Weird, isn't it?Posted by astrid (here)
That's the other thing i have noticed is that I'm not
worried, despite the mess we are in, I'm not in the least
bit concerned about the future.
Weird, isn't it?Posted by astrid (here)
That's the other thing i have noticed is that I'm not
worried, despite the mess we are in, I'm not in the least
bit concerned about the future.
This is a bit odd, but it tends to cover both sides of the developed spectrum.Posted by christian (here)
I got myself a kebab this morning and the woman asked me, if I don't have to be at school. I said I'm 26, she said I look like 17. I took this as a compliment, especially when I consider, that I didn't sleep at all the other night, I feel somewhat elated, dunno. Waiting for my kebab I saw a guy running down the street followed by 4 shop employees. 3 of his followers were rather slow guys and only the girl seemed eager to keep the pace. I didn't see around the corner when they all made a turn, wonder how that developed. I mean as a girl, what does she expect, to stop him and detain him? He seemed quite sporty. Maybe she simply appreciated the oppurtinity to get some fresh air and exercise. Did she really care about whatever it was that he stole or did she want to appear conscientious? Backstreet mysteries..
what I mean is that a friend of mine tended to frequent many bars in his youth, mostly ones that were eateries, though ( half restaurant type bars). As a social historian/anthropologist (this is the guy who had his ideas taken from him and turned into this other person helping humanity understand itself better), he noted that over millennia, men had learned to be polite with one another due to the wars and death that would erupt when confrontation was direct, between men. That men had developed social grease and similar methodologies in order to prevent confrontation from developing, if at all possible. And that women had not developed that aspect to such a high degree, due to the different emphasis in fundamental capacities and associated directions.
This also plays out in the bit about how when women run a society, people stop dying and when men run a society, people die. (a cheap shot, as generalizations go, but bear with me for a moment)
So the development of social tools is a bizarre kind of opposite tied to what the expression is. This, due to the fact that people have to integrate. This observance of course, came about from seeing how when women were involved in male/female confrontations in bars, that men avoided confrontation at all costs ...and that it was noted that many times, that women would move forward to the full confrontation.
The capacities and directions of 'final intent' of either sex could not be more different, which is for men that when confrontation happens ....people die. And for women that the confrontation might get very verbal and emotionally nasty, but people don't die.
Thus, when the women (or just one woman in one party) of the two groups in confrontation would try and escalate to direct physical confrontation, the men would have to work hard to make sure that it never went there..for if they become involved..it might move to a very final state. Serious injury, hospitalization, death.
This sort of thing is actually very obvious in the retrospective view or social sense, but saying it out loud and deliberately... does make a difference. Thus, it can be looked at in the abstract sense, which can be critical when it comes to figuring out what it means and what to do with it.
Regarding chasing a shoplifter. The woman running forward and the men being a bit slow. I have dealt with chasing shoplifters before. In a group of mixed sexes, exactly like this situation.
The woman is likely, at the deeper level, seeking correction of emotional mindset or social function correction in the individual male being chased.
The men chasing, they know better. If they catch the man, a full scale confrontation is the result. It will not decrease, for the male being chased is not going to bend, to acquiesce, to change or shift.......he will escalate. And any men that arrive at that point of finality, will find themselves confronted with a person who is willing to, and is in the body and mindset of an escalation. An escalation to a minimum of a fully blown physical confrontation where injury is not only likely, but virtually assured. This, due to the 'cost' of the act, as presented to the shoplifter-as a potential future for them.
Over what? A few stolen items?
Last edited by Carmody; 3rd April 2012 at 15:20.
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