Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[DreamsInDigital]

Time is extremely fluid right now, trying to hold on to any specific dates or time frames causes unnecessary problems and stress.

[modwiz]

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
I have heard Drake's message. I'm not sure what to think of his message. The only thing I know for sure is that I am not going to be holding my breath for anyone to "save us" from a cartel that has control over nearly every major government in the entire world. The task at hand is akin to going out in your row boat to stop a cat.5 hurricane.

Mother nature will take care of this plague on mankind(the cartel). She is the only one quite frankly that is capable of completing the cleansing....in my opinion.

I agree, but to minimize collateral damage, us, she needs our help. Convulsing the planet is an inexact means of cleansing and we would end up as we have in the past when these things happened and had to start almost from primitive beginnings. Our help will allow us to keep our progress while we clean the planet up.

[modwiz]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Time is extremely fluid right now, trying to hold on to any specific dates or time frames causes unnecessary problems and stress.

I like that. It is the black magicians who get all kerfuffled about dates and things. It is better to launch a ship on the outgoing tide, but with sufficient people power, it is not a make or break situation. Also, bandying about dates is just dumb. Especially living in a goldfish bowl.

I have more thoughts on this, but believe it is better to hold certain things close to the chest.

Loose lips can sink ships.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
...After we win, and our opponents have lost their power, they will be much easier to love.

Now that is an amazing and wise statement. Even if someone among us is full of hatred for them (maybe even especially if someone is full of hatred), this is powerful metaphysical advice (not to create, harbor, or dispense hatred - just love.)

I hope I can follow it, when I get the chance to test myself.

Dennis

[Chester]

The collapse of the Dutch government. All this is - is that the government was unable to agree on a budget and they did not see any possibility any agreement could be reached so they submitted their resignation. The US many times has operated without coming to any budget agreement - giving itself extensions, etc. I am sure that they won't shut down all governmental based activities but it is a sign that people are beginning to draw lines. Apparently the Netherlands could not meet an austerity goal set by the EU which ironically they were one of the largest supporters in implementing the goal as an EU standard in the first place.

What makes the Netherlands interesting is their monarchy is quite powerful. Insiders I know state the Queen of Holland (Queen Beatrix) to be the actual wealthiest woman on earth but her assets are hard to trace as they are all buried in massive structures - many of them offshore. Also, we are well aware of the power of that bloodline and it has been reported that her son, Prince William, assists in the coordination of chem trail spraying.

In would say that trouble with Greece is one thing, but if the problem arising in Holland gets bigger, this would accelerate the collapse of the EU. Remember, the UK and France are on shaky ground so things could move quickly unless Holland does some rapid damage control.

[TargeT]

Posted by corson (here)
i do not want to make trouble, but i am listening to a mel fabregas interview with Dr. John Coleman regarding Tavistock. Towards the end he speaks about sovereignty of the United States...... all 50 states have their sovereignty from what he states. all 50 states are considered 50 individual countries. it is very interesting. i have posted the video if you would like to listen.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AXr6fkff6zg

regards, corson

This may be technically true, in actuality it is not...

A couple of examples:

State DOT's get tons of money from the federal government, so much so that they are close to not being ( or are completely lacking the ability to be ) independently able to function with out that "support".

Many agencies work this way at a state level, it's a wide spread problem & a direct affront to the 10th amendment....

The worst (and most extreme) example is the state national guards, they are completely funded by the federal government & are so closely tied to it that they would barely function ( or not function at all) with out the federal governments support.

So if the states own "protective forces" are this deeply compromised; how sovereign do you think they truly are?

[bekrah]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Time is extremely fluid right now, trying to hold on to any specific dates or time frames causes unnecessary problems and stress.

Thanks for posting that, I needed the reminder, it helps.

[KiwiElf]

...a key is what he [Drake] said about Avatar (the movie)... then went on to talk about the life force connection with every living thing... the Earth itself is a conscious "entity", HAARP etc etc. If you missed it, it's very interesting stuff.

While we await the next instalment ... I found this doco to be relevant background to my earlier post... enjoy!

"Hidden Human History"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw

[bekrah]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

...a key is what he [Drake] said about Avatar (the movie)... then went on to talk about the life force connection with every living thing... the Earth itself is a conscious "entity", HAARP etc etc. If you missed it, it's very interesting stuff.

While we await the next instalment ... I found this doco to be relevant background to my earlier post... enjoy!

"Hidden Human History"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw

I like spirit science, they post some interesting stuff.

[Cjay]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
I have heard Drake's message. I'm not sure what to think of his message. The only thing I know for sure is that I am not going to be holding my breath for anyone to "save us" from a cartel that has control over nearly every major government in the entire world. The task at hand is akin to going out in your row boat to stop a cat.5 hurricane.

Mother nature will take care of this plague on mankind(the cartel). She is the only one quite frankly that is capable of completing the cleansing....in my opinion.

I agree, but to minimize collateral damage, us, she needs our help. Convulsing the planet is an inexact means of cleansing and we would end up as we have in the past when these things happened and had to start almost from primitive beginnings. Our help will allow us to keep our progress while we clean the planet up.

I would like to add that "convulsing the planet" would cause unimaginable pollution world-wide that would take millennia for mother nature to cleanse.

[Cjay]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
A simple rhetorical question: Do you think the real plan will be revealed in any public forum - including this one - for all to see?

No.

Can you imagine any type of conflict, military or otherwise, where either side would release their strategy in advance?

[Ishtar]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

The problem is if drake is 100% serious about what he's doing then the factual innacuracies are a dead giveaway something's up

With regards to inaccuracies, and I hope this applies.

I am sure quite a bit of detail went into planning D-Day. I am also sure quite a bit of on the ground realities led to last minute changes before the launch. We know once it launched many things changed, by the minute and hour. We are about to be in some sort of battle, because the elite will not go quietly and have orcs in their employ.

Most dinner parties have some glitches. Looking to our own preparations and having an idea to what we can contribute makes us partners in this effort.

Everything else is neurosis and enjoying our own voices. This is a real lesson in centering ourselves and showing what we are capable of. I do believe the galaxy is watching.............and listening.

There's a difference between planning an attack, which deals with physical/mental realities on the ground. You might need to move locations, deal with supply problems, morale, etc. All of these are tangibly defined things that is reasonable to expect change upon. (Which could excuse things such as tactics/dates being changed, that said...) Going on a radio station to begin doing PR, and then directly getting the facts wrong ON the air, multiple times regarding the most important part of the entire event (The legal basis and evidence for the legal basis for this act)? To use your dinner party metaphor that would be a mistake akin to me replacing the usual setting with a chainsaw, a paintbrush and a pair of tweezers, after being informed that I had assigned my guests home-improvement tools as utensils responding that I didn't think dinner parties needed things like "Silverware" to work because it doesn't matter what utensils you use to eat with so long as you have utensils. Can we perhaps see why there is a very direct and distinct problem in someone claiming to be all about promoting awareness for a "lawful mass arrest" event when they can't even properly enunciate the legal basis and locations of their filings and evidence which give proper lawful cause to do this?

There really are only two options here. 1: He doesn't know what he's talking about at all, or 2: He's putting out disinformation. Now, that being said there's a certain irony here in that the disinformation could be part of an intentional double-bluff. The Financial Tyranny piece by David Wilcock had said that the original bonds involved in the supposed lawsuit ongoing against the Federal Reserve were printed with deliberate spelling errors so they could not be redeemed. This could also mean that the entire situation we have right now with Drake's releases are being intentionally written so that he can go out in public and say what he does, while not becoming a target of violence. Using the enemy's tactics against them.

If people think you're just some hick who loves the 50s and doesn't know the first thing about law or where to send paperwork to then the powers that be would probably just write you off as a lone nut and never give you a second thought. Putting out a contrary image as a smoke screen since as most people can already tell by this point in the thread, no amount of pointing out the factual innacuracies in Drake's PR has changed anyone's opinions so much about the inevitability of the actual event.

This would allow for the "spirit" of the message about oncoming mass arrests to be transmitted without jeopardizing any possible actual legal basis for those arrests. Making it a perfect play, if it's real. You'd keep your real hand hidden as far as members, operations, resources and evidence while being able to quickly spread public awareness prior and all with those about to be arrested none the wiser thinking it was just some crazy person.

Still, this all hinges on the event actually occurring. I try to look at all of the possibilities, I want this to happen but more than anything, but it's exactly because I want it so bad that I'm so critical about it. Nobody wants to be duped, eheh. ^_^;;

Thank you. That's about exactly where I've got to with this, but I couldn't have put it so well.

I think the alternative community may be being used and manipulated to support (at the very least) this action, and I don't like being manipulated, or feeling that I'm being manipulated, no matter how worthy the cause.

My experience is that the universe resonates with truth, and so nothing good can ever come from a lie.

Sometimes people believe that the end justifies the means. But in my view, the very fabric and nature of the end is constructed by the means. The means actually create the end, in other words. The means have an impact on how the outcome looks and feels and they also implant a seed into the outcome which contains the means of its eventual destruction. We are co-creators of our own destiny and need, therefore, to act in truth and under truth at all times.

The ancient Vedics put it this way: Sat Chit Ananda. Sat (Truth) is the Chit (Consciousness) of Ananda (Bliss or Goodness). The ancient Greeks put it slightly differently ~ their three pillars upon which the universe was constructed were named Truth, Goodness and Beauty. Without these three pillars standing firm, the centre cannot hold because they are all aspects of each other ~ in other words Truth=Beauty and Beauty=Truth and Goodness=Truth and so on.

In recent years, coming across "The Truth Movement", I have found so much lying and subterfuge and sleight of hand puppetry and pink smoke that I have begun to suspect anything that has the word Truth in the title. Truth has become the new Lies, in so many cases.

So until I'm sure I'm not being lied to, I will remain sceptical of Drake and this whole movement.

[modwiz]

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
I have heard Drake's message. I'm not sure what to think of his message. The only thing I know for sure is that I am not going to be holding my breath for anyone to "save us" from a cartel that has control over nearly every major government in the entire world. The task at hand is akin to going out in your row boat to stop a cat.5 hurricane.

Mother nature will take care of this plague on mankind(the cartel). She is the only one quite frankly that is capable of completing the cleansing....in my opinion.

I agree, but to minimize collateral damage, us, she needs our help. Convulsing the planet is an inexact means of cleansing and we would end up as we have in the past when these things happened and had to start almost from primitive beginnings. Our help will allow us to keep our progress while we clean the planet up.

I would like to add that "convulsing the planet" would cause unimaginable pollution world-wide that would take millennia for mother nature to cleanse.

Was it clear I was referring to Her convulsing to cleanse Herself? Your reply makes me think clarity was a casualty in my post.

[sdv]

Ishtar, what you say here resonates with me:

Sometimes people believe that the end justifies the means. But in my view, the very fabric and nature of the end is constructed by the means. The means actually create the end, in other words. The means have an impact on how the outcome looks and feels and they also implant a seed into the outcome which contains the means of its eventual destruction. We are co-creators of our own destiny and need, therefore, to act in truth and under truth at all times.

How can you act to defend and uphold the Constitution by bypassing it? Does not the Constitution of USA say 'We the people'?

I don't know why alternative communities such as this attract manipulative people or what they get out of it (but perhaps thyey are opportunities for us to wake up). Have a look at the following:

Like 9 days ago he talked about in 2-3 days the fed would have something serious happen and people would hear about it. WHAT EVER HAPPENED? I can't find anything that supports his claim and its well over the time limit he gave. HALP ME SEE THE LIGHT PEOPLE!!!

Scroll back a few pages re "Dutch Government collapses" or words to that effect...

There is a prediction that 'something' would happen and people would hear about it and a vague reference to 'the fed'. Then, 'proof' is given because there is a media report that 'the Dutch Government collapses'. Huh?

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks all.

I still think Drake's original show explains his messenger status to a limited cultural sector, alone... His recent show (2012-04-22B-32kbs-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-hours-4-5.mp3) sounded much more "health and well being" oriented to that specific mentality, (thankfully less militant). That level of advice on well-being is perhaps a step-upwards for the junk-food culture. A primer for self-defense from agent-orange, mad-cow, GMOs. etc? Even a touch of non-sectarian-spirituality and denominationalism? At the least it does not sound like witch hunts ^__^ Just old, alternative info recycled for the slower minds, which were too engrossed in gun lore previously. Perhaps this trend is finally seeping into the Military and tptb hide-aways. Eh?

We may need to supplement life, with many global tipping points, spilling over now. There are dozens of other large occurrences in progress. I'll keep listening and respect all moves to better appreciate the earth. Hoping that the Native Americans will not sell short-- In case the sovereignty deal bears fruits. No need to wait impatiently-- So much to study nowadays.

I like to use 'fear-bytes' as a precursor for invigoration. I've primarily been a manual-laborer of the trades, in this lifetime. So all this excitement invigorates my mind to trudge along with simple tasks at hand. Manage a lifestyle quarantined by the greater distractions at large. We may be getting out of the slave boxes at differing times. But many are almost climbing out by now. Are we all together now, with all the TPTB, in the next bigger box? Are these folks realizing the bigger picture yet?

The king and the pawn go back into the same box, when the game is over. (Italian saying)

[sdv]

Bekhra, thank you so much for trying to get information. There is no such thing as the International Court of Justice, Law Department. Not the "Hague" but in the same building? The building in which the ICJ resides in The Hague, a city. This is absolute hogwash and is an insult to your intelligence.

"Thank you for your email. Of course there is a papertrail. We will release the paperwork (filed at the International Court of Justice, Law Department, not the "Hague" but in the same building) on the internet as soon as we get the green light from the people who risked their lives to get this done for all of us. You won't find the proof anywhere because the current corporate government does not want you to have proof that you are free. There are people at the ICJ whose job is specifically to interfere with the notification process and they have no limits on how they accomplish this."

[sdv]

Enjoy the intelligence of the literary metaphor Unified Serenity:

At this point I think Drake should be arrested for indecent exposure! If you unzip your fly and just leave "it" hanging out for weeks, then it does not appear you are intending to actually relieve yourself, but are doing it for attention.

[Ishtar]

Yes, I agree, sdv. But as I'm sure you know, Benjamin Fulford has been operating that kind of MO for years. He's always just one step behind the news, and he reinterprets events from what we're being told about on the mainstream media to fit his own narrative. He could be right ... but we have no way of knowing 99.9 per cent of the time, any more than we can know if the mainstream media interpretation is the correct one. So what we tend to do is to choose the story we want to believe according to how well in fits into our worldview ... which in itself has been shaped by various narratives from the media (either mainstream or internet) which cannot prove or disprove.

I said this in another post, but it bears repeating again.


Plato's Cave



We're all in Plato's Cave here ... tied up, in the dark, and facing a wall upon which the puppet masters are throwing different shadows.

In this kind of scenario, it's stupid and dangerous to argue about which shadow is the 'white hat' and which shadow is the 'black hat', as we're entirely at the mercy of those pulling those strings behind us, who've trained us in what each shadow means.

All we can do is go with our gut instinct and follow that ... not what others tell us to think, or try to bully or intimidate us into thinking, or threaten to excommunicate us from the club for thinking. Instead, we can only put our trust in our own body's inbuilt intelligence and early warning system.

So all the more important to try to verify what and where we can .... and if Drake's legal claims do or don't stand up to scrutiny, then at least that gives us some solid ground to stand upon. So far, we cannot know, because no documentation has been produced.

It's called doing 'due diligence'. David Wilcock continually reminds his readers to do their own due dligence... so I would seriously suspect the agenda of anyone that tries to disrupt that process.

[sdv]

Very wise words Ishtar.

I just have low tolerance for BS, especially when it is full of blatant errors, and so tend to shriek shrilly when I see it!

Every Drake is an opportunity for us to wake up to the power of our minds and how we create our own reality, and an opportunity for us to consider what kind of reality we want to create.

I just see people being manipulated and enslaved and used, and eventually suffering for it, and I feel compelled to speak up.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)
It's now time to sharpen up our pitchforks, load up the ammo, pack bags of wrist twisty-ties and support our Oath-keeping county sheriffs, our Oath-keeping US Marshals and our Oath-keeping military to GO AFTER THE EFF'N BASTARDS WITH THE FORCE AND POWER OF THE SOVEREIGN PEOPLE.

Hi Mozart, I felt exactly like that in my early awakening days, exactly. Upon first recognition of the lies and betrayel I was like "lock and f*****g load baby! This s**t ends here and now!"

Well, you know what mate? Do what you need to do, but I'm going to tell you that is a sure fire path to self destruction. It will consume you relentlessly until either you are physically dead, or there is nothing left of what used to be you.

To boot, you will have changed absolutely nothing, except exposing yourself to an energetic feeding frenzy by the very forces you wish to depose on your way out.

Like I saw a wise person (Wade Frazier) on this forum once say: "Love is the only way out".

Cheers,
Fred

Good to see you back Fred. When nasty people are either trying to put you and your family into FEMA camps or trying to silence your voice, sending them Love will not be a good defence at all. You may keep that for better times when you are in jail. At least it will stop you going mad. There is a time and place for everything methinks. Sometimes certain things are in the wrong time line or place. Protecting yourself from evil persuasion by standing in light and throwing out Love is a good way to protect oneself. But when evil is manifest in front of you with a machine gun, boy it's too late for that kind of defence.

Stan

Hi Stan, of course you are correct sir. This is a tricky subject. What I was referring to was about going to war against this system we all know and love.(LOL) Self defense is a whole different deal. I presume to have made my position clear on that in past conversations, but if not here's a hint. Here in Florida we have the now infamous "stand your ground" gun law, and I like it.

Cheers Mate,
Fred