Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Chester]

Posted by sdv (here)
Scroll back a few pages re "Dutch Government collapses" or words to that effect...

There is a prediction that 'something' would happen and people would hear about it and a vague reference to 'the fed'. Then, 'proof' is given because there is a media report that 'the Dutch Government collapses'. Huh?

One must view steps by looking at groupings of events. The "collapse" of the Dutch government being only a single event in a group of events. I would place the Morgan Stanley cut off of the Vatican bank in this group amongst other events in the last several weeks. (Comment - this action reminds me of the pot calling the kettle black, but I digress)

http://www.economywatch.com/in-the-n...ars.20-03.html

One must look with a helicopter view or the details and how we interpret them are like single molecules of mist in a vast fog.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
... the NSA 'turnkey totalitarian state' ... the dark cabal power over US (and planetary) citizens seems to be concentrated in this supersecret 'organization', with extreme technologies to spy on ...

And how would Drake's 'forces' penetrate this veil of secrecy as to who is responsible for what and how to deal with them?
...

A large magnetic field will completely destroy the yottabytes of data the NSA has on us. By writing The Reset Button, I have done my part to try to overwhelm and explode their hard drives, but so for it hasn't worked.

Dennis

[mountain_jim]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Hi Jim you asked I quote "And how would Drake's 'forces' penetrate this veil of secrecy as to who is responsible for what and how to deal with them? "
If Jim Kettler answers this question he will be giving warning to the same power elite, and a method on how to scupper the attacks. I don't imagine Drake would be allowed to answer such a question either. If he did I would then question his authenticity. You cannot give the enemy a notion of your plans to win, that would be stupid, to say the least.

Stan

PS May I also suggest that if you know a way please don't broadcast it here. The walls have eyes. And as Modwiz rended us all "loose lips sink ships"

Well I question talk of arrests to the 'governor' level when the real power, at least in this country, is in these super-secret organizations with such advanced tech.

I was not looking so much for the how, (except I guess rhetorically) but whether he has even mentioned this power-center in his discussions of what has to be changed.

And envoking the 'don't give your enemy info' response to all questions of this nature just moves me toward the doubter's camp, concerning the reality of these 'arrests' causing a true change in the controllers of this planet.

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Well I question talk of arrests to the 'governor' level when the real power, at least in this country, is in these super-secret organizations with such advanced tech.

I was not looking so much for the how, (except I guess rhetorically) but whether he has even mentioned this power-center in his discussions of what has to be changed.

And envoking the 'don't give your enemy info' response to all questions of this nature just moves me toward the doubter's camp, concerning the reality of these 'arrests' causing a true change in the controllers of this planet.

A good, non-gloomy way to revisit this situation would be for us to mine old data on channelings, old Camelot Testimony, etc. to see if these events were in any way directly foreshadowed by certain groups, individuals etc. The Drake story purports to have historical basis. So if we can find a historical basis foreshadowed enough in prior testimony that would work as evidence for what David Wilcock and Drake are saying. The idea being that if Drake's story is authentic we should be able to find evidence released in the past that corroborate his story. Whereas if his story was the first of its kind and began to specifically advance a new meme in the New Age/Conspiracy communities that would be evidence that Drake is purposefully putting forth disinfo.

So there are things we can do that would give us some real answers, although it might take a while to go over all of that video x_x;; I've only managed to go through about ten differet Project Camelot whisleblower videos.

[Chester]

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
A simple rhetorical question: Do you think the real plan will be revealed in any public forum - including this one - for all to see?

No.

Can you imagine any type of conflict, military or otherwise, where either side would release their strategy in advance?

This is not so much a "conflict" as an ACTION taken by a segment of humanity. Look at it in the proper light. Will some conflict occur in the implementation of the action? Probably.

Has there been a great deal of thought by some pretty intelligent folks about all this? If the bigger shoes begin to drop then I would suggest Yes is the answer to that last question.

Since it will be quite obvious when these bigger shoes drop, are we (each of us individually) willing to help in any positive way we can?

I would think that is the question we should try and spend much of our chat time exploring.

[Chester]

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
A simple rhetorical question: Do you think the real plan will be revealed in any public forum - including this one - for all to see?

No.

Can you imagine any type of conflict, military or otherwise, where either side would release their strategy in advance?

I can't imagine it either thus that is one of the reasons I see brilliance in the decision to do so.

Besides most of us knowing old thinking can never solve problems - imagine how most of America (much less other parts of the world) would react if it has not been announced?

Another point - do you think the in power cabal is clueless that folks like us are on to them? You don't think they are aware of most of the steps being taken to stop them? Come on... As if it could be kept under wraps in the first place.

[Chester]

Posted by sdv (here)
Bekhra, thank you so much for trying to get information. There is no such thing as the International Court of Justice, Law Department. Not the "Hague" but in the same building? The building in which the ICJ resides in The Hague, a city. This is absolute hogwash and is an insult to your intelligence.

"Thank you for your email. Of course there is a papertrail. We will release the paperwork (filed at the International Court of Justice, Law Department, not the "Hague" but in the same building) on the internet as soon as we get the green light from the people who risked their lives to get this done for all of us. You won't find the proof anywhere because the current corporate government does not want you to have proof that you are free. There are people at the ICJ whose job is specifically to interfere with the notification process and they have no limits on how they accomplish this."

Actions speak louder than words - if the 90% are convinced well enough to act, then what will all this banter about paperwork matter? If/when the biggest shoes drop, are you willing to be helpful? Have you explored the ways you can be, as an individual if these events occur?

[A Simple Human]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Everything else is neurosis and enjoying our own voices. This is a real lesson in centering ourselves and showing what we are capable of. I do believe the galaxy is watching.............and listening.

@ modwiz,

Very astute observation, modwiz. Although I never respond to your posts, I do read everyone of them contained in the threads that interest me most. I generally tend to agree with your sentiment. So, thanks for posting this.

I observe a whole lot of criticism posted, but very few solutions. To me it's just a lot of noise with which I do not wish to participate in.

There are about a dozen, or so, posters (and they probably know who they are) who I'm truly grateful for their contributions. So thanks to everyone who has positively contributed something of value, and not just simply your criticism. I appreciate it.

A.S.H.

[Fred Steeves]

Sorry, but sometimes I just can't melp meself. Whenever I see a Drake thread or comment I time warp back to Seinfeld. I mean hey, who doesn't love The Drake?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=shYbs2f-VgA

[Lost N Found]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
A simple rhetorical question: Do you think the real plan will be revealed in any public forum - including this one - for all to see?

No.

Can you imagine any type of conflict, military or otherwise, where either side would release their strategy in advance?

This is not so much a "conflict" as an ACTION taken by a segment of humanity. Look at it in the proper light. Will some conflict occur in the implementation of the action? Probably.

Has there been a great deal of thought by some pretty intelligent folks about all this? If the bigger shoes begin to drop then I would suggest Yes is the answer to that last question.

Since it will be quite obvious when these bigger shoes drop, are we (each of us individually) willing to help in any positive way we can?

I would think that is the question we should try and spend much of our chat time exploring.

Justoneman, If and when and I prefer the when,the big shoe drops, exactly what are you planning to do to be part of this and how will you help. I for one would really like to know that. I have my own ideas and perhaps we can have discourse about this as you have asked.

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Actions speak louder than words - if the 90% are convinced well enough to act, then what will all this banter about paperwork matter? If/when the biggest shoes drop, are you willing to be helpful? Have you explored the ways you can be, as an individual if these events occur?

Let's break down Drake's message a bit. First of all what is the paperwork meant to be? An international declaration as to why this is happening. It's meant though to enshrine that this action is taking place in full compliance of the law. Why does legal compliance matter? Because many people will immediately distrust any "extra-legal" means of righting a situation. This is meant to assure them of the intent of the actions so that people will be helpful and not harmful to the process. With that being said, then, it becomes incredibly suspect that there are so many factual innacuracies in Drake's statements regarding the paperwork he sent. If his purpose is PR, and his mission is to spread awareness prior to the event to re-assure the public of it's legal basis and therefore of it's good will, then his innacuracies directly contradict his stated intent of spreading awareness. Since why would anyone trust someone who can't be bothered to get their facts right the first, or hell even second time? I always consider that may be part of this "plan" but if it is then it will need to be followed by a mountain of evidence and David Wilcock and Drake have said that supposedly such things exist.

Paperwork matters, and evidence matters, because if something isn't documented, you have no proof that the justification for any of this ever existed anywhere other than the rationalizations within our own minds; and acting entirely on passion is only going to get us into even more trouble.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Let's get very practical. There will be severe disruptions, much will change, regardless of Drake's presentation being accurate or not.

Even in the best case where the military and light side ETs are on the same team there will be an undefined period of disruption. My local grocery store has a backup generator for the refrigerators and freezers, but no backup electricity for the internet dependent cash registers. Bottom line is food may not be available for purchase and supply lines may be cut due to riots where there are unprepared people. We should be stocking up. Canned goods will work for the short term but they are heavy to move. Dehydrated food will last much longer and is much easier to transport.

A plan is needed to get clean water. Three days without water many are about to enjoy whatever reality comes next. Even those in great physical condition will be dysfunctional by then.

Food, water purification filters, simple gardening tools and basic supplies are a much better investment than gold or silver. During a period when stores are closed or empty, can you imagine trading food for precious metal? Dr. Pete Peterson (insider, Project Camelot interview) said he might trade a loaf of bread for a 1 oz gold coin (currently valued at more than $1600).

Without a plan for self responsibility one really plans (by default) to switch realities, and maybe very soon.

And if the Drake material is inaccurate and the dark side temporarily wins, consider the vulnerability to manipulation if one does not have any food in the house. Or worse, no water.

[aranuk]

You make good sense Rob. What can I do to help? Inform the Scottish people to give support in anyway possible perhaps. Saying prayers will help on a mass scale I think.

Stan

[aranuk]

I'm just thinking this may be the most important stage in history. I think Drake is mainly speaking to those of us who are awake to the realities of what is going on in USA and the world at large. He is not talking to the mind controlled masses who believe almost anything the BBC,ITV,Channel 4, the American tv stations that I'm not familiar with, the newspapers tell them. This I would guess is the biggest problem. If I were the general in charge of operation house clean, I would on my first move knock out the tv news broadcasts and take them over. They, if left alone could change the entire situation by their usual lies they like to tell. Drake mentioned that that would happen after a few days, I think he said, but in my view quicker than that would be paramount.

Stan

[TargeT]

Posted by aranuk (here)
You make good sense Rob. What can I do to help? Inform the Scottish people to give support in anyway possible perhaps. Saying prayers will help on a mass scale I think.

Stan

I decided to involve myself in education & preparation organizations, my current favorite (for its theatrical flair) is
http://www.zombiehunters.org/

this is a group that performs local charity work (depending on your chapter, we did not have one in Alaska so a co-worker and I started one) and educates people on personal preparation for disaster, the tag line is "if you can survive a zombie apocalypse, you can survive anything!" (or something similar).

Small things like this I think are what is key, people know us publicly, we are subject matter experts (SME's) and will be turned to in times of need, in times of plenty we educate all who will listen (or trick them into listening via our zombie hunter front.. haha).

it’s fun, doesn't take much time & is very educating.

Help yourself, once you are secure you will be in a position to help others (that’s my advice).


as for this whole drake thing.. it has nothing to do with personal preparation, it either is real or is not; either outcome should not greatly affect your current life style.

[modwiz]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm just thinking this may be the most important stage in history. I think Drake is mainly speaking to those of us who are awake to the realities of what is going on in USA and the world at large. He is not talking to the mind controlled masses who believe almost anything the BBC,ITV,Channel 4, the American tv stations that I'm not familiar with, the newspapers tell them. This I would guess is the biggest problem. If I were the general in charge of operation house clean, I would on my first move knock out the tv news broadcasts and take them over. They, if left alone could change the entire situation by their usual lies they like to tell. Drake mentioned that that would happen after a few days, I think he said, but in my view quicker than that would be paramount.

Stan

This is a very important statement of logic you posit here Stan. It is a fact most people do not and, because of lack of practice, cannot think for themselves. This is not so much a put down as a statement of reality. That said, the TV becomes paramount. People are conditioned to turn to it for direction and what to think. Getting control of 'the box' means effectively being able to control the situation. Not wanting to sat too much, the good strategies will be the ones not talked about and I do wish the naysayers would get this. Do not expect to hear what you think makes sense. That would be giving away the intel and that would be really stupid. The fact that the elite have control over all of the important areas of control makes them spread out a little thin when it comes time to guard the crucial points. A good tactical mind will be aware of this and strike where things are most advantageous to do so. Utility of the target and ease of obtaining it form a sort of triage to consider.

We have the advantage that their focus on saving asses and money will leave them exposed in other areas.

To get back to the original idea. I agree with you Stan.

To others who think nothing adds up. Do not expect to read cogent plans here. If you think the plan sounds daft. Good.

[crosby]

here is something of interest: not sure if it is part of the mass arrests, but i thought just in case:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...m_business_pop

"NEW ORLEANS — A BP engineer intentionally deleted more than 300 text messages that said the company’s efforts to control the Gulf of Mexico oil spill were failing, and that the amount of oil leaking was far more than what the company reported, the Justice Department said Tuesday.

In the first criminal charges related to the deadly explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig in April 2010, the Justice Department arrested Kurt Mix and charged him with two counts of obstruction of justice for allegedly destroying evidence sought by federal authorities, officials announced in a statement."

regards, corson

[aranuk]

Absolutely Modwiz. I concur.

Stan

[Alie]

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
A simple rhetorical question: Do you think the real plan will be revealed in any public forum - including this one - for all to see?

No.

Can you imagine any type of conflict, military or otherwise, where either side would release their strategy in advance?

This is not so much a "conflict" as an ACTION taken by a segment of humanity. Look at it in the proper light. Will some conflict occur in the implementation of the action? Probably.

Has there been a great deal of thought by some pretty intelligent folks about all this? If the bigger shoes begin to drop then I would suggest Yes is the answer to that last question.

Since it will be quite obvious when these bigger shoes drop, are we (each of us individually) willing to help in any positive way we can?

I would think that is the question we should try and spend much of our chat time exploring.

Justoneman, If and when and I prefer the when,the big shoe drops, exactly what are you planning to do to be part of this and how will you help. I for one would really like to know that. I have my own ideas and perhaps we can have discourse about this as you have asked.

Although you asked Justoneman, my answer would be to look to making a difference during the "rebuild". What could I possibly do I ask myself since I'm better at support than leadership. So this is my answer --- look over my life --- what are my skill sets and what are my passions? Then I find people who need to be taught/encouraged with those things I'm good at. It has been said several times in the broadcasts --- get to know your neighbors, your county, your community.

[YvonneG]

The County Project "education" that is offered by Anita through Freedomreign.us is probably the best way to learn from someone who has been working on this since 2005--Anita. She has nothing to do with Drake's The Plan, other than she is part of the "show". Anita joined the "show" about month or so ago.

Her two calls on county project are majorly informative. Govt. by We the People is bottom up. State does not rule the county. There is a lot to learn about how our counties have literally been stolen and what Agenda 21 is all about. Anita set up a wiki for county and shares many good examples of how it is a perfect way for people to meet, to network, to share openly through the wikispace. I and another lady I met recently are starting our wikispace. She is setting up, I will contribute as well as work on getting what we put up out on google.

We need this now...we will need later...we have always needed it :-) It is a really good way to get to know our neighbors.

For anyone who doesn't like Drake or has a negative opinion. This is not DRake's thing. It 's Anita's thing and she has been working with all of this since 2005. She is also very familiar with probably one of the major proponent of going local...Catherine Austin Fitts. She was on Thrive and is one of the main whistleblowers...she survived and is alive and well openly.

hope this is helpful...