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    Default Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to fruition

    This is not a post for those wanting to avoid stressful topics and face the reality of what is going on in the world despite the best thoughts and intentions of your heart.

    If you have read my posts about what I see coming upon the world, then this interview will not be a surprise, but if you are just waking up to the tyranny facing the world, then this interview while it's one of the most important things for you to listen to and investigate for yourself could be the difference between absolute panic verses being prepared as best as you can be.



    There is a reason government officials have bought huge tracts of land and built massive bunkers. There is a reason our governments have been building underground military bases for several decades and FEMA camps to house / process the population during crisis. Martial law does appear to be in the planning in the near future, and those who keep telling us that white hat do gooders are going to take out the bad guys are just going to cause many to not prepare. I implore you to listen to this interview for 2 hours. Make proper decisions based on FACTS, and not your gut feelings. Do your own research and see what has been going on in the world. Russia and China have been building massive armies and stockpiling armaments to fight a war with the West. We are out gunned, and it is necessary to wake up and do your own planning.


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    Default Re: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to frui

    thanks for posting unified serenity. listening now.
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    Default Re: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to frui

    Joel Skousen has been in the business of selling home security shelters and strategic relocations to high net worth people since at least the early 1980's. I've read him on and off over the last decade, such as at his http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/ website. He is -always- anticipating world catastrophe, such as nuclear. In 1982, he published a book called "Survival Home Manual: Architectural Design, Construction, and Remodeling Of Self-Sufficient Residences and Retreats", and has published similar books since.

    He sounds informed ... but to me he is indistinguishable from a fear mongerer selling his "book" (his services for providing secure arrangements for high networth individuals.)
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    Thanks Paul for sharing your views. Quite frankly, I do believe the ptb have been planning the demise of America for over a hundred years. I don't think it was insane or fear mongering for Mr. Skousen or others who watch world events and monitor psy ops etc. to believe we need to be prepared. The Soviets and other countries have been building shelters for their people for decades while America has done nothing for it's people.

    The facts of the armament build-up in Russia and China is hard to dispute. We have been in an economic war for decades now with Nafta and Gatt alone. Now, we are sunk via the bail outs and there is not way to pay down the debt or support the socialistic programs we have running in the long term. War is the best way out of debt, War is the best way to depopulate the world, and War / Crisis is the best way to get people to want to implement the changes they have ready for us.

    1982 is not that long ago to start preparing for world wide change. I think it is coming sooner than I would like it to actually.

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    Default Re: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to frui

    interesting point made around 46 minutes that "this guy named Drake"...... "it's not gonna happen"...... wow!
    regards, corson

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    I do not believe the Russians or Chinese have any plans to invade or be offensive. The Chinese are mercantile and only have designs on what they believe is their turf. Taiwan is something they believe is theirs and rightly so. I see it as theirs also, it is why Chiang-Kai-Shek went there. It was a Chinese island. He lost the argument.

    We are not outgunned. Our second amendment has guaranteed our safety from foreign invaders for a very long time. We would win any guerrilla war if it came to that. Our problem is we project our ugly expansionist dreams onto others. It is all in our heads. Our oceans on both borders are good insulation too. The tiny English Channel kept Britain safe during WWll.

    Armament build-up in Russia and China? Sharing a planet with the USA makes this an absolute requirement. Am I the only one here who sees the USA as the most dangerous country on the planet? Having a little demon whispering in our ear and owning our press and media is just one other reason to feel one needs to be well armed to keep the USA from trying to roll over you.

    Talk about projection. Sheesh!
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    Default Re: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to frui

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    War is the best way out of debt
    You're kidding, of course.

    We both know a way better way.

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    Default Re: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to frui

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quite frankly, I do believe the ptb have been planning the demise of America for over a hundred years. I don't think it was insane or fear mongering for Mr. Skousen or others who watch world events and monitor psy ops etc. to believe we need to be prepared.
    That could well be.
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    Quote Our second amendment has guaranteed our safety from foreign invaders for a very long time. We would win any guerrilla war if it came to that.
    It’s precisely why Japan did not even attempt to invade during WW2.
    They knew that 2/3 of the households in America had in their possession the ability to resist with extreme prejudice.
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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    I do not believe the Russians or Chinese have any plans to invade or be offensive. The Chinese are mercantile and only have designs on what they believe is their turf. Taiwan is something they believe is theirs and rightly so. I see it as theirs also, it is why Chiang-Kai-Shek went there. It was a Chinese island. He lost the argument.

    We are not outgunned. Our second amendment has guaranteed our safety from foreign invaders for a very long time. We would win any guerrilla war if it came to that. Our problem is we project our ugly expansionist dreams onto others. It is all in our heads. Our oceans on both borders are good insulation too. The tiny English Channel kept Britain safe during WWll.

    Armament build-up in Russia and China? Sharing a planet with the USA makes this an absolute requirement. Am I the only one here who sees the USA as the most dangerous country on the planet? Having a little demon whispering in our ear and owning our press and media is just one other reason to feel one needs to be well armed to keep the USA from trying to roll over you.

    Talk about projection. Sheesh!
    Agree with you all the way.

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    War is the best way out of debt
    You're kidding, of course.

    We both know a way better way.
    My pieces often mirror the thinking of the Illuminati and they definitely thing war is the best way to break the debt cycle. I think the best way to break it is to cancel all debt, get rid of central banking, and find a way to trade that is fair and does not work on creating any debt period.

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    It's a little hard to do battle with our lil handguns with their ships on the sea and planes in the air. Just because they have not attacked us in the past does not mean they are not intending to do so now. Of course, war in other lands where we are committed by the leeches in Washington D.C. via their Masters could be just as bad because when commerce stops, food stops, energy stops, then the chaos will ensue on the ground and those handguns may come in handy (pun intended).

    As a student of history I listen to the leaders of countries words and the Russian's most definitely have wanted to attack the U.S. for many decades. They said:

    Quote "War to the hilt between Communism and Capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in 20 or 30 years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures and unheard-of concessions.The capitalistic countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we will smash them with our clenched fist."
    - Dimitry Z. Manuilsky, Soviet Chairman of U.N. Security Council, 1949
    Disbelieve them despite the build up of armaments which dwarf our own. I choose not to turn my back on them.

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    These sites offers some insight into what may come:

    http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com...war-plans.html

    http://www.spiritoftruth.org/defectors.htm

    Here are some snippets of these two sites:
    Quote "America will be totally destroyed." - Col. Stanislav Lunev

    One of the most remarkable defectors in this regard is Colonel Stanislav Lunev, the highest-ranking defector from Russia's military intelligence services, the GRU. In 2001, Lunev was interviewed by NewsMax.com and HERE IS A CRITICAL EXCERPT THAT EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO VERY CLOSELY (full interview). Russia is pursuing an all-out third world war against the West in a necessarily secretive way, and it appears Moscow's plans are nearing a violent phase. (READ ABOUT RUSSIA'S SECRET NUCLEAR WAR-FIGHTING BUNKER.)
    "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
    "The great masses of the people.... will more easily fall victim to a great lie than to a small one." - Adolph Hitler
    "We have no right ever to forget that psychological warfare is a struggle for winning people's minds." - Mikhail Gorbachev


    Quote For decades, key defectors from the former Soviet Union have been seeking to warn the West that Moscow is still pursuing the destruction of America and domination of the West. They have done so at the expense of great personal sacrifices, sometimes costing them their very lives. Yet, these warnings have fallen on deaf ears amongst Westerners and the intelligence community that works at our behest. Consequently, the free world is imperiled as never before as the Kremlin's long-range "Final Phase" strategy to overtake the West nears successful completion. Until the people of this world who love truth, righteousness and liberty wake-up to the underlying historical deceptions underway and take a determined stand, the enemies of freedom will continue their diabolical long-range pursuits umhampered and tyranny shall prevail.
    http://www.spiritoftruth.org/defectors.htm
    Quote Jan Šejna (Wiki | Google) - One of the highest ranking Communists ever to defect to the West. A Czechoslovak General, he defected to USA in February 1968. Sejna was allegedly poisoned in 1997, possibly because of sensitive testimony in front of Representative Bob Dornan's U.S. Congressional Committee on U.S. POWs in 1996. Below is an excerpt from that testimony:
    To understand the events of interest today, it is essential to understand that back then the main mission of all organizations in the Soviet empire was to destroy democracy and bring people everywhere under the yoke of Communism .

    Two wars dominated our planning.

    First, there was General nuclear war, which was the responsibility of the military. Even civilian construction projects had to be approved by the Defense Council to make certain they all contributed to the war effort.

    Second, there was the political and intelligence wars, the world revolutionary war, as it was originally called. This war was also waged according to a very detailed and complex strategic plan. This war involved infiltration of the government and press, sabotage, subversion, deception, narcotics trafficking, organized crime, terrorism, compromise of political and business leaders, and many other activities, all designed to destroy competing social systems. The primary targets were all industrialized countries and the most important enemy was the United States.

    I want to point out that in these and other activities, the Soviets ruled their empire with an iron hand. All directions and controls came from Moscow. People undertook independent actions at their own risk, and the penalties were without any regard for human rights or dignity.

    I know, because I was there.
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    Default Re: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to frui

    Yes, the damned Illoonynaughties have been planning a nuclear WWIII for a long-assed time.


    Yes, the dark bastards really, REALLY want WWIII to happen.


    Yes, the dark bastards have been planning a total martial law shutdown of the US for many decades.


    Yes, the dark bastards really, REALLY want the martial law to happen.


    Yet those two things have not yet happened -- not for the lack of their trying! Those bastards have tried over and over and over again to start WWIII, but for crazy, impossible reasons, their attempts to start WWIII have failed ... not once, but repeatedly, witnessed by thousands of military people in the theaters of attempted war.


    Thousands of guns have failed to fire -- all a the same time -- with not one of them firing off. This has happened not once, but a number of times. Entire armies, entire groups of troops have had 100% failures of guns. Think about that. And those troops took those very same guns to their respective firing ranges and just about all of those guns fired just fine -- nothing wrong with them. Then they took those same guns to the theaters of attempted war -- ALL the guns failed to fire again! I kid you not!


    The Law of Averages dictates that anywhere from 2 to 10 guns out of a hundred guns would fail to fire for one reason or another, leaning towards the low side. Yet, of late, THOUSANDS of guns ALL FAILED TO FIRE simultaneously, blowing the decades-proven Law of Averages of the firing of guns that has held constant ever since guns came on the scenes of war.


    The failing of guns is a fact. Who gives a flying **** if it's not reported on the news? It's a fact.


    So, despite the intense desires for many parties to trigger the start of WWIII, despite the advanced state of our very reliable weaponry ... WWIII has not yet started? Who do you think has the power to overcome the Law of Averages to stop the start of WWIII?


    I can personally guarantee to you that WWIII will NOT happen and that we will NOT have martial law in the US.


    Those two things will not happen -- so why put your energy/attention on those two things?
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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

    My pieces often mirror the thinking of the Illuminati and they definitely thing war is the best way to break the debt cycle. I think the best way to break it is to cancel all debt, get rid of central banking, and find a way to trade that is fair and does not work on creating any debt period.

    Damn right! That's the way to go and that's going to happen soon -- worldwide, as when the elites are finally defeated, privately-owned central banking will be banned ... worldwide.

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