"Do you believe in God?"

[Conaire]

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

P.S.

I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.



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[/COLOR]I cut and pasted this from my friends Facebook. I thought some of you folks on here would get a kick out of it. I did.

[Unified Serenity]

This is a good lesson, but in the pursuit of truth, I must let everyone know that there is zero evidence Einstein ever said any of this, it's just there to lend weight to the story. It's still a good story.

I always check snopes for validation of stories.

[Conaire]

Thanks Unified Serenity, you're right. I did an edit and cut the last line out.

(For the curious reader is said Einstein was the student. )

[greybeard]

The challenge is in defining what the word God means.
Chris

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

As long as man is able to move the goal posts & is able to play around with words to suit his argument, then man will always have a tool to justify the invisible man in the clouds & to keep an iron fist grip on the gullible masses.

[Conaire]

Hi Greybeard.

I don't think we can ever define what God is, at least not in our current 3d reality. It's beyond our comprehension. It's too too big and there are not words enough to define. Maybe by the end of the year we'll be more able

[Krullenjongen]

Great story Conaire, thanks for posting!
The first part is a good example of someone who does not believe because faith can't answer the questions he wants answered because the question is based on a wrong premise.
I see this a lot in real life.

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
As long as man is able to move the goal posts & is able to play around with words to suit his argument, then man will always have a tool to justify the invisible man in the clouds & to keep an iron fist grip on the gullible masses.

That may be so but isn't that the case with every faith or opinion in general???
Even your disbelief?

[Titan Orion]

I agree with Greybeard.

To answer the question, I do not "believe in God" in the conventional way.

I acknowledge that higher powers might very well exist, but I do not believe they are omnipresent, all-important, or worthy of worship. Nothing is worthy of worship.

Personally I think the original meaning of the term God was never explained to us, so we tried to fill in the gaps. And because we werent as "clever" then as we [believe] we are now, we didnt have a clue how to explain what was truly happening. An entity that couldnt be seen or smelled or touched came into our beliefs.

[Gone002]

This just shows that people are ill educated on christainity and the bible in general.

[Mu2143]

Some one who does not have the wisdom can't give you the answer to them

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

If a soul made the choice to leave this world then GOD won't heal him thats how GOOD GOD is ..

Professor: So who created evil ?

GOD did not create evil, but GOD created everything with the choice to experience GOOD or EVIL

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Satan did not came from GOD ,but he created Lucifer and made the choice to become Satan

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his semantic cap...

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality

If one starts with the premise of one universe then there can be no such thing as duality only portions of a whole or partiality if you will... it would also seem that the student must have used faith in duality to make a really really big bang...

[cloudno7]

I have no need of that hypothesis

Thank god i am saved

What if you are dead or badly injured ... will still thank god? i don't think so.

[seantimberwolf]

I can touch, taste and smell my god, i can talk to it, it takes any form.
It cares for me as i care for it.
It can kill me in a single lift of its finger.
And i can my god every day with a misplaced step but she forgives me for she knows i do not intend to hurt her.
As i forgive her as i know she does not intend to hurt me.
She can provide me with companions that i can communicate with despite not being able to talk.

But most importantly she supplies me with a miracle a day, when i see how the world works and connects,
She is mother nature, she is the sky, the thunder, the waves, the great forest of oak.
And i love her with all my heart, because my heart is hers.

[Eagle Eye]

Sorry to be so severe in judging but I think who doesn't believe in GOD (or similar concepts) is extremely arrogant or foolish.

[seantimberwolf]

Posted by Iceberg (here)
Sorry to be so severe in judging but I think who doesn't believe in GOD (or similar concepts) is extremely arrogant or foolish.

I agree Faith is Faith but i do not believe There is ONE god, there are many spirits that work in conjucture with the mother spirit of earth we are all connected.
Well i think so anyway

[DeBron]

Posted by greybeard (here)
The challenge is in defining what the word God means.
Chris

When I read that, I thought "Go Open Doors" which I feel would be an appropriate acronym.

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
I agree Faith is Faith but i do not believe There is ONE god, there are many spirits that work in conjucture with the mother spirit of earth we are all connected.
Well i think so anyway

Its normal that we have different opinion about concept of God but deny it is other thing.

[seantimberwolf]

Posted by Iceberg (here)

Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
I agree Faith is Faith but i do not believe There is ONE god, there are many spirits that work in conjucture with the mother spirit of earth we are all connected.
Well i think so anyway

Its normal that we have different opinion about concept of God but deny it is other thing.

I often think how people cannot believe in something more!
how borring life must be if you do not think something is there with you all the time helping and protecting you.
Why would you want to live without faith?

[evancruz1]

The genetic codes of all living things would suggest intelligent creation. God is just a descriptive word for something we cannot possibly comprehend in our mortal lives. Is God a he or she... We have no idea the actual make up of what we percieve as God. Is God just pure energy and love? Some would suggest we are god, all of us make up God. Or that we are gods feelers so to speak, living these lives possibly by choice. To experience life on all levels...

We see our friends and family die... This is part of life... I've lost my stepmother to lung cancer, my only to surving uncles are still fighting for their lives with bladder cancer and lukemia. We can't yet know the master plan of all that is... We can only speculate...
Of course we all love to speculate...

Life can be sad, happy, horrifying, and filled with beauty... For me to not believe in our most high is like saying we are all an accident waiting to go the way of the dinosours by our own hand. We are nothing but primitive beings with powerful toys... In the galactic scheme of things we are crazy teenagers with little grasp of what we are capable of. And still just like when we turned 10, we think we know it all.

I believe that good is all around us but the planet is severely out of balance. So many Avalonians as well as people waking up wish to see this balance restored and are working incredibly hard toward this goal. I thank you all for this! This is why I choose to spend what little internet time I have not for Facebook but for PA. Just my 2 cents... So much I've learned from so many of you!

Jonathan

[noprophet]

I have a long standing belief that the term god is in fact just a variable term from when we lacked words such as all, infinity, every-thing, etc.

We required a word that could symbolize everything--the complete system. Hence the now established, judaic dogma, "you cannot speak or write the name of god." These were not orders instilled to prevent some omnipotent being's feelings from being hurt, rather they were explicit instructions as to the nature of the variable.

As soon as these terms become "humanized"and interpreted outside their systematic structure they begin to form the basis of judgement rather than progressive enlightenment.