social security numbers attached to his person, and to one that fascinates me the most, his alleged background with black operations in ´jumprooms to Mars´and Project Pegasus.

    I also want to understand more about how Sean Oliver has formed himself through all of this - and with whom he is he connected.

    Huge thanks for these links that you post. I will take up with them and read on.

    Best wishes, Zebra

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    Marshall law,; I agree everything has been discussed in the interview. Obama assessment? No. Every American president could be charged with crimes against humanity, including the first president, George Washington, called by the Iroquois as the “Town Destroyer.” Washington was a persistent that was the instigator of the American-Indian wars, insisting on moving American Indians Westward, and putting many tribes in dreadful circumstances. This news interview makes me think. I am interested to know more and understand what American presidents have to do in order to sacrifice their sincere principles before they become the presidents and run the show? I am interested to hear a comparative analysis on all of them, not only Obama, although I respect the point. Is Shawn saying that no American president can be in charge of this country if he/she is not the member of the occult group? This is an intriguing statement, but I would like to see a more critical comparison….The judgment based on the principle is a very important rule. If almost all presidents are similar to behaviors that Obama exhibits, are you going to only critically react to Obama, or are you going to do a thorough investigation that has a Historical relevancy for the whole generations of the USA population?
    Here are some sites you can learn more about the past the American Holocaust Issue:
    Ward Churchill, see 2007 lecture related to the problem of the “American Holocaust”: http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/rb...l-lecture.html
    Peter Sterba, The Three Challenges to Western Ethics, see the link: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Challeng.../dp/0195124766

    (It is amazing how the Google tool is problematic. In the past, a few years before, I would search for P. Sterba, and find all of his scholarship without any problem, this time it took me to another person, and irrelevant connections. Why? Here is one more connection about his work. http://philpapers.org/s/James%20P.%20Sterba

    One of my favorie historical speachees, "Chief Seattle Reply to US Government"
    http://www.childrenoftheearth.org/chief_seattle.htm


    The sssue still matters:

    Separation of the Lakota from the USA

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/nati...ta-indepen.txt
    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4214
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0JIgVHypQ

    (Do you hear winds from the past hunting us....? )
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    (Excellent Interview) Thanks Zebra - Much appreciated...

    Jack

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    Ivaray, I agree that every US President could be charged with crimes against humanity.
    The about turn of Obama after becoming president is worrying though. My sister reckons that he has been cloned!
    Sandie
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    http://www.barackobama.ir/en/news/19...her-activities

    More insight by Sean Stone into the illuminati where it spreads into Hollywood, how it is run from the UK and joins hands with the UN - a conversation that took place in Iran

    An interesting transcript, I just came across. I think it adds to the discussion about the tools of the illuminati, as provided by Stone, and his case that celebrities like Angeline Jolie are unknowingly drawn into alleged illuminati machinations. In his interview with Alex Jones, you will note that he avoided Jones´blunter judgement of Jolie as a willing participant.

    Is this the case? Are some of these politically active celebrities, really that removed from reality as we know it, living in a bubble?

    You would think they are closer to the seats of power and if intelligent, have discerned some disturbing energies. There are exceptions of course, like Sean Penn who has often spoken up to expose corruption and pursue truth. Charlie Sheen as well ..

    What is still a question for me is: how is Sean Stone delving deeper into the present world of the illuminati and still living? Is Iran his protection card? And why is he discussing/exposing the hidden side of western society with Iranians?

    The article is by blogger: barackobama.ir

    Sean Stone:
    Angelina Jolie is unaware of the Illuminati agenda in her activities

    In an interview with BarackObama.ir, Sean Stone talks about the influence of Angelina Jolie and Britney Spears on American women, men and even children in addition to how Hollywood affects culture and politics. He considers Britain more of a threat than Israel and besides he gave us his viewpoint on Iran’s Leader.What follows is the transcription of the interview with Sean before his conversion to Islam. He talked to BarackObama.ir while he was attending a conference on Hollywoodism that has been held along with the Fajr film festival.

    Hello Sean,
    Thank you for taking the time to answer a few questions for Barackobama.ir.

    My first question is what do you think about the Hollywood film Industry and its influences on people, as far as family values,is measured and so on?

    That is a good question; I mean I think it goes all the way back to Disney, does it not? I believe that Disney is part of what they call the Illuminati structure and what they do is that they use hidden symbols in the messaging in their films , various subliminal messages and you know its very ironic that even dumbo, for instance , the hallucination sequence, you see these triangles , the great pyramids with the all seeing eye.
    It is just so convective, you know the people who know the symbols, people who are part of the Masonic structure, or people who know the hidden mystery school traditions, are always very aware of these signs.
    Therefore, the point is that Disney gives you a certain conception to the world,what they see is that, men are all princes and women are all princess and they are waiting for their man to come and rescue them.
    I know that it affects a lot of people and they grow up with a certain fantasy the fantasy of reality and of course you then have the nefarious aspect of it, where you are actually trying to program people like Wizard of Oz.


    For example, it is teaching you that life is multi dimensional so one dimension is black and white and then the other dimension, which is Oz, and in Ozit’s like where the Illuminati rule apparently with their wizard and their witch is really a fake witch.
    I mean, if I think about bin Laden for example, I think of him as the witch that was killed and its very ironic that when he was killed, even though I am not sure if it was him or not, when they said he was killed it was April 30th which is the day of the Sabbath.
    The next day, they said the witch is dead and the next day the future King,King William was married. So it is like, wow the witch is dead and long lives the king. There is always little hidden meanings if you look at it and that’s how this works , I mean its like 9/11 , one, one and what do you have; the two towers and they are both Masonic, the tower structures the two pillars.
    Why do they have the pentagon as the pentagram,it is a satanic and is being used for Satanism or it is always used for magic, so if you know what to look for, you can always find these symbols everywhere.
    For example, in the west, men and women do not love each other for the right reasons, the sexes are blended, women act like men, they screw around like men and they treat men like, they have the power.




    They act like they have the option to choose, they play men like, oh well I have you and six other options and the men have to show her who is going to give her the most freedom and she is going to mess around.
    Traditionally if a man was to court a woman, the man would go up to her and ask her, if he could take her out and she would tell him if she was interested or not, now it’s all a blur.
    Now women are in a very difficult situation in America where, they have to work, they have to be independent and they have to make their money but yet at the same time they still want to be nurtured and taken care of, and they want be wives and have children.
    How can they do that if they cannot financially support their selves, so they have no choice but to become hookers or find some rich old guy to support them.Some of them want to be independent and say I am Just as much as a man as you are, but no you are not you are woman.

    Now let us talk about Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Lopez ,do you think they are controlled by some power and they have to take orders from them?

    I think they maybe reptilians ha ha ha …. I don’t want to single out people but I think Angelina Jolie is a very strong woman and I know many women that are sexually attracted to her.
    To me she’s maybe reptilian; you know reptilians, like aliens and that bloodline, she definitely is a symbol for many things early in her career.
    she was a symbol for almost S &M style behavior ,cutting her self, you know doing these blood rituals , witch craft stuff, so she does have that aura around her and my father picked up on that and that’s why he put her in the movie Alexandria.
    She played the sorceress, she is not actually sorceress, she is witch, she worships Bacchus,Dionysus, she is got snakes all over her, she is a bit of a sorceress in that film and I think my father is right seeing her like that.
    What she is actually like and what is she doing in the large scheme, I mean people will argue that politically, she is not necessarily doing the right thing with her influence but, for better or worse, she is very active with UN politics.
    I do think that there is a good motive there, I do think that she is trying to do the right thing but at the same time there are probably agendas that she is not even aware of or may not be aware of.



    The UN is often working with the U.S, they’re always pushing a certain angle and agenda in each country, so you know it is a case-by-case scenario.
    However, she is obviously very active physically and is she is very symbolic.Where as Jenifer Lopez, I really do not see her in the same category, I think her actually a good person but she is more of a sex symbol specially for black guys.She is more famous in the black community, being involved with rappers in the past and what not.
    I think her mind is being controlled to a certain extend.For example, look at Britney Spears, even at the beginning she was being controlled by Disney.
    She was being used ritualistically to tempt young girls, to be progitive and becoming a sex symbol at the age of fifteen or sixteen to loose their sense of self and that’s the real question in the west.
    How do you maintain your integrity as an individual and self respect in a world where they want you to fantasize money, so that effects every one men and women, the message is just make money , it does not matter how you make it .
    Your morality does not matter, just make money so when money is fetish zed it is hard to maintain your sense if integrity or your sole and to preserve you sole and the ability to live with yourself.
    That becomes really hard until it is too late then you are shattered and ran down and lost your good looks and then all the sudden you realize I have nothing to use any more, like your good looks , wow do I steel or kill and destroy?
    That’s like the Snow White story where the witch is basically lost her looks and she has to do everything she can and to kill everyone she possibly can just to get her vanity back.



    There are some good messages in the Disney movies, they are not all bad but there is a fantasy nature to it that if you do not understand it you will get wrong message.
    Like the Cinderella story where they almost have to cut her foot just so the shoe fits her foot and that is very brutal or in the little mermaid she dies and she does not get what she wanted at the end.
    There are messages that are intended to mess your mind up and they do whatever, good or bad just to have a happy ending and they lose the morality aspect there.

    Do you think if they really wanted to, they could help world peace or the family structure bond?

    I think every actor has moral decision and every filmmaker too. When you choose a roll or a story, you have to recognize the consequences of what you’re doing.
    I believe that some actors have sold their sole to the devil, because often times they play rolls that where they are doing satanic ritual activity like jins and demons.
    People say well it’s just a movie but no its not just a movie when you are taking a roll in part of the movie you are in the mindset of the people and when you unleash that film it’s like unleashing a porn you are not aware of the consequences.

    Do you think there is a chance that they may join the ninety nine percent?

    I sure hope so,there is always possibilities.
    It’s just the question of awareness, we need leadership and that’s all there is to it. We need people that are smart with a good voice who understand history and know the real enemy, which is the British Empire, not Wall Street.
    Wall Street is just another extension of the British Empire, if you really look at it,it is the British imperialist mentality of slaving the world, and this was performed in Venice and before that, it was in Rome and before that, it was in Babylon. Even, the Persians were sucked into the Babylonian empire and Babylon goes back in the ancient days and the Old Testament, and that was the origin of all this and all the symbols.
    All this goes back to that era and that’s where the mystery schools came from and the Freemason and the Illuminati understand that and they love the fact that they have been in power and they are still holding on to it and if you look at today there are a few million people controlling the whole world.



    This question is about who or which Hollywood companies support or push the Zionist agenda in their films with symbolism like the matrix and plant Zion. That’s an interesting question; is it not mount Zion is obviously biblical?There is a little more importance to it and there are hidden meanings that goes beyond the state of Israel, as we know.The modern day Zionism is British imperialism politics and we can relate this to the Rothschild family.
    The Rothschild family promoted the idea of the state of Israel, regardless of people already being there.
    It should have been a state but don’t forget that British created the whole middle east map and they divided all those countries like Syria and Saudi and Iraq and so on and Israel as well and the reason was to set the stage for future wars , the same way they divided Pakistan and India.
    You cannot really blame the Jews.The Jews were sent there by the British.They did not invade Palestine and I think that is a problem in Iran. I think they are confused and have this thing against a few;it’s all about the British ruling families and their policies.
    For example , they were the ones to divided countries like Kuwait and the UAE .it’s all designed to divide , if you look beyond the smaller issues and see the bigger picture , they all used to be brothers and also Iran and Israel are the only non Arab countries in the middle east and historically Israel is very close with Iran.
    There’re many Persian Jews in Iran and they have not been prosecuted because Iran has a long history with Jews going back to Zoroastrians.There is evidence of Iranians being very tolerant of other religions, so I don’t see Iranian prosecuting Jews. I don’t see that at all.
    We have to understand and overcome the border issues and superficial divisions. We have to look at what ayatollah Khamenei has been saying about how men are all brothers and created by one god. The more we fixate on Israel and how Israelis are killing Palestinians, the more you fixate on that you are going to create a condition for war because of the fixation on persecution.
    There is injustice everywhere, like the Saudi government is a good example of that.You can’t just look at one country; you have to look at the imperialist system out of England that’s the enemy, the imperialists system, that’s our enemy, if you make nations your enemy you are always going to loose.

    One last question, what do you think about Ayatollah Khamenei and his messages?

    To be honest I do not know enough about him and that is because we never hear anything about him in the west, in the media and when we do,it is all negative.
    I can tell you one thing since I’ve been here I have heard him say one thing and I should point out the fact that he is the only would leader that has said this and what he has said is that man is the image of god.
    If you go back in time and look at history,some of the most loved leaders in the past have only said this.
    And that is that man is the image of god, because if otherwise men would be like monkey’s and if we think of men as monkey’s, all you would do would be to kill each other and fight to survive and preserve you species and that’s what fascism and imperialism is, just like the British Empire.

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    The following report, which is comparatively different, criticizing Sean Stone´s involvement with Iran, might be used to consider what his wider agenda is.

    See also the video interview with Fox News within this report (link below)


    O’Reilly Interviews Oliver Stone’s Son About His Conversion To Islam, Hanging Out With Ahmadinejad
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    by Alex Alvarez | 9:38 pm, February 20th, 2012
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    On Monday, Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly invited Sean Stone — son of fellow filmmaker Oliver Stone — to the show to discuss his recent conversion to Islam… specifically his decision to convert in Iran.

    Stone explained that “convert” is an interesting word to use in his case, because he doesn’t believe one is converting when worshiping the same God as before. “I’ve always believed in the same Judeo-Christian God,” he clarified, “and it’s a misunderstanding of Islam to say Allah is a different god.” So he didn’t convert Islam so much as “accepted” a new religion.

    RELATED: Santorum Staffer: Obama’s Energy Decisions Determined By His ‘Radical Islamic Policies’

    He adds that, when speaking to people in Iran (including the country’s highly controversial president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad), he would tell them to, basically, cut it out with “this ‘down with America’ nonsense.”

    O’Reilly said he doesn’t have an issue with Stone’s faith or even his time in Iran, but, rather, with his decision to hang out with a political leader who is, in no uncertain terms, an extremist. The host even compared Stone’s visit to taking a trip to Nazi Germany and hanging out with Hitler. Besides, he pointed out, here you are meeting with a man who has denied the Holocaust when your own father is Jewish.

    Stone attempted to explain Ahmadinejad’s views regarding Israel and, indeed, the Holocaust, while making sure to add that “there’s no room for Holocaust denial, of course.” But the bigger point, he added, is that dialogue needs to be opened up within the Middle East. (Although, as O’Reilly pointed out, maybe sending, say, former president Jimmy Carter to the region is noooot the best idea.)

    “You ok with Iran having a nuclear weapon?” asked O’Reilly, not one to beat around the bush.

    “I am,” Stone replied. “Because it’s a republic and there are factions… it’s very much like this country, there’s a lot of unrest inside that country from the economic point of view.”

    Have a look, via Fox News:


    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bill...islam-in-iran/


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    Disney was a 33rd Degree Mason also, and there is a Club 33 inside Disneyland. What better great place to be if you're a sick paedophile satanic illuminati clubber than mouseketeer heaven.

    http://www.matterhorn1959.com/blog1/club33a.jpg

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    If Disney was a 33 degree mason, what would be the significance of the limitation of club membership, set at 487?
    I found this on the unofficial page for the club: http://www.disneylandclub33.com/

    The official page within the disney site, is obviously a little more low key:
    http://d23.disney.go.com/news/2009/07/inside-club-33/

    The following page on the unofficial site, gives some cheeky masonic references to Walt´s design for the club:

    http://www.disneylandclub33.com/Myths%20&%20Rumors.htm

    Freeman, though has more to say in this radio statement. Some pretty graphic testimony is presented:



    http://wu.sauceruney.com/digitrash/f...lluminated.mp3
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    Excellent interview. Thanks very much for posting this, Zebra.

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    so a lot of belief in an organization like the illuminati is they have satanic rituals?
    which predicates a belief in satan?
    which predicates a beief in god?
    which, i think, we can agree is based on superstition.
    which, i think, we can agree shouldn't be taken too seriously?

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    Quote Posted by peace (here)
    so a lot of belief in an organization like the illuminati is they have satanic rituals?
    which predicates a belief in satan?
    which predicates a beief in god?
    which, i think, we can agree is based on superstition.
    which, i think, we can agree shouldn't be taken too seriously?


    Well peace, that depends entirely on one´s belief, of course.

    However, in my humble understanding of this topic, if compelling evidence is on the table that people are impacted in serious ways because of a said organization, then it matters not if they function in the name of god or satan.

    Beyond what Sean Stone is bringing to the table, there is a respectable field of research out there on this topic, which has provided evidence that members of said organisations in great positions of power are acting out some very dis-functional, medieval behavior well into the 21st century.

    So, no, I cannot agree with you because matters - that are linked back to this insidious network of power, involve a long list of criminal acts, from horrendous child abuse, animal sacrifices to 9/11 and beyond. The evidence is overwhelming, no? In my universe, I really think they deserve our attention. And more.

    However, I would like to know more about why you arrive at this conclusion? I am sure that you make it for a good reason. And I am open here. That is why I am on this forum, to learn what is being said. We live in slippery times, and I do believe that all information serves a purpose to get at the truth.

    Thank you and I am curious.
    Zebra
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    Good site, good article.
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