Has anyone else been feeling a tad mor "antisocial" than "normal "?

[Seikou-Kishi]

Just recently I found myself reacting very strangely to somebody. They were complaining that their life was very unsatisfactory and a wave came over me and I said something like "What is rubbish is your attitude. Do you expect to have a good life while you're acting like that? Your victim mentality and passive-aggressive attitude really are infuriating! You let horrid people walk all over you and then spill out your pent up bile on the people around you who want you to be happy — and you wonder why you're not happy!? This learned helplessness really is sickening 'if I roll over onto my back and whine with my puppy dog eyes, maybe somebody will give me their crumbs' — how do you not realise that is everything that is wrong with your life? Change it or put up with it, but for God's sake stop bitching about it"

I found myself not inclined in the least to sugar the pill or to relent, and it took my quite some effort to halt the verbal onslaught. I about stopped myself before I told her people like her were the reason the world was such a hell hole, but I certainly thought it pretty loudly. It didn't feel like me saying, but I think she definitely needed to hear it. Maybe this world is in such a mess that some of us have no choice but to withdraw from it periodically... it's a bit of a sanity saver.

[RUSirius]

I live in a difficult part of the world where you need to be very cautious of who you let in your life, so I have to keep many people a little at bay right now at least. I believe that many of us can raise the vibrations of the earth without being social, some of us are here to contribute in that manner, to raise the vibrations of the planet, and not necessary in an super social manner, some of us. I guarantee if most of us met with any of us, we would not consider any of us anti-social, due to our mutual amazing interests, we could ponder and discuss almost endlessly, I think if you just meet everyone with love, treat them as best you can, that is more important than being "social"..

[Fellow Aspirant]

For sure.

And with the anti-social trending, an upsurge in loneliness and sadness. I seek out some people just for company to feel "grounded" but almost no-one in my "real" circle of family and friends is interested in truth or spirituality. I do sing, now, in a community mens' chorus cause singing just feels so good, but it's only once a week. Even my wife just wants me to drop the subject whenever I bring up "conspiracy theories" or UFOs. She has NO interest, even in meditation, and only affords me a quiet space of listening ( ? ) if I get onto quantum theory or holographic reality. She feels my sanity is in doubt - and has threatened to leave me if I ever again profess to believe in moon bases or Dr Judy Wood type truths.

Thanks to some of the contributors to this forum, however, I feel that I'm not completely alone.

Namaste, one and all.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Oops I meant to post with a reply, as below.

I don't know how to delete this, though.

Scuse me!

[Fellow Aspirant]

Posted by TigaHawk (here)
I dislike people more and more im finding :S


All they seem to care about is the latest popular band, actors, magazines, makeup and who their current dream screw is.

Try to bring up anything "real" with them - ie how the carbon tax will effect us, flouride in the water, and they switch subject like you just mentioned a taboo, or laugh and just say "thats the way it is your dreaming if you think it could be otherwise"


That and my walk home from the trainstation is more and more frustrating. Especialy friday evenings.

Wish i could be wearing one of the US's superbowl outfits. Travel time is trippled purely because of the # of people en-masse that dordle outside shop fronts (they're walking the same way as you, all in a line so they're taking up 80% of the footpath, then one stops as they see something in the shop window, so all of them stops, and the "lane then becomes blocked") As the current look of burning hatred in my eyes just doesnt seem to work.

It angers me so much i think because theres so much going on in the world WHICH EFFECTS THEM, as well as everyone else around them, but they're completely oblivious, and seem to think the latest handbag or dress is much more important.

Yes! Years ago, a standup comic named Gallagher had a bit where he went on a rant about the dawdlers and blockers. I loved (and still do ) his solution: he had rigged a car horn up to a hefty 6 volt battery, and could carry the device like a large flashlight. His demonstration of the horn, which was incredibly loud, made everyone laugh, of course, but you could tell that everybody wanted one. These days, my fantasy involves the use of a small air horn. Haven't had the guts to actually do it, yet, but I'm gettin' mighty close!

[modwiz]

Posted by another bob (here)
As much as I sympathize with hermit mode (and in fact I've spent big blocks of time as a hermit myself), I have also realized that we came to this dance to get out on the floor and dance, and not hold back as wall flowers. Our reluctance can be rationalized in all sorts of ways, but life is always calling us to go beyond ourselves and jump in with both feet. Love wants us to love, because that's how it grows and spreads. By avoiding relationships, we're actually defeating the heart's deepest desire. Of course, every situation is different, and there are times when solitude is appropriate, but the opportunity presented by this life is a rare one, and that's especially true now. If people like us withdraw, what will remain to make the kind of difference we would like to see? Who are we serving by pulling away? On the other hand, by immersing ourselves in the stream and bustle of life every now and then, we will find that we are also served. That's what unity consciousness is all about, serving and being served. If it really is "all God", then what part of God is not worthy of being engaged? I suppose what I am getting at is, we need to question our reluctance too -- is the motive selfish and fear-based, for instance? It's important to look closely.

I am a massage therapist and although I live as a hermit, my time with people is up close and personal, to say the least. Conversation is often very much a part of things. Between the way I look and the answers I give, people realize they have entered another dimension when they are alone in a room with me. Gotcha! LOL. I carefully monitor how they are doing with any topic and will often self censor based on my sense of where they are. It is all part of being a professional and healing facilitator for me to not make them uncomfortable in any way that will not assist them. Since some of my work is deep and really get "in there" I allow for conversation to do the same if it will "work".

I eat in a common dining hall with hundreds of people sometimes, but I sit alone most times. People know I am approachable and friendly if they need to speak with me. I just do not find speaking and eating go together. Especially since some like to speak about their problems during a meal. That is a no no for me. Eating is sacred time and crapping on it with crappy talk doesn't work for me.

With all of the above said; my work provides me with plenty of socializing so my hermit time is seriously never an issue I need to examine. I am usually over-related at the end of any day.

You do bring up good points, if they apply.

[mosquito]

I've basically been antisocial all my life, apart from my drunken 20s. I hate small talk, and am totally unable to do it. Lately I've got to the point where I just can't bear being with anyone who isn't being authentic.

Much like Modwiz says in post 66, the area where I excel is in deep, 1 to 1 honest converstaions. I used to be a therapist, and this way of relating to people is very hard to shake off (not that I'd want to), expecially finding oneself back out in the world of inanity. In a nutshell, I'm a listener, not a talker. Strangley though, I DO like the other extremes of conversation, bawdy bar-room humour and general nonsense. I suppose it used to provide a balance to being 100% focussed on someone else's problems, and helped to ground me. Also, this type of banter is quite unpretentious. Give me the choice of a whore or a banker to talk to, and I'd choose the former every day.

Being a foreigner, I tend to attract different types of people who wish to engage me in conversation - children who just want to be friendly, this is possibly the nicest thing about China, the friendliness and openness of the children, and I love talking to them; men who want to show how knowledgable they think themselves to be by discussing politics or the "world financial crisis", topics which bore me senseless. When I do tell them my opinion, they never know what to do !!!! As I get older, the less I know and, to be honest, it's becoming increasingly dificult to talk about any topic with certainty.

But like so many others here, I don't in any way feel lonely ! I've always enjoyed solitude, and my time alone is very precious to me. When I need to get away from myself, trees provide the best company.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Mariposafe I'm so grateful you posted what you did; it was very insightful. I guess the distinction is loneliness-versus-being alone; being along is a fact, whether a physical/geographic fact or a social fact or whatever, but loneliness is a state of mind and a sense of alienation. It is that common thing "I can be lonely in a room full of people" and the opposite "I'm comfortable on my own". I've had periods when I've felt so disconnected from a higher spiritual world that I have had that attitude of a person in the middle of a depressive episode "I'm so alone. I have no will go to on. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so small" and then at other times I have those periods which might be called manic when the world is brilliant, overflowing with goodness and every little thing in it is amazing and actually not all that little and I am brilliant and great and powerful but it's even better than that because so is everybody else.

In both cases there's nothing different about the 'objective world', if that even really exists — the only thing that is different is the interpretative lens. I really do think depression and some forms of mania are respectively a weaker and stronger connection to a higher spiritual reality, almost as though people are too sensitive or 'innocent' for the world they've found themselves in. My point is that I think we are happy being alone and being different because what differentiates us is we have an ever-so-slightly wider crack in the doorway to the higher spiritual planes. I'm not saying that makes any of us better than anybody else (anybody who can see more can probably see enough not to make such distinctions) but we are comforted in the knowledge that this world is only the crust and we have the tasty, tasty pie-filling awaiting us.

I think a quote from a poem I like is relevant here:

"I sup above, and cannot stay,
To bait so long upon the way."

– Andrew Marvell, 'A Dialogue between the Resolved Soul and Created Pleasure'

[Timreh]

To put things in perspective mankind is really the one who is alone, having isolated himself from all living things, from our beautiful Gaia and Source itself.. what I think many of us are actually doing is finding ways to re-connect and that connection comes from within, maybe removing ourselves from all the noise and buzz is our way of doing that?


Me.. I guess I am switching off, maybe I am de-programming myself, whatever I am doing it just feels right, I just know, I don’t know what I know but I trust my intuition.
I don't understand all that is happening today but I believe in myself, I believe in those around me, and I believe in those that are yet to awaken..

[Alie]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
For sure.

And with the anti-social trending, an upsurge in loneliness and sadness. I seek out some people just for company to feel "grounded" but almost no-one in my "real" circle of family and friends is interested in truth or spirituality. I do sing, now, in a community mens' chorus cause singing just feels so good, but it's only once a week. Even my wife just wants me to drop the subject whenever I bring up "conspiracy theories" or UFOs. She has NO interest, even in meditation, and only affords me a quiet space of listening ( ? ) if I get onto quantum theory or holographic reality. She feels my sanity is in doubt - and has threatened to leave me if I ever again profess to believe in moon bases or Dr Judy Wood type truths.

Thanks to some of the contributors to this forum, however, I feel that I'm not completely alone.

Namaste, one and all.

Just say "'I really like me and it's ok if no one else does." This is what I say. Since I work 35 hours/week, I definitely get my fix with the world --- but I understand people. Most are in "survival mode" and it helps me appreciate their way of being.

Most people (like ourselves) have been programmed into sheeple. We can't be upset that they can't look beyond survival mode --- it's too much for them to think (their opinion) "like a freak".

And it definitely hurts when you know they think they are "smarter" than you and want to patronize you or "pat you on the head" just to shut you up.

It's ok. We're finding out why we're like we are. (And I like me just like this!)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Well, it seems we are all in agreement for once. Excellent.

I only have a few friends I can tolerate. None I can talk at length with about these matters. But since I've been at this since way before it was fashionable, I've learned to just say my truth and let it be. Few can argue for long, since I'm well armed. But I'm not a debater and I do not like conflict. But facts are facts.

What I've seen is that most already know something is wrong, really wrong. But they have not bothered to figure out what. Mainly because of the very effective programming they have received and continue to have upgraded by various sources. Some do not want to hear any of it and that's fine. We came here with memories erased for a reason. For some that reason has yet to be fulfilled. These are not ready to hear. But I find there are fewer and fewer of them. Unless I am being lead to those who need to or want to or are scheduled to listen.

It's all good.

I know there is going to have to be a reckoning for those that have abused their power and priviledge. I'm glad there are those amongst us ready to take on this task. I know that I am not. It is not my task, I feel.

I leave that to the light warriors or whatever they like to be called. My hat goes off to them.

Thanks

[Debra]

normam2,

Thank you for opening this thread. I have read everyone thus far and it is a learning again to take on board how others are making sense of feeling anti-social or, experiencing 'others' in our lives who will look at us like we are losing it

These days, I just create the space when someone opens my door a little. It is with these folk that I am here for. Although it would seem others are getting lost in this transition, I am always grateful when even just one person decides they want to know a little more. They are coming out, in their own good time, and hopefully we will all get busier.

Which probably leads to what I want to say about being anti-social. Sure, these days I like to spend time with myself and enjoy immensely my time here on Avalon. And, if I am not enjoying a conversation, I will find a way of moving on. But I check in with myself first - because there is a reason why I have put myself into this situation. In any situation, for that matter, where it calls for relating with somebody else. The point I am trying to make is, I figure that we also still have a lot to learn from others - even if we think they are not with the program yet.

Everyone comes into our life for a reason, and it is not only about us serving them. I believe that it goes two ways. They have something to teach us, and I look for that. I don´t know everything, that is for sure, but I do know that I still have a lot to learn.

Posted by normam2 (here)
So for this past couple of months I have been feeling more "antisocial" than normal or what the masses consider normal. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to interact with people and instead find pleasure in your own company. After all enjoying your own company is part of the self realization process during your awakening journey. Furthemore I feel that to truly love others you most first love yourself.
I most clarify that I have always enjoy my alone time I'm the oldest in a family of seven so I have always been around someone when I used to live at home. At school I had no problems talking to people and I'm sure no one would have consider me "antisocial" if they were to approach and interact with me . This trimester will be the last of my undergraduate learning if you can even call it learning , but up to this year I felt a decrease in my desire to socialize and make new friends.
Don't get me wrong if I could go for a coffee with anyone from this fforum just to talk about the conversations brought up here I would gladly spend the whole day doing it. I guess the thing that turns me off is people's lack of interest in what truly is worth contemplating and talking about, instead of how the latest Nikes have this cool new feature or how epic last nights winning play was? Etc etc
The funny thing is that I can't just go to my apartment and hangout with my roommate the whole day , is like i have an ...itch yea it feels just like that an itch. An itch to be around others but with no interaction PREFERABLY lol. Is like I'm in my ZONE , I'm the most comfortable when this is the case So I got to thinking and I was wondering am I a first wave or a second wave according to Dolores cannon I'm currently 22 . Or is it that I'm raising my vibrations higher compare to everyone else so you could argue that it would be uncomfortable to be around lower vibrations produce my them ?? My roommate has brought up the fact of this antisocial behavior coming from me . Anyone else behaving "anti socially"?

[Sidney]

You know, I was thinking about the being lonely thing, and the truth is, the only time I really feel lonely is when I am in the presence of people that are clueless. when I am ALONE, is when I am the least lonely. That said, I made some major progress with my kids. Ages 12 and 14. They all know I skywatch, and they too have seen the orb ufos, but in the past they still rolled their eyes at me like I'm off my rocker.
The other day in the car, not sure how we got on the ufo subject, I think one of them was talking about the life on mars stuff that was in mainstream. I told them that I believed that "others" have been on this planet for years, they are walking around right next to us and we dont even know. That they are not little green men, or even grey with huge eyes, but humans just like us, only smarter.lol Then, I told them to not believe me because I their mom. I said,"you know how to research on the internet, don't take my word for things, if you want the truth about whatever subject it may be, look it up, dig deep, and learn to listen to your gut instincts, and eventually you will know in your heart what the truth is.
The next day, my oldest said she wanted to star-watch with me, (and she was the biggest eyeroller out of them all). ; )

I apologize for drifting a bit off topic, but I do believe there is hope for the youth, if we can get them before the brainwashing is too deep. They are sponges for information, and when given the opportunity to feed themselves the information, they are more likely to be open to it than when it's forced.

[scarletfire]

Sometimes I feel like I've been planted in the middle of the twilight zone. I absolutely can't relate to the majority of views held by my peers and coworkers, its kinda like most folks subscribe to an image and accept the coordinating thought program without question. In my experience, questioning mainstream programming earns resentment as truth and reason seem uncomfortable to digest. On the other hand, I have developed great friendships with those who are able to catch on to dishonesty and selfish motivations in our society. Perhaps I am wishful thinking, but it seems like more people are starting to ask questions and less people look at me like I have two heads when I open my mouth. It may be nice to integrate into a more enlightened society one day as I've got a taste of it here at project avalon, I'm grateful for such a community.

[normam2]

Posted by starchild111 (here)
You know, I was thinking about the being lonely thing, and the truth is, the only time I really feel lonely is when I am in the presence of people that are clueless. when I am ALONE, is when I am the least lonely. That said, I made some major progress with my kids. Ages 12 and 14. They all know I skywatch, and they too have seen the orb ufos, but in the past they still rolled their eyes at me like I'm off my rocker.
The other day in the car, not sure how we got on the ufo subject, I think one of them was talking about the life on mars stuff that was in mainstream. I told them that I believed that "others" have been on this planet for years, they are walking around right next to us and we dont even know. That they are not little green men, or even grey with huge eyes, but humans just like us, only smarter.lol Then, I told them to not believe me because I their mom. I said,"you know how to research on the internet, don't take my word for things, if you want the truth about whatever subject it may be, look it up, dig deep, and learn to listen to your gut instincts, and eventually you will know in your heart what the truth is.
The next day, my oldest said she wanted to star-watch with me, (and she was the biggest eyeroller out of them all). ; )




I apologize for drifting a bit off topic, but I do believe there is hope for the youth, if we can get them before the brainwashing
is too deep. They are sponges for information, and when given the opportunity to feed themselves the information, they are more likely to be open to it than when it's forced.

Your anecdote brought a huge chuckle out of me because it reminded me of the incident that happened one time when I went home for the weekend to see my family. I was in the living room with my two youngest brothers , one is 11 the other 12 . We were just about to watch ancient aliens (the first time for them ) when a commercial about the new 9 11 documentary appeared out of nowhere my youngest says to my oldest "9 11 was fake , it was man made by America " to which my oldest said " no your silly that could never be " then turns and asks me if this was true to which I said yes. I was going to say more but the youngest took over and provided him with an explanation . To say the least I was delighted , my youngest talking to the older about the facts of the "real worl". I mean when I was their age I was still playing with barbies and could have cared less about this things....idk make you think "something's in the works"

[Cilka]

I am also guilty of being antisocial. I agree with Pilotsimone, sometimes we have to break free from the old herd on our journey of awakening. Though, I read somewhere that being antisocial is actually a mental disorder. I am glad that there are so many of you here who share with me the same mental illness. At least we don't contaminate the empty space around us with meaningless words.

[Sidney]

Posted by Cilka (here)
I am also guilty of being antisocial. I agree with Pilotsimone, sometimes we have to break free from the old herd on our journey of awakening. Though, I read somewhere that being antisocial is actually a mental disorder. I am glad that there are so many of you here who share with me the same mental illness. At least we don't contaminate the empty space around us with meaningless words.

Well if that's what it is, I am proud to be mentally ill. LOL

[greybeard]

Yes I am too----
Chris

[jorr lundstrom]

We are two hermits, living together. No problems. Ive said things that
people cant get all my life. If I wanna say sth today I talk to the cats,
the chickens and the daffodils and the lady. We are at the same level. I
dont say much to people in my daily life, why should I? Those who get
wot Im saying already knows it and the others just dont get it, and I
dont want any bill for their confusion. LOL






All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Humble Janitor]

I have this desire where I am simply sick and tired of the human race.

I have met more goofy, brainwashed people than I have ever wanted to meet. It's depressing to see that society has succumbed to the many things warned about by intellectuals and even movies like "Idiocracy".

We are the watchers indeed. We are watching the human race disintegrate.