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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.
    This is one heck of a post - what steps could we take, collectively, to achieve these goals (besides massive transformations in each of us)?

    One outcome would be a cashless society - how do we get there?

    All I know is - what we got now (and the direction it is headed) can hardly be any worse... even if these moves by the "good guys" are justonesteps - at least they are steps in the right direction.

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    Administratve or Judicial:

    The administrative procedures act was put in place to address grievances in commerce prior to any judicial process. Everything is commercial between creditors and debtors and the execution or breach of contracts. Contract law is very specific in its requirements, which are 4 in number, the meeting of the minds, full disclosure, an exchange of consideration by both parties and BOTH wet ink signatures on the contract. If there is a breach, then the aggrieved party must submit an administrative QWR (Qualified Written Request) outlining the breach, requesting ”proof of claim” as well as other relevant disclosures of the breach. All collection activities are supposed to “cease” until the controversy has been resolved. If the Administrative procedure fails to resolve the controversy, then the aggrieved party can move on to the judicial process. The judicial process has its own set of rules irrespective of the administrative, and they are not one in the same.

    Sovereign or Slave:

    Sovereignty has been suspended since the 1600’s with the formation of the Ecclesiastical trusts and the hypothication and surety granted to the Vatican via the Cestui Que Vie Trusts. Although there have been many attempts over the centuries to extricate from this ownership, all the nation states are actually “agents” of this original trust and are subject to it. The articles of Confederation here in the United States was originally drafted to extricate from these Trusts and was drafted and given to our founding fathers from the indigenous Indians, yet by the time the Constitution was drafted, it was already changed and subjected to the original agency of Britain and the Vatican.

    Legal or Lawful:


    Ownership is held in trust and those who hold lawful title are said to be the owners, yet these owners are not flesh and blood individuals but are corporate entities operating for the benefit of the “beneficiaries” of the trust, and are administered by the trustee. You can legally “posses” a certain asset as long as you follow the guidelines and the mandates of the trust which holds lawful title. For example, when you pay off your mortgage you get a “certificate” of ownership but you DO NOT get a fee simple lawful title. You can "legally" possess it , but WE do not own anything. Ownership by individual flesh and blood humans is a fallacy and does not exist.

    Debtor or Creditor:

    The context through which we must view commerce, and EVERYTHING is commerce, is who the creditor is and who the debtor is. All courts are basically debt collectors and all adjudication is designed to address grievances between debtors and creditors. Currently, the global system, which has been in place since AT LEAST 2000 years ago in Rome, places the ancient elite bloodline as the creditor and ALL OF the rest of us are debtors. We have acquiesced to this by agreement, through adhesion contracts such as registering our birth certificates and giving ourselves to the corporate trust as surety to operate in commerce. We have our social security which gives us certain benefits and privileges to being an indentured slave to the master trust owners of planet earth, as well as other adhesion contracts too numerous to mention. All Admiralty, Common Law, Equity, Statutes and Regulations are all derivatives of the original “weights and measures” LAWS which have been developed and put in place over the last 5000 years.

    Context and Paradigm:

    The context, from which the current adjudication is being proposed, is through the “rule of law” and the law of contracts, as well as the administrative and judicial procedures for adjudicating such grievances. If this is how the new paradigm is to be ushered in, then certain protocol must be followed. Notices are administrative and are not part of the judicial process. Liens must be filed with certain processes and procedures followed, and must be prefaced by a “notice of intent” which must also be filed within certain protocols and timelines. Affidavits also require very specific guidelines and are part of the judicial process, and must be notarized to make them official judicial documents which can be submitted as evidence in a judicial proceeding. Interrogatories, such as request for admissions, are judicial and can only be submitted after a case has been filed and the jurisdictional venue and subject matter has been agreed upon, by both parties.

    To view a new paradigm by attempting to adjudicate through the rule of law and doing a “reset” back to such a time when mankind was sovereign and free on the land does not exist. To say that the organic constitution of the united states, or any other nation state, holds sovereign immunity is also fallacious, as we are subject to the war powers act, the military districts set up under the trading with the enemy act, and we are operating under a state of emergency by executive order from the corporation which is bankrupt and in receivership to the Vatican and it’s agents.

    Conclusions:


    From the article:

    Quote The next major milestone for Mass Arrests of the cabal has now arrived. Liens have now been filed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. A Cease and Desist Order has also been filed — to prevent the world’s wealth from continuing to be stolen.
    The documents presented as evidence in this latest article are all wrong. Yes, you can notice your assumed creditors administratively to “cease and desist” but that does not mean that they will. You cannot file a lien against the opposing party until you have a judgment from a court of proper jurisdiction. Your affidavits must follow guidelines and must be sworn and notarized and submitted into a judicial process. The affidavit submitted by this article is terrible and does not follow proper protocol. The interrogatories allegedly submitted are totally wrong and are not judicial.

    It would have made more sense to give us the court case numbers and let us do our own due diligence as to the judicial process which is ongoing at the world court, or the court of international jurisdiction. As far as I know, there is no judicial process submitted aside from the Keenan case in New York, which IS NOT the jurisdiction for international grievances. To say that the ‘Hague IS the proper venue” is also suspect, for do not the cabal also control The Hague? The rule of law has been set up over millennium to serve as a protocol for all resources to flow to the top of the power pyramid and to assure that anyone who chooses to circumvent this process is mitigated and cast aside as NOT having access to the original Cesui Que Vie trust or the assets of the planet.

    So, to mix commerce and the rule of law with sovereignty, and the original rights of the sovereign, with access to the resources of planet earth, is mixing two processes, the public side and the private side. That is like trying to mix oil and water together. It will not work. So, if Drake and his ilk are sending “Notices” and “Declarations” of sovereignty to The Hague, as a private process, and are submitting documents into a public venue for adjudication, how is this possible? If you are standing outside of commerce as a sovereign and attempting to adjudicate a grievance within a public venue, you are entering into the jurisdiction on the public side. You CANNOT have it both ways. Either you operate in commerce and follow the rule of law laid down over the last 5000 years, or you step outside of commerce and stand sovereign, self determined and self responsible.

    The contractual agreements made between the Federal Reserve, The IMF, and those who entrusted the resources of this planet to them, to supposedly be used for “humanitarian” endeavors, who now allegedly want those assets back because the global banksters “breached” their agreement, need to move into a judicial process, and remain cognizant of their own culpability in the agreement.

    It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension. This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it.

    To expose the shadow side and to bring all things into the light of day would require full disclosure as to the participation of ALL of the nations and leaders, and ALL nations would be culpable and party to it. To say that there is this evil cabal who is fostering an agenda of eugenics and NWO control, while there is a contingent of benevolent ancient dynastic monarchies in opposition which have been heart centered, enlightened, does not look at the biggest picture on the canvas.

    Yes, I do believe that the resources of planet earth have been absconded for specific reasons, and that a new paradigm of sovereignty needs to emerge, but I do not think we can place two factions in opposition to each other, adjudicate justice, mete out sentences in a world court, and reset a paradigm of weights and measures based on the rule of law put in place over the last 5000 years, and index this "weights and measures" system to earth based commodities.

    A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what? Meritocracy? An amoral code of ethics? Should we re-establish a new power pyramid with new benevolent enlightened beings at the top running things? Who decides who these most awakened and wisdom filled souls are? Do you see the problem here?

    The system of weights and measures was put in place to mete out these resources in exchange for YOUR life force energy. This life force energy moves up through the power pyramid and is vampired and consumed by a nefarious small group of psychopathic aliens at the top. To try to apply empathic solutions to psychopathic’s makes no sense to me. To release free energy, the energy which is totally abundant in the matrix, or the source field, or the grand Sophia as it is called, eliminates the need for the “weights and measures” system of law and opens us up to the possibility of a new paradigm.

    What I’m seeing so far from all of this “2012 reset” is contextualized within the existing paradigm and is following the rules of a paradigm of law which is dysfunctional and needs to be completely dismantled. What Drake and Wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon. So far there is not enough information, and no one can be arrested without “charges” being filed judicially, and evidence submitted. Do we want to go down that road of adjudicating within the old system or do we want to create a new paradigm?

    Until the discourse moves more toward the spiritual aspect of communicating via claireaudience, and we can see clairevoyantly what truly is, and we become clairesentient, and we let go of the paradigm of “technology” which brought down Atlantis, and embrace the power within, we are heading down the same wrong road. We have this race memory in our DNA and we were ALL there to experience it. Let’s NOT repeat what we created back then on Atlantis, the total deluge and nuclear destruction of our planet. The elementals don't like being manipulated. We are standing on the very same precipice now as we did back then.

    Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.
    Hi Gripreaper, in case anyone thinks that I deliberately posted a flippant post after the above post of yours which was a serious well thought out post I can assure you that I didn't. I had been reading posts on this thread for 15 minutes and then I decided to post. As it happens I posted mine 5 minutes after you posted yours. I didn't know you had posted. That being said, I have a few questions I would like to ask you.
    Are you saying that the notices that Drake speaks of that were posted to the Hague are meaningless? If you are, then what are the options? Also if you can learn these things in only a hundred hours why would the Pentagon white hats not know of this. I am sure they must have consulted good lawyers about it. Do you also think that if and when the arrests start they will be illegal? Whether this clean up turns out pro the people or a cabal military takeover against the people, surely they would have got their legal advisors to advise with the actions they have started?
    Do you think that the legal guy Keenan doesn't know the law either and that legal action he is pursuing will be thrown out of court?
    I was so disappointed to read your post above.

    Stan
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    Default Re: MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks

    My hunch is that this whole 'Project Bring the Cabal Down' is multi-layered. The entire legal issue is just one tiny layer and probably works to make some people aware of the situation. It isn't about authority, so it really doesn't matter whether something was filed with the IC of The Hague or the local newspaper, as long as it was. Whilst there is one heck of a lot of activity going on behind the scenes, most of which we are not being told about (not because the new 'they' work on a need-to-know basis but because they care for the lives of their cooperating colleagues), there is also the need to keep the momentum going with the likes of us who pay attention. Furthermore, yes, there is Divine Intervention. And then there is also support from that nation hardly anyone knows about, the Third/Unknown Power. And please, let's start to think OUTSIDE the box. Legal anything is utterly meaningless to us human beings. We are NOT fictional entities, nor are we engaged in commerce, so why not simply refrain from engaging in commercial contracts?

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    Gripreaper said
    "It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension. This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it."

    Hi Gripreaper, where did you get this information? I would like to read it myself.

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    [...]

    A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what? Meritocracy? An amoral code of ethics? Should we re-establish a new power pyramid with new benevolent enlightened beings at the top running things? Who decides who these most awakened and wisdom filled souls are? Do you see the problem here?

    [...]
    gripreaper, thank you for such a clear and concise sight of the yarn ball that got ran into by a few cats...

    The astonishing thing is... there is a new paradigm on its way.

    However, for it to be able to unfold, there had to be some external intervention which -- I guess -- David Wilcock calls "Divine intervention."

    To get an inkling on that, one has to step out of the box called "Earth" to get a view on what's called "exopolitics."

    That's the kind of interactions that got Alex Collier's friends to come visit and pin down exactly what it is that would cause the spreading of utter facist police "civilizations" into the planetary neighborhood from planet Earth.

    I touch on that in Paul's thread: Debt Crisis Plotted to Deliver the Euro to the IMF? .

    Although the data are coming from a subject that has been highly ridiculed over the last 4-5 decades, they nonetheless provide a framework to navigate with, especially the "Free Zone Decree" which is apparently being observed by all parties involved except the psychos. However, those psychos are also subject to it.

    A side note to that decree was dear Bob Dean being told "Sorry pal... you've got to go back down there..." omitting: "You're now a Free Zone Planetizen...."?

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Are you saying that the notices that Drake speaks of that were posted to the Hague are meaningless?
    I’m saying that Noticing “The Hague” as to your status as a sovereign does not negate the Cestui Que Vie trusts established in 1666, which gave all of the earth and its inhabitants to the Vatican. Drake does not address this and I think it needs to be addressed. As far as I know, the only one who is addressing this is Santos Bonacci with his “Denique”.

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    If you are, then what are the options?
    Like I said, I’m not suggesting that a move to sovereignty is not heading in the right direction, but I’m adding the caveats which include a COMPLETE severance from commerce and the existing paradigm. Many have tried this over the years and filed paperwork with their Secretary of State, their Nation’s Treasuries, the IRS, The City of London, etc. and have found out that it is not that easy to extricate oneself from the matrix. The very essence of the system is imbedded in our DNA and our consciousness and requires a complete change in thinking, which includes EVERYTHING we have ever been told or taught, as a lie.

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    Also if you can learn these things in only a hundred hours why would the Pentagon white hats not know of this.
    I was being generous as to how long it takes to get up to speed as to how the matrix works and how sovereignty works, but rest assured, there is WAY more to it than meets the eye and is being distributed as groundbreaking in most of the alternative media circles on the internet. You can bet your sweet a$$ that the pentagon top brass and many of the elite families at the top of the power pyramid, both nefarious and benevolent know about the original trusts and the idea of extricating from this as a sovereign.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    I am sure they must have consulted good lawyers about it.
    All lawyers are members and registered with the BAR association, The “British Accredited Registry” and are subject to the Crown, who is an agent of the Vatican. Any time you hire a lawyer, what you are claiming is that you are incompetent to speak for yourself as you are considered “dead” under maritime Admiralty, lost at sea, deceased and a corporate fiction. ONLY corporations can be heard in the crowns tribunal and have any authority to speak. Once you “cross the bar” you are in the jurisdiction of the crown.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Do you also think that if and when the arrests start they will be illegal?
    First of all, there has to be “charges” filed and a court order signed by a judge and a “warrant “ issued for ANYONE to be arrested (except now with the recent NDAA and other executive orders passed). The court must also have “jurisdiction” over that corporate entity which it is arresting. The owners of the planet are not subject to ANY jurisdiction.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Do you think that the legal guy Keenan doesn't know the law either and that legal action he is persuing will be thrown out of court?
    Yes, I do think that the Keenan case will not make it very far, and was filed as a way to draw attention to the problem, which it has failed miserably to do so far. Only those in the alternative media, US, which is a very small number, are following along.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    I was so disappointed to read your post above.
    Don’t be disappointed. Knowledge is power, and power MUST come from within EACH individual. That is what sovereignty entails and that is in essence what Drake is trying to sell, albeit mixed with administrative and judicial processes, which DO NOT mix. You cannot create a new paradigm from the same level of consciousness which created the old paradigm and go back to some imagined time in the past where we were all sovereign and free under the rule of law and do a “reset”, as if there EVER was such the case to begin with. The rule of law is NOT sovereignty.

    Self realization, Self Determination, and self responsibility do not fit into that old paradigm. Creating a future based on technology puts us back thousands of years, whereas we would not need any of the existing systems at all if we were conscious and tapped into the energy of the source field.

    This is the context from which a new paradigm can emerge.
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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Are you saying that the notices that Drake speaks of that were posted to the Hague are meaningless?
    I’m saying that Noticing “The Hague” as to your status as a sovereign does not negate the Cestui Que Vie trusts established in 1666, which gave all of the earth and its inhabitants to the Vatican. Drake does not address this and I think it needs to be addressed. As far as I know, the only one who is addressing this is Santos Bonacci with his “Denique”.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    If you are, then what are the options?
    Like I said, I’m not suggesting that a move to sovereignty is not heading in the right direction, but I’m adding the caveats which include a COMPLETE severance from commerce and the existing paradigm. Many have tried this over the years and filed paperwork with their Secretary of State, their Nation’s Treasuries, the IRS, The City of London, etc. and have found out that it is not that easy to extricate oneself from the matrix. The very essence of the system is imbedded in our DNA and our consciousness and requires a complete change in thinking, which includes EVERYTHING we have ever been told or taught, as a lie.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Also if you can learn these things in only a hundred hours why would the Pentagon white hats not know of this.
    I was being generous as to how long it takes to get up to speed as to how the matrix works and how sovereignty works, but rest assured, there is WAY more to it than meets the eye and is being distributed as groundbreaking in most of the alternative media circles on the internet. You can bet your sweet a$$ that the pentagon top brass and many of the elite families at the top of the power pyramid, both nefarious and benevolent know about the original trusts and the idea of extricating from this as a sovereign.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    I am sure they must have consulted good lawyers about it.
    All lawyers are members and registered with the BAR association, The “British Accredited Registry” and are subject to the Crown, who is an agent of the Vatican. Any time you hire a lawyer, what you are claiming is that you are incompetent to speak for yourself as you are considered “dead” under maritime Admiralty, lost at sea, deceased and a corporate fiction. ONLY corporations can be heard in the crowns tribunal and have any authority to speak. Once you “cross the bar” you are in the jurisdiction of the crown.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Do you also think that if and when the arrests start they will be illegal?
    First of all, there has to be “charges” filed and a court order signed by a judge and a “warrant “ issued for ANYONE to be arrested (except now with the recent NDAA and other executive orders passed). The court must also have “jurisdiction” over that corporate entity which it is arresting. The owners of the planet are not subject to ANY jurisdiction.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Do you think that the legal guy Keenan doesn't know the law either and that legal action he is persuing will be thrown out of court?
    Yes, I do think that the Keenan case will not make it very far, and was filed as a way to draw attention to the problem, which it has failed miserably to do so far. Only those in the alternative media, US, which is a very small number, are following along.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    I was so disappointed to read your post above.
    Don’t be disappointed. Knowledge is power, and power MUST come from within EACH individual. That is what sovereignty entails and that is in essence what Drake is trying to sell, albeit mixed with administrative and judicial processes, which DO NOT mix. You cannot create a new paradigm from the same level of consciousness which created the old paradigm and go back to some imagined time in the past where we were all sovereign and free under the rule of law and do a “reset”, as if there EVER was such the case to begin with. The rule of law is NOT sovereignty.

    Self realization, Self Determination, and self responsibility do not fit into that old paradigm. Creating a future based on technology puts us back thousands of years, whereas we would not need any of the existing systems at all if we were conscious and tapped into the energy of the source field.

    This is the context from which a new paradigm can emerge.
    gripreaper, you said a lot - but are you "sovereign?"

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    I was so disappointed to read your post above.
    Don’t be disappointed. Knowledge is power, and power MUST come from within EACH individual. That is what sovereignty entails and that is in essence what Drake is trying to sell, albeit mixed with administrative and judicial processes, which DO NOT mix. You cannot create a new paradigm from the same level of consciousness which created the old paradigm and go back to some imagined time in the past where we were all sovereign and free under the rule of law and do a “reset”, as if there EVER was such the case to begin with. The rule of law is NOT sovereignty.

    Self realization, Self Determination, and self responsibility do not fit into that old paradigm. Creating a future based on technology puts us back thousands of years, whereas we would not need any of the existing systems at all if we were conscious and tapped into the energy of the source field.

    This is the context from which a new paradigm can emerge.
    Every one's discussion is quite helpful. My comment is this ...
    There seems to be an ASSUMPTION that is should be a natural thing to be self-empowered. I know I am striving for this, why else would I use this forum for information and discussion. However, we are in a life-changing event at this moment (at least if we believe this 25,000+ year end of cycle, end of federal reserve??, end of cabal, disclosure , etc. etc. etc.)

    Some of us are seeking information and perspective and it's NOT EASY. I think we must appreciate that we are doing some very hard work here --- expanding ourselves as we've never done before.

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

    The astonishing thing is... there is a new paradigm on its way.

    However, for it to be able to unfold, there had to be some external intervention which -- I guess -- David Wilcock calls "Divine intervention."

    To get an inkling on that, one has to step out of the box called "Earth" to get a view on what's called "exopolitics."
    Do you really want to introduce exopolitics into this discussion? I know that is probably why the title to Wilcock's thesis is called "Divine Intervention" and I'm reasonably sure that there is a connection, but I'm NOT SO SURE that those who call themselves enlightened and connected into the higher dimensional realms are getting pure info and are not delving into other dualistic realms.

    One would also need to back engineer earths history to the original influx of celestial beings, how many different star systems seeded the indigenous species, how and why did the hybridization occur, what are the alchemical properties of gold and why is it considered so valuable even to the galactic community, and where has all the gold mined in the last 200,000 years since the Annunaki mined it using us as a slave species gone.

    This is a subject which is so vast and all encompassing, I do not recommend anyone who is using a 3D dimensional 5 senses paradigm from which to view exopolitics as a context, to engage the esoteric aspects of the galactic community and how it is structured, who's interests are being aligned with earth, and how we fit into that.

    lets 'wake up" a bit more and shed our 3D skins a bit, shall we?
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    No one has all the answers. To be trapped in thinking that our views have to be the ONLY way is something we all fall into. And to believe that our perceptions of what is happening or not even if we could possibly have all of the facts and if we could possibly be 100% in our interpretation which we all filter through our own belief systems (this includes me), can deliver us JUST one answer or Just one way to see all of this.


    As for the Lien. A friend of mine who is retired CPA and paralegal and has studied common law and on and on, explained this to me. This is what he says about liens and the potential of what could happen with this. He is not pretended to be sure. He is giving his best opinion. Here it is:

    My Best Guess:

    A. The Liens were dated April 11th. They allow for a 10 day response period. Most probable outcome is for the Fed Reserve to default as they have no defenses. That means as of Monday the 23rd look for the Federal Reserve to be seized.

    B. Lien Process. I do not think that the liens went through a court system. Originally, there was a contract between the Fed Reserve and the various countries/funds that gave up their gold in exchange for Fed Bonds. Under old law (contract & maritime) a lien can be prepared and sent to the other party directly. The lien outlines the damages and the remedy being requested.

    If the defendant fails to respond (defend themselves) in ten days, then the allegations stand and the lien can be foreclosed on by the county sheriff. If the defendant puts up a false defense, they are in more jeopardy than before and the players then become personally liable for the damages done by the corporation.

    If the lien is foreclosed on then the Fed Reserve will be under new management, the Wall Street banks will collapse within two weeks, the cabal effectively will be cut off from all of their money - thus game over.

    Don't forget that the Fed Reserve must remain open to process checks, interbank transfers and other routine banking. What will stop is the printing of money, fraud, money laundering etc. That is why I suggest the new management approach will occur.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Hi Gripreaper, where did you get this information? I would like to read it myself.
    Stan, here is a fairly good synopsis, which covers one corner of the big canvas.

    http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-13.htm

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    [...]

    ... but I'm NOT SI SURE that those who call themselves enlightened and connected into the higher dimensional realms are getting pure info or and delving into other dualistic realms.

    [...]

    This is a subject which is so vast and all encompassing, I do not recommend anyone who is using a 3D dimensional 5 senses paradigm from which to view exopolitics as a context, to engage the esoteric aspects of the galactic community and how it is structured, who's interests are being aligned with earth, and how we fit into that.

    lets 'wake up" a bit more and shed our 3D skins a bit, shall we?
    Agreed on the caveat and on the current limitations.

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    It says there will be allot of grief and crying when this plays out.

    I will pop champagne!

    By the way, my mentor was one of the leading guys mentioned in the lawsuit regarding the trillion dollar scam.
    Quote I was told that any mention of this system, or the jargon that goes along with it, could have led to the dreaded "knock on the door" -- but so far I have been fine.
    The jargon he did not mention are PPP(Private Placement Program), "trading programs", trading or simply a "program".

    It takes $100M + to enter a trading program, the right contacts and to be accepted.

    It can also be done with a smaller amount with the right contacts.

    The profit is 100% several times in a short period of time with no risk, because the money will be in the "investor's" bank account, when the trading goes on.

    I think, it takes the fun out of the money game, when people can access the monopoly bank's money with the right contacts and buy up everything.

    It is not so secret any more. I see more and more people speak about these trading programs everywhere.

    By the way, I'm not a HNWI or UHNWI yet.

    I have the knowledge, skills and connections, what is worth more than money. But it seems the marketplace has completely frozen worldwide.

    I'm a humanitarian capitalist and work for humanity inside the system.
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    does anyone know if Alfred Webre has anything to add to this situation. i believe that if anyone would know how to and where to go it would be him. gripreaper, do you have an inside line to Dr. Webre? i remember that he is responsible for the beginning of the exopolitical movement. I like what you have said, because now i understand what is happening more clearly; but as aranuk said, i am disappointed too. how can we get around all of this?
    warmest regards, corson

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    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    A. The Liens were dated April 11th. They allow for a 10 day response period. Most probable outcome is for the Fed Reserve to default as they have no defenses. That means as of Monday the 23rd look for the Federal Reserve to be seized.

    B. Lien Process. I do not think that the liens went through a court system. Originally, there was a contract between the Fed Reserve and the various countries/funds that gave up their gold in exchange for Fed Bonds. Under old law (contract & maritime) a lien can be prepared and sent to the other party directly. The lien outlines the damages and the remedy being requested.

    If the defendant fails to respond (defend themselves) in ten days, then the allegations stand and the lien can be foreclosed on by the county sheriff. If the defendant puts up a false defense, they are in more jeopardy than before and the players then become personally liable for the damages done by the corporation.
    What you are describing is an administrative "Notice" and is not a lien. You can notice someone and state a claim, and what you are intending to do if they don't respond, but this is not a lien. The status of the parties has not even been established. Here is a UCC 1 filed on behalf of NAWAPA against the Federal Reserve for 14 TRILLION dollars which names who the creditors are and who the debtors are.

    http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9...nonamerica.pdf

    Where's the Financing Statements? Where's the Judicial Case filings? Where's the Liens?
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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Hi Gripreaper, where did you get this information? I would like to read it myself.
    Stan, here is a fairly good synopsis, which covers one corner of the big canvas.

    http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-13.htm
    This article helped me connect several dots - Thanks Gripreaper

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    Gripreaper seems to suggest that a transcendence of a requirement for "money" should be our goal... I have to agree - but we appear so far away from having the required fundamental, shall I say, spiritual foundation needed to make that leap and instead seem so close to planetary catastrophe... wow - what a dilemma. If only we could go back to Feb 1954... the meeting with Eisenhower and decide instead to give up the H-bomb development for a crash course in spiritual and ethical development... at least now the state of our world and how it got this way finally makes some sense - at least in being able to understand how we got here. I wish I had answers for my children's sake.

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    AFAIK , those offers from the Benevolent Groups of ET/EDs are STILL open and on the tables, but the governments are still refusing to cooperate and give up the Nukes, so the ETs have pretty much decided one way or another they pretty much are just going to remove all Nuclear Tech on the entire planet whether its' done willingly with the cooperation of the world governments or not. If they cooperate, they get rewarded but still have to agree to disclosure and sharing of the tech etc with the people (which they will be forced to share if they don't "play nice")...if not, the good ET/EDs pretty much say "screw you world governments." continue to remove and prevent nuclear tech from being used destructively , clean up what is already here and give the fancy things to the people, disclose themselves and help the people as is meant to happen and is happening anyway.
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    I see a deeper destabilization happening as some try to remove the "power system / structure" and that my friends is called a vacuum! Nature abhors those and people react poorly to massive changes in their happy paradigm no matter how miserable they are in general, they don't want to change things that much! Thus we have chaos and crisis ensue. Be very careful of lollipop dreams and gum-sickle fantasies.

    I smell a rat, and I smell eager minds in nefarious places eagerly awaiting the coming catastrophe of the little people attempting to take control. Of course I could be completely wrong and Lord Axelbaum of the Galactic Brotherhood of love, light and tea on Sundays is going to keep everything working smoothly and not let any of the big bad boogie men in the millenia old cabal do anything nasty to us.

    We are going into a time of great turmoil in order to drive us to the edge and begging for peace at which time we will be offered the very thing the elites have had planned for us for hundreds of years, yet only put the finishing touches on this past century. They have had our new zoo waiting and we will happily munch away on the portions they provide while we entertain them endlessly with our antics and believe we are free. It's a beautiful plan in a very sick and twisted way.

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    Here is what I should have posted because this is our reality:


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