Richard Hoagland

[RMorgan]

Hi again guys,

Well, IF he´s indeed a researcher and not a charlatan, he might have fallen into the same trap that other researchers (from several fields) did in the past, which is called obsession.

Whenever a researcher gets obsessive with his research, he becomes biased and incapable of achieving realistic/reliable results.

I bet that, if a psychologist did a Rorschach test with him, all he would see is extraterrestrial faces, intergalactic motherships, and this kind of things.

Of course, when a man is obsessive, he doesn´t listen to anyone but himself and becomes very arrogant.

Cheers,

Raf.

[The Arthen]

Jay Weidner probably had a much more accurate take on the contrast anomalies of "glass formations" Hoagland pointed out on the moon.

Turned out it's the friggin 3M screen used for projection work back in the 70s.

The first 2 Superman films also used the exact same techniques of front-screen projection at Pinewood Studios, England.

[jsb_swampfox]

My personal view is that Hoagland and many others are being fed dis info, It could be some kind of test by the controlling powers, to test their ability to infiltrate the alternative community with, "their own". I think he was duped with info that "they" wanted to put out for one reason or another. I do believe he should have used a lot more discernment when putting out the crazy things he said about the whole "Elenin" fiasco...

[The Arthen]

I mean, even though I know Hoagie boy was wrong on the "glass formations" - this still shouldn't be a deterant on the issue of anomaly objects found on the surface of the moon.

I can see why beginner conspiracy researchers find this frustrating!

Imagine if they first started their Moon-related research from HOAGIE.
That's bound to **** up their first impressions of such "conspiracies".

I still say there are objects on the moon, but definitely not "spectacular glass formations"!

[RMorgan]

Posted by jsb_swampfox (here)
My personal view is that Hoagland and many others are being fed dis info, It could be some kind of test by the controlling powers, to test their ability to infiltrate the alternative community with, "their own". I think he was duped with info that "they" wanted to put out for one reason or another. I do believe he should have used a lot more discernment when putting out the crazy things he said about the whole "Elenin" fiasco...

Well, I don´t fully agree with that.

Thinking that the so called "elite" is feeding disinfo to those guys is just exempting them from their responsibilities. Everyone is responsible for what they say or do.

You shouldn´t doubt about the incredible ability that some people have to screw things up all by themselves.

Anyway, if someone, hypothetically, feeds Hoagland (or any of those guys) with lies and he believes them, it´s his fault, not anyone else´s fault.

Cheers,

Raf.

[jagman]

Cartomancer, IMO Hoagland is a hard one to figure out. He sprinkles truth with deception. Why? I'm not sure. Could he still be working
for the government ? Possibly. I know people who know Richard personally and they have told me Richard has a huge ego. I also think
George Noory has had his fill of Richards nonsense. A few months back I called Coast when Richard was on. My question was highly critical
of Richard and his predictions. They could not get to my question that night because of time restraints and another guest but George told me
call the next show. ( He told me he thinks Richard should answer his critics) I called the next show but that was the night Georges dad passed
away so i decided not to ask a confrontational question that night. Richard is extremely smart guy. So when it comes to deflecting a question
he does not want to answer, It's simply child's play..

[jsb_swampfox]

I agree Raf, I know some of these "Insiders" get quite full of themselves, and tend to exaggerate (hoagland is great at this). And this could be the case here. Hoagland got his info from someone, he is always bragging on his insider contacts. That is why I come to that conclusion. But he could have made it all up on his own too. I am just throwing out other possible scenario's. I don't believe Hoagland is a total farce, Of course, he has pretty much ruined his credibility.

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by jsb_swampfox (here)
My personal view is that Hoagland and many others are being fed dis info, It could be some kind of test by the controlling powers, to test their ability to infiltrate the alternative community with, "their own". I think he was duped with info that "they" wanted to put out for one reason or another. I do believe he should have used a lot more discernment when putting out the crazy things he said about the whole "Elenin" fiasco...

Well, I don´t fully agree with that.

Thinking that the so called "elite" is feeding disinfo to those guys is just exempting them from their responsibilities. Everyone is responsible for what they say or do.

You shouldn´t doubt about the incredible ability that some people have to screw things up all by themselves.

Anyway, if someone, hypothetically, feeds Hoagland (or any of those guys) with lies and he believes them, it´s his fault, not anyone else´s fault.

Cheers,

Raf.

[DeBron]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Posted by frances (here)
I think he made fools out of a lot of people, people who were quite public about their belief in his words. Words that now come back to haunt him. Frances.

Sadly I think we may be seeing the same concept at work with the whole Fulford Wilcock thing. Notice how there are no hard facts to back up what they have been saying either but people are eating it up with a knife and fork.

Probably eating it with a spoon, because cutting it up would cause one to look at it more closely, possibly altering the desire to ingest it.

[RMorgan]

Posted by DeBron (here)

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Posted by frances (here)
I think he made fools out of a lot of people, people who were quite public about their belief in his words. Words that now come back to haunt him. Frances.

Sadly I think we may be seeing the same concept at work with the whole Fulford Wilcock thing. Notice how there are no hard facts to back up what they have been saying either but people are eating it up with a knife and fork.

Probably eating it with a spoon, because cutting it up would cause one to look at it more closely, possibly altering the desire to ingest it.

Yeah...Do you know when, in Hollywood, producers explore the same theme over and over again, when they find a theme that makes them a lot of money?

It´s the same thing with this predictions/conspiracies scenario. These guys have found the recipe for "success", which is, basically, the craziest the better.

So, they mix secret societies, solar/planetary cycles, rogue planets, extra-terrestrials of several kinds, insiders/whistleblowers, satanism, apocalyptic threats, super-soldiers and (you name it).

Mix all these things, put them in a very poorly written script, spread it all over the web, the get all "researchers" to support each other and booooom, you´ve got a successful conspiracy.

We must remember that the alternative media brainwashes people as well, so don´t trust something simply because it´s "alternative", because it might not be so alternative as you think. In fact, a big part of the alternative media and its main characters use the same strategies of the so called "mainstream media" to increase viewership.

Cheers,

Raf.

[STATIC]

Hoagland was obviously reaching with the elenin situation cause he is constantly stuck in a startrek episode.
However the man has brought more than a few interesting thoughts to my mind, so I'l always lend him my ear.
The truth is the Galaxy that we live in is much more wonderous than our current paradigm of thought is allowing us to except as "Fact".
Considering how narrow our perception of the universe is I don't even know why we place so much value on these "Facts".
I mean really. Every time we think we got it figured out the next dreamer comes along and shatters our paradigm.
So I take Hoagy for what he is. A dreamer, and that's ok in my book.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

[Operator]

Posted by The Arthen (here)
I mean, even though I know Hoagie boy was wrong on the "glass formations" - this still shouldn't be a deterant on the issue of anomaly objects found on the surface of the moon.

I can see why beginner conspiracy researchers find this frustrating!

Imagine if they first started their Moon-related research from HOAGIE.
That's bound to **** up their first impressions of such "conspiracies".

I still say there are objects on the moon, but definitely not "spectacular glass formations"!

Yes, 'glass' domes are becoming more and more a blatant mistake now on Hoagland's part. However I think he will need
to back pedal a whole lot more. When I listen to John Lear, I have to agree, the original Apollo story is hard to believe and
most likely not true either. For me it's becoming very obvious ... for an insider like Hoagland it should have been obvious
from the start. It leads me to believe that he's controlled opposition.

[CD7]

Alot of predictor's are pretty quiet this year........in the year of such excitement!? u would think these peeps couldnt be kept off the prediction wagon airways[COLOR="red"





a little too close to december..i presumeeeeeee

[13th Warrior]

It's been my experience that it's other people who have been over exaggerating what Richard Hoagland has been stating; his speculations on possibilities have been morphed into stated truths.

[CD7]

LOL....who can predict ****e! My last post messed up so bad..i fixed it and alas it shows the color=red <----------not my intention, make of it what u will

[Cartomancer]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
It's been my experience that it's other people who have been over exaggerating what Richard Hoagland has been stating; his speculations on possibilities have been morphed into stated truths.

Here's Hoagland saying that the asteroid and Elenin are constructed objects. He is not inferring or theorizing that they are machines he is coming right out and saying it. Listen at about 25:20. If what you are saying is true he needs to be more careful about saying this is his opinion. He is being fed a raft from someone and then goes out and spews it all as if it were true.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V4Lly1dM6TY

Here's a composite pic of YU55. See any structures here?

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[13th Warrior]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
It's been my experience that it's other people who have been over exaggerating what Richard Hoagland has been stating; his speculations on possibilities have been morphed into stated truths.

Here's Hoagland saying that the asteroid and Elenin are constructed objects. He is not inferring or theorizing that they are machines he is coming right out and saying it. Listen at about 25:20. If what you are saying is true he needs to be more careful about saying this is his opinion. He is being fed a raft from someone and then goes out and spews it all as if it were true.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V4Lly1dM6TY

Here's a composite pic of YU55. See any structures here?

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How carefully did you listen to the first 6 minutes of the show you posted?

[Cartomancer]

It does not matter what he said during the first six minutes of the show. All's he is saying is the some "brave men and women" supplied him with this information and then infers that he didn't mean to stretch the truth. He blames it on the listeners for misinterpreting what he said. He even qualifies it by stating that George even has trouble with some of the things he says.

He later presented material like it was true without qualifying whether it was factual or not. I listen to lots of alternative information on the radio and internet. This guy does nothing but promote "fear porn" while criticizing others who do the same thing. Even the host of the show is starting to question this guy. If you want to believe this I support you and even think it gives more credibility that someone like you is defending him. I write my own books and make videos with plenty of material people do not believe. I am always careful to point out that it is just a theory but may be possible; and not just at the start of the interview.

This guy is a trained P.R. and media consultant/personality. He clearly states that his "sources" "briefed" him on this material. He is being led down the garden path by someone who knows what they are doing and he is eating it up with a fork and knife. Sorry if you are offended or believe what Hoagland is saying but I just do not. Can you please list all of his theories that were later proven correct? What has he ever said that could not be considered "fear porn?" He had half of the forum here convinced that a large object was going to hit the earth. You don't see anything wrong with that? Even Bill chimed in with some rumor he heard at the airport.

[13th Warrior]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
It does not matter what he said during the first six minutes of the show. All's he is saying is the some "brave men and women" supplied him with this information and then infers that he didn't mean to stretch the truth. He blames it on the listeners for misinterpreting what he said. He even qualifies it by stating that George even has trouble with some of the things he says.

He later presented material like it was true without qualifying whether it was factual or not. I listen to lots of alternative information on the radio and internet. This guy does nothing but promote "fear porn" while criticizing others who do the same thing. Even the host of the show is starting to question this guy. If you want to believe this I support you and even think it gives more credibility that someone like you is defending him. I write my own books and make videos with plenty of material people do not believe. I am always careful to point out that it is just a theory but may be possible; and not just at the start of the interview.

This guy is a trained P.R. and media consultant/personality. He clearly states that his "sources" "briefed" him on this material. He is being led down the garden path by someone who knows what they are doing and he is eating it up with a fork and knife. Sorry if you are offended or believe what Hoagland is saying but I just do not. Can you please list all of his theories that were later proven correct? What has he ever said that could not be considered "fear porn?" He had half of the forum here convinced that a large object was going to hit the earth. You don't see anything wrong with that? Even Bill chimed in with some rumor he heard at the airport.

All i'm going to say is that you continue to prove my point...

[Cartomancer]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
It does not matter what he said during the first six minutes of the show. All's he is saying is the some "brave men and women" supplied him with this information and then infers that he didn't mean to stretch the truth. He blames it on the listeners for misinterpreting what he said. He even qualifies it by stating that George even has trouble with some of the things he says.

He later presented material like it was true without qualifying whether it was factual or not. I listen to lots of alternative information on the radio and internet. This guy does nothing but promote "fear porn" while criticizing others who do the same thing. Even the host of the show is starting to question this guy. If you want to believe this I support you and even think it gives more credibility that someone like you is defending him. I write my own books and make videos with plenty of material people do not believe. I am always careful to point out that it is just a theory but may be possible; and not just at the start of the interview.

This guy is a trained P.R. and media consultant/personality. He clearly states that his "sources" "briefed" him on this material. He is being led down the garden path by someone who knows what they are doing and he is eating it up with a fork and knife. Sorry if you are offended or believe what Hoagland is saying but I just do not. Can you please list all of his theories that were later proven correct? What has he ever said that could not be considered "fear porn?" He had half of the forum here convinced that a large object was going to hit the earth. You don't see anything wrong with that? Even Bill chimed in with some rumor he heard at the airport.

All i'm going to say is that you continue to prove my point...

Whatever. What point?? Is this the best you can do to defend your point of view? Where are the proven facts that I asked for? Can you state that anything at all that he has said can be proven as a fact? It's just theories based on B.S. Believe it if you want to. Maybe next we can debate the legitimacy of the Wilcock/Fulford circus as if it were true as well.

[13th Warrior]

It's just theories

Maybe you should re-read my original post?