Posted by justoneman
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Prior to the below quotes (which I will address), I thought Turiya’s post #64 comments were clear and well stated without emotionally charged inserts. Turiya put forth many valid considerations that were presented in a non-inflammatory way. He/She had me thinking I might have a change of heart in regards to what may be Turiya’s motivations for his/her posts... until the end.
Before I dissect the end of Turiya's post #64 I have one comment - if Drake is former NSA, it would not matter to me – so is Jim Stone -
http://jimstonefreelance.com/ In fact, if Drake was (or former CIA or former any other agency) perhaps his experience makes him even more qualified at what he is up to now. Just because someone has been a part of an alphabet agency does not make them a bad guy. In fact, just because someone may have been a bad guy in the past does not make them a bad guy today (thus could be the case for TT if he ever was a bad guy – I make no accusations there either way).
Now I must comment on the last part of Turiya’s post #64
“I'm not trying to promote Tim Turner, but I would certainly not be willing to be so easily swayed by some mystery man that doesn't use his real name, “
Drake has stated many times he is using his real name. I assume this is his first name but perhaps it is his last name or maybe even a middle name. In any case, I have no doubts that if the “bad guys” wanted to know who he was and where he was, it would be easy for them and he surely knows that himself. I suspect his desire to not be specific about his full name may simply be that he doesn’t want to risk being inundated by people via calls or e-mails who may be well meaning but actually interrupt his efforts when time is of the essence.
“that has borrowed information, and has not in any way come out in front of a camera to show himself to anyone. “
Borrowed information -
if I am involved in efforts to assist others and much of the information I have obtained and used in these effort is non-original, does that disqualify me from being able to assist others?
“Be gullible if you like, if that is what intuition means to you.”
Actually, I love the expression, “I am from Missouri” which is known as “The Show Me” state. In heart, I am from Missouri. I will believe things when I see it, so I would not state I am gullible, I would more accurately state that I appear to lean to believing in the efforts of Drake (and those who he is working with) as being honest and sincere. On the other hand I would lean to staying away from TT who seems to be setting himself up to be the next President if a new government comes forth amongst the other concerns I previously raised. I do not know either way if TT is clean or not, a really good guy or not, I just know the way I lean and I am honest that part of the reason I lean that way is based on my gut. By you stating that I am gullible implies that you know I have been fooled. Time will tell.
I could be wrong about both of them. But it is odd to me that TT would want to have a debate with a Drake (or anyone else who spends their time in these efforts). What’s the point? Aren’t the goals of both supposed to be the freedom of humanity? (At least starting here in the u S of A?) I would think TTs time would be better spent on continuing to work on these efforts and not spent debating someone who should actually be considered an ally. What would the debate be about? Who thought of what first? In fact, it raises my suspicion meter as to why a Turiya spends so much time on this forum attempting to make it into a TT/Drake dual… When TT is brought up to Drake, he spends about 8 seconds on the subject – doesn’t seem to be an issue with Drake – seems there are bigger fish to fry for Drake… another reason my trust meter is much higher with Drake.
“BYW, calling someone a 'Troll' is a derogatory name,”
Actually it is a specific term forum users are familiar with which has several meanings, one of which is “someone who appears to inflame the conversation.” I saw that as an accurate label based on my experience reading many of your posts, not a name that has no real meaning other than to be disparaging. If he called you a jerk, then I would agree he was calling you “a derogatory name.”
Hopefully I have addressed you post #64 accurately
Best Regards
justoneman
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