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    Default Re: 'F' Kony 2012 - Start Paying "Attention" to "Obama Impeachment 2012"..!!!

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    All you'll see is 250,000,000 shoulder shrugs. People will only get excited when the food stamps bounce.
    Shutting down all TV service would get a reaction for sure.

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    Default Re: Obama administration indicts another whistleblower

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    Karma will have its handsome revenge at godspeed with all the ass clowns who run this corrupt organization we call a government. I will meditate upon this becoming fruition. I've had enough of this 3 Ring Circus Act to say the least. Nuff Said. There time is short. So be It.
    Karma is cool and it will catch up - but things are progressing too fast.

    The people must start acting

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    The Final Stage of Obama’s Dictatorship

    by David Christie -- on behalf of the national slate of [6+] LPAC-endorsed candidates for US Congress

    Be not deceived- Obama’s full frontal attack on the Supreme Court is nothing less than the final phase of his “Hitler dictatorship”. Obama has now effectively adopted the “fuhrerprinzip” of the Nazi legal theorist, Carl Schmitt.

    After Adolph Hitler murdered his political opponents during the “night of the long knives”, Schmitt authored a short, but concise justification of the Hitler dictatorship, in August of 1934, which stated that in a “…moment of danger he directly creates law by virtue of his leadership as the supreme judicial authority.... The true Leader is always also Judge. From the Leadership flows the judgeship.” The nature of Obama’s attack on the Supreme Court is to establish him as judge, jury, and executioner. It is the final stage in a process of his attack on due process, in both the detention policy contained in the NDAA, and the targeted assassinations of American citizens without trial.

    In a webcast delivered on April 11th, 2009, Lyndon LaRouche identified Obama as a carbon copy of the Emperor Nero. In that webcast, LaRouche elaborated that Obama is a Narcissist, not only as Nero was, but as Adolph Hitler was as well. In the past three years since that webcast, we have now seen LaRouche’s warning play out in Obama’s intense commitment to destroy our nation and the Constitution it is based upon, in his drive to implement a fascist dictatorship. We have seen his utter contempt for the separation of the powers contained in the Constitution by his attack on Libya, refusing to go to Congress for the authorization of war. He has even violated international law by ordering the assassination of the captured Muammar Gaddafi.

    But his latest violation of the separation of powers in the Constitution, concerning his attack on the Supreme Court, is the last step in this Hitler coup. He must be removed immediately through impeachment, or by the 25th Amendment. This violation of the judicial review process of the Supreme Court, and his attack on the “unelected judges”, has now finally caught the attention of those within the institutions who had said that LaRouche was “over the top” on both the Nero comparison, and Obama’s Hitler mustache. Impeachment is now being murmured through the halls of our institutions, with a House Concurrent Resolution (H. Con. Res 107) that has been submitted by Walter Jones in the US congress, putting impeachment squarely on the table.

    With a serious impeachment drive led by the National LaRouche Slate, the danger is that Obama will start a war abroad, to distract from his problems at home. However, any of the wars that start now, will not be limited to abroad. Any one of the global hotspots in Iran, Syria or North Korea, can set off a chain reaction process, culminating in thermonuclear war. Since the death of Gaddafi last October, LaRouche warned that the collapsing British Empire would use their puppet Obama to threaten Russia and China with thermonuclear annihilation, forcing them to forsake their commitment to true economic progress. The only way to stop this danger of a global thermonuclear holocaust is to immediately remove Obama.

    Once he goes, we can implement the platform of the National LaRouche Slate, and return to our Constitution. This platform must be seen as a single integrated conception, beginning with the restoration of Glass-Steagall to wipe out the British Imperial banking syndicate, and then a return to Alexander Hamilton’s policy for national banking. This return to our national banking system will restore our sovereignty, by ensuring that we can finance our own development, instead of relying on the dole of the international banking cartel. What gives credit, or credibility, to the US Dollar, is our commitment to develop the future, with projects like NAWAPA, that create a potential for growth that outpaces attrition by increasing the energy flux density of the system as a whole. Real economics is scientific and cultural advancement, and requires a sovereign banking system to promote that and give us control over our destiny.

    What constitutes the existence of the United States is each citizen’s participation in the core principles of our nation contained in the preamble- the general welfare, posterity and sovereignty. The intention of the system of checks and balances in the constitution is to ensure that our nation operates on these principles, not the momentary whims of a king or dictator. We have let Obama stay for too long. He must be removed now.

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    Default 4th grade teacher lets obama have it

    Hey Avalonians,
    I got this in my email just now. I have to tell you that I've wanted to do something like this a long time ago myself. The president has no reason to be proud of his accomplishments. (Really? How hard is it to destroy a country?) This teacher has had enough and has voiced her outrage. Maybe more of us should do the same, even with the outrageous and illegal NDAA hanging over our heads.... Personally, I don't think speaking your mind to any traitorous president warrants getting fired or any kind of punishment. In fact, she should be commended and promoted!
    So, here's the excerpt:

    Quote Subject: Fwd: 4TH GRADE TEACHER LETS OBAMA HAVE IT
    Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:13:39 -0400 (EDT)

    >A TEACHER FROM THE GREAT STATE OF MISSOURI WILL LOSE HER JOB FOR STANDING UP FOR
    >>>>>ALL OF US.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Give this teacher, a true American, a standing ovation.
    >>>>>This 4th grade teacher has said it all, and she was brave enough to attach her
    >>>>>name to it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The White House
    >>>>> 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    >>>>> Washington , DC 20500
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mr. Obama:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America . You are responsible to the citizens of the United States . You are
    >>>>>not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe ?
    >>>>>Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States ? This country was
    >>>>>founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not understand this?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia . You didn't show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect
    >>>>>they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia .. How dare you, sir!
    >>>>>How dare you!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>You can't find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you don't want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey . You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves. What's the matter with you? I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamedof yourselves, all of you.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them?
    >>>>>Anything? I seriously doubt it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't!
    >>>>>Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51
    >>>>>million not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms
    >>>>>destroying my beautiful country.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Sincerely,
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Every real American
    >>>>>
    >>>>>P.S. I rarely ask that emails be 'passed around'.................PLEASE SEND
    >>>>>THIS TO YOUR EMAIL LIST......it's past time for all Americans to wake up!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Ms Kathleen Lyday
    >>>>>Fourth Grade Teacher
    >>>>>Grandview Elementary School
    >>>>>11470 Hwy . C
    >>>>>Hillsboro , MO 63050
    >>>>>(636) 944-3291 Phone
    >>>>>(636) 944-3870 Fax
    >>>>>
    >>>>>This woman may lose her job for this letter. I believe we owe it to her for
    >>>>>expressing the outrage that we feel but fail to address. Please pass this on.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >



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    Default Re: 4th grade teacher lets obama have it

    Balls to the wall!! I commend this woman! Thanks for the thread, Maia! Perhaps, more people are slowly beginning to wipe the sleep out of their eyes than realized?

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    Afghan war whistleblower Daniel Davis: 'I had to speak out – lives are at stake'

    Soldier wrote detailed report claiming US generals 'have so distorted the truth … the truth has become unrecognisable'



    Paul Harris in Washington
    guardian.co.uk, Saturday 14 April 2012 11.20 BST
    Article history

    Lieutenant-Colonel Daniel Davis
    Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis claims US generals are lying to the public about the military campaign in Afghanistan. Photograph: Observer



    "I am – how do you say it? – persona non grata," said Lieutenant-Colonel Daniel Davis, as he sat sipping a coffee and eating a chocolate sundae in a shopping mall, just a subway stop from the Pentagon.

    The career soldier is now a black sheep at the giant defence department building where he still works. The reason was his extraordinarily brave decision to accuse America's military top brass of lying about the war in Afghanistan. When he went public in the New York Times, he was acclaimed as a hero for speaking out about a war that many Americans feel has gone horribly awry. Later this month he will receive a Ridenhour prize, an award given to whistleblowers that is named after the Vietnam war soldier who exposed the My Lai massacre.

    Davis believes people are not being told the truth and said so in a detailed report that he wrote after returning from his second tour of duty in the country. He had been rocketed, mortared and had stepped on an improvised explosive device that failed to explode. Soldiers he had met were killed and he was certain that a bloody disaster was unfolding. So he spoke out. "It's like I see in slow motion men dying for nothing and I can't stop it," he said. "It is consuming me from the inside. It is eating me alive."

    Davis, 48, drew up two reports containing research and observations garnered from his last tour. He was not short of material. As part of his job he had criss-crossed the country, travelling 9,000 miles and talking to more than 250 people. He had built up a picture of a hopeless cause; a country where Afghan soldiers were incapable of holding on to American gains. US soldiers would fight and die for territory and then see Afghan troops let it fall to the Taliban. Often the Afghans actively worked with the Taliban or simply refused to fight. One Afghan police officer laughed in Davis's face when asked if he ever tried to fight the enemy. "That would be dangerous!" the man said.

    Yet at the same time Davis saw America's military chiefs, such as General David Petraeus, constantly speak about America's successes, especially when working with local troops. So Davis compiled two reports: one classified and one unclassified. He sent both to politicians in Washington and lobbied them on his concerns. Then in February he went public by giving an interview to the New York Times and writing a damning editorial in a military newspaper. Then – and only then – did he tell his own army bosses what he had done.

    Davis pulled no punches. His report's opening statement read: "Senior ranking US military leaders have so distorted the truth when communicating with the US Congress and American people in regards to conditions on the ground in Afghanistan that the truth has become unrecognisable."

    The report detailed an alarming picture of Taliban advances and spiralling violence. Afghan security forces were unwilling or unable to fight, or actively aiding the enemy. That picture was contrasted with repeated rosy statements from US military leaders. His classified version was far more damning, but it remains a secret. "I am no WikiLeaks guy part two," Davis said. He foresees a simple and logical end point for Afghanistan – civil war and societal collapse, probably long before the last US combat soldier is scheduled to leave. He says the Afghan army and police simply cannot cope and the US forces training and working with them know that, despite official pronouncements to the contrary. "What I saw first hand in virtually every circumstance was a barely functioning organisation often co-operating with the insurgent enemy," Davis's report said.

    The document was also damning about the role of the US media in reporting the war. Ever since Vietnam, generals have slammed the press as a potential danger to military operations, but Davis's report lambasted journalists for failing to question the official army line. He said the media were obsessed with getting "access" to military bases and generals and tempered reporting in order to maintain that situation. "Most of the media just takes the talking points and repeats them," he said.

    Davis has not been officially sanctioned – because his classified report remains secret, he broke no law – and the military has not set out actively to condemn him. Instead there has been a muted official response, while privately, Davis said, many colleagues have congratulated him for speaking out. Yet he is now experiencing a strange end to a military career to which he devoted his life. It included serving in Germany, both Iraq wars and then two tours in Afghanistan. He said it gave him pride and a sense of purpose in doing a greater good.

    "I loved the army. There was nothing I have ever wanted to do more than this job since I started as a private back in 1985," he said. That is a very all-American sentiment, but then so is Davis's background. He was born the son of a football coach and grew up in Dallas, Texas. He is a born-again Christian who sings in a church choir. He said the decision to go public involved heavy "soul-searching".

    It has also made any future career advancement highly unlikely. "Maybe no one will listen, but I would not be able to sleep if I made no attempt," he said.

    What Davis wants – and what several politicians are lobbying for – are congressional hearings on the issue. He wants the generals grilled on his report and on how their comments compare with the evidence. But that needs the support of party leaders such as Democratic senator Harry Reid or Republican House speaker John Boehner, and that seems unlikely because such hearings would be a political minefield.

    This only serves to infuriate Davis. "Wouldn't you want to know the truth when you are making a war-and-peace decision?" Does he have any regrets? "There has never been a fraction of a question as to whether I did the right thing," he said. "Lives are at stake."

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    Default Re: Obama administration indicts another whistleblower

    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Karma will have its handsome revenge at godspeed with all the ass clowns who run this corrupt organization we call a government. I will meditate upon this becoming fruition. I've had enough of this 3 Ring Circus Act to say the least. Nuff Said. There time is short. So be It.
    WF, I love the positivity, but... I don't understand why you think their time is short... There's nothing I've seen that shows there is any hope. I get the spiritual argument, that we are all one and so on, but I just can't get myself to meditate in the closet while people all over the world are slaughtered.

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    This should be very interresting for whisleblowers, and whether the mainstream attack him
    or ignore him ....

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    Default Re: Obama administration indicts another whistleblower

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Jul...-week-20120414

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    Julian Assange show debuts next week
    2012-04-14 12:39


    April 13 - Wikileaks founder Julian Assange will launch his new TV talk show on Russia Today on April 17, but is keeping the guest list secret, the Kremlin-funded English language station said on Friday.

    Assange, who is under house arrest in England fighting extradition to Sweden for questioning on an alleged sexual assault, filmed "The World Tomorrow" show from Britain.

    Russia Today (RT) said in a news release that it would not release the guest list in advance, but said the first interview would prove controversial.

    "We do not want to kill the buzz and the intrigue by revealing the name of the first guest," said RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan.

    "But I have no doubt that this particular guest and this interview will lead to calls to shut us down from some especially hawkish personalities who have little respect for freedom of speech," she added.

    Australian-born Assange said in a statement he would be talking to people "who normally simply would not be given a voice on TV at all. What is fair to say is that the majority of what they have said to me they could not say on a mainstream TV network."

    Russia Today is considered a key Kremlin exercise in image enhancement by critics. It is beamed to some 430 million subscribers worldwide and it also streams online.

    Assange's new show will be broadcast simultaneously from Moscow and Washington DC, in English, Arabic and Spanish.

    Assange said April 17 marks the 500th day since financial transaction firms like Visa, Mastercard and Paypal began to refuse working with Wikileaks after it published a raft of secret US diplomatic cables in late 2010.

    The blockade has crippled the organisation's ability to fund itself and continue its work.

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    CNN has put up a article , but no other mainstream yet .....

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/14/wo...aks/index.html
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    Thanks Cidersomerset

    S(hades) of Vietnam when General Westmorland announced that he gauged success by "body count"
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    I agree TPTB learnt their lesson from Vietnam and have kept the press mainly at bay.....

    but this vid got out which you may have seen about British troops fighting with stoned Afghani troops...



    http://www.military.com/video/operat...1268927609001/

    The Americans are having the same problem...



    The reasons for going in imho were to reopen the popyfields almost closed down by the
    Taliban, establish the trans Caspian sea oil/Gas pipeline which negotiations for had stalled
    prior to the invasion, and to tighten the noose around Iran ,,,,,,
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    Craig Murray ...Whistleblower......

    Former UK embassador to Uzbekistan...


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    Default Obama giving oil-rich Alaska islands to Russia

    This is just one more action done by our President thumbing his nose at American's who have been wanting to drill oil in Alaska. What do you think Russia is going to do with this land? Who gave Obama the authority to do any of this? Obama is a traitor and communist lover. He is betraying America, and just a week ago it was reported that he told Putin to back off until after the election when he would be much more free to make deals.

    OH NO WE CANNOT DRILL BABY DRILL IN AMERICA, BUT RUSSIA WILL SELL BABY SELL THE OIL RIGHT BACK TO US!


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    (WorldNewsTribune) Obama’s State Department is giving away seven strategic, resource-laden Alaskan islands to the Russians. Yes, to the Putin regime in the Kremlin. … The seven endangered islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea include one the size of Rhode Island and Delaware combined. The Russians are also to get the tens of thousands of square miles of oil-rich seabeds surrounding the islands. The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake.



    The State Department has undertaken the giveaway in the guise of a maritime boundary agreement between Alaska and Siberia. Astoundingly, our federal government itself drew the line to put these seven Alaskan islands on the Russian side. But as an executive agreement, it could be reversed with the stroke of a pen by President Obama or Secretary Clinton.


    The agreement was negotiated in total secrecy. The state of Alaska was not allowed to participate in the negotiations, nor was the public given any opportunity for comment. This is despite the fact the Alaska Legislature has passed resolutions of opposition – but the State Department doesn’t seem to care.


    Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/obama-m...lands-giveaway

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    Default Re: Obama giving oil-rich Alaska islands to Russia

    i don't know about anyone else, but my head is just pounding from all this garbage. will it ever end?

    "The agreement was negotiated in total secrecy. The state of Alaska was not allowed to participate in the negotiations, nor was the public given any opportunity for comment. This is despite the fact the Alaska Legislature has passed resolutions of opposition – but the State Department doesn’t seem to care."

    apparently not negotiated secretly enough...... something has to give here pretty soon. what will it take?
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    The agreement was negotiated in total secrecy. The state of Alaska was not allowed to participate in the negotiations, nor was the public given any opportunity for comment. This is despite the fact the Alaska Legislature has passed resolutions of opposition – but the State Department doesn’t seem to care.
    Since when do dictators care?

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    Default Re: Obama giving oil-rich Alaska islands to Russia

    We have a few threads about Putin (some people think he's on the good side - I don't discount this POV) ... so I think there's more to this story than we think.

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    Default Re: Obama giving oil-rich Alaska islands to Russia

    A little research, perhaps?

    Bennett Island is part of the Sakha Republic administrative division of Russia.

    In 1916 the Russian ambassador in London issued an official notice to the effect that the Imperial government considered Bennett, along with other Arctic islands, integral parts of the Russian Empire. This territorial claim was later maintained by the Soviet Union.

    Some U.S. individuals assert American ownership of Bennett Island based on the 1881 landing. A resolution of the Alaska State Senate in 1988 supported this claim. However, the United States government has never claimed Bennett Island, and recognizes it as Russian territory. In 1994, the Alaska State Supreme Court ruled in D. Denardo v. State of Alaska that Bennett Island, along with several islands, is not part of Alaska.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennett_Island

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    A quick look at the World News Tribune website, at least the few times it's servers successfully served the web pages, makes it appear to be a Republican-cheerleader rag, praising Romney, who is no better and likely worse, etc.

    I am as upset with Obama's bait and switch results as likely anyone who believed in and voted for him, but this does not appear to be a worthwhile source of news reports or editorials, in my opinion.

    Thanks to Hermite for an alternative view.

    Again in my opinion there is no healthy future in support of continued oil drilling in Alaska or any other pristine areas - that's speaking from the pocket of the Rockefeller-clan and other elite oil baron families that have worked to suppress the alternatives for so long.

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    Facts are facts and we are an oil based economy. American is being driven into the ground so to speak because we won't drill and therefore must pay the ridiculous costs the other nations want and watch as they fill their pockets with out money. Have all the "oil is bad" ideas you want and talk ill all you want about the nasty elites but that does not change the truth of the matter, and the truth is we could have 1.00 per gallon gas if we just drilled it ourselves. I don't care what bent a publication has if the information is the truth.

    We did NOT have to agree to anything with the Russians, but our traitor in chief made a deal. Spin that.

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    Quote A Romney-Ryan ticket is the Democrats’ worst nightmare, and it is our best shot at restoring the American dream.
    That is a quote from that rag. What a joke.

    Duality-inflaming false choices between Repugs and Dems has proven to be meaningless for any real positive change. Currently both parties have the same ultimate owners.

    Frank Zappa (a cynic I know) had it about right:

    Quote Government is the Entertainment division of the military-industrial complex
    "Drilling it ourselves" nearly ruined the Gulf. And no it has not returned to it's former state.

    More on this 'story' below (and no I don't consider factcheck.org always unbiased or accurate, but I think that image speaks for itself about the truth of this matter. I also don't hate on everything WorldNetDaily stirs up, because I agree with them that Obama's past is pretty shady/obscured and he probably was not eligible to be prez - not that that has mattered much in this elite-controlled society.):

    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/ala...land-giveaway/

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    Q: Is President Obama giving away several Alaskan islands to Russia?

    A: No. The U.S. has never claimed ownership of the islands identified in viral emails and websites. They lie far closer to the coast of Siberia than to Alaska.

    FULL QUESTION

    I am certain the following e-rumor is not true but could you please research the story surrounding it and print it on your site? Thanks.


    Subject: Losing a part of oil rich Alaska

    Get this – as usual it is being done quietly and most Americans are TOTALLY unaware of it.

    Obama Giveaway – Oil Rich Islands of Alaska to Russia. As a part of Obama’s war against U.S. energy independence includes a foreign aid program that directly threatens Alaska’s sovereign territory and your land and mine. Obama’s State Department is GIVING away seven (7) strategic resource laden Alaskan island to the Russians – yes tot the Putin regime in the Kremlin. Can you believe the nerve of this guy?

    The seven endangered islands to be given away in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea include one the size of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

    The Russians also get the tens of thousand of square miles of rich oil seabeds surrounding the islands. The Department of the Interior is on record of estimating billions of barrels of oil are at stake.

    This agreement was negotiated in TOTAL SECRECY. The State of Alaska was NOT allowed to participate in the negotiations, nor was the public given ANY opportunity for comment. Well certainly when Alaska found out about this they passed a resolution of opposition – but the State department does not care what their position is on this matter nor yours either for that matter. Yet it could be stopped with a draft of a pen from either Obama or Secretary Hilary Clinton. These islands have been a part of Alaska since 1881 and are the islands of Wrangell, Bennett, Jeannette, Henrietta, DeLong Islands, Copper Island, Sea Lion Rock and Sea Otter Rock. The later islands a part of Alaska since 1867.

    Now get this Russia did not ask for this territory as a part of the State Department’s new maritime agreement nor are we getting anything in return – we are just giving them away and giving a foreign country a closer step to our mainland.

    Apparently as usual our elected officials are not even aware of this happening. Let’s remind EVER member of Congress of this dealing underneath the table and to reject giving away a part of our 49th State. Your voice needs to be heard !!!!!

    FULL ANSWER

    A look at the map will give the reader some notion of the frozen “Alaskan” islands under discussion. All are far closer to the Russian mainland than to the Alaskan mainland. All lie on the Russian side of the U.S.-Russia maritime boundary set by a treaty that the U.S. Senate ratified overwhelmingly more than two decades ago, after being signed by President George H.W. Bush, and with the support of both of Alaska’s senators.



    The largest, Wrangel Island (in Russian, Ostrov Vrangelya), is named for the Russian explorer Ferdinand P. Wrangel, who heard of the island from Siberian natives as early as 1820. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, Wrangel did not land on it while mapping the Siberian coast that year. The first European to sight it may have been the British explorer Capt. Henry Kellett, who in 1849 discovered and landed on nearby Herald Island, and saw Wrangel in the distance.

    The uninhabited Wrangel Island was sighted by U.S. vessels in 1867 and 1881, but not settled. A Canadian explorer named Vilhjalmur Stefansson and survivors of a disastrous expedition reached the island in 1914. But when Stefansson later tried to claim Wrangel for Canada without authorization, he caused an international incident, infuriating the Canadian government. Then in 1926 the Soviet Union staked a claim to the island and settled a few native families there.

    According to a 1990 story by the Associated Press, Wrangel and four other uninhabited islands were surveyed in 1881 by a U.S. Navy commander, and for a time were listed in the “District of Alaska” by the U.S. Geological Survey. That’s about the extent of justification for calling them “Alaskan.” Neither the U.S., Britain nor Canada has disputed the Soviet (and now Russian) claim to Wrangel. The U.S. State Department says Wrangel and the others weren’t included in the U.S. purchase of Alaska from Russia in 1867, and “they have never been claimed by the United States.”

    Nevertheless, a crusading California activist named Carl Olson, of Woodland Hills, Calif., made it his business to claim that the islands are “100 percent American,” as the AP said in 1990. The organization Olson founded, “State Department Watch, Ltd,” is still pressing that argument today. (The group is a nonprofit advocacy organization that reported taking in $2.4 million in 2010 but spent most of it on fundraising, according to its most recent IRS Form 990. It paid Olson an $80,000 salary, made grants of $51,000 to the “1776 Tea Party” of Laguna Woods, Calif., and $9,500 to the “Minuteman Project, Inc.” of Aliso Viejo, Calif. But nearly $2 million was reported going for postage and printing. The group reports that it hired Virginia-based WJM Associates, a fundraising and marketing firm that lists several Republican and conservative groups as clients.)

    Despite Olson’s objections, the Senate ratified a treaty establishing the current maritime boundary between the U.S. and the Soviet Union (now Russia) on Sept. 16, 1991. The vote was a lopsided 86 to 6. Alaska’s senators, the late Ted Stevens and Frank Murkowski, both Republicans, voted in favor of ratification.

    But voting against the treaty were Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Chuck Grassley of Iowa and four other Republicans, led by the late Sen. Jesse Helms of North Carolina. During a very brief debate, Helms said he was fighting to “protect the status” of Wrangel Island and four others: Herald, Bennett, Henrietta and Jeannette Islands.

    The treaty did not specifically cede sovereignty over the islands to the Soviets (which the U.S. wasn’t disputing anyway), and merely clarified the location of the maritime boundary to settle squabbles over fishing and undersea mineral rights. Nevertheless, Helms said he would vote against it because “I doubt that the State Department will make use of the opportunity to press U.S. claims to the five islands — even though the right to do so is preserved.”

    (To read the full debate in the Congressional Record, search the Library of Congress Thomas website for the 102nd Congress, and enter “S13036″ to bring up the first page.)

    And sure enough, no president or secretary of state since has shown any interest in disputing the Soviet/Russian claim to Wrangel Island or the others. Which brings us to the present accusation that President Obama is somehow giving away something the U.S. has never claimed to own. How can that be?

    For one thing, the maritime boundary treaty has never been ratified by the Russians, which is required for it to take full force. By the time the U.S. Senate had ratified the treaty (signed by the Soviets the previous year), the Soviet Union was near collapse. Shortly afterward, the Russian Federation notified the U.S. government by diplomatic note that it would continue to abide by the terms of the agreement on a provisional basis, however.

    Ironically, in view of claims of a U.S. “giveaway,” it is the Russians who have sought to renegotiate the terms of the boundary treaty on grounds that their side gave up too much to the United States. A history of the matter, by Vlad M. Kaczynski of the Warsaw School of Economics, published in the May 1, 2007, edition of the Russian Analytical Digest, details why the new Russian Federation refused to ratify the treaty:


    Kaczynski, 2007: Many accuse Gorbachev and Shevardnadze of ceding Russia’s rightful fishing areas in their haste to negotiate a deal for signature at the 1990 White House Summit. “Russian parliamentarians understood perfectly well that the agreement infringed upon Russia’s interests and therefore the document has never been ratified by the Russian parliament,” these critics say. Other Russian officials have voiced their opposition to the treaty not only because of lost fishing opportunities, but also due to the loss of potential oil and gas fields and naval passages for submarines.

    Content to hang on to what the Soviet negotiators gave up, the U.S. State Department says, “The United States has no intention of reopening discussion of the 1990 Maritime Boundary Agreement.” However, since the treaty has yet to be ratified by the Russians, Olson and some on the right argue that the U.S. should still be pressing claims to Wrangel (Olson prefers to spell it “Wrangell” with two “l’s”) and other islands and rocks.

    The whole business was raised anew in an opinion piece published Feb. 16 on the conservative site World Net Daily (notable for promoting dubious claims about the president’s birthplace). It was written by Joe Miller, the Tea Party favorite who defeated Sen. Lisa Murkowski (daughter of former Sen. Frank Murkowski) in the 2010 Republican Senate primary, only to see Lisa Murkowski go on to win the general election handily as a write-in candidate.

    “Obama’s State Department is giving away seven strategic, resource-laden Alaskan islands to the Russians,” Miller wrote. “We won the Cold War and should start acting like it.” The following day, Miller posted an addendum to his piece conceding that he was raising “an old issue” and that he had been “assisted with this article” by Olson’s State Department Watch.

    It is an old issue indeed. In fact, World Net Daily itself published a July 29, 2008, article critical of the State Department for the “island giveaway.” Of course, George W. Bush — not Obama — was president at the time. (The Bush administration’s official Arctic Region Policy stated that the U.S. would abide by the 1990 maritime agreement and would continue to urge the Russian Federation to ratify it.)

    And we’re not sure why Miller mentions only seven islands when Olson always has insisted the U.S. has a claim to eight. But whatever the count, it is simply false to claim that Obama is “giving away” islands to which no U.S. president has asserted a claim for more than 85 years, if ever.

    – Brooks Jackson

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