Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Avocadess]

Nearly 4 hours of the recent April 22 radio show with Drake is now on YouTube:

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=LtqAuvm6gTw

NO ONE LISTENED TO THE FIRST HOUR THAT WAS NOT RECORDED? REALLY? IF YOU HEARD IT PLEASE TELL US ANYTHING YOU REMEMBER FROM IT.

I want to stress that the notes I transcribed in previous posts from this interview were VERY abbreviated and did NOT touch on everything talked about. Drake talked about Gaia being a living thing quite a lot at the very end of the interview, by the way.

[Avocadess]

Some things I left out in previous notes:

The arrests will not go much lower than Governor.

The People will be seeing several different plans for a government for this country very similar to what we originally had. The People will pick from these several structures, which will be on display at the voting places.

There will be more State power as it was originally.

Asked about Argentina's seizing control of the oil companies, Drake said that is going to be dealt with in a way that the Argentinian government will not expect. He could not say much more about that.

The new structure will disallow the "good old boy" system and there will be much more transparent government.

He talks about how Japan is basically unsafe to live in, although the mainstream media is not saying this. The problem is the TYPE of radiation. One molecule can ruin an individual permanently. And the people that set up that horrific situation did it for money. Drake talked about evidence of an explosive device moving the tectonic plate. They talked about Admiral Thrall and how Thrall and the Clintons visited Japan just before the tsunami. These people feel they are immune, and that is soon to be rectified.

Host talked about Admiral Thrall's connection with BP oil spill and in charge at Hurricane Katrina.

Drake answered NO, he is not a member of White Dragon nor White Knights.

Asked if people's money in banks will be protected, Drake said everything will be zeroed out. Banks that are small and local will not be taken down. He went on talking about this in a way I don't really understand well enough to take notes on. Things will be revalued apparently and people will be given certain amounts according to their "needs, not greeds." You can hear this all yourself starting about 40 minutes into the 4-hour YouTube video.

"Think about the IRS. All of it....Think about the record keeping and the files we are going to have to go through....Then you get into the Treasury...." and it goes on and on.

The Catholic Church owes hundreds of billions of dollars it does not have.

They talked about border security and how the people who live in those areas know what's going on. The people who are really good at knowing what is going on both civilian and military have been gotten rid of -- primarily for the ruination of America. We, the U.S., are the last bastion and point of birth for freedom on the planet.

Host mentioned that banks are foreclosing on a lot of Catholic and other churches.

Asked about homes being taken from people, Drake said Terri would be one to address that better on FreedomReigns.US. Deatra said to follow over to the blog about debt elimination.

The bad guys are running out of options. The last-ditch effort is issuing the executive orders and regulations that obviously go against any form of rights and freedom. It is a scare tactic in Drake's estimation. These people are going to have to answer for crimes against humanity. The majority of these people are going to be put in the FEMA camps they built for us.

The host said the first hour of recording was HACKED. PLEASE SOMEONE TELL US WHAT WAS IN THE FIRST HOUR.....?!!!!

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Nearly 4 hours of the recent April 22 radio show with Drake is now on YouTube:

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=LtqAuvm6gTw

NO ONE LISTENED TO THE FIRST HOUR THAT WAS NOT RECORDED? REALLY? IF YOU HEARD IT PLEASE TELL US ANYTHING YOU REMEMBER FROM IT.

I want to stress that the notes I transcribed in previous posts from this interview were VERY abbreviated and did NOT touch on everything talked about. Drake talked about Gaia being a living thing quite a lot at the very end of the interview, by the way.

Someone is bound to have it sooner or later

I listened to the last 4 hrs. I wondered if "Gaia" was who he meant? (his pronunciation = Geeya).

We... the human race,... every living thing... "nature/God/Source field" - we're connected/part-of the spiritual/biological/"entity" that is the "Earth"... which I would interpret as our "thoughts", both conscious & subconscious... just an idea

EDIT: Sabrina has just announced possible Cabal Takedown Advisory on her site

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...205#post474205

[YvonneG]

The first hour of april 22 show was hacked or something and they were not about to record. But Avocedess, you are right someone must have heard it.

[aranuk]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)
It's now time to sharpen up our pitchforks, load up the ammo, pack bags of wrist twisty-ties and support our Oath-keeping county sheriffs, our Oath-keeping US Marshals and our Oath-keeping military to GO AFTER THE EFF'N BASTARDS WITH THE FORCE AND POWER OF THE SOVEREIGN PEOPLE.

Hi Mozart, I felt exactly like that in my early awakening days, exactly. Upon first recognition of the lies and betrayel I was like "lock and f*****g load baby! This s**t ends here and now!"

Well, you know what mate? Do what you need to do, but I'm going to tell you that is a sure fire path to self destruction. It will consume you relentlessly until either you are physically dead, or there is nothing left of what used to be you.

To boot, you will have changed absolutely nothing, except exposing yourself to an energetic feeding frenzy by the very forces you wish to depose on your way out.

Like I saw a wise person (Wade Frazier) on this forum once say: "Love is the only way out".

Cheers,
Fred

Good to see you back Fred. When nasty people are either trying to put you and your family into FEMA camps or trying to silence your voice, sending them Love will not be a good defence at all. You may keep that for better times when you are in jail. At least it will stop you going mad. There is a time and place for everything methinks. Sometimes certain things are in the wrong time line or place. Protecting yourself from evil persuasion by standing in light and throwing out Love is a good way to protect oneself. But when evil is manifest in front of you with a machine gun, boy it's too late for that kind of defence.

Stan

Hi Stan, of course you are correct sir. This is a tricky subject. What I was referring to was about going to war against this system we all know and love.(LOL) Self defense is a whole different deal. I presume to have made my position clear on that in past conversations, but if not here's a hint. Here in Florida we have the now infamous "stand your ground" gun law, and I like it.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

Fred can you tell me about the stand your ground gun law please?
There's lots about USA that I know about, but lots more I don't. It's funny that I know more about what is going on in America than I do about what's going on in Scotland. If the ET's landed in Princes Street I would probably be te last to hear about it. I know I'm bad, but the action doesn't seem to be happening here.
Well that's my flimsy excuse anyway.

Stan

[Avocadess]

Haha. Well, Drake pronounces a few words funny, so it didn't surprise me that he said GHEE-ya instead of GUY-ya. I do believe he spelled it, though, as Gaia.

[aranuk]

Scotland is not however immune to conspiracy. A short story. At the end of 1978 when Margaret Thatcher was PM the General Election resulted in 9 Scottish National MP's were elected. There was a wave of SNP support, so the news media were saying that electricity pylons up north were being blown up and that the Tartan Army were accepting responsibility. This went on for weeks before the next election. As a result of these lies the SNP (Scottish National Party) went down to one seat One MP and lost about 50% of the votes. Of course the MI6 were the culprits and the Tartan Army didn't exist. There is also the Holly Grieg case which is ongoing and the release of Robert Green from prison on trumped up charges is being released on 21 May. The corruption with Satanic groups in high places is known but covered up as it could lead to London and possibly the world being exposed.
Our good Mod Murray has a thread here about the Holly Greig case. It is very interesting.

Stan

[YvonneG]

Militia folks sure have a way of cutting right to the point.

One says this in a thread on wram:

"One thing is for sure "sis" is sure gona hit the fan"...not my choice of words.
The other comment is this:

"well i look at it like this.....we are the largest armed population in the world...and we are tired of turning our heads the other way"

In then end it is not going to matter what we believe or our views even. There have been times I have made it more important
to make a point on the forum because I do believe Drake, and my beliefs have some substantial evidence for me because of the
8 years I have spent researching and the people I personally know etc.

However, all that being said, I feel that being ready personally spiritually however that is for the individual and spend some quality time "outside" of the maze of our views and beliefs, is a very good idea. And of course preparing with food and such.

May All Beings Be Happy, May All Beings Be Free of Suffering

Yvonne

[YvonneG]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
Of course, the real question becomes just how much organization and actual, legally admissible documentation can be counted upon by someone like this?

Drake was not the one organizing anything. The Plan has been around for 20 years. For the states and their paperwork and documentation, it was done by some long time patriots and they organized within their own states. I personally know some of them now. These people I know aren't believing anything. They were involved in it all, they feel that Drake is the real deal, and for me that is enough for me to consider this true, as much as I would consider someone who comes to me with some thing which they say is personally known to them.

I don't see it getting any strong then that me, except for the events themselves.

May All Beings Be Happy

[AuCo]

I am buried in this 3-D world so deep and so long, I forgot what it was like in anything else. Is it a bad thing? Don't know, just seems quite a challenge though. And while many folks can differentiate a multitude of colors in what Mr. Drake is saying, I can only perceive black and white, and the vast shades of gray in between. Therefore I must resort on what this world has to offer between my ears - low level reasoning.

This is what I've heard from Henry Deacon "There are sheep and there are wolves. We [the military] are the wolves."

And what is it that President Eisenhower was so concerned about the "military industrial complex."

NWO or not, we are all in an Earth bound arena, with a very earthly problem: there are people who want to consolidate power, to rule the world. For a litmus test to Drake's testimony, look elsewhere, like what's happening on the other side of the globe:
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cdf94...#axzz1sy1wulTZ
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/wo...-in-china.html
It seems like the Chinese [military controller] is changing posture as well. In Chinese, they have a saying "In a bull fight, the bugs are dead." I don't know about the rest of us, but I know I am not the bull.

In short, though it sounds attractive, with respect I doubt very much that little of what Mr Drake has claimed will ever transpire on the path we are traversing.

On a hopeful note, one can only hope bull fighting is "officially" banned.

[aranuk]

Hopefully this big clean up in US will have a domino effect throughout the world. In fact it must happen if things go in our favour. It will start in USA and go viral, that's my hope. Drake is a very intelligent man in my opinion. Deatra is no mug either, and her actions in the past prove to me that she loves her country and its ordinary folk. Same with Drake. If this was a psy-ops campaign to enslave the US people further, and the Military were going to create Marshal law, why would Drake be giving us instructions to communicate by radio etc?

Ok, so the Cabal and its cohorts built FEMA camps, I have heard that there as many as 300 am I correct here? Correct me if I'm wrong. If their brainwashing/mind control by the media was working as well as they wanted, why build FEMA camps at all? They obviously figure it isn't working the way they would like. If they filled up the FEMA camps with citizens the mind controlled masses 90% of the population would start waking up. They must be so desperate and confused. Their (TPTW) actions have gone too far and they cannot hide a thing anymore. They got clumsy. Power mad. Oblivious of the people's knowledge of their actions.

Drake is not going to be fooled by such cretins. I trust the man.

Stan

[YvonneG]

Not only would this wake up more people, but the World is watching and any credibility they may have left would be gone. I so agree with you Stan.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Fred can you tell me about the stand your ground gun law please?
There's lots about USA that I know about, but lots more I don't.

Sure Stan, "Stand Your Ground" mainly affects people that hold a licence to carry a firearm on their person, and basically says that if you are out and about somewhere and are attacked, you have the right to literally stand your ground and defend yourself, and repel the attack with whatever force is necessary, including deadly force.

Absurdly, before the law was changed the person out and about had the "duty to retreat" if attacked, and could only use deadly force once there was no place else to run and you were cornered. Even then there was no guarantee of not getting charged with something unpleasant.

Cheers,
Fred

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
Drake was not the one organizing anything. The Plan has been around for 20 years. For the states and their paperwork and documentation, it was done by some long time patriots and they organized within their own states. I personally know some of them now. These people I know aren't believing anything. They were involved in it all, they feel that Drake is the real deal, and for me that is enough for me to consider this true, as much as I would consider someone who comes to me with some thing which they say is personally known to them.

I don't see it getting any strong then that me, except for the events themselves.

May All Beings Be Happy

Drake may not be the one organizing anything, but if he's supposed to be PR he's either terrible at it or he's deliberately putting out disinformation. The point was that all of these fudged facts either mean he's conning us (worst case) or conning them (best case) and until we have tangible proof we cannot know which it is. Now, first of all when you consider the fact we are questioning the authenticity of his testimony I don't think that means we can't question whether or not this plan has, in fact, existed at all. That's the problem, if he's putting out disinformation we now have to take a scalpel to each sentence he's uttered and put it under the microscope to see what we can extract from his statements. What evidence other than his word of DW's word can we put to the idea that this plan has even existed? Has it come from other sources before? Who? when? Are there links that can be presented that would make the case that drake is simply the culmination of a process? Because I haven't heard anything like what was being said until the moment Drake came forward about any "Good guys" that weren't ETs.

I'm still trying to figure out if there's a way to correctly apply my own sense of intuition and also a full rational analysis to things. I "feel" authenticity projected from Drake and David Wilcock but I've already had first hand experience with humans who were able to project that same authentic feeling and actually were horrible manipulators. Do you know why? Because a smart person will convince themselves that what they're doing isn't wrong, hence they won't feel guilt about it, and any empathetic abilities you might have will be worthless at reading their intentions. So I apply rational analysis and his statements just have too many factual innacuracies to be someone who's being 100% honest. Especially given the "cover story" he's given us regarding this being the culmination of a long standing plan. (If it's so well orchestrated how the hell can there be so many problems with his testimony? PR is like a science.)

He is telling lies, the only questions are: Is he's lying to us on purpose, if he is what that purpose is, and if he's not, then who's lying to him and why? I still want to believe in a best case and I notice all of the channelers have already been switching their language towards indicating immiment disclosure. Which means, very possibly, that there is something big going on behind the scenes to influence this many changes in tone/verbiage from the various new age/conspiracy sites. A lot of them are running with this meme.

This could be an interesting trend and I hope to see where it goes since it would eventually indicate something coming out, just nothing about what that is. I'm sure at some point collectively people will tire of "Soon!" and at that point we'll either see disclosure of some sorts or perhaps alternatively a blow to the credibility of New Age/Conspiracy sources. We're fast approaching an environment where attempting to double down on what you want to believe in spite of the facts is becoming increasingly impossible as the Internet's memory forces us to remember when we or those we trusted were dead wrong and allows encyclopedic recall of them with bibliography. So if something is going to happen, this would be the time, either we make it or break it. But until we see some action taken beyond "Look at how these news stories support our narrative!" blog posts, I have to remain reserved. Again, it's something I really want to happen, which is why I have to be so skeptical about it (to combat my own confirmation bias.)

[Cjay]

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Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
I have heard Drake's message. I'm not sure what to think of his message. The only thing I know for sure is that I am not going to be holding my breath for anyone to "save us" from a cartel that has control over nearly every major government in the entire world. The task at hand is akin to going out in your row boat to stop a cat.5 hurricane.

Mother nature will take care of this plague on mankind(the cartel). She is the only one quite frankly that is capable of completing the cleansing....in my opinion.

I agree, but to minimize collateral damage, us, she needs our help. Convulsing the planet is an inexact means of cleansing and we would end up as we have in the past when these things happened and had to start almost from primitive beginnings. Our help will allow us to keep our progress while we clean the planet up.

I would like to add that "convulsing the planet" would cause unimaginable pollution world-wide that would take millennia for mother nature to cleanse.

Was it clear I was referring to Her convulsing to cleanse Herself? Your reply makes me think clarity was a casualty in my post.

Your post was beautifully clear, modwiz. I was thinking of umteen different comments I have read recently, from people who seem to wish for a cataclysm as a quick way of solving humanity's miriad problems but don't seem to consider the mess that would cause.

[aranuk]

TVM read the previous posts. Your questions have been explained several times. You accuse Drake of lying and build on your doubts. It may take a few months, who knows what problems they have. Drake cannot be allowed to say what the problems are as that would give the enemy information. It has to be cloak and dagger at the start. Be patient. Allow things to happen. Certain things will have to take place in some kind of order. Things that got started may have taken longer or they have been abandoned for some other alternative. The mind boggles really. Anything is possible. Maybe the ET's are now involved and a better plan has now emerged. Anything is possible.

Stan

[mountain_jim]

I will reformulate the question I provided for Kimberly for her upcoming interview with Kettler as a question I have for those who have listened to all these Drake interviews, did he ever say anything that addresses this?:

Do the 'arrests' also include a focus or interest or concerns about the NSA 'turnkey totalitarian state' , as various links and interviews talks about in this thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Democracy-Now

From my readings some part of the dark cabal power over US (and planetary) citizens seems to be concentrated in this supersecret 'organization', with extreme technologies to spy on and control the citizens of our once free republic, with mafia-type strong-arming or murder of anyone who tries to expose any of the illegalities contained therein.

With all this talk about upcoming 'arrests' of the powers that be, where does this power-center figure in the overall hierarchy of Dark Power in the apparent ongoing war between Light and Dark on this (attempted) prison planet?

And how would Drake's 'forces' penetrate this veil of secrecy as to who is responsible for what and how to deal with them?

(I know, ET/ED this or that but I am looking for more rational, 3D level answers here, if any)

[Chester]

Hi - I created a new thread which focuses on one of the primary issues we have been bouncing around here in the Drake thread - please check it out - justonefool perhaps

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Possibilities

[aranuk]

Hi Jim you asked I quote "And how would Drake's 'forces' penetrate this veil of secrecy as to who is responsible for what and how to deal with them? "
If Jim Kettler answers this question he will be giving warning to the same power elite, and a method on how to scupper the attacks. I don't imagine Drake would be allowed to answer such a question either. If he did I would then question his authenticity. You cannot give the enemy a notion of your plans to win, that would be stupid, to say the least.

Stan

PS May I also suggest that if you know a way please don't broadcast it here. The walls have eyes. And as Modwiz rended us all "loose lips sink ships"

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by aranuk (here)
TVM read the previous posts. Your questions have been explained several times. You accuse Drake of lying and build on your doubts. It may take a few months, who knows what problems they have. Drake cannot be allowed to say what the problems are as that would give the enemy information. It has to be cloak and dagger at the start. Be patient. Allow things to happen. Certain things will have to take place in some kind of order. Things that got started may have taken longer or they have been abandoned for some other alternative. The mind boggles really. Anything is possible. Maybe the ET's are now involved and a better plan has now emerged. Anything is possible.

Stan

Yes, and if you'll notice I responded to each response to my own posts to articulate my analysis as to why their statements in support of Drake do not mean anything more than their show of moral/intuitive support for the ideas he is expressing. Reality on the ground != Lawful basis for arrest. Getting your facts on the documentation wrong? Where you're sending it? what it is? No paper trail? Statements of "Trust us, you'll see it...soon" are also the statements that can be just as easily made by a con artist. It might be upsetting to you to consider that possibility but it must be considered if you want the "real" answer; for you to respond with "Stop questioning Drake, you just don't understand!" can't help but remind me of a certain "Leave Brittany Spears alone!" meme.

Anything may be possible on a macro scale but we in our human world do not live in a state of infinite possibility, we live in a state of finite probability which crystallizes into singular-actuality the moment action is taken. As such speculating on why Drake says or does what he does is meaningless unless we are willing to take a hard look at the odds and what sources of evidence we have to support his claims as being anything more than words uttered over the air. Excessive doubt is a problem just as much as excessive belief is, but some doubt (just as some belief) is always good as it leads to questions which lead to answers which lead to proof which leads to real confidence, and that's where I know I want to be. Confident not just because I "think" or "believe" something but confident I have an iron clad case of facts which shows something definite. If you want to just say "Well I intuitively believe in Drake because I get a good feeling from him." Then that's fine, but it's easier to just say that rather than attempt to make a vague attempt to criticize dissent. (If I've missed something, what did I miss, where did I miss it, can you re-quote what was missed and add context? Vague appeals to indefinite "explanations" do not a counter-argument make.)

And I'm willing to consider first hand testimony as evidence but only to a degree unless there are multiple sources of similar testimony from unrelated sources which would corroborate a general trend. It's a hard line to walk, but especially if we're on the cutting edge of Truth we must exercise healthy skepticism (which is all about not coming to a conclusion too quickly on something, not the type of scientism seen in Skeptic Magazine) to stay afloat. We're all prone to our own biases, distortions, etc. We as beings are each wired to see what we want to see versus what is really there to unique and varying degrees, if we do not account for that we will never step out of superstition and into fact. Intuition is a very powerful tool, but just like logic and the scientific method it can lead us to bad results if it's not used properly.