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    2 Hour Q & A with Drake and Teri

    but it starts at around 62 minutes....

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns



    It works now...
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    Default Re: Drake Q & A 2 hours...Must Listen :-)

    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    2 Hour Q & A with Drake and Teri

    but it starts at around 62 minutes....

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/12/jim-duensingfreedom-reigns

    Unfortunately, Link not working..?

    Try this one - http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/sho...ow_3005869.mp3

    Starts @ 63 mins...

    PS - Whether or not you believe in what Drake has to say, is up to your own 'Discernment'...

    But one thing he did say @ approx. 1.34.50 mins was this...

    Quote Drake Ouote: "I'm not going to confirm anything that Ben Fulford says, because he is not in the (Inner-Loop) at this point..!"
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    Default Re: Drake Q & A 2 hours...Must Listen :-)

    I'll add this onto my list of things to listen to.
    "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
    "Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."

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    TIM TURNER - A DEBATE CHALLENGE TO 'DRAKE'', TERI HINKLE & OTHERS with David Wilcock as Moderator

    Basic questions:
    Who is this guy 'Drake'?
    The Global Elite Powers have long used the strategy of 'Divide & Conquer'. Could this guy 'Drake' being used as a disinfo agent to further the hidden agenda of keeping the American people fragmented, divided & conquered?

    Rusa Round Table Conference Call
    Part1: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=57057
    Part2: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=57058

    http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1927161
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    TIM TURNER - A DEBATE CHALLENGE TO 'DRAKE'', TERI HINKLE & OTHERS with David Wilcock as Moderator

    Basic questions:
    Who is this guy 'Drake'?
    The Global Elite Powers have long used the strategy of 'Divide & Conquer'. Could this guy 'Drake' being used as a disinfo agent to further the hidden agenda of keeping the American people fragmented, divided & conquered?

    Rusa Round Table Conference Call
    Part1: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=57057
    Part2: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=57058

    http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1927161
    Finally got it up on youtube...

    Tim Turner Challenges 'Drake' to Debate



    Part1: http://youtu.be/Lg8RkVg9ILY


    Part2: http://youtu.be/NcAK8VYXHak


    Part3: http://youtu.be/WvKQ-Q04y7c


    Part4: http://youtu.be/WswSc7oavBA
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    I just can't bring myself to wade through "Tim Turners Take on Things".
    Anyone able to surmise why he's right and everyone else is wrong?
    Is he doing it for Jesus?
    Is Tim Turner anymore than "Controlled Opposition" as my gut tells me or is it just
    mild food poisoning as a result of poor dietary choices on my part?

    Maybe Turiya, whom I assume advocates for President Tim and R.A.P.,
    can get us up to speed?
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    i find it interesting that every now and then someone appears on the scene out of nowhere and a big hype is created around that person and their supposed insider info. we've seen it happen several times already - "charles", "brockbrader", you name them. most people seem to need their "messiahs" and so they are provided by "those in control".
    Among the blind the one-eyed is a madman.

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    I can't believe anyone would still be harping about Tim Turner as if his story held ANY water after the radio show yesterday where Terri went over point by point the longest list of reasons she dis-affiliated with him imaginable -- and who is also uploading a HUGE amount of data about it. Really, Turiya, are you Tim Turner or someone in the illuminaughty who shills for him?

    Drake starts out this show but speaks only briefly. Most of the show is Terri giving her testimony of what happened when she was affiliated with Tim Turner as an official for the State of Georgia, before and after she resigned. I totally believe her...!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns

    And since you have chosen to post this Tim Turner disinformation in another thread, I will also quote YvonneG from the last thread where you posted the Tim Turner propaganda:

    "If anyone one wants the truth about Tim Turner with evidence that will be posted after the call is over tonight, then they should listen to Teri on tonight's show on http://freedomreigns.us...I was in the republic...I know first hand stories about stuff from friends and now Teri has evidence that she is going to put up...recordings and all.

    "TT has never delivered on anything and I personally have caught him in many lies on the calls. I would recommend anyone who is just passing along hearsay and has not been personally involved to do your due diligence."

    -- YvonneG (from Thread topic Drake: Updates, Clarifications and More)

    From here on in I doubt I will respond to Turiya again. A waste of time.

    THE TRUTH SHALL ABIDE...!!!
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    Hi Avocadess I agree with most of your posts but I have one exception. Your use of the illuminaughty word. There is nothing naughty about what they do. That is a sweet and acceptable description. Why don't we use the word Illuminasty instead.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Hi Avocadess I agree with most of your posts but I have one exception. Your use of the illuminaughty word. There is nothing naughty about what they do. That is a sweet and acceptable description. Why don't we use the word Illuminasty instead.

    Stan
    *grin*

    Stan,

    That term that Avocadess was using was first coined by me 10 years ago in David Wilcock's old Yahoo-based forum, but I spelled it "Illoonynaughties" on purpose so that the sounds of that name can closely match "Illuminati".

    Back then Echelon was in full power, so we in the discussion forum were rather paranoid about typing in any sort of key words that could trigger any closer looks by the gummint spooks, so we altered many words to that effect.

    Google " Illoonynaughties " and you'll see my posts in several forums -- including the ATS forum that I got kicked out of -- using that term.

    But, yea, the term "nasty" fits very well, for sure.

    Take care, Stan,

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    Quote Posted by Blueskywalking (here)
    I just can't bring myself to wade through "Tim Turners Take on Things".
    Anyone able to surmise why he's right and everyone else is wrong?
    Is he doing it for Jesus?
    Is Tim Turner anymore than "Controlled Opposition" as my gut tells me or is it just
    mild food poisoning as a result of poor dietary choices on my part?

    Maybe Turiya, whom I assume advocates for President Tim and R.A.P.,
    can get us up to speed?
    I only listened to the first one and it was only about those who have left the 'fold' and are now speaking ill of them. That is, it is damage control. 15 minutes of my life down the toilet.

    As for T, it (no gender is given in its profile) seems to just want to give us an assignment. The same four vids have been posted in at least 3 different threads. No explanations either, just an assignment. I think such posting may not be following protocol either.

    Who knows, maybe Jebus is behind it. Jebus is the rapture dude and is very different from the liberating and inspiring Jesus. IMO
    Jebus appoints people to speak for him and give tithes and things.
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    I can't believe anyone would still be harping about Tim Turner as if his story held ANY water after the radio show yesterday where Terri went over point by point the longest list of reasons she dis-affiliated with him imaginable -- and who is also uploading a HUGE amount of data about it. Really, Turiya, are you Tim Turner or someone in the illuminaughty who shills for him?

    Drake starts out this show but speaks only briefly. Most of the show is Terri giving her testimony of what happened when she was affiliated with Tim Turner as an official for the State of Georgia, before and after she resigned. I totally believe her...!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns

    And since you have chosen to post this Tim Turner disinformation in another thread, I will also quote YvonneG from the last thread where you posted the Tim Turner propaganda:

    "If anyone one wants the truth about Tim Turner with evidence that will be posted after the call is over tonight, then they should listen to Teri on tonight's show on http://freedomreigns.us...I was in the republic...I know first hand stories about stuff from friends and now Teri has evidence that she is going to put up...recordings and all.

    "TT has never delivered on anything and I personally have caught him in many lies on the calls. I would recommend anyone who is just passing along hearsay and has not been personally involved to do your due diligence."

    -- YvonneG (from Thread topic Drake: Updates, Clarifications and More)

    From here on in I doubt I will respond to Turiya again. A waste of time.

    THE TRUTH SHALL ABIDE...!!!

    Thanks for quoting me Avocadess! The people at the top of this are extremist Christians. There is proof solid. I heard a recording Teri had of 4 or 5 talking about how they would determine a person's citizenship in the Republic when the time comes...a Buddhist, a Muslim, an Agnostic, a New Ager like most of us, would have to admit they were wrong. I had just come out of the republic a few days before and when I heard this I was sick. I have nothing against Christians, and Teri is herself a Christian, but we are talking really extremist. Anyone still doubting take a look at what Teri was going to have posted on the site. Haven't check but I imagine it is up.

    Blessings to everyone!

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    I can tell you from first hand experience that Tim Turner often made claims that were never true. One in particular was claiming that his movement had military backing. I was one of the original signers of the Declaration submitted to the Governors of each state and I can tell you that many of us signed based on his promise that we had this military backing. It wasn't until several months later, I believe it was the month of July, during one of the many calls I was on, that he back-peddled on this claim. To say that people were _ issed was an understatement. That was the icing on the cake for me and I walked away because I could no longer support a movement who's leadership was making dishonest claims. The constant in-fighting from both above and at a local level was disheartening to say the least. I'm glad for the experience as I learned much, but unfortunately what went on in this organization is the very reason we can't win. Out of control egos were ramphant and I am glad to say that I am no longer affiliated with the TT group. I met some good friends out of that organization and I will say that most involved, at least in our state had the best intentions in mind but unfortunately this movement ended up being the yellow brick road to no where.

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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    Quote Posted by Blueskywalking (here)
    I just can't bring myself to wade through "Tim Turners Take on Things".
    Anyone able to surmise why he's right and everyone else is wrong?
    Is he doing it for Jesus?
    Is Tim Turner anymore than "Controlled Opposition" as my gut tells me or is it just
    mild food poisoning as a result of poor dietary choices on my part?

    Maybe Turiya, whom I assume advocates for President Tim and R.A.P.,
    can get us up to speed?
    I only listened to the first one and it was only about those who have left the 'fold' and are now speaking ill of them. That is, it is damage control. 15 minutes of my life down the toilet.

    As for T, it (no gender is given in its profile) seems to just want to give us an assignment. The same four vids have been posted in at least 3 different threads. No explanations either, just an assignment. I think such posting may not be following protocol either.

    Who knows, maybe Jebus is behind it. Jebus is the rapture dude and is very different from the liberating and inspiring Jesus. IMO
    Jebus appoints people to speak for him and give tithes and things.
    Perhaps if all the forums involving "Drake" and Teri Hinkle were combined I would not have to do so much work.

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    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)
    I can tell you from first hand experience that Tim Turner often made claims that were never true. One in particular was claiming that his movement had military backing. I was one of the original signers of the Declaration submitted to the Governors of each state and I can tell you that many of us signed based on his promise that we had this military backing. It wasn't until several months later, I believe it was the month of July, during one of the many calls I was on, that he back-peddled on this claim. To say that people were _ issed was an understatement. That was the icing on the cake for me and I walked away because I could no longer support a movement who's leadership was making dishonest claims. The constant in-fighting from both above and at a local level was disheartening to say the least. I'm glad for the experience as I learned much, but unfortunately what went on in this organization is the very reason we can't win. Out of control egos were ramphant and I am glad to say that I am no longer affiliated with the TT group. I met some good friends out of that organization and I will say that most involved, at least in our state had the best intentions in mind but unfortunately this movement ended up being the yellow brick road to no where.
    Quote One in particular was claiming that his movement had military backing.
    Now you know where "Drake" is getting his claims from.

    From my window, this was the reason why RAP was told to get rid of Sam Kennedy. Sam had a bit much of loose lips over RBN radio, this made several of the behind the scenes military supporters very nervous for good reason.
    Then, later, RAP fell further into discord when there was talk of there wanting to be military coup operation involving the white hat military boys. RuSA was then born out the RAP elders having different opinions of how to next proceed.

    Make what you will out of what TT or "Drake" & Teri Hinkle are about. But you can be certain that the Founding Fathers didn't have an easier time with this.

    turiya -*-
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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    I can't believe anyone would still be harping about Tim Turner as if his story held ANY water after the radio show yesterday where Terri went over point by point the longest list of reasons she dis-affiliated with him imaginable -- and who is also uploading a HUGE amount of data about it. Really, Turiya, are you Tim Turner or someone in the illuminaughty who shills for him?

    Drake starts out this show but speaks only briefly. Most of the show is Terri giving her testimony of what happened when she was affiliated with Tim Turner as an official for the State of Georgia, before and after she resigned. I totally believe her...!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns

    And since you have chosen to post this Tim Turner disinformation in another thread, I will also quote YvonneG from the last thread where you posted the Tim Turner propaganda:

    "If anyone one wants the truth about Tim Turner with evidence that will be posted after the call is over tonight, then they should listen to Teri on tonight's show on http://freedomreigns.us...I was in the republic...I know first hand stories about stuff from friends and now Teri has evidence that she is going to put up...recordings and all.

    "TT has never delivered on anything and I personally have caught him in many lies on the calls. I would recommend anyone who is just passing along hearsay and has not been personally involved to do your due diligence."

    -- YvonneG (from Thread topic Drake: Updates, Clarifications and More)

    From here on in I doubt I will respond to Turiya again. A waste of time.

    THE TRUTH SHALL ABIDE...!!!
    I have listened to most of what Teri Hinkle has had to say, from the point where she talked about Tim's Homeland Security credentials. Will have to go back later and listen to the first part of it. One thing for sure is that there are going to be embellishments about what is actually happening on both sides of this aisle.

    But it cannot be denied that many people that have been part of early RAP & RusA got frustrated because of the lack of communication that was going on. Emotions throughout the different assemblies in the various States were running high. Florida, Oregon, Texas, Wisconsin & perhaps Minnesota were in particular having problems with egos being stepped on, and who was positioning themselves to be in control. My personal reason for backing away was because I felt that the Restore America Plan/RuSA was being used too much as a platform to promote the fundamentalist Christian 'Born Again' movement ideology.

    What you say about Tim is what I am feeling with this guy "Drake". The biggest thing for me is that Tim has always appeared to me to speak with words that seemed to resonate from his heart. And he has always been quite out in front with his past history of working (on the county level) with FEMA, https://youtube.com/watch?v=AKjQriec7JE#t=445s
    "Drake", on the other hand, will not come out and directly say that he worked for NSA. Where else would he get high level security clearances, as he has said in that Wilcock interview, for being involved with the nuclear defense of the United States?

    It may be true that Turner may still have FEMA credentials from those days, after all it was a county level position. Perhaps he held onto the FEMA ID as a souvenir/keepsake item. I suspect Tim will come back on with an response to all these allegations at some point.

    And, because people are waking up, I can't but get the feeling that the de facto USG is gearing up for a big showdown with those involved in re-inhabiting the Republic form of government. This is what SPLC & ADL have been moving towards http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1896272, and there was that 60 minute 'hit' piece that was done last year in attempting to connect certain violent incidents with the sovereignty movement. https://youtube.com/watch?v=BKFX5...eature=related

    The question arises: Is "Drake", a former NSA agent, part of a de facto USG project of going after those in the Sovereignty Movement? (Perhaps, he still works for that de facto government agency?) As it was said before, the Global Power Elite NWO have continuously maintained their grip and control over the masses by keeping them divided and at each others' throats. A job well done, Mr. "Drake". I am sure he will receive a good pat on the back by his superiors. "Drake" may not be aware that he may be simply being used as a tool by his Global Power Elite bosses whom he may be still working for.

    The big disappointment came at the end of that recent Freedomizer Radio thing is that after making these allegations, both "Drake" Teri Hinkle have categorically refused to have a debate with Tim Turner. Instead, Teri plans on slinking back into the shadows, I suspect "Drake" will be doing the same. A job well done? We shall all see.

    If you go through all those Tim Turner "America Can Be Free" seminar videos, you will see where "Drake" is getting his material from. Take a look and you will see where its coming from.

    I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.

    Best... turiya -*-
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    LMAO, it takes a borrower of other's work to sell it as their own research to present another of such quality. This is funnier and funnier. I do wish these threads on Drake were merged. I have no idea why we have to have several of them going at once. I just posted this on the other one:

    Drake is a word that has meant serpent or dragon, interesting isn't it? Probably means nothing though in this story, LOL

    Thanks for the story. I do find it so amusing that people accept the info from "Drake" as authentic and it's all based on his word ... oh and DW vouching for him. I am amused because regardless of how much you may like someone, when they make extraordinary claims it is up to them to provide extraordinary proof to be valid and not just another story. We demand truth based on evidence we learn of various events be they 911, Waco, Oklahoma city, Aids epidemic, Gulf a Tonkin and any number of claims made designed to affect public opinion. Here, we have nothing but a story and some in fighting between two groups, and no proof.

    Of course the very foundation of the story precluded the offering of proof for safety sake, but hey just sit back and wait... the arrests are coming. In the mean time, just remember all the other claims of "this is going to happen" and "That's going to happen" and all the times you have been told such tales and given dates by these same characters and where is the proof. Some lawsuit filed in court?

    We learned in my first law class that anyone can file a suit. I can sue you today because I don't like the color of your eyes. You can sue me because I hurt your feelings. It doesn't mean you will win, but yeh, go ahead, file a suit and make public accusations. It doesn't make it valid, and even if a suit is valid it does not mean you will win. The elites control the courts, they control the major media, they control the money, the government and they do what they please. You think we will win in THEIR friggin court?

    I know this really sucks. I know my views are not popular. I just wonder what would have happened if the internet had been around in 1776. Would Washington and Jefferson and the others have just sat behind a computer and talked and talked while new whistle blowers came up and promised that King George was going to be arrested or Aliens were going to stop the Red Coats from firing on defenseless people? We think we are so much more evolved and sophisticated and spiritual. Nothing happens in the real world unless people do it, and waiting for someone else to clean your house doesn't get it cleaned.

    Sorry folks, but this is nothing but more smoke and mirrors. It sounds great, it is known as false hope.
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    There is a huge difference between Drake and TT. TT had us sign a DSR or ASR with our names, witnesses and finger print!! Drake is not collecting anything and has no idea who we are. We are committing to nothing except to store food and necessities. That is not a big danger, but our names with finger prints...that is a different matter.

    Tim did not invent the information. The facts about what it all is just that. Because Drake says is similar to Tim means very little. Tim was not lying about a lot of things. And Teri, well, what do you know personally about her? She has not gone back into the shadows. She still has her radio shows and is working with people.

    Additionally, Teri has produced proof in actual calls with Tim and others of what she says. What should she debate Tim or anyone? If I tell you my name is whatever and I present my birth cerificate and photo ID what is the debate. I know well who Teri is, and Drake's name is his real name. We know is background.

    And by being suspect of Drake, you are suspect David Wilcoclk as well, and Deatra...NOW we all know who David is openly and Deatra as well, but we dont' even know if you are male or female. I also see that you are only post about TT. And you may followed this from the time they delivered the 50 notices to the states, but I was following from the very beginning and Sam Kennedy's first show announcing RAP. I was more than following I joined.

    You seem to be attempting very hard to discredit Drake and convince us. You say not to believe either yet, you do defend and promote TT with his roundtable calls. You are very obviously a follower of TT in many ways. But kindly do not insult us by saying : Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you. For someone who is not promoting TT, you surely are putting in a lot of effort in helping the rest of us "gullible" people.

    Perhaps you are the gullible one? Since you won't consider hard evidence that Teri has put forth in the voice of Tim and others from actual calls?



    Quote Posted by TURIYA (here)
    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    I can't believe anyone would still be harping about Tim Turner as if his story held ANY water after the radio show yesterday where Terri went over point by point the longest list of reasons she dis-affiliated with him imaginable -- and who is also uploading a HUGE amount of data about it. Really, Turiya, are you Tim Turner or someone in the illuminaughty who shills for him?

    Drake starts out this show but speaks only briefly. Most of the show is Terri giving her testimony of what happened when she was affiliated with Tim Turner as an official for the State of Georgia, before and after she resigned. I totally believe her...!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom...freedom-reigns

    And since you have chosen to post this Tim Turner disinformation in another thread, I will also quote YvonneG from the last thread where you posted the Tim Turner propaganda:

    "If anyone one wants the truth about Tim Turner with evidence that will be posted after the call is over tonight, then they should listen to Teri on tonight's show on http://freedomreigns.us...I was in the republic...I know first hand stories about stuff from friends and now Teri has evidence that she is going to put up...recordings and all.

    "TT has never delivered on anything and I personally have caught him in many lies on the calls. I would recommend anyone who is just passing along hearsay and has not been personally involved to do your due diligence."

    -- YvonneG (from Thread topic Drake: Updates, Clarifications and More)

    From here on in I doubt I will respond to Turiya again. A waste of time.

    THE TRUTH SHALL ABIDE...!!!
    I have listened to most of what Teri Hinkle has had to say, from the point where she talked about Tim's Homeland Security credentials. Will have to go back later and listen to the first part of it. One thing for sure is that there are going to be embellishments about what is actually happening on both sides of this aisle.

    But it cannot be denied that many people that have been part of early RAP & RusA got frustrated because of the lack of communication that was going on. Emotions throughout the different assemblies in the various States were running high. Florida, Oregon, Texas, Wisconsin & perhaps Minnesota were in particular having problems with egos being stepped on, and who was positioning themselves to be in control. My personal reason for backing away was because I felt that the Restore America Plan/RuSA was being used too much as a platform to promote the fundamentalist Christian 'Born Again' movement ideology.

    What you say about Tim is what I am feeling with this guy "Drake". The biggest thing for me is that Tim has always appeared to me to speak with words that seemed to resonate from his heart. And he has always been quite out in front with his past history of working (on the county level) with FEMA, https://youtube.com/watch?v=AKjQriec7JE#t=445s
    "Drake", on the other hand, will not come out and directly say that he worked for NSA. Where else would he get high level security clearances, as he has said in that Wilcock interview, for being involved with the nuclear defense of the United States?

    It may be true that Turner may still have FEMA credentials from those days, after all it was a county level position. Perhaps he held onto the FEMA ID as a souvenir/keepsake item. I suspect Tim will come back on with an response to all these allegations at some point.

    And, because people are waking up, I can't but get the feeling that the de facto USG is gearing up for a big showdown with those involved in re-inhabiting the Republic form of government. This is what SPLC & ADL have been moving towards http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1896272, and there was that 60 minute 'hit' piece that was done last year in attempting to connect certain violent incidents with the sovereignty movement. https://youtube.com/watch?v=BKFX5...eature=related

    The question arises: Is "Drake", a former NSA agent, part of a de facto USG project of going after those in the Sovereignty Movement? (Perhaps, he still works for that de facto government agency?) As it was said before, the Global Power Elite NWO have continuously maintained their grip and control over the masses by keeping them divided and at each others' throats. A job well done, Mr. "Drake". I am sure he will receive a good pat on the back by his superiors. "Drake" may not be aware that he may be simply being used as a tool by his Global Power Elite bosses whom he may be still working for.

    The big disappointment came at the end of that recent Freedomizer Radio thing is that after making these allegations, both "Drake" Teri Hinkle have categorically refused to have a debate with Tim Turner. Instead, Teri plans on slinking back into the shadows, I suspect "Drake" will be doing the same. A job well done? We shall all see.

    If you go through all those Tim Turner "America Can Be Free" seminar videos, you will see where "Drake" is getting his material from. Take a look and you will see where its coming from.

    I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.

    Best... turiya -*-
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    And sure Drake should show his face so that they find him and kill him? That makes no sense at all...

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    I pulled this from the Ben Fulford Cafe forum, to wit:


    "darylluke
    2 days ago

    John/Starfire,

    I may have missed this.If I have my apologies.

    Have you asked your extra-dimensional sources if this man going by alias DRAKE is telling the truth? He sounds sincere, and he gives some details, but seems vague about some specifics. Yet, he states the reason is security of those involved.So, I suppose that is understandable. Yet, NOBODY has any way to really verify ANY of his story. It seems we just have to trust him, which is the part that makes me suspicious!

    Could it be that we are trusting, waiting with out hands under our butts while NOTHING is actually being done?

    Almost sounding like just another CIA dis-empowerment operation!

    I’d really like to believe, and getting your guys’ upstairs input would go a long way in that direction for me & many others.

    Thank you! ;-)
    ~darylluke.
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    Sunfirereplied:
    2 days ago

    It’s SUNfire, not StarFire lol.

    The ET/EDs support the Oath Keepers and Pentagon which are behind this all together, Drake just seems to be “the mouth piece” for this thing. Do you ever go on Project Avalon Forum? There is a lady on there (sn) she’s got direct contact with several of the people involved in this whole thing and and other sources. She’s confirmed he’s telling the truth. And, so far at least my ET/EDs are saying this ‘uprising’ is happening and things are about to get “very interesting”. Details are being kept back for security reasons, even we have been keeping our lips zipped about some details about this and other things, and so have our ET/EDs. It’s for security purposes, and other connected reasons, including protecting the plan and those connected to it.

    How many of the interviews with Drake have you listened to? How many of the three most recent things connected to this that David Wilcock has put out have you read? Liens have been filed against 12 federal reserve banks, hundreds of political and ceo types have resigned, the papers have been filed with the Hauge. The Oath Keepers on their site have aligned with Drake.

    Hope this helps, and nice to see you back btw,
    Sunfire
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    Default Re: Drake Q & A 2 hours...Must Listen :-)

    Quote Posted by TURIYA (here)
    [Now you know where "Drake" is getting his claims from.

    From my window, this was the reason why RAP was told to get rid of Sam Kennedy. Sam had a bit much of loose lips over RBN radio, this made several of the behind the scenes military supporters very nervous for good reason.
    Then, later, RAP fell further into discord when there was talk of there wanting to be military coup operation involving the white hat military boys. RuSA was then born out the RAP elders having different opinions of how to next proceed.

    Make what you will out of what TT or "Drake" & Teri Hinkle are about. But you can be certain that the Founding Fathers didn't have an easier time with this.

    turiya -*-
    I couldn't tell you if Drake is getting his info from TT or not. I will listen, but no longer follow. Sam Kennedy was a problem. His ego I thought was out of control, quite evident when you listened to his talk show. This is typical and became a pattern for many within this organization not just Kennedy. Wanted to mention to you, that according to Drake, he's using his real name, it's not a cover name. He discussed this at length in one of the audio's I listened to not long ago....I think it was the audio on the White Hat Society's website.

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