Mass Arrests – But What Then?

[karelia]

Posted by billyji (here)
What Then,

Will be when all lightworkers and wayshowers kick into action working your lights and showing the way foreward to all our brothers and sisters and families who are in shock and in a state of confusion.

What then

assist in cleansing our mother earth and learning about our new technology

What then

Have a party and enjoy peace on earth.

Thank you, Billyji. Just a few minutes ago, I shared with a friend that I had really expected answers in this thread to be a) pointing out the spiritual awakening, how we (lightworkers, star seeds, etc) will help, and b) practical ideas, and so very little has appeared so far. I'm glad you brought it up!

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
What Then,

Will be when all lightworkers and wayshowers kick into action working your lights and showing the way foreward to all our brothers and sisters and families who are in shock and in a state of confusion.

What then

assist in cleansing our mother earth and learning about our new technology

What then

Have a party and enjoy peace on earth.

Thank you, Billyji. Just a few minutes ago, I shared with a friend that I had really expected answers in this thread to be a) pointing out the spiritual awakening, how we (lightworkers, star seeds, etc) will help, and b) practical ideas, and so very little has appeared so far. I'm glad you brought it up!

karelia, That was my plans for "STEP SEVEN - Preparation and Maintenance of Mind and Body." But I wanted to put together a team, particularly PA members with extensive meditation knowledge, that could provide direction that is attractive to those from all cultures. I hope to get my outlines going to this objective if I can muster more time in the next few days, but would welcome some other party carrying that torch.

[karelia]

Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
karelia, That was my plans for "STEP SEVEN - Preparation and Maintenance of Mind and Body." But I wanted to put together a team, particularly PA members with extensive meditation knowledge, that could provide direction that is attractive to those from all cultures. I hope to get my outlines going to this objective if I can muster more time in the next few days, but would welcome some other party carrying that torch.

I read your posts. Overall, I like what you said in them, and I largely agree, on a 3D level.

I can't help much with meditation because I don't meditate often. I prefer to play. I create balls of energy between my hands, then craft them to grow bigger and lighter and brighter and then let them go and choose a destination. Much fun!

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
karelia, That was my plans for "STEP SEVEN - Preparation and Maintenance of Mind and Body." But I wanted to put together a team, particularly PA members with extensive meditation knowledge, that could provide direction that is attractive to those from all cultures. I hope to get my outlines going to this objective if I can muster more time in the next few days, but would welcome some other party carrying that torch.

I read your posts. Overall, I like what you said in them, and I largely agree, on a 3D level.

I can't help much with meditation because I don't meditate often. I prefer to play. I create balls of energy between my hands, then craft them to grow bigger and lighter and brighter and then let them go and choose a destination. Much fun!

karelia,

My outlines were only intended as a point of departure. I had hoped (and still do hope that) others would add to or improve my beginnings. Your "play" would be a wonderful part of any program that I would love to try myself. The only limitations are those we impose upon ourselves. Let's not.

[christian]

• educate about what has been going on beneath the surface (or in plain view - if largely unnoticed) > this will prevent the same thing from happening again
  
• fire people's inspiration, what is actually really possible, physically/technically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually > this will prevent pseudo-benevolent helpers to take advantage of us
  
• go for it, everyone uses their talents and abilities in an empowering way - empowering for the self and for others, together we'll thrive

[Snowbird]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)

Notice I call for amnesty and peace and have forgiven the Elite and see no reason to put them in jail.

You make no sense. How do you forgive someone for something they are still doing, with renewed vigor and urgency, and are nowhere near being contrite? I reiterate. You make no sense. You do exhibit an odd sympathy for the currently active criminals. Something is not right here and it is not about you being compassionate. Your remarks for the non-criminals demonstrate that.

There is something very wrong with your comments, taken side by side. Anger at the wronged and forgiveness for the uncontrite and still active wrong-doers.

Something is rotten in Denmark.

Let me see if I can give you a different viewpoint and make sense of what this poster is trying to convey. Earth is currently inhabited with 3rd dimensional thinking. One of the belief systems that comes from this dimension is an eye for an eye. If you were to take a higher dimensional approach you would see that the Powers That Were have offered you endless "fuel" to work with through their evil doings. This is the very opportunity that humans are overlooking and it is this opportunity that has the ability to change our reality out of the game of duality. The poster you are questioning is suggesting that one takes a different route rather than an eye for an eye through forgiveness. If you put the science behind this suggestion you will find the poster's approach to be accurate. Every living and non-living thing vibrates at a frequency. It is said that love and compassion vibrates at the highest frequency rate. Change the way you think and you change your reality, it's that simple. And when we as a society understand and practice this thought process we will help to transform Earth into a reality where duality no longer exists as the negative energy will no longer be able to survive in the higher dimensional frequencies of love and compassion.

Welcome to this forum we-R-one. Your online name is directly indicative to the thought and heart processes of many on this forum. We may express ourselves a little differently one from the other, but for the most part, we believe it and live it.

Most of us do understand that those who consider themselves elite, have come to Earth at this time for very specific reasons. From what I understand, there was an agreement between the people of Earth and off-Earth beings. The off-Earth beings were to come into this 3rd dimension and perform an uplifting service for the people of this Earth by portraying exclusively evil acts to awaken the sleeping Earth people into action. I think that on one hand, there was a degree of success in this very lengthy staged play, but somewhere along the way, the off-Earth beings became addicted to their power, control and avarice. In short, the players played their parts all too well. So well in fact that the players have for decades, refused to leave this Earth plane. I believe that one aspect of this evil portrayal that is overlooked by those who espouse blanket forgiveness is the fact that we live in a country/world that is based upon laws of justice. And, the people of this Earth have been and continue to be held accountable to these laws, some of which are really quite archaic. However, my interpretation and definition of justice is really quite beyond that of our legal system. I'm not absolutely sure if I believe in forgiveness rather than unconditional love and compassionate clemency for those whose hearts are assessed by the Source and found to be truly open and willing to accept new ways and teachings. Our Earthly laws don't come even close to this type of justice. Our Earthly laws and forms of punishment don't reform. They simply produce much more violence.

Our Earth is in the process of being transformed into a reality where duality no longer exists. Many of the elites however, continue to maintain and covet the negative energies while here on Earth and in the midst of the people of Earth. Many of these elites btw, stem from higher dimensional frequencies....not of love and compassion, but of power, control and excess. Love is definitely the key answer to this dilemma and will bring us up and out of this thick mire where we find ourselves. But what happens to those elites who continue to commit atrocities in the name of their masters off Earth? Should they simply be allowed to commit mayhem on an innocent people without any type of methods to prevent their heinous actions? Should they simply be allowed to bomb, rape, pillage, murder, steal, while we sit calmly with hands folded in lap and meditate or pray? Some of us say NO...enough is too much.

We need justice for these but from the highest Source. A true healing justice for those who are ready and willing. But definitely justice.

This is merely a game being played down here on Earth called the Polarity Integration Game or the game of duality, otherwise known as the game of the light and the dark. The dark one's have served their purpose and served it well. For this they should not be judged but forgiven. You see because of their evil ways they have awakened millions.

There is a type of game of illusion coming to a close here on Earth. Many are in the process of graduating from this into the higher realms. However, the dark ones' purpose here on the Earth ended years ago. But still, they remain and continue to commit atrocities and mayhem....and they think nothing of it.

So what next is what the original poster asked?? You take that negative energy they have so kindly continued to generate and you transmute it into love and compassion through acceptance and forgiveness, that's what's next! For some but not for everyone. Love and compassion have the ability to change your DNA structure from a more carbon base to chrystalline! When you change your DNA structure you stop disease! This what they don't want you to know!

This is very true.

All this craziness going on, is by design, to offer you the opportunity, your souls, to evolve and remove yourself from the horrors of experiencing the game of duality by understanding how to save yourself. 5th dimension which is where we're headed is about understanding that you are the creators of your reality. What I just shared with you is how you go about creating that reality! Change the way you think! It's all about consciousness. If you look at the science you will see that we are tied into the same Sourcefield of energy. It is through collective consciousess that we will be able to change our world that harbors peace not violence, but it starts with each individual changing how they think. When society comes to this realization "collectively" it is then you will see real change take place and a dimensional shift. Do not miss this opportunity to transmute negative energy! Your emotions vibrate at a frequency so if you harbor all the negative energies that an eye for an eye suggest such as anger and fear, you are feeding the beast and creating the very enviroment that you loathe.

Very good advice IMO!

Everything around you consists of energy. How you decide to use it will determine where you go in the future. You are consciousness down here having an experience, you are immortal! How you think, will determine the reality you'll find yourself in the future. Do any of you really want to experience duality all over again? There are only two reasons that I can think of that you would have to: 1. You choose to come back to this reality maybe to help other souls or 2. You didn't learn the lessons needed and therefore you must repeat the experience again till you get the message. Please do not discount what I am saying, I'm completely serious. My background is that of a Star Seed. We come from advanced civilizations not from this world with the purpose of incarnating onto this planet in order to help humanity through the ascension process that is currently taking place. I am jumping up and down here because I see the opportunity that sits before you. You have free will to choose the path you are most comfortable with, so if this does not sit well in your gut it is best that you continue in the direction that most suits your journey.

Different advanced civilizations have differing opinions and teachings. Some of these resonate and some do not

For those who are ready to move in a different direction you will hopefully find something in my post that resonates within your soul. By forgiving, and generating positive energy of love and compassion and putting that out into Sourcefield, you help lay the foundation to a future in which these games of duality can no longer survive on this planet. This is the future for those who choose to walk this path.

The above mostly resonates.

[christian]

Posted by karelia in response to Neptune
That doesn't explain how the Germans were "deprogrammed," as you claim in your initial post, and I don't think the subject really fits into this thread. If you search, you'll find plenty of threads on the subjects of Nazi Germany.

There was a process called De-nazification after WW2. After the fall of the Berlin Wall society in East Germany changed a lot, many jobs directly connected to the old system were gone, so the society as a whole was kind of "deprogrammed".

I don't think it's necessary to analyze that in depth in this thread, but to compare the "after mass arrests" scenario to those scenarios makes perfect sense to me, one system is gone and what is it actually replaced with? In both cases in Germany the whole truth about the past had not been told to the public. What the people got was the new ruler's version of history and their set of morals and laws, which were corrupted as well, just with another touch to it. That's exactly the scenario we don't want now.

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)

Notice I call for amnesty and peace and have forgiven the Elite and see no reason to put them in jail.

How do you forgive someone for something they are still doing, with renewed vigor and urgency, and are nowhere near being contrite?

It's possible to forgive someone and still imprison or even kill him.
The act of forgiving is becoming detached on a spiritual level, but there are still the physical facts to deal with. I'm absolutely not for allowing compulsive abusers to roam freely on this beautiful planet. And imprisoning them all would create a lot of work I wouldn't like to do as well, so I'd say send them 'elsewhere'

[DreamsInDigital]

That's what I liked so much about the one set of ET/ED's that are allies to the Andromedan Council, they're taking the ones they capture and sending them to the far end of the universe on a ONE way trip, so they can't cause harm to anyone else, but are forced to live with the same reptoids/grays and other cabalist they conspired with.

[Neptun]

christian,

When we convince ourselves and others, that we are innocent or victims is like giving power away. Victims can't change their situation, only those that take responsibility for everything can.

It's easier to forgive the Elite, when we understand, we ALLOW to be manipulated by them out of free will.

We create our own reality.

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by Neptun (here)
christian,

When we convince ourselves and others, that we are innocent or victims, that is like giving power away. Victims can't change their situation, only those that take responsibility for everything can.

It's easier to forgive the Elite when we understand we ALLOW to be manipulated by them out of free will.

We create our own reality.

Forgiveness of others and ourselves may be the largest objective and accomplishment we strive for—in the 3rd, and perhaps too in other dimensions. That vital accomplishment signifies to me the most important message of Christ, and likely other philosophers, sages and gurus.

One could argue that by free will we all incarnated to accept the oppression of the OWO. I contend that I incarnated not to accept the status quo, but to work with others (on-world, in-world and off-world) to usher humanity and Earth through the most peaceful transition possible. That includes the compassionate education of fearful victims, particularly those that continue to believe the illusions of duality. For my own tranquility, I must accept that some humans may choose to remain fearful victims. However, I intend that will not be a result of my efforts, or lack thereof. It's late, but it's early.

[Neptun]

EnergyGardener,

It is not difficult to forgive and love "your enemy", when we have the right mindset installed in our brains.

Mindset:
We create our own reality and therefore we have to take responsibility for everything that happens in our reality. New World Order is only a threat to us, if we ALLOW to be manipulated and don't seek freedom and make freedom one of our first priorities in life.

If you ask Danes about if they would sacrifice freedom for safety, they will not know what freedom is and think it is relative and say we always have to sacrifice freedom to compromise with others. If not, then we can't live with other people.

In my world it is easy. Freedom is something I know in my heart and will rather die for, than give up. To have lost freedom is worse than death.

I conquer more and more of my freedom back that I have willingly given away. We can all do it.

Paying taxes? That is not freedom. Take responsibility and find a way around it legally.
Being a salary slave is not freedom either. Become self employed on the internet and you can work from the North pole, if you want to.

hate being monitored by google. Use startpage

Don't like naked body scanners DON'T FLY!

Don't like being brainwashed by the TV. Kick it out!

We build the freedom muscle the more we train our mind to think out of the box and do what is necessary.

New World Order can't succeed, if we don't ALLOW it!

Is it really TPTB's fault, we are lazy and give away our freedom?

[EnergyGardener]

Neptune, It appears that while we agree on some issues, yours is to distort mine and others with constructive purpose. I have no need for you to lecture me on body scanners and TV or the other irrelevant issues you have addressed on this and other posts at PA. Your attempt to paint the OWO in a positive light and justification for calling everyone else lazy, willfully choosing to be manipulated and worse—at best reassures me, that attempting to address your points further is a waste. You might say it is an American - Danish divide, but I know many of Danish heritage that do not share your attempted guillotine humor and dark perspective.

[Avocadess]

RE Alex Jones: I want to clarify that I DO like the guy and I have felt (for many years) that he has performed an important and needed service is exposing a LOT of the OWO shenanigans. Really I do. I LIKE the guy.

However, I have also witnessed -- and I live in the same town as Alex Jones where he has many followers -- that people who listen to him all the time often get BENT UP IN FEAR. It is unfortunate that Alex is not able to include in his message practical ways for people to deal with that fear. I know of one man who committed suicide because of such fear who was an avid listener of his. Several close acquaintances have also displayed a tendency not to believe ANYTHING good because they are so tied up in the fears they got from listening to Alex.

I heard that David Wilcock said something like this (and I totally agree and this is paraphrasing): "I love Alex. I just wish he would tone it down a little. Well, a lot."

[Neptun]

EnergyGardener,

My intent is not to lecture you or anyone else. I explain how the mindset to take responsibility works, so we are not victims of the NWO.

I'm not painting NWO in a positive light. All I do is to say, we are the problem and we have to change. If we are victims of the NWO, we are giving away our powers and letting them do with us, what they want.

If you don't agree with the above. Then there is no reason to continue debating it. No offense.

Regarding danish humor. It can be dark and bizarre. Lars von Trier also makes dark movies.

You may know some Danes that don't have that type of humor. Not all Danes are the same.

Get ready for a culture shock:
This is children/youth comedy on national TV:
A Nazi Hippo:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fkfPOLa6zVU

A public service message regarding HIV on national TV.

This would probably not work on American National TV. No Offense.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M9mN-KuLPEU

I will not show you the doll Rocco that also is on National TV. He is too nasty and I will probably be banned for life, if I post him here.

(Dolph og Wulff - Sophie Lassen Kahlke (English subtitles))

As you can see there is a huge American and Danish difference. Danish humor has no political correctness at all and it has heavy irony and sarcasm and goes to the extreme.

I probably ended up on the terroristlist for showing you guys this.

Danes are probably the only ones on the planet that understand our humor.

[Neptun]

I have listened to Alex Jones nearly everyday for probably 8-10 years.

I don't feel fear. The reason why is probably because it motivated me to do more to wake people up.

Those that get depressed are probably not taking action and sit alone listening to Alex passionate rants without knowing what to do.
We can all sign up to a forum and post information regarding NWO or burn 1000 DVDs give it to people on the street. I did that.

Now I focus my mind on positive things and is in a mind vacation.

[Unified Serenity]

I understand what some of you mean by the "living in fear" comments. I also think it is important to state that seeing negative truths about reality and history does not make one living in fear. I am one of those people who wants to know the whole truth. I don't want to hear about how great rain is because our water table is low and be totally in the dark about a Hurricane Katrina headed my way. If I see a hurricane real or symbolic I am going to talk about it. If someone says, "I don't want to know" then I won't personally go to them and tell them, but if they are on a forum dedicated to truth then that's a different story. I will speak my mind on all things as I feel led and it does not make me or anyone else who points out glaring misrepresentations, facts about a person's past or history or actions and evaluate things based on the known facts.

We do live in a time of much upheaval. Unfortunately, there are many who want to pretend all is sunshine and roses when it is not. Neither is it all destruction and chaos for there are silver linings in all grey clouds and there are people of great love who always step forward and answer the call to serve. It's not good to live in a delusion of light and love or a state of fear.

[aranuk]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I understand what some of you mean by the "living in fear" comments. I also think it is important to state that seeing negative truths about reality and history does not make one living in fear. I am one of those people who wants to know the whole truth. I don't want to hear about how great rain is because our water table is low and be totally in the dark about a Hurricane Katrina headed my way. If I see a hurricane real or symbolic I am going to talk about it. If someone says, "I don't want to know" then I won't personally go to them and tell them, but if they are on a forum dedicated to truth then that's a different story. I will speak my mind on all things as I feel led and it does not make me or anyone else who points out glaring misrepresentations, facts about a person's past or history or actions and evaluate things based on the known facts.
We do live in a time of much upheaval. Unfortunately, there are many who want to pretend all is sunshine and roses when it is not. Neither is it all destruction and chaos for there are silver linings in all grey clouds and there are people of great love who always step forward and answer the call to serve. It's not good to live in a delusion of light and love or a state of fear.

So tell us how you see the world shaping up US. Tell us what you think we could be doing to make it better. Try if you can without criticising others here on Avalon.
I'm quite sure a lot of people here will agree with what you say. It will be nice for a change to be able to agree on lots of things instead of concentrating on our differences.

Stan

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I understand what some of you mean by the "living in fear" comments. I also think it is important to state that seeing negative truths about reality and history does not make one living in fear. I am one of those people who wants to know the whole truth. I don't want to hear about how great rain is because our water table is low and be totally in the dark about a Hurricane Katrina headed my way. If I see a hurricane real or symbolic I am going to talk about it. If someone says, "I don't want to know" then I won't personally go to them and tell them, but if they are on a forum dedicated to truth then that's a different story. I will speak my mind on all things as I feel led and it does not make me or anyone else who points out glaring misrepresentations, facts about a person's past or history or actions and evaluate things based on the known facts.

We do live in a time of much upheaval. Unfortunately, there are many who want to pretend all is sunshine and roses when it is not. Neither is it all destruction and chaos for there are silver linings in all grey clouds and there are people of great love who always step forward and answer the call to serve. It's not good to live in a delusion of light and love or a state of fear.

US, I agree with everything your wrote. However it is virtually impossible to accomplish anything constructive with a heavy heart. One must have a vision and act with enough optimism to create. That is my challenge, and I suspect, yours too. Our words, our thoughts and visions have great energy that manifest our reality—it is vital to appreciate that we help or we hinder.

This challenge, as seasoned skeptics, is to let go of the pent up anger from our past history—and God knows we all have that, admittedly most (if not all) of our own choices. Then, when good fortune is available—and it is for us now—we are not so jaded that we do not help to turn away the hurricanes, earthquakes, tyrannical banking system that has enslaved us—and remove all that harmed us yesterday, today.

We have that opportunity and it is being fully realized—my hope and will is for as many possible as soon as possible.

[Unified Serenity]

I think forums are a great place to learn and expose oneself to alternative views and information. Most people tend to find their favorite sources and they go to them day in and day out, but then one tends to only get a certain kind of information. I look for many sources, but I too have my favorites. I enjoy it when members post their sources so I can go look and browse them. I was getting fed up with just one bit of news about the trayvon martin death so I joined a black forum / chat site. I went there to see what the black community was saying and guess what? Not one mention of trayvon amongst them. Now, that is just one forum set up for the black community, but I wanted to see what they found important. I did not bring up any subjects, I just listened. It was rather fun actually.

I think one of the best things we can do is really get to know each other. I imagine if we could take two or three people a week whom we do not tend to line up with in our discussions that we might learn from one another a great many things. First is that I wager most everyone on this forum who participates is a lot of fun to just have a chat with and is quite loving in general. I bet if we shared skype chats together on a one to one basis with such people that the energy and discussion, the energy here would take on another level because we would actually know a bit more about the person behind the words and not just some label our mind likes to tag onto people.

So, if anyone wants to skype chat with me they can do so at Unified.Serenity. I suggest rather than just jumping into a hot topic that we actually learn a little about one another as we feel comfortable. I have found some of the most profound truths in such chats, and they are worthy of being put on youtube for their levity, honesty, and truth. I like the quote that a friend once said to me, "Remember no matter what I may say, I love you and I am your friend". When we remember those things first we tend to listen a little better to one another and not feel, well hopefully not feel as though someone is trying to paint us with a broad brush under some ideology that we do not agree. I also tend to be a bit more light in general chat than when I choose to write about a particular topic. Most of you only see my serious side, and I am sure I mostly see a little bit of you as well.

[Seikou-Kishi]

About bloody time somebody fired this Wilcock fantasy full of holes. We definitely do not see all of the control system, but we do see some of it; anybody who wants to (sincerely) remove the control system will want to remove it all. That means definitely removing the machinations we can't see, but it also means removing the tentacles we can. I get the idea this whole "mass arrests... oh, but you can't see them" is just a gorge on a dreamfest. Paul gave adequate explanation for the apparent stepping down of any financial devils in a way that better explained how they appear to have stepped down without completely disappearing.