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    I have not watched the whole interview with Stan Meyer that Hughe posted, but the possibility of using water as a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gases is outstanding. But even though water seems to be a powerful fuel, isn't it true that it is as much in scarcity as oil is, or will be in very short few years?
    than maybe it is safe to assume that this kind of 'solution' (although somewhat surprising) is only temporary, it can help with the extremely high prices of petrol, if its saving up to 30-40% from gas bill. Also, evidently, it is much more 'user friendly' than petrol, but it is still not solving the problem of depleting our planet earth from its natural resources.

    Here is another video in relation to water -




    A little more than a year ago, I read a 'special disclosure' news item about 'cars that are driven on water in Israel', On the 'Different truth project' website. It recieved the interest of many people. Apparently, an 'anonymouse' person is already using this type of car and he than 'blow the whistle' to other drivers with specific technical instructions on how to install this kind of device (ordered via the internet) with only an average technical knowledge needed.

    It was picked by television and they broadcasted an item about it, the websit founder Niv Dor cohen, has expressed on TV that "there are very strong corporations, oil corporations, distilleries and also the governments that are profiting an extremely large amount of money, milions and milions from petrol taxes, and they don't have an interest that the public will benefit from this device for a simple and easy use". I know he is still alive as I have been in touch with him last week

    It seems there are quite a few that are wondering around with this device affixed in their cars, and it's only attracting more and more intrest, wether it's legal or insured or not.
    An ear to mouth deliverence should not be underestimated. But as Wade indicated, there is no time for this very slow dissemintation.


    Good luck with the 'storm' Wade, I hope that you are now safely settled down in your new Home.
    One thing cought my attention, and I can't help myself and have a need to ask:

    Quote Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " My brother lives in a tree"
    I probably needed to attend more of the English classes at school , but did you by any chance mean "On a tree?", "Near a tree?", Maybe "in a tree house?"
    Mmm... :-)
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    Hi Limor,

    I think you got it right with the water!

    Yes, is much different than oil, easier to extract, and less pollution, but it's still scarcity based. With the current run on "water rights" (which I read made illegal in US to store rain water!), it clearly shows how the "scarcity game" is alive and well with regards to water too!

    Free energy would dwarf water, waves energy, wind and geo-thermal and so on... When compared to true free energy tech these are just noise to keep humans hacking at the branches and not going nowhere near the root.

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    Speaking of 'free' energy cars...there was a car developed in France that runs on compressed air. They were being sold in Europe but not allowed to be sold in the States. This was in 2003-2004 that I became aware of them via the 'net, of course. The videos on the car explained the elegant simplicity of the concept, the extremely low number of mechanical parts needed to operate the car; it's safety; it's pennies per mile cost of operation; its relatively low sales cost, around $14,000. And of course not a peep about it in the U S of A media...

    Here's a video about the car: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uVIwropRMME

    Here's a website for a compressed air car allegedly to be marketed in the U.S. (note the date)
    http://www.gizmag.com/compressed-air...-in-2010/8896/

    The latest development on the concept is that a company in India plans to produce one
    http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/17/...india-in-2012/

    So this would be a terrific new industry to pump a bit of life and air back into Detroit, imo, but apparently the concept has been pretty much buried here...
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    Oh, and the car has a zero-pollution factor

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    Hi Hughe:

    I don’t keep up on it much, but I think that Stan knew Dennis. Stan allegedly got the $1 billion dollar offer from Arab interests to go away:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#_edn2

    The problem with deaths like Stan’s is that sometimes deaths like his are from natural causes, but Godzilla is expert at making murder appear to be natural causes, suicides, accidents, and random crimes. It is kind of like in the USA where Democratic politicians are about ten times more likely to die in plane crashes than Republicans are. What a statistical anomaly!

    Hi Limor:

    That clip is about Brown’s Gas:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

    We have made FE inventors’ threads if people want to kick that stuff around.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post358844

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...665#post431665

    There is lots of chaff in the FE inventor milieu. Most of the FE stuff that you see out there is not valid. The good stuff is taken out of circulation almost immediately. It could well be that what we see in the public FE scene is the chaff, the mine tailings left over after Godzilla removed the gold nuggets. That is partly why I do not pay much attention to FE tinkerers and that milieu. Been there, done that.

    My brother lives in a tree house, to be more precise.

    Hi Sunnyrap:

    Compressed air cars may be environmentally more disastrous than gasoline cars. The air is compressed by electricity, which is generated by burning coal in the USA (or nuclear fission), which is a catastrophe on several fronts. Part of my upcoming essay is intended for non-scientists, so they can begin to understand how the world really works. The media has done a great disservice to the scientifically illiterate by promoting hybrid cars, hydrogen power, air cars and biofuels as viable energy solutions, when they are nothing of the sort.

    Also, so-called water cars are not getting their energy from water. If they are legit, they are only using the water molecule to get at the ZPF. Not sure there are any legit ones out there, either.

    Folks, technology is the not the problem, and FE tinkerers are not the answer, not now. The day that a tinkerer with the goods gives it to a worthy group, I am going to get interested. I have never heard of that worthy group, and I never met the tinkerer with the goods willing to give it away.

    Going to bed now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    All of these tinkerer posts coincided with somebody sending me a link to a Bloom Box clip. These really emphasize why I am hoping to help people think comprehensively. That comprehensive thinking extends to many facets of the issue, including where our energy comes from today, including the Godzilla effect, including how energy shapes our existences, including how useless the mainstream media is, and including what FE can mean. Otherwise, newbies go haring off in all sorts of directions, with none of them being productive. Here are some of those unproductive directions that I see all the time.

    1. Thinking that some technology that wrings more energy out of fossil fuels is some sort of solution (that was my initial orientation, long ago http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse);

    2. Thinking that they can go into their garage and make an FE device (some have: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet, but it is a lot harder than it looks, and none of those are ready to power a house);

    3. Thinking that they cannot only make a market-ready FE device in their garage, but they can sneak past Godzilla to the public with it (I call it Level7: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level7);

    4. Thinking that people can be stampeded toward FE (I call it Level 10: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10, and I tried that with Dennis more than once – you can’t outmaneuver the master shepherd);

    5. Thinking that the new tinkerer on the scene “Has it!” I get bombarded with those, even after I ask people to stop bombarding me. The entire tinkerer approach is a loser. It is like trying to build a Pentium chip in your garage with parts that you bought at the hardware store. People like Adam Trombly, who had many millions of dollars at his disposal, got something going, and he gets to survive a murder attempt a year and then have the federal government seize what he makes. Some people can play the game if they want to risk their lives, but for every contender in this milieu, there are a thousand pretenders.

    Those are all newbie reactions to the FE issue. This thread has been bombarded with them. When I get that invitation-only forum going, it will be a No-Newbie Zone. If any member starts haring off in those directions, they will be corrected, and if they persist, they will be removed from the conversation. If that happens, it means that I failed in my invitation process. I will be going for quality over quantity.

    I am aiming far higher than those knee-jerk reactions. Some of the best there ever were have sacrificed their lives on this issue, going back a hundred years. There are no quick, easy answers. If enough people woke up, it would be easy, but waking up is the hard part, in a world of scarcity.

    Going off to work now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    One last thing before I go off to work. In all the fringe topics, whether it is alternative archeology, alternative physics, what is happening at Godzilla’s level, and so forth, there is far more chaff than wheat floating around out there in public discourse. I see disinformation recycled constantly. People close to me eat heaping plates of chaff every day, and think they are eating wheat. Stuff that was debunked ten years ago (and validly debunked, not in organized skepticism style http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends) keeps getting recycled in tabloid style. In these realms, I have found very few people who can maintain an open yet skeptical mind, and can think critically. What I find, all the time, is people being fascinated with the talking heads of the fringes, uncritically repeating pronouncements or startling “finds” that upon further inspection simply do not hold up. I will not name names, but those names dominate in alternative forums.

    Brian O and I interviewed with Bill and Kerry, but that does not mean that we endorsed the validity of any other Camelot witnesses. Playing the science game is not easy. Playing the disruptive energy technology game is life-threatening. Investigating issues such as the JFK hit:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

    are not subjects for quick-study artists. None of those issues can be solved by surfing the Internet for a few minutes, getting a few books by the latest fringe voice, etc.

    If the Federal Reserve conspiracy theories are true, then what? Money and banking are the tail of the dog. The real economy runs on energy and always has. The money and banking game is just accounting. Many dirty games are played at those levels, just like with all the other elite games. But keeping everybody’s eyes off the ball, which is the energy issue, and the FE solution, is what Godzilla’s game is all about. All the rest is merely a sideshow.

    Going to work now.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Wade, you are great at seeing the larger picture having studied it for years. Do you have a write up on the downside of the air car concept? It seemed to me on the surface that 1.50 worth of electricity (which I'm guessing could be solar-gathered) to fill a compressed air tank would at least be a step up from what we now have. Plus their other advantages. It also occurred to me if you had a built in small compressor that added air as your solar collectors had stored enough charge to run it would give you a kind of perpetual energy generator. This is just imagineering on my part and not based on any calculations, of course. Do you think it might be worth a try for some gearheads building a golf cart on this concept?

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    Hi Everyone,

    I know it is not easy to accept feeling powerless in some ways and that any ray of hope for a better future can send one running down the rabbit holes being facilitated all over the alternative community.

    I for one "know" that there will be no wonder FE device being introduced any time soon as Godzilla is far from ready to let go of the power. It is important to research and learn but it is also important to gain skills in discernment of the information out there. Recognize that there is more talk about FE than ever before, so energy saving devices that are not FE will be publicized to deter or detour the talk of FE or heaven forbid a demand for the release of FE.

    Most if it is just content that adds to the big picture of deceit. Once one accepts that we live in a world full of deceit, it is time to look within for our own power and start to take responsibility for our own sense of integrity.

    What is personal integrity to you and how are you working on this aspect of your life (as this is what will change the world we live in)??

    IMHO this is the rabbit hole we all need to go down and explore most of all. Finding compassion and love for all of oneself grows ones personal integrity and this LOVE Energy is what will change the world.
    Love and Light Always/Sandy

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    Wade, you are great at seeing the larger picture having studied it for years. Do you have a write up on the downside of the air car concept? It seemed to me on the surface that 1.50 worth of electricity (which I'm guessing could be solar-gathered) to fill a compressed air tank would at least be a step up from what we now have. Plus their other advantages. It also occurred to me if you had a built in small compressor that added air as your solar collectors had stored enough charge to run it would give you a kind of perpetual energy generator. This is just imagineering on my part and not based on any calculations, of course. Do you think it might be worth a try for some gearheads building a golf cart on this concept?
    Hi Sunnyrap,

    Only two posts above your own Wade has already expressed his views on the matter

    To re-iterate, technology is not the problem. Technology has not been the problem for some 100+ years. Even if such a car would work, it does not matter. In this case only the big leap matters: bringing free energy to the market. And that would change everything, in radical and marvelous ways. The rest is just noise meant to keep us busy hacking at the branches

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    The thread is about 'free energy' and what I'm referring to seemed as close to free energy as is practicable at this moment, so if I'm missing the point or a point according to you, perhaps we should rename the thread: 'how to create a positive socio-political environment that allows us all to have free energy', or 'what is the next big leap in 'free energy' and how do we get there? (I'd intended to go on to bring up the jump room technology that I've heard exists and is being used, but by the reckoning you imply, even that is still 'technology'.) Since my sideways post didn't communicate it, I'll state that I am fully aware that the problem is socio-political on the surface--conscious awareness/development at source. But its been my experience that people come to awareness incrementally, each step building on the past and including it before real paradigm shifts are achieved. And that our available technology is a reflection of that. We rush the process and skip steps at our peril. I believe that is why there are so many 'healing' technologies being created and implemented at this time--there is a huge rush to catch up with available technology.

    Btw, I shudder to even consider the availability of jump technology or even 'whole body remote viewing' having widespread availability at this moment when I consider how seriously uncentering it is to have an antagonistic presence pop into your consciousness on this forum, much less show up physically.

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    Hi sunnyrap and Ilie:

    Even in my earliest days of this game, I always asked, “Where is the energy coming from?” If the ultimate source is not sustainable, it is only a stopgap measure at best. Solar energy powers all ecosystems, with the possible exception of thermal vents on the ocean floor, where extremophiles live. The energy in wood, oil, gas, crops, whale oil, coal, wind, hydroelectric, and so on, all comes from captured solar energy (our oceans only exist because photosynthesis created enough oxygen in the atmosphere so hydrogen could not escape to space - otherwise Earth's surface would look a lot like Mars's). Even nuclear fission comes from the energy of collapsing stars, at least in conventional theory.

    You are bringing up big subjects, and maybe it would help to state my intention for this thread and how I see stuff like air cars.

    My initial orientation was getting more energy out of a gallon of gasoline:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

    I did not hear the “make your funeral plans” observation:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#funeral

    at age sixteen, but I clearly recall thinking that entrenched interests would be against something like a car that got 200 MPG and did not pollute much. Then my wild ride soon began, which started with going to Europe:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

    and having my mystical awakening:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

    and a few years later a voice in my head told me to change my studies from science to business:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

    Part of me looks back and wonders if it all really happened, but it was all too real.

    And then my baptism by fire in the real world happened:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post406928

    which I now know was preparing me to meet Dennis, with the voice’s help:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

    Dennis also was not thinking in terms of FE when we met. His company was being annihilated because he was bringing 80% energy conservation to the marketplace:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

    which was a little more than the electric companies had in mind.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#science

    So, I am sympathetic to people wanting to take small steps in the direction of FE, but air cars are not even that. All that an air car really does is go from burning oil to burning coal, and putting the exhaust pipe at an electric plant. Coal is dirtier than oil, but there is more of it. There are plenty of talking heads out there who promote air cars and hydrogen power as alternatives to oil, but really only because they ultimately burn coal instead. I was just reading this yesterday:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-...omment-2315035

    Solar and wind just don’t cut it, especially when I know that FE exists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    Brian O originally thought in terms of solar and wind, but came to realize that they were too little, too late.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#udall

    What I have seen is that those promoting solar and wind or hydrogen “power” (hydrogen provides no power at all – it is just a way of storing energy, like a battery, unless we are thinking like Mills’s hydrino, but then we are talking about tapping the ZPF, not really getting hydrogen “power”) are trapped in scarcity-based thinking. I have seen that one a zillion times so far. The real smart ones I call Level 3s:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

    I can respect people who begin to understand the energy issue. Heck, my upcoming essay is intended to help educate people, in a comprehensive way, on the energy issue. But unless we are talking about a new energy source, I don’t think we are going anywhere. You would not believe all the crazed reactions I get when FE is brought up, from the Level 5 folks:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

    The Level 3s seem reasonable, but if you ever overcome their objections, they nearly invariably become Level 5s. When I saw that, I eventually realized that their awareness was rooted in fear, and part of what I was seeing was that they were hooked on scarcity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

    I saw so many reactions to the idea of FE over the years that I eventually put them into a framework:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    It is not the only framework that can be developed, but it is the one that I came up with. Time is short. When you begin to look at the numbers and take in the human predicament at this stage, it is easy to lose all hope and just wait for it to hit the fan. When the solution that makes virtually all of our problems go away, almost overnight, is so violently resisted by almost everybody who hears about it, you begin to wonder if humanity is truly a sentient species. Brian O openly asked the question in his last years, and I could see why.

    I have a very specific intention with my work and my Avalon threads. I am trying to get enough people to let go of their scarcity-based indoctrination:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    so that they can begin to just imagine FE, abundance, and a healed planet. Many people come to these threads with inventor-itis, scale-the-ramparts-itis, and other perspectives that have not proven productive so far. I had some threads created for people with those proclivities, but the threads keep going dormant. So, I keep getting FE tinkerer posts made to this thread, or people proposing completely conventional energy “solutions,” like air cars and the guy at TED. It is part of my patience training.

    Maybe I could start a thread on conventional “solutions,” where air cars, heat pumps, high MPG carburetors and the like can get kicked around. I have no interest in any of it. Been there, done that, and I am trying to do something radically different, something that I have never seen anybody else attempt, which is to help people think comprehensively and begin a stampede of sentient lambs. I call it Level 12:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    Does it have any chance of working? I would not bet on it, but in a way I am, because since 1990 I have been on this path, although it was not until relatively recently that my approach crystalized in my conception. I was groping toward it for many years, and it began to crystallize in about 2006, as I came out of my monster of a midlife crisis:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

    This is know: the physics behind FE devices blows the physics textbooks out of the water. I don’t kid myself that I am an FE scientist like an Adam Trombly or Sparky Sweet:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    Those guys had the really rough rides. Spear carriers like me got off relatively easily, but that is relative. The FE chase wrecked my life, and I don’t want to encourage anybody else to become FE martyrs. I already have enough blood on my hands.

    If people want to kick around air cars, hydrogen “power,” clean burning coal, high MPG carburetors, aerodynamic bicycles, novel solar technologies and the like, I can start a thread for it, but it will likely suffer the fate of the others. My intention is something very different than taking baby steps in the conventional physics “solutions” that are anything but viable answers. If people want to play in those puddles, it can help them in ways, but it can also trap them in conventional thinking and they can get inventor-itis, which can be a deadly affliction in the FE milieu.

    I finished Homer-Dixon’s book yesterday,

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...xon#post440998

    on my long bus rides from my new home (I love the long rides, so I can get more reading done), and his perspective is just like all the others who grasp the current energy situation and think in terms of conventional physics: the sh*t is going to hit the fan, and soon. Their only hope is that from the ashes of our collapsed industrialized civilization (if we do not suffer a catastrophic collapse all the way back to stones and spears after nuclear wars or similar events), something like solar or wind technology powers the next phase of the human journey. Is that stuff ever depressing to read, especially when I know how unnecessary such thinking is. The Level 3 people:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

    are actually the most unreachable of all, because they are smart, have had scientific training, and have drunk the Kool-Aid of the “laws of physics” and other lies. They are like really smart cult members, who can be the most difficult to deprogram.

    I have to run off to work now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    I have a very specific intention with my work and my Avalon threads. I am trying to get enough people to let go of their scarcity-based indoctrination:
    Merhan Keshe fundamental breakthrough concepts seem to open the way to this type of paradigm shift.

    From what I understand (after the lecture I attended on March 30 at the Keshe Foundation in Ninove, Belgium) Merhan Keshe would from now on be willing to pass the knowledge over to governments (any) and to Humanity.

    He also said that basically mostly everything lies in 3 his books and his published patents and should allow many people to duplicate his work in terms of FE (although he dislike the term) in the near future. So that he basically does not fear for his life. At least not more than you and me.

    He said that basically his energy and health discoveries are "just" by-products of his space technology R&D (space travels), a "little" bit like your cooking pan teflon is a by-product of NASA space technology. (My comment : Godzilla just happens to think the scope is different and is not so happy, and Keshe is fully aware of this).

    FYI, I will be assisting Merhan Keshe in the translation (in French) of the lecture he will be giving on April 29 in Namur, Belgium at the "Let’s get out of the cooking pot' event where I invited last week to join the group of lecturers (who had been scheduled many months ago). I am quite honored he accepted right away and happy the organizer has been willing to change the program at the very last minute.

    More info (in French) here: http://www.nouveau-monde.be/Week-end-avril-2012.html.
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    Hi Jean-Luc:

    Good luck with it. Kind of like China embracing Yull Brown, non-Western nations like Iran sometimes embrace people like Mehran. He seems to be getting into electro-gravity, which went deep black in the USA back in the 1950s. Wasn’t he whistling the “there is no organized suppression” tune not too long ago? Maybe I am confusing him with somebody else. Giving it away is step one. Then comes the hard part. We gave our FE ideas away, but found that nobody was going to pick up the ball and run with it, so we had to try. It is all far harder than it looks, but I wish him the best.

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    Wasn’t he whistling the “there is no organized suppression” tune not too long ago?
    Hi Wade
    I don't know. But certainly not after this happened:
    http://pesn.com/2011/01/15/9501744_K...pons_concerns/

    More on Mehran Keshe here :

    - http://keshefoundation.com
    - http://www.keshespace.com/
    - http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation


    Overview of his 3 books :

    - Keshe - 1 - The Universal Order of Creation of Matters - 2009 - 285p.pdf
    - Keshe - 2 - The Structure of Light - 2011 - 195p.pdf
    - Keshe - 3 - The Origin of the Universe - 2011 - 234p.pdf

    Not really a FE tinkerer, it seems...

    Thanks for your reply.
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    Hi Jean-Luc:

    I am about 99% sure that he is the guy I read an interview for when people mentioned him on this thread last year. He was dismissive of the organized suppression angle, saying something like all such activities showed was that humanity was not quite ready for such technologies. I am sympathetic with such a perspective, but to be selling rides to the moon on the back of that statement shouted “naïve inventor” to me, at best. I just finished reading some interviews with him, and about a dozen red flags went up. I have known scientists and inventors whose IQs went off the scale, and they were like lambs to the slaughter in the real world regarding this FE (or whatever term you prefer) stuff. Keshe may have discovered how some of it works the hard way, and lived to tell the story. His is a typical tale but, as I found, Godzilla might not have been involved at all in what he experienced. The jungle is filled with T-Rexes and velociraptors, too. When Bill the BPA Hit man made his move:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

    the bloody dynamic was one part provocateur, 20 parts greedy opportunists, and 200 parts the sheeple who follow them. I saw the same thing in Ventura when Mr. Texas made his move:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

    In the end, with the opportunists and the sheeple, it is their lack of integrity that makes the field fertile for the BPA Hit Man and Mr. Texas types to work their black magic. Bill was definitely on the payroll, and Mr. Texas likely was. I am more than half convinced that Mr. Skeptic is:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

    and Keshe’s interviewer in that link you sent is Mr. Skeptic’s good buddy, displaying naïveté on the interviewer’s part that would boggle my mind if I had not seen it so many times.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#nerd

    Many have come up with alternative (and often multidimensional) physics models like Keshe has (LaViolette, Bearden, Valone, Russell, etc., etc.). Theory is nice. Theory with working goodies, like Sparky and Adam had, is what they kill people over.

    That Keshe goes to lengths to stress his patents, keeping the innards of his technology secret, taking deposits when he says he does not need the money (so no need to take deposits!) and other things are red flags, if he is serious about making it happen. Open source is the only way to go in this realm, IMO. He makes so many big claims in so many areas, and has not delivered the goods for about any of it, despite repeated announced demonstrations that never seemed to materialize, it becomes normal to begin to wonder how real he is. Big claims; little delivery. Dennis has been talking like FE will be here next week for many years, and I came to dislike the entire approach. The entire inventor-hero approach does not interest me anymore, although it did twenty-five years ago. I’ll settle for him delivering on just one of his tall claims, and then the rest can come along leisurely.

    I highly doubt that Godzilla is going to let somebody like him to run loose with FE and the other technologies he claims.

    I’ll remain very skeptical, and we’ll see.

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    Hey Wade,

    I've spent many months now trying to educate two close buddies of mine about FE and all things related. They started off like me at level 0, and I have helped them gain an understanding that has them currently at a level 8 'level of awareness' (they believe that free energy exists but that it is hopelessly suppressed). I've not heard you speak about this level of awareness too much before and was wondering how it's possible to get someone from level 8 to level 12?

    Their conclusion to it all can be summed up as: "Well, what can you do? The whole thing is locked up, and it's highly unlikely that I will be seeing FE or any of its positive effects in my lifetime, so, there's no point dwelling on it. Next."

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    Hi Tyler:

    Here are the things that got me to Level 12 (I was never in Level 8 myself, even during the nightmare years).

    1. The Global Controllers (GCs) are only several thousand people, while the rest of us are several billion. At the policy-setting level, there are only a few hundred of them. At the tippy top are only a couple dozen, and you have never heard of any of them.

    2. We do most of their work for them, in our denial, addiction to scarcity-based ideologies, and lack of personal integrity. Those are all fear-based conditions. That is why I keep saying that love is the antidote.

    3. While they obviously have a great technological advantage, they know that the only way they can stay in control is to operate in the shadows. If enough people caught on, their game would not last long. Artificially-enforced scarcity is their biggest leverage point, and that rides on the energy situation. That is why they spend all that time and money to keep the lid on FE (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make).

    4. Their greatest triumph is not hiding in the shadows, but keeping the masses asleep. We do nearly all of their work for them, however. They are really more like parasites than predators, and they are cowards. The situation is very much like what Roads saw in that negative world, where the manipulators were only taking advantage of a situation that humans had created for themselves out of their greed and indifference (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade). In a sense, we deserve each other. It is time to change the game, but it can only be changed by love and true sentience.

    5. All FE attempts that have been made so far have been mounted in great ignorance and naïveté, and have catered to greed and other easy-to-defeat motivations (such as Young Warrior delusions of “getting the bad guys” http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors), or it has been the lone inventor-hero, and they are easy to pick off, one at a time. People like Keshe and Rossi do not have a prayer with their approach, if they are legit, unless Godzilla decides to allow it to happen.

    6. I know that FE already exists, and related technologies that could turn it into Heaven on Earth in short order (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground), and I also know that the GCs are fractured, with most of them thinking that this power game that is destroying the planet is not such a good idea anymore (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal). They have their survival enclaves underground and off-world (they actually want to terraform Mars when they wreck Earth, such are their grandiose delusions), but they are sobering up to the nature of the game they are playing, and saner minds may prevail at that level, but I am not waiting for it or counting on it. Don’t expect Godzilla to die in his sleep or become a vegetarian – it might happen, but counting on it is foolish.

    7. I have never been openly contacted by them, but Dennis has (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer), as have others in my circles, and they usually play a very subtle game. They are not about to come into the open and, like Napoleon, crown themselves. They may slink away if it looks like it is game over for their plans, and I really wish them the best on their journeys. All roads lead back to the Creator, and some just take the “scenic” route through very dark alleys of mind and spirit.

    8. The GCs’ entire game relies on the masses being asleep, with easily-picked-off lone rangers appearing here and there. For the herd’s size, the shepherd’s task is surprisingly easy. Most FE efforts self-destruct or are wiped out by local interests before Godzilla needs to lift a claw. We truly do most of Godzilla’s work for him.

    9. During my journey, I noticed all of those layers of the FE onion, and Levels 1 to 11 are all, to one degree or another, delusional (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1).

    10. On the entire planet, there must be at least 0.0001% of the population that is willing and able to see the big picture, can see the root and not get lost in the weeds, and just keep their eye on the ball. If enough attention is put onto what is important, and what Godzilla hopes that nobody focuses on, maybe that can catalyze the change and get us over the hump. Maybe that is my folly for thinking so, but I am trying to find out.

    Here is another example. These guys became Level 8s in the CIA:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#stockwell

    Ralph broke through that, but it wasn’t easy:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm

    Ralph is one in thousands at the CIA. I can provide many other examples:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    A person’s caring and desire for the truth has to exceed his/her desire for self-interest and comfort. Only one in thousands of people who are exposed to FE have what it takes to become a Level 12. That is not a judgment; those are just the numbers. I give plenty of information where people can find out for themselves, and begin to develop comprehensive thinking:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

    If you achieve Level 12, it is virtually guaranteed that you will not meet any others like you in your daily life. There are way too few who can get there, and that is part of the conundrum. For all of those levels below Level 12, people generally get stuck there, and it usually means that they have reached the limits of their integrity and cannot go any further. They will not move any further until an FE machine is delivered to their home, or they can easily go see one, just like with the masses in denial today:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    The path of wisdom is to recognize where they are and leave them alone. People cannot be dragged or enticed to Level 12. It requires an awake heart and mind, and nobody can do it for them. All that a Level 12 can do is be an example and point the way. It takes a great deal of hard work to get there. I learned these lessons that hard way, and hope to help others get past those pitfalls. I think, however, that most Level 12 aspirants have to fall into some of the pitfalls to begin to figure out that my levels are not just some theory, but the result of a forty-year journey so far, trading notes with people like Brian O, and watching the adventures of people like Adam Trombly and Sparky Sweet. A Level 12 realizes that almost nobody can really think like a Level 12, but they think (or, dare we say, hope) that if enough Level 12s can be amassed, it may create some harmonic effects that may be profound. This I know: nobody has ever tried what I am doing, and maybe because it is such a foolish undertaking.

    It is normal to want your friends, family and associates to wake up to FE’s possibility/reality/potential, but if you play that game, count on not only being rejected about 99% of the time, but you will also be actively attacked. It can be mind-boggling that something as beautiful as the means to Heaven on Earth can be treated that way, but all that the herd mentality can see are their niches of hell disappearing, and that scares them. They have adapted to their situation, and any change scares them.

    I played the Level 10 game with Dennis, more than once, and I saw how easy it was to defeat. Dennis incredibly still tries, and has admitted to me that he is sifting through the mine tailings of humanity, looking for gold nuggets. He has only found a handful in all his years of playing that game, and I wish him the best, but I highly doubt that such an approach has much of a chance, and it is an extremely dangerous game to play. Dennis has resigned himself to the likely fate that he will keep trying, futilely, to his grave, but he does not know how to do it any other way. My way is radically different than what he is trying. He is not really even aware of what I am trying to do. I am not saying that my approach has a prayer, either, but I am not asking anybody to risk their lives to do it. I am not looking for the hundred heroes, because there are not a hundred like this to find:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    Dennis is the only person I know of who can successfully complete that application.

    I am asking far less of those participating with me, but I think that there are more of them out there. Those who want to play the Level 10 game are advised to look up Dennis. I don’t know of anybody who has played anywhere close to the level that Dennis has played at. If nothing else, they can learn from his experience, but don’t count on being invited into the inner sanctum right after you meet him. I worked for free for months, then chased him across a continent, before I began to impress him. As his protégé, I saw how difficult and easily defeated our approach was, and it was life-risking activity. I don’t want to do that again, and can’t afford to. I only have one life to burn up on this stuff, but I do not know of a worthier cause, or one with more potential to transform the human journey. We stand on the edge of the abyss today, and it has everything to do with our energy practices and our egocentric allegiance to scarcity-based ideologies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    If enough of us can let go of our conditioning for long enough, and learn to sing the abundance song, even just quietly in our hearts, it may well be enough to catalyze the transition to something that looks a lot like Heaven on Earth in short order. I know that the tools to do it already exist. The problem is waking up to the potential, overcoming our conditioning, and approaching the situation with a healed heart. Again, it is far easier said than done, and only one out of thousands of people are currently fit for the task, but they are scattered across the planet. I am hoping to help round them up.

    I am not sure if that answered your question. Ask away, and I will try to zero in on what you are asking. It is an important topic.

    Going to work now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hey Wade,

    I know you’re a busy man these days so the detailed reply is much appreciated. I’ll just sum up my understanding of it as best I can.

    Basically, humanities greed, indifference and scarcity addiction needs to be replaced with a more caring, virtuous, and loving state of being combined with an abundance based mind-set.

    Those in Level 8 are very much sponsoring Godzilla’s agenda. I too sponsor it to a large degree, as it's very difficult/nigh on impossible to completely escape it, but a Level 12 ultimately cares far more about the situation than a Level 8 ever will. A Level 12 takes much more responsibility for their part in this mess and cares more about healing the planet as a whole. Level 8’s level of caring tends to operate on a part-time basis. From my experience, those in Level 8 do care about the truth and well being of the planet, but the problem is that for them, things like family, career and financial security take priority. They are ultimately more self-centered.

    My persistence with trying to wake people up to FE and all that comes with it is mostly to satisfy my own curiosity. I’ve read your warnings but had to try for myself, largely because I have nothing to lose in terms of career or otherwise, and from experience comes knowledge. Personal attacks are water off a ducks back to me. After a lot of spend time and energy spent trying to wake people up, I now understand why you say things like “…..the path of wisdom is to recognize where they are and leave them alone.” That time and energy is probably better spent elsewhere.

    It appears that Level 8 is as ‘high’ as I can hope to take anyone starting out at Level 0, and being stuck on Level 8 doesn't really help anything.

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    Hi David:

    Good summary. Accepting personal responsibility for the world we live in is step one, and there are a few facets of it, but accepting responsibility changes the perspective from a victim’s to a creator’s. I was at Level 0 when I met Dennis. Never heard of FE before, so people can go from 0 to 12, eventually, but my case was unusual. Everybody starts at Level 0. How many 0s can go to 12s? Not many, but I don’t want to write off everybody who has not heard of FE. In fact, I really don’t want to be part of the FE “community,” and am trying to reach out beyond it, to people who are currently unaware of FE. As Brian said, the people who will take FE over the top will likely be new to the field:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#new

    Part of the reason is what few in the field today really have the right stuff, and those that do, go through the meat grinder. But, for those who have heard of FE and are in Levels 1 to 10, what level they settle at says something about them. Most give the knee-jerk Level 1 denial and are done. The more thoughtful have the Level 2 response, where they ask their engineer relative if FE is possible, and when he laughs, that is the end of it for them, because an “expert” has weighed in. The brainy ones usually end up in Level 3, and they probably have the most entrenched denial of FE. You will literally have to place a running FE device in their hands before they will admit it is possible. Even after it runs their house for a few months, they will still have their doubts. That is because they have made the biggest investment in a worldview that denies that FE is even possible, and if it was, nobody could really suppress it. Ironically, they are the most disconnected from reality.

    Then you get the Level 4s who are happy to take an FE device, if you want to give them one. They actually like the idea of FE, and if somebody gives them an FE machine they would accept it. How helpful!

    Up to those levels, the person is probably guilty of being a little lazy. Few of them really have a thirst for the truth, not enough to chase it, especially through the often bewildering FE fields.

    Level 5:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

    may be where most people end up who get past denial of FE (the contest is between Level 4 and Level 5). That fear can really be something to behold. There is the Pandora’s Box fear, and I’ll not deny that some of it can be legitimate, but I eventually came to realize that I was seeing something else fairly often, and I came to call it an addiction to scarcity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

    the niche of hell stuff, etc. The levels past Level 5 are when it can get dangerous. Levels 6 and 7 are where inventors usually end up, and it can be heartbreaking to witness. Those are the ones who often end up as Level 13 casualties:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level13

    Then we get to Level 8s, who are, as you note, not really “into” the issue. Their typical reaction to FE is that if they can’t just have it just show up at their house, or make it happen on their lunch hour, it is not going to happen. There are various shades of all of those levels. Some Levels 8s got there by playing the Level 6 or 7 game and getting a snootful, if they survive the experience. Others just get there because they discover that some powerful interests oppose FE, and cede all power to them.

    Level 9s are delusional boys, usually, the kind who become cannon fodder in wars. Godzilla does not hang out his shingle or give out his home address. You don’t find him; he finds you, and he can play rough when he needs to.

    I am the most sympathetic to Level 10 awareness, like what Dennis Leahy brought up here a few times. But, I played the Level 10 game with Dennis Lee a few times, played it with Brian O, and saw the severe downsides to that approach. In fact, the NEM experience probably crystallized my Level 12 thoughts. People can’t really become useful in this realm unless they really commit to pursuing the truth, healing and so on. The few that I have met like me were all overgrown Boy Scouts:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

    That Dudley Do-Right attitude was more important than any other trait. Level 12s are going to be initiates. They are going to go deep. They will have a thirst for the truth, their hearts are whole, they are not going to settle for comforting fictions, and they truly want to make the world a better place to live in. They may even dare to imagine what a world based on abundance looks like:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

    and won’t get overwhelmed by the experience. If they are really foolish, they will actually believe that such a world might be feasible if FE gets into the right hands.

    People can say that trying to get folks up to Level 12 from Level 8 is a waste of energy. I don’t know if I would say that, but what I would say is that nobody can be baited or cajoled or deceived into Level 12. A Level 12 is going to go in with eyes wide open, and they are going to be deeply motivated. It is no place for pretenders, the lazy, etc. Look at the kind of effort that Ilie has put in at Avalon, for instance. He is no slouch. He does the work. Several times, he has obtained books I have recommended, or watched movies that I have mentioned, and has insightful things to say about them afterward. Ilie is the gold standard of what I am looking for. Heck, David, you spent months reading my site before you bombed in here at Avalon, and you keep thinking, keep asking insightful questions, keep gnawing on the bone. That is good work, and something that I rarely encounter. You are not laying your life on the line, but I don’t think that you have to, to reach Level 12. Plenty of experience is necessary, but not necessarily the life-risking kind, although the learning curve steepens insanely when you play at those levels, if you survive the experience.

    Keep it up.

    Best,

    Wade

    P.S. And the Level 11s are those who constantly try to steal Dennis's companies.
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