WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[jcocks]

I'm starting to think that the only way we're going to get any traction in FE is not to actually go after FE, but work around it amongst the numerous issues that surround FE - which are in many ways more important and without which we cannot have FE anyway.
If we can chip away at the fear then eventually when we've dealt with all that the whole FE issue will be much more readily accepted (a bit like a shrub, where you can eventually cut away the greenery to expose the bare wood. My terminology isn't precise but I'm sure you can see what I'm trying to say.). I would hazard a guess there are more than enough potential level 12ers out there to form your choir, but they are so deep in the 9 - to - 5 that they don't even see themselves as such. It's not even on their radar screens. Only once the status-quo is destroyed (through economic collapse or other means) will the other non-immediate concerns outside of the 9 to 5 be visible to them. The status quo is simply too powerful and profitable at this time. Either that or we have to try and get through to them how important it is so they can put it on their radar..... A mighty task, but by no means impossible.

Out of interest, if you say godzilla is beyond the rothschilds and rockerfellers of this world, then who do you feel we are talking about when we talk of Godzilla? I would be extremely interested to know what your thoughts are on this. One could say it could be vital information - for how can we fight a "godzilla" if we do not really have a firm grasp of who (or what) Godzilla actually is?

[sandy]

Hi jcocks,

IMHO there is no need to know who Godzilla is or who to fight as it really is all about us. The days of fighting as many centuries have proven, doesn't work to make a world of abundance only scarcity.

Maybe the opposite would be more appropriate. Lets surrender to LOVE and give up ego, competition, jealousy, envy, greed, righteousness, judgement, etc. With Love, in place of the aforementioned, FE would soon be leading the world to a place that would ring true of the words "Heaven right here on Earth".

Good to see you here.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

Well, I just took my ibuprofen, and am ready for another day of moving! Boy, am I getting too old for this. The hardest part is moving my library. Oh, how I wish it was all electronic!

Big subjects being brought up. Yes, the heart is key, and there is plenty of physical evidence of it, as Sandy is pointing out. We barely know anything of how the universe really works, and the mind-emotions-body connection is one of the biggest mysteries. IMO, eventually, scientists will understand that the mystical masters have ahold of something that the scientists can barely fathom. As I have written plenty, the science of consciousness is the greatest science of all, and materialistic science has completely missed that boat so far, and materialism has led to science’s greatest evils, such as animal and human experiments, diabolical weaponry, etc. As Fuller said, the fixation on weaponry in science and technology, instead of what he called livingry, may be our doom.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#livingry

Hi jcocks, yes, there are many layers of the FE onion, and it is quite possible that the collapse has to come before people begin to wake up, but I do not want to live through that wake up call, because it will be brutal. I am doing what I can so there does not need to be a collapse and movies like The Road become realities (yes, CdnSirian, I am watching it in snatches right now – delightful movie ).

I agree with Sandy that Godzilla’s identity is not important, and people who try to unmask him end up dead pretty quickly. When people focus on Godzilla as being the source of our problems, they are thinking like victims. That is part of the problem. Denying that Godzilla exists is also part of the problem, as naïve people blithely run toward the meat grinder. I treat Godzilla like a thunderstorm. I can’t fight it, I can’t negotiate with it, and all I can do when the storm hits is avoid high ground. Nobody finds Godzilla; he finds you. That you are interacting with me, even though you do not use your real name, puts you on Godzilla’s radar, although not high up there. So far, all Godzilla does is watch what I am doing.

But I give some details in my writings of what I know about him. I largely know him by his handiwork, not the least of which were our interactions with his agents:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

and I am sure that he had something to do with what went down in Ventura:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

but just what all that was is hard to say. The system is evil, so Godzilla does not need to turn the knobs very vigorously to produce the desired outcome. During my journey, the big lesson was how almost everybody did Godzilla’s work for him:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

quite unwittingly. We are the root of the problem, not Godzilla. Godzilla is only a symptom. I have presented in my writings some of Godzilla’s identity that people like Greer have discovered, but I don’t go much further, and don’t know much further, than that. The retail elites, like the retail politicians, are not calling the shots. You have never heard of the people who comprise Godzilla. But Godzilla is currently fractured:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

and a sizable contingent wants FE to come out, as some of my fellow travelers know well:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

but almost all of humanity is living in their self-constructed prisons of their minds and hearts, living in fear. That is why almost everybody lives in those levels below Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level0

As Sandy knows, the problem is living in fear and thinking like a victim, and the solution is living from the heart and thinking like a creator. But that is no easy trick, in a world of scarcity.

Gotta go play moving crew now.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

A quick aside… I just saw a picture of the EROI of conventional energy sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_...uence_of_EROEI

on a real estate page that I regularly read:

http://patrick.net/

At least a few more are thinking about the real economic game being played, not the financial economy game.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

OK, one last post before I get to work. I have been wanting to write this one for some time. When I write that FE is a quadrillion dollar technology:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

it blows people out of the water, with them unable to wrap their heads around it. There are many aspects of the FE issue that take many years to wrap your head around, from the physics behind the technologies, to the resistance of almost everybody to the idea of FE (levels 1 to 3, and 5 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1), to understanding that people like Dennis have been offered a billion dollars to go away:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and so on. But here is something to make it a little easier to comprehend. Today, there is an international space station orbiting overhead. It cost about $100 billion. With FE, antigravity, advanced materials technologies and other goodies in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard, it becomes easy to imagine a device, maybe about the size of an automobile, that could be plopped onto the ground, anywhere on Earth, and it would put something that looked like a straw into the Earth, and nearly like a person blowing a bubble with bubblegum, growing out of the “car” would be a metallic bubble, with its skin as thick as necessary. Then the “car” and bubble would fly over to the ocean, desalinate a little water, take in a little air, and with some other goodies like fruit trees and other “passengers,” a self-contained space station would be constructed in less than an hour. Then it gets put into orbit in a few more minutes. Do you want the space station to host one person, ten, or fifty? Whatever. You fill it up with people, plants, animals, some advanced technology, and the thing is orbiting Earth, or Mars, in short order, for almost no “cost.” Heck, kids could design and build one as homework in one of their classes. So, what is a technological marvel today, using the best that “white science” and technology has to offer, can be built by a child in a few minutes, with technologies that exist today. And, in that world, people clean up their messes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#waste1

so when Junior was done with his space station homework, the same car-sized device would turn the space station back into its constituent elements and put it right back into Earth how it found it, put the plants back, and so on. Everything would look just like it did before Junior began. It would be the equivalent of a child learning how to make his bed, or picking up his toys after he was done playing with them.

So, saying that FE is worth quadrillions of dollars blows people away, so that they cannot imagine it. What today would be a trillion dollar space station could be built by a child, under an FE regime, in a few minutes. When you begin to see that picture, saying that FE is worth quadrillions of dollars is a vast understatement of the change that FE could bring about.

That is today’s food for thought.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

I am an electrician, as some might already know.
One of the most perplexing troubleshooting nightmares is what they call a "floating" neutral. What that means is that the "center point" of a multi-phased system has been severed from its connection to ground. Without the neutral being connected to ground the system goes haywire. Voltages can begin to vary from a few volts to thousands of volts - causing massive equipment failures and dangerous conditions for motors and other inductive loads.
Although it is easy to spot once you've encountered it a few times, until you figure out the symptoms it is maddening. Anything can happen in such a scenario. From intermittent problems to full disasters. And although it is easy to fix the symptom (just ground the neutral again, don't forget to shut off the power before doing it cause you'll probably not survive the attempt otherwise) it does not make much sense from a purely scientific viewpoint. That is unless one understands the concept of internal and external circuits involved in the generation of electricity. In our world we completely ignore the "external" circuit. Can't remember right now which scientist, but one of them explains this in a video.
We continue to "short out" the external circuit so that we must constantly continue to turn the generators to start up the "excitation fields" only to have it short out again and again. It's a vicious circle...
What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that we already have a very rudimentary FE system in our power generation systems but for whatever reason, whether in ignorance or on purpose, we undermine the free flow of electrons by shorting the neutral. Of course phase to phase power (how we get 240 volts in North America and Europe) is essentially the same scenario.
Hope that made some sense.
Fe is just a tiny correction in our understandings away from being realized!
Keep up the faith and the pressure of positive thinking. Soon all will be enjoying the abundance of Free energy.

Hi Wade and friends.
Nice to post on this, my favorite thread, again.
Ernie

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I am an electrician, as some might already know.
One of the most perplexing troubleshooting nightmares is what they call a "floating" neutral. What that means is that the "center point" of a multi-phased system has been severed from its connection to ground. Without the neutral being connected to ground the system goes haywire. Voltages can begin to vary from a few volts to thousands of volts - causing massive equipment failures and dangerous conditions for motors and other inductive loads.
Ernie

May i ask you Ernie, are you referring to European grids where most consumer devices use 240VAC? I thought that the plastic devices on 220-240V had no ground wires as do the 110-120V USA devices, (like my plastic power tools which have no ground prong), I got a Euro weed waker at a yard sale, 220V, no ground, which draws my interest in your post... One leg of 120V here is directly connected to ground inside the fuse box. My limited electronics course taught me that the idea was to let the fuse kill the inevitable short circuit, while the ground, (also directly connected to the utility pole transformer lead), the ground would keep a zero-volt condition for the person touching the shorted device, relative to earth-ground. If you find refs on this it would be interesting to see more of what you refer to. Has anyone done a power-factor study on what you refer to (specifically)?
Thanks.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Bearden wrote about what you are referring to, I believe

http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/F.../indexold.html

I have seen people in the field that say that Bearden gets some of it wrong, and maybe on purpose. Sparky Sweet wrote about his device:

http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/1nothing.htm

and one of the wizards that I know was particularly impressed with the math. Math and theory are nice, but the proof is in the device, which Sparky had:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

I have that footage that I bought from Bearden of Sparky’s device getting more than a million-to-one return on the energy input. Many prototypes have been built, but they invariably end up in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard.

Time to get back to work.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thanks Wade, yes, it's Tom Bearden. I found the video in my files:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1_96Dqho9k

I hope it is alright to post this here. It's the answer to Wavydome's question. No doubt, you are correct about the fact there is some errors in his theory. It is compelling though, from a purely theoretical standpoint, don't you think?
Gotta look up Sparky's videos to catch up on that as well.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Long story on Tom. I met him in 1998:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden

and I talked about him and Sparky a bit in my interviews with Scott:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dVevw...lvyV9k5-riU%3D

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jU8iC3G30EA

Tom is retired now. A new video came out about Tom, Sparky and John Bedini:

http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/D...tMemories.html

It is on my list to receive.

Ernie, I have some FE physics and inventors’ threads:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post138564

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post358844

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...665#post431665

If you want to kick around FE physics, those threads await. I think that there are Avalonians who would like to have that chat, but the threads keep doing dormant. It is potentially dangerous subject matter, for those with inventor-itis. Then they may get to find out how real Godzilla is.

Going to bed now.

Best,

Wade

[Bo Atkinson]

Wow Ernie, that is way over the top but it speaks volumes beyond.

Edit:
Sorry guys, i'll try to fit Bearden's paraphrased-quote in wade's other thread, after more thought and also finishing with Ernie's vid, up above.

I thought Bearden was more of a scientist, more involved with maths. I never studied maths. I'll also have to read closer what Wade's focus is with this thread regarding waking people up. Before writing here. Thanks

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Today, I move my computer, and it may be back up at the new place tomorrow, and maybe not. We will see. As I am about to pack up the last of my office, I happened upon this on one of the sites that I regularly read:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-...iew-tom-murphy

It is a typical Level 3 awareness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

but that may seem to be too generous, because FE is not even mentioned as a possibility, except for a quick mention and dismissal of Rossi. As Tyler noted recently, such people, who claim to have turned over every stone, looking for energy solutions, must have heard of FE at some stage of their search. They have, but as Brian O discovered, they instantly dismiss FE and its organized suppression with the “laws of physics” and “conspiracy theory” objections. Such people are protecting their comforting ideas of reality. The notion that their hallowed physics texts might be defective, or the idea that the global economy is subject to clandestine management by people who know exactly what they are doing, is too overwhelming for them to consider. So, such notions are instantly banished and never considered again. Again, there are many myths about how science works:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#myths

They are self-serving myths, just like there are in any other system of thought, whether it is organized religion, nationalism, capitalism, and so on. The danger is thinking that science plays by different, loftier, rules. Scientists are probably the most invincibly brainwashed against FE, just as they are the most threated by the ET reality:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#brookings

The sooner that people accept that, the easier it will go for them in this milieu. And almost nobody in the FE field today has the right stuff, either, not enough of it to get over the FE finish line. There are liars:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

the naïve who chase after the Pentagon, the Fortune 500, and so on:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#government

I learned my lessons over the years, and I constantly encounter people new to the field who just have to go find out for themselves, disbelieving that the land really lies that way that I say. They usually find out the hard way, if they learn the lessons at all. In this milieu, finding out the hard way can cost you your life. There are no easy answers to this conundrum, and the primary problem is that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

which nobody really wants to admit, because they then have to take a good, long look in the mirror, and not just at themselves, but at our species. It is not an easy process, but going deep, into the many facets of this issue, is the only way out that I see. Comprehensive thinking is needed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

Which is that heart-centered sentience that I mention all the time.

It took most of a lifetime to reach my awareness today, but the process that I survived is not one that I would recommend to anybody. Playing the FE game is life-risking behavior, on many fronts, and the biggest threat does not come from Godzilla, but from our friends, family and associates, and that is if you have the right stuff to begin with, which I have rarely encountered. Most FE aspirants are their own worst enemies. Anybody with any awareness soon glimpses the magnitude of FE, and then their fears and delusions get magnified. People you think you know well, people you have known your entire life, become complete strangers, as the perils and temptations of FE lodge in their brains. Again, it is like walking the razor’s edge to attain a productive understanding of the issue, but if we are going to have any chance as a species, more have to attain it, and pronto.

Signing off for the day.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

Just a gentle reminder that this is not the thread to discuss the physics / mechanics of Free Energy

There are a few threads opened already where this can be debated:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...665#post431665
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post358844
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post138564

And of course you can start your own thread if you wish to discus a particular aspect.

Let's keep this thread focused on raising awareness about Free Energy, and what it could do for man kind!



The more I think of it, I see that not even the inventors realize the enormous impact that Free Energy could have. If they did, they'd probably go about it differently and understand how futile the patent or capitalist approaches really are...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

This may be my last post from my current home. Not much is left in the house now. Yes, you are pointing out part of the problem. I do not think I have met an inventor yet who really understood. Chasing patents and playing the capitalistic game is trying to pour the new wine into old skins. Thinking that they can sneak past Godzilla, or denying that he exists, is all part of their lack of seeing big picture, and those perspectives are scattered across Levels 6 to 11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

I am looking to help people reach Level 12 without shipwrecking their lives on the reefs of those other levels.

I hope that I post again here soon.

Best,

Wade

[Hughe]

I had a vision of future society sooner or later it will comes at least in my reality.

A small community based society that uses Free Energy power and Permaculture for growing food.
I read The One-Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka yesterday. I disagree with his extreme naturism but he proved that we can be custodian of life forms on Earth and have good living liberating from the slavery labor. Free energy technologies and permaculture share same philosophy "Work with nature in harmony, nature will provide everything."

I knew traditional and industrial farming is labor intensive work. Most farmers have became the victims of the system. It's bizarre to see farmers who supposed to respect plants and animals love to destroy forest, encourage factory livestock.

I decided not to engage in money making living if possible. I do everything I can for my projects. People expect to get money in return for their service. I'm sorry I won't do that. I started fixing my house at a small village two weeks ago. I and an old cousin hired an excavator operator one day, I arrived at my home one hour later. Damn, they destroyed all fruit trees there. The cousin is a typical hard working farmer who maintain simply lifestyle "work hard and you will make money." He is such a strong man, earned respect from people but he only follows the rules from the government. Yesterday I got a chunk of rice patty from him so that I'll experiment the rice farming of Masanobu Fukuoka this year.

[jcocks]

Perhaps the best way to go about it is by first asking the question :

"If we cannot first free the human mind or the spirit, then how can we have free energy?", since we ARE energy, and we ARE NOT free ourselves! Free Energy starts with US - it is not Free Electricity.

Free energy is MUCH more than just Electricity generation..... It's all one big bad interrelated mess, and you can't unravel one part without unraveling everything else as well....

[ulli]

I just got this in the mail. A TED talk. Making batteries more efficient so that solar energy supply can become more reliable. Not FE, but another baby step in the right direction?
House moves are transforming. I look back now on over forty moves, in five countries. Still not settled.
Hope you will enjoy your new home, Wade.
Your hands will hurt for a while, you will be more aware of your body, but it's all worth it. Until the next time.
The best part is in the shedding.
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/...e-battery.html

[Wade Frazier]

Hi All:

Good luck with your efforts, Hughe. They are inspiring. Yes, the system grinds away.

Hi Ulli:

This is move 22 or 23 since college. I could live in a tent if I had to. My brother lives in a tree. Thank god for painkiller. My moves became a lot harder after I got married. At least this move was voluntary. The previous two were not. I am wary of landlords anymore. I hope the next move is to a house that I own. I now live almost across the street from Microsoft. Nerds everywhere…

You are about the fourth person who has posted a link to that clip on my threads. Nothing that even sniffs in the FE direction is in his presentation. It is all conventional physics. He is a Level 3 guy, most likely (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3). On FE, the big step is the one that matters and the rest is just noise, and the firewall there is pretty impenetrable. As Jcocks says, FE is a multifaceted issue, which I write about plenty. There are only a few ways that I see FE happening in my lifetime:

1. Godzilla somehow dies or becomes a vegetarian (that faction that wants FE to come out is quite large now (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal));

2. Enough people can form a critical mass of heart-centered sentience so that an independent FE effort can overcome the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing);

3. The ETs or Ascended Masters show up.

That is about it. The hundred heroes strategy (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes) will not work because there are not a hundred to find (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany). Average people will begin to understand when FE is delivered to their homes (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli); they are currently yoked up hard to the scarcity-based ideologies of their choice:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

and are unable to even comprehend what a world based on abundance looks like:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

If I had not seen it with my own eyes countless times, I would not have believed it. Nearly all people are rooted in fear. That is the problem, and love is the answer, but the masses are not going to wake up to work like mine. I am looking for those needles in haystacks that can form the nugget of heart-centered awareness that is needed. It is not an easy task by any means, but at least I am not risking anybody’s life to do it, except maybe mine.

As I have stated many times before, the biggest threats that aspirants face are their own foibles and the attacks of their friends, family and associates. I just had that one come to roost as I was moving. A childhood friend who was my only active supporter during the Ventura nightmare subsequently tried to compete with me in my radicalized understanding of how the world works. It was a painful several years as he kept trying to engage me in his worldview (and challenge mine), which always turned the world into one big cowboy movie, with him making his case for justified violence. I must have had that conversation fifty times, and it was like arguing with a five-year-old. When I kept pointing out the false assumptions of his view and the irrationality of his arguments, he became increasingly angry, and I eventually asked him to stop having those conversations with me. He would not relent, however, and the last straw was him calling me to cheer the American bombing of Yugoslavia:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#friends

He since has tried to attack me through my family, after he extorted money from me.

I also have a close relative whose IQ is about half of mine, and he has always tried to be helpful with his “keen insight.” I have had to discourage him from sending me tabloid clippings to help in my research, and other fun. He has intentionally never understood that he can’t play the game that I am playing. It is like a five-year-old boy trying to play in the NFL. I recently told him in no uncertain terms that he is not to publicly associate himself with my work (he recently publicly identified one of people in my writings who I have long kept anonymous, to bolster his “credentials” in his eyes). When his “helpfulness” began becoming dangerous, I had to tell him in no uncertain terms to get off the playing field. That sent him into a sickness of mind and spirit that saw him try to wreck my relationship with my family by spreading a rumor that has never left my immediate family in the more than twenty years that it has existed. Not only did he tell relatives about the rumor, he inflated the rumor from something a little opportunistic if true into a criminal act, and then told everybody that I was the one spreading the rumor (it did not originate with me). I got the joy of angry relatives hounding me as I was moving. I will never talk to that relative again.

That is just another example of what people like me face. When I have traded notes with my few fellow travelers, the betrayals by family and friends are just days at the office. Again, even an idiot gets some idea of what FE can mean, so the immense perils and temptations easily overwhelm average people. You get treated like the messiah before they crucify you because you do not cater to their delusions (or when Godzilla burns you at the stake, they bring marshmallows). This stuff just comes with the territory, but I constantly see newbies scoff at those perils, certain that they somehow have the luck or virtue to escape such fates. I have found it to be like telling an eighteen-year-old boy what a battlefield is really like:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

They just have to go find out the hard way. Finding out the hard way on the FE playing field means a wrecked or prematurely terminated life.

Tomorrow, I walk into a Category 5 hurricane at work which will last for nearly six weeks. By June, I hope to be settled into the new place. I will likely not be very active at Avalon during the hurricane, but we will see.

Back to moving chores.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

My post today is over here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post459708

Onward to the hurricane.

Best,

Wade

[Hughe]

It happened twenty yeas ago! TPTB murdered him.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vd7QL1-NnlU

"If we cannot first free the human mind or the spirit, then how can we have free energy?", since we ARE energy, and we ARE NOT free ourselves! Free Energy starts with US - it is not Free Electricity.

Free energy is MUCH more than just Electricity generation..... It's all one big bad interrelated mess, and you can't unravel one part without unraveling everything else as well....

I disagree with. Each individual has right to choose based on their conscious not the collective. If the collective take cares of people, it will be fine. Looking at what the government really represents? It's run by monsters not humans, call them warmongers, psychopaths, blood lines, the Illuminatis, whatever. Will the government or scientific organization will help us? I don't think so.

I personally dislike using water as source of energy but it's a lot better than fossil fuels. Saving fuel upto 20% to 30% on a car or motorcycle is feasible using a on-demand HHO kit. Car owners started to work out for themselves. The number is growing.

The rising cost of fuel will cut the throat of the middle class. Why do billions people suffer from deliberate suppression? Few thousands people out of billions are actually using some form of FE devices IMHO. I rather take risk myself than hopeless waiting for somebody or an organization's aid.