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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Avocadess - thank you for excellent notes - good question about Iceland - I found several alternative news sites that make that claim but then was able to find this link from Bloomberg -

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ery-story.html

    “You could safely say that Iceland holds the world record in household debt relief,” said Lars Christensen, chief emerging markets economist at Danske Bank A/S in Copenhagen. “Iceland followed the textbook example of what is required in a crisis. Any economist would agree with that.”

    Looks like there may be some truth to the claim
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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Ever see the movie, The Hand Maiden's Tale? It was the first thing that popped into my head while reading your post. It is about what happened after a civil war and the fundalmentalist christians won.

    http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=8VdFkF6vtLE

    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    Here is another show with Drake from April 10th (a Tuesday) that I never heard before...!! A friend of mine found it and just sent me the link:

    THIS ONE IS "DIFFERENT" IN THAT THE HOSTESS OF THE SHOW CHALLENGES DRAKE


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=SVt4I59EBWw (1 of 3)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=kERYX...hannel&list=UL (2 of 3)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=OuHgI...hannel&list=UL (3 of 3)

    Still listening to it. Sounds to me like the military may be messing with Drake a bit. (He didn't say that, but kind of seems that way to me.)

    I'll go find that link that quit working and see if I can fix it. That seems to happen a LOT with links to things with Drake. (Well, it's just the second link that has done that but seems like a lot to happen ever!) I did check that link after I posted it -- and at the time I posted it that link worked.
    There is a very heavy Christian Dominionist part of the armed services. The Air Force seems to be targeted because of their control of much of the nuclear ordinance. These people want Armageddon to happen so Jebus (that's the false, bloodthirsty version of Jesus) can lift them up into heaven. There does seem to be an aspect of it in some ground forces as well and it is these types who were behind the recent massacres in Afghanistan. With that said, and that some percentage of the military known to be resisting, it is to be expected that certain parts of the military will do what they can to make trouble. Given certain agendas, there is a very real possibility of these Dominionists and Turnerites having a least a loose alignment of purpose.

    That is what can be seen through the fog of war from the tower.
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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    I TOTALLY MISSED the first hour of the program -- which apparently was NOT recorded. Anyone who heard it live and can remember anything from that first hour would be much appreciated if you would share what you can remember!

    Notes from hours 4-5 with Drake (Deatra no longer on call):

    Re Mother Nature Drake said Mother Nature and God as far as he can tell are pretty much one and the same thing. Some things man thinks he is in charge of is weather and he's been screwing around with things he doesn't understand. He brought up "global warming" and his call dropped...
    Reconnected and Drake continued that the problems going on have to do with spiritual entity, "like it or not."

    We have a basic choice given by the Creator (or God). Each planet is an entity with its own intelligence and personality.

    Long talk about ancient religion, etc...

    HAARP has been used for extraordinary weather, earthquakes, tsunamis, lacks in certain areas (such as droughts). Mother Earth is about reached a stress point from such games being played.

    New Orleans built in a less than brilliant spot below sea level (and therefore not a smart place to rebuild).

    Nuclear reactors have been built on fault zones. Most nuclear reactors are not safe, and a good example is Japan.

    "Agenda 21 says reduce the population."

    Mother Earth is going to have to make some adjustments. "Hopefully she won't be too mad at us."

    Talked about cattle and wildlife...(I spaced out a bit in this part)...

    Monsanto is going to be disbanded. (Talked about GMO foods and how they are adverse.)

    Difference between free range and open pasture habitats versus other.

    Talked about gardening...and also then KNOWING what you are eating.

    Host (not Drake) pointed out that Obama Administration said that Pepsi using aborted fetal cells for flavoring research was "normal."

    Drake talked about melamine. Said he quit buying Hersheys when he found out they were using stuff from China.

    Recommends growing a garden and maybe getting some chickens.

    ...spaced out for a while again...

    Talked about how he adds ginger and whole ground cloves to his coffee...dropped off the show again...

    ****

    Dang. Wish I had not missed the first hour!

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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)

    So, this "magic" paperwork, which no one here has seen by the way, makes the rats scatter and jump ship? This paperwork is so powerful that it was attempted to be "stopped" but it made it through and now the whole paradigm is shifted?

    I want to see the paperwork. I want to see how the original organic sovereign states, which have been suspended and under the mandates of the Federal corporatocracy, have re-emerged and extricated themselves, and are now operating outside the fiat system of commerce, and how the military is aligning themselves with these sovereign immune nation states, and are ALSO extricating themselves as the global mercenaries for the cabal.

    Where is the basis of this difference "being shown?"
    @ gripreaper,

    LMAO, that's an awfully demanding post. I'll simply inform you that you're barking up the wrong tree. If you want those answers, I suggest you try to contact "Drake" via the Freedom Reigns Questions and Comments page.

    Besides I specifically transcribed the "super soldier/clone" segment for DreamsInDigital. "Drake" just started trailing off with the segment you quoted. So it wasn't even the point of my post.

    I've read your posts, and I fully respect your knowledge of the Sovereignty Movement, as well as, law. You are well versed, and I will admit that I am not. So there's no argument there. If you wish to have a discourse on this topic, I again implore you to contact "Drake" at Freedom Reigns. Clearly you have an issue, and I don't think it's going to be resolved by anyone on PA, although I know that Mozart has tried. I enjoy your exchanges, by the way. I find them informative.

    I know that you've posted on several threads regarding this specific topic, and that's certainly your prerogative. I, however, think it's an exorbitant waste of time. What, after all, have you concluded so far with your inquisition here on PA? That "Drake" is a disinfo agent, or that David Wilcock is naïve or a charlatan. OK, great. That doesn't really affect me because I'm at peace with myself. I'm prepared for whatever may come. So if these events that "Drake" speaks of do not come to pass, I'm still prepared. What do you, yourself, plan on doing about "Drake", David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford, the military, the liens, the paperwork, the Illuminati, or the NWO agenda anyway. Do you see now how pointless your point is to me. I was simply sharing some information with a fellow poster who requested it. All we're doing here is passing time. The paradigm shift is going to occur whether we post or not, and yes it's going to be a lengthy, and possibly dirty, process.

    Furthermore, what are laws other than (1) : a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules (Merriam-Webster). So essentially laws are just a set of rules agreed upon by humanity; therefore, what if human beings decide that they no longer want to play by the current set of rules? Are they still bound by the rules of others? Of course there are going to be consequences, but this is where sheer brute force comes into play. Whoever wields the power of the military will create the rules. So whether the documents are valid or not, if "Drake" and the military are really on the side of the people, then they are going to dictate the rules to the Cabal now. Maybe it's time for some new "memes" indeed. If the military is not on the side of the people, then what has changed except for some wasted time on our behalf?

    You are certainly welcome to respond, and given your posting history, I surely expect you will. Know this; I do not wish to further engage in this topic. You need to address "Drake" if want answers to your queries. Considering the tone of your post, I feel I have responded with as much respect as I could muster. Do not anticipate another reply regarding this topic. It does not interest me, nor does an extended debate.

    Good luck,

    A.S.H.
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    That's actually a good idea. I'll see if I can address this with Drake. No offense intended to you A.S.H. I respect you as well and your contributions.

    [edit] ok, just sent Drake an e-mail.
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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    Some of what Drake said:
    The importance of the package sent to The Hague for international publication is that is gives the civilians the way to get the help of the U.S. military.
    For Gripreaper - I am getting the impression that the 75% (Edit - 90% or so) or so in the military and the alphabets that don't want to see themselves and/or their families killed off, chips slammed in their heads and are tired of being poisoned amongst 80 other things on the list may be satisfied enough with these actions taken such that they would be willing to act for the people (us folks).

    In other words, perhaps there's some technical error in the usage of law that lawyers could wrangle about, but for some soldiers and spies and the rest of us... its enough.

    And I do very much respect all your input and in fact the post with the pyramid is in my all time top 5 and I send it to folks I care about.
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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Actually the figure / number is much closer to around 90%, btw.
    "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
    "Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."

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    Then Drake got reconnected to the show.

    Talks a while about Ascension...and what he believes about it.

    Gives coffee recipe with Folgers, ginger, cloves, hyssop sprinkled in, one or two blossoms red clover with some leaves and then makes the coffee. He likes to use hyssop because of how it was used medicinally in the Bible....talks about red clover cleaning the blood and anti-allergen...

    Talks about water...and about using colloidal silver in water you are storing...

    Talks about supplements he takes to get oxygenated...and how he can breathe better around a lot of plants...

    Talks about how the oxygen levels on the planet have dropped 40% or more since the 1950s...

    Asked about remote viewing, Drake said he became fully psychic as a child. He practiced remote viewing, telepathy, telekinesis, OBEs...recommends humanityhealing website (did not say whether .com, .net, .org or whatever). Also mentioned David Wilcock who he regards highly: because Wilcock does not play games with what he puts in his books and website, both of which have things that used to be classified. Remote viewing became popular for spying, etc....also used for contact with ETs...as an intuitive connection...which can be different enough to be difficult to "translate." Similar to making agreements with wasps and bees so they don't sting you anymore.

    Host says he does "remote listening" and cautions that if you do remote viewing you could be somewhat "targeted"...

    Drake mentioned "intuitive interconnection."

    Drake talked about importance of local community projects so we can have a strong country.

    We need to take care of getting rid of the darkness on this planet. "As you know, God and Lucifer had a disagreement....I don't know that that is his name....My research in the area and I could not find definitive information on this including access to Vatican....Everybody knows about the Biblical stated idea of good and evil as Biblically stated....This planet is the LAST PLACE where the darkness resides." When we finish that here, "it can no longer exist."

    There was a time that Drake got into the dark side, then learned it was not the place to be and get himself out of it and then got into as much of the good side as he could find.

    Stopping taking notes at about 1:30. (Too tired, haha.)

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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Actually the figure / number is much closer to around 90%, btw.
    75% good, around 90% even better.

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    That's actually a good idea. I'll see if I can address this with Drake. No offense intended to you A.S.H. I respect you as well and your contributions.
    @ gripreaper,

    No offense taken, ever. I just didn't want you to waste your energy or time further because I can not provide you with the answers you seek. I still revere your contributions to the PA forum, and I have utilized several of your posts to educate myself.

    I believe we are both trying to seek the "Truth" about our existence, as well as, achieve what we hope to be a better existence for all. Perhaps we go about it in different ways. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. As far as I can tell, we're on the same "team", so to speak.

    By the way, this is what contentious discourse between mature, confident, and respectful human beings looks like.
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    Excellent respone A.S.H. and my kudos to you too gripreaper! Well done...and looking for more from others here.


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    Default Freedom Reigns' comment about the ICJ and Hague Process

    Avalonians,


    Ok, I've deleted portions of certain personal comments in an email that I've received from Freedom Reigns in response to my query about the ICJ Process.


    I know who the author is, but I've not yet received permission yet to identify the author of this bit that was written, then sent to me via email.


    Here it goes:




    [EDITOR: This was sent to me by someone who is fully informed about the mass arrest process, but this person (sic) declined to be identified for safety reasons. I did a small bit of editing in the additions of the bold subject headings, a small bit of grammar work and any words that I added are in the square brackets, per the standard editorial process.]



    The Letter Explaining the Basis of the ICJ Documents

    This is the legal basis as best I can offer in limited time and space.

    Deep subject: How long can you tread water, Noah?

    The standard of fact is derived from the action.

    Actionable as represented by each of the entities.

    The entities hinge on the facts of residents, correct number of factual representatives and the basis of exactly what constitutes the representative number required for the action.



    Signatories

    [The] coordinator of [the] meeting, secretary, and three agreed cosignatories of witness and agreement, are [the] minimum [required].

    I offer that five (5) being the absolute minimum for this; adding two witnesses [for a total of 7 signatories] further renders validity to the action.

    All must be signatories to the documents as both participant principals and factual witnesses.

    These are requirements according to both our laws and the intended actionable resulting multiplicity of lawful impacts involved.



    How It Works

    The structure causes the coordinator and secretary to become pseudo-replacements, within the action, for the offices represented, and officially, through notice of action, the temporary true office holders.

    As only a notification, the action in and of itself, is a self-replicating authority of its own.

    Within the law are [the] confines and open-ended unconfined actions according to the content of the notification itself and its directed impacts. In basis, the notification is writing its own law as stated through the intent of the statement [of the declaration].

    This allows for the creation of [an] entity, or condition, or both -- just as a corporation's bylaws define themselves into the law of binding actions within a corporation.

    What you are looking for does not as such exist until the actionable notification is presented in factual form.



    Differences between Notification and Declaration

    There is a difference between notification and declaration.

    What was done was a product of both, better defined as a declaration than a notification.

    The declaration being the actionable, factual paperwork, where the process is defined as a notification with accepted receipt of delivery.

    Look into how a new nation derives its legal basis for notification to the world of its status as an independent state.

    This is exactly what was done.

    In most cases a representative group of rebels states their freedom from their old government [through the declaration]. Note that it is usually a minority that does so. After the acceptance of the action through recognition by an already standing state, the fact is accepted. As the lawful process is backed by a majority, then a replacement ensues.

    This goes to the recognition portion of this process. Our action precludes the recognition portion as it is a full separation or divorcement notification. Because the notification redefines the standing, through the content of the notification itself, the action steps outside the need for recognition. This allows for the pure action.

    In effect, allowing several collateral actions within the facts that stand on their own. A multiple [of] results through a singular action -- without going into extraordinary detail and citation involving whole texts -- the above is the gist of the action.



    How it is Effective in the Different Realms of ‘Law’

    When looking into our actions, I strongly recommend [for you to find] the connective portions of basis in and of law offering the correlation of the several types of 'law'. There is a great deal of redefinition allowing for cross-reference and exception.

    However, one should note that as any portion of one is used -- its collateral predecessor and precedent -- are offered as definitive parameters of use and definition. Thus the impacts of action in this usage/definition offers a wide diversity of basis.

    The precedent is the derivation and refinement of law itself using all the basis from which it is defined from origin to present.

    The reference should be contained in reference definition of international law as applied by civil authority. Add action and you have it.

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    I listened to the 4 hours and now unable to sleep. What do I think?

    I'm thinking ... I'm ready, I tried to tell extended family about this a few weeks ago and received a negative or no response, so I won't be sending any more info out. I'm going to make sure my loved ones have what they need, which means I'll store a little bit more food, get out some cash (maybe silver/gold coins and keep my car filled up with gas. Not much else to do. Not worried about others because I'm a bit tired of appearing the fool ... it will be shock and awe for them and then I'll guide/calm if necessary.

    I feel Drake's marathon talk indicates transparency. I got an indication about the coming fear/anger of the unprepared by listening to one of the callers --- her call indicated that she assumed that in the aftermath a similar replacement of government would be forced upon her and that she would have no choices.

    I think that she is representative of the initial feelings of humankind as they watch the crimes revealed. The answer to her was that the leaders put in place would only be temporary unless voted by THE PEOPLE to stay. That the rebuild would be local --- by everyone voting, first on the new structure of government and then for people to represent us.

    I remember in one of the earlier interviews that there would be an announcement from the white--house. I assume that will be from someone who would have a great calming effect (can't imagine who).

    Very interesting about Obama, Biden and Clinton (?) planes being grounded because of birds. This was not confirmed by Drake, but what was said and not said about it was very interesting.

    The word has been mentioned in earlier broadcasts --- "RESET" --- a tearing down and rebuilding. The tearing down phase is the action we're anticipating (top down), leaving the rebuilding (ground up) ---local community action --- we the people.

    Now perhaps I'll go to sleep.

    The only thing I know at this very moment is that I know very little. Even so, if you're a "watcher" and have been watching over many years, then like me, you probably understand the reason for all the "watching".
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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by A Simple Human (here)
    Drake
    The difference is that the basis of it is being shown. The, and I'll give you an example, the package of documentation the day it left our shore, they couldn't catch it. And it got away from them and it left our shore, here in the United States. It's the same day that the resignations started in Europe.

    They knew exactly what was going on, and couldn't stop it. And they thought, "oops, well time to go." It's gotten worse since then. Etc...

    A.S.H.
    So, this "magic" paperwork, which no one here has seen by the way, makes the rats scatter and jump ship? This paperwork is so powerful that it was attempted to be "stopped" but it made it through and now the whole paradigm is shifted?

    I want to see the paperwork. I want to see how the original organic sovereign states, which have been suspended and under the mandates of the Federal corporatocracy since at least 1871 with the Reconstruction Act, have re-emerged and extricated themselves, and are now operating outside the fiat system of commerce, and how the military is aligning themselves with these sovereign immune nation states, and are ALSO extricating themselves as the global mercenaries for the cabal.

    Where is the basis of this difference "being shown?"
    i am with you now on this.
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    if you want to know what is going on within the walls of the hague; simply go there.
    regards, corson

    http://www.haguejusticeportal.net/index.php?id=5535

    i have been digging for a case, and i cannot find one. sorry.
    corson
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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    Some of what Drake said:

    He claims that Iceland forgave all mortgages. (I've been going back and forth about believing that story. One Avalon member in Iceland says this is not true.)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Avocadess - thank you for excellent notes - good question about Iceland - I found several alternative news sites that make that claim but then was able to find this link from Bloomberg -

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ery-story.html

    “You could safely say that Iceland holds the world record in household debt relief,” said Lars Christensen, chief emerging markets economist at Danske Bank A/S in Copenhagen. “Iceland followed the textbook example of what is required in a crisis. Any economist would agree with that.”

    Looks like there may be some truth to the claim
    It is not true. This is not terribly important in this discussion about Drake, and I will hand him the excuse that working on National Sovereignty issues has a narrow focus, not a world view.

    There is another thread about Iceland on the forum, and I will update it later today when I can offer a quote or an article that is in-progress from someone who knows.

    And now, back to the Drake show. [That sounds bad, but I'm just trying to segue back to the thread's actual topic. If we're not real careful, people will start asking Drake a thousand very stupid questions - "What color are your eyes? or "Are you the second coming of Christ?" - and those that wallowed in the 'Charles/Atticus' material know exactly what I'm talking about.]

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    Quote Posted by Alie (here)
    ...I feel Drake's marathon talk indicates transparency. I got an indication about the coming fear/anger of the unprepared by listening to one of the callers --- her call indicated that she assumed that in the aftermath a similar replacement of government would be forced upon her and that she would have no choices.

    I think that she is representative of the initial feelings of humankind as they watch the crimes revealed. The answer to her was that the leaders put in place would only be temporary unless voted by THE PEOPLE to stay. That the rebuild would be local --- by everyone voting, first on the new structure of government and then for people to represent us.

    The word has been mentioned in earlier broadcasts --- "RESET" --- a tearing down and rebuilding. The tearing down phase is the action we're anticipating (top down), leaving the rebuilding (ground up) ---local community action --- we the people.
    I suspect many people have given up long ago dreaming about modifying the structure of governance. Many others have been focused on one, narrow, injustice or problem, and not the 'big picture.' Please allow what is written in The Reset Button document to serve as either a blueprint/framework, or as as starting point, or even for a source of material to start thinking about a couple of dozen of the biggest issues we face. It doesn't even matter if you disagree with most of it, as long as it gets you thinking. Remember too, The Reset Button is a collection of the thoughts of hundreds of brilliant people who have thought about and who have studied and researched these issues. This is not the work of one person.

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    Corson, I know something about law and international law works so when all these claims from Drake came along, I went and carefully read everything about The International Courts in The Hague and it was confirmed: Drake is talking a lot of BS. This is from the first interview:

    Quote NOTIFYING THE HAGUE

    DK: The person that took the notes was fairly knowledgeable in the real sovereign legalities and lawfulness.

    This person took that knowledge, in combination with what I had put together, got with some other people, and they said: Well yeah, let's see what happens.

    So, they put together a Process of Notification and they sent it off to the International Court of the Hague.

    [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...urt_of_Justice ]

    DW: Oh my God.

    DK: This is the Civilian Division, as I understand it, or Civil Division. And they, of course, sent a reply back when they received it, that they had received that package.

    The rest of it was a receipt of the intent of the package. They had made a copy of what they had sent, a Certified Copy of the original, that sort of thing.

    Now they're sitting on a package there, and the Hague's got one in their records.

    DW: Right. So now you have a complete paper trail.

    DK: Exactly.
    It's absolute rubbish, and this is just one example. The story also keeps changing and keeps on getting more incoherent, as an example:

    Quote The Letter Explaining the Basis of the ICJ Documents

    This is the legal basis as best I can offer in limited time and space.

    Deep subject: How long can you tread water, Noah?

    The standard of fact is derived from the action.

    Actionable as represented by each of the entities.

    The entities hinge on the facts of residents, correct number of factual representatives and the basis of exactly what constitutes the representative number required for the action.



    Signatories

    [The] coordinator of [the] meeting, secretary, and three agreed cosignatories of witness and agreement, are [the] minimum [required].

    I offer that five (5) being the absolute minimum for this; adding two witnesses [for a total of 7 signatories] further renders validity to the action.

    All must be signatories to the documents as both participant principals and factual witnesses.

    These are requirements according to both our laws and the intended actionable resulting multiplicity of lawful impacts involved.



    How It Works

    The structure causes the coordinator and secretary to become pseudo-replacements, within the action, for the offices represented, and officially, through notice of action, the temporary true office holders.

    As only a notification, the action in and of itself, is a self-replicating authority of its own.

    Within the law are [the] confines and open-ended unconfined actions according to the content of the notification itself and its directed impacts. In basis, the notification is writing its own law as stated through the intent of the statement [of the declaration].

    This allows for the creation of [an] entity, or condition, or both -- just as a corporation's bylaws define themselves into the law of binding actions within a corporation.

    What you are looking for does not as such exist until the actionable notification is presented in factual form.



    Differences between Notification and Declaration

    There is a difference between notification and declaration.

    What was done was a product of both, better defined as a declaration than a notification.

    The declaration being the actionable, factual paperwork, where the process is defined as a notification with accepted receipt of delivery.

    Look into how a new nation derives its legal basis for notification to the world of its status as an independent state.

    This is exactly what was done.

    In most cases a representative group of rebels states their freedom from their old government [through the declaration]. Note that it is usually a minority that does so. After the acceptance of the action through recognition by an already standing state, the fact is accepted. As the lawful process is backed by a majority, then a replacement ensues.

    This goes to the recognition portion of this process. Our action precludes the recognition portion as it is a full separation or divorcement notification. Because the notification redefines the standing, through the content of the notification itself, the action steps outside the need for recognition. This allows for the pure action.

    In effect, allowing several collateral actions within the facts that stand on their own. A multiple [of] results through a singular action -- without going into extraordinary detail and citation involving whole texts -- the above is the gist of the action.



    How it is Effective in the Different Realms of ‘Law’

    When looking into our actions, I strongly recommend [for you to find] the connective portions of basis in and of law offering the correlation of the several types of 'law'. There is a great deal of redefinition allowing for cross-reference and exception.

    However, one should note that as any portion of one is used -- its collateral predecessor and precedent -- are offered as definitive parameters of use and definition. Thus the impacts of action in this usage/definition offers a wide diversity of basis.

    The precedent is the derivation and refinement of law itself using all the basis from which it is defined from origin to present.

    The reference should be contained in reference definition of international law as applied by civil authority. Add action and you have it.
    Huh?

    By the way, Mozart, I am a very experienced editor and I recognise rubbish when I read it!

    But this whole Drake story is great entertainment value - better than TV!
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    Nothing was filed with the Hague. The notification and declaration was sent and there is proof that it was recieved. That is all that was needed. There was no need to record anything in the Hague. Drake has explained this many times.

    And yes we can call magic paperwork, the same as our ORIGINAL Declaration was "magic". Everything that they have done is "lawful" according to the Constitution etc. I now personally know several of the people who were involved in the first state who did this and have worked with DRake for months.

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    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)

    Nothing was filed with the Hague. The notification and declaration was sent and there is proof that it was recieved. That is all that was needed. There was no need to record anything in the Hague. Drake has explained this many times.

    Yes, exactly.


    And I would not be surprised if the ICJ failed to publish anything along the lines of what Drake is doing. It's my understanding that the paperwork that the people sent to the ICJ was based on the Common Law and there's nothing in the ICJ site that shows that ... on purpose, I suspect, as the ICJ is primarily a color-of-law governing body.


    Like the de facto governing bodies here in America, the color-of-law ICJ is built upon the foundation of the Common Law, but the actions today are primarily of color-of-law, so it governs only those who are acting within the color-of-law, legal-fiction and corporate world of "law".


    The paperwork that the reconstituted People in the several of the Thirteen Colonies were all based on Common Law. Common Law and Substantive Law trumps color-of-law, always.


    And it's time for the entire world to do a reset of their sovereignty and declare themselves sovereign and free from any sort of rule of law based on any sort of old laws going back thousands of years. We can do a reset of a new paradigm of new laws that respect the sovereignty of every damn real, living People on the Land every frigg'n where on Earth.


    And the foundation of the new sets of Substantive Laws can be based on the Golden Rule, the Law of Free Will, etc. The details will be sorted out soon enough, as we do live in a complicated world, so it's not going to be smooth sailing to settle into a new paradigm of a new set of ways of us to govern ourselves.

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