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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Where to start? … I am presenting this information in neutrality as I am currently walking the line between revelation and disillusionment. TRUTH IS ALL THAT MATTERS.


    I will leave you with this...

    Posted by Drake on Humanity Healing in 2008:

    Quote I am, and have been a Rainbow Warrior most of my life. As such I am the defender few experience and fewer 'see'. I am the one standing between those who misuse their powers that visit the innocent in dreams. I was commissioned through ceremony, recomended by the lesser gods to the greater gods, and given great understandings, those beyond most comprehension.As such I will stand my post to be called when needed.
    Because of this I am attempting to offer information to be heralded through-out mankind, that man might once again be free to enjoy peace.
    Due to my position I have been very busy in efforts to start a world wide peace process involving Iraq and the middle east. The opening of dialog with all our fellow earthlings is just the beginning. There is a great deal more to come. I am a licensed counselor of a different sort. I do not get into a persons head. Rather I give them the tools needed for them to heal themselves. My primary areas are P.T.S.D. for veterans and families in distress. My system works on any kind of stress from any source.
    I hope this clearifies what is presented here.
    I have been given permission to illucidate on being a light being.This will be a part of my final posting for these purposes.
    I really could have bolded that whole quote.


    Fire up your search engines.

    Thank you Vivek for your research and efforts. Personally i feel at this stage of the game why so many are so interested in WHO Drake is. I agree that transparency is the way foreward but only if innocent lives are not put in danger.

    That said i would suppose that those that chose to follow the darkways by oaths will know exactly who Drake is.

    When reading the above post it sent tingles up my spine. It seemed to come from or resonated with Enoch. When the fallen watchers asked Enoch to intercede for them on their behalf. But not because of the fall but because of the OATH they made to " Do this thing" Only to be told " I think in Drakes own words " correct me if i am wrong. " You chose the bike now start cycling" or another way. " You have made your bed now sleep in it"

    I hope you do not think what i am going to post here is off topic. But for me At this stage of the game this is so significant and a reminder to those who decided to choose through their Oath to follow their plan of darkness.

    Is Drake the one who intercedes at the end of times. Can Humanity forgive where the God of old could not. Is this our mission? A way to bring all the protical sons back home to the universal family of love. Just my thoughts.

    Peace



    Quote from the book of Enoch.

    XII-XVI. Dream Vision of Enoch: his intercession for Azâzęl and the fallen Angels: and his announcement to them of their first and final doom.
    CHAPTER XII.
    1. Before these things Enoch was hidden, and no one of the children of men knew where he was hidden, and where he abode, and what had become of him.
    2. And his activities had to do with the Watchers, and his days were with the holy ones.
    3. And I, Enoch was blessing the Lord of majesty and the King of the ages, and lo! the Watchers called me--Enoch the scribe--and said to me:

    4. 'Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness, go, †declare† to the Watchers of the heaven who have left the high heaven, the holy eternal place, and have defiled themselves with women, and have done as the children of earth do, and have taken unto themselves wives: "Ye have wrought great destruction on the earth:
    5. And ye shall have no peace nor forgiveness of sin: and inasmuch as †they† delight themselves in †their† children,
    6. The murder of †their† beloved ones shall †they† see, and over the destruction of †their† children shall †they† lament, and shall make supplication unto eternity, but mercy and peace shall ye not attain."'
    CHAPTER XIII.
    1. And Enoch went and said: 'Azâzęl, thou shalt have no peace: a severe sentence has gone forth against thee to put thee in bonds:
    2. And thou shalt not have toleration nor †request† granted to thee, because of the unrighteousness which thou hast taught, and because of all the works of godlessness and unrighteousness and sin which thou hast shown to men.'

    3. Then I went and spoke to them all together, and they were all afraid, and fear and trembling seized them.
    4. And they besought me to draw up a petition for them that they might find forgiveness, and to read their petition in the presence of the Lord of heaven.


    5. For from thenceforward they could not speak (with Him) nor lift up their eyes to heaven for shame of their sins for which they had been condemned.
    6. Then I wrote out their petition, and the prayer in regard to their spirits and their deeds individually and in regard to their requests that they should have forgiveness and length of days†.
    7. And I went off and sat down at the waters of Dan, in the land of Dan, to the south of the west of Hermon: I read their petition till I fell asleep.

    8. And behold a dream came to me, and visions fell down upon me, and I saw visions of chastisement, and a voice came bidding (me) I to tell it to the sons of heaven, and reprimand them.
    9. And when I awaked, I came unto them, and they were all sitting gathered together, weeping in ’Abelsjâîl, which is between Lebanon and Sęnęsęr, with their faces covered.
    10. And I recounted before them all the visions which I had seen in sleep, and I began to speak the words of righteousness, and to reprimand the heavenly Watchers.


    CHAPTER XIV.
    1. The book of the words of righteousness, and of the reprimand of the eternal Watchers in accordance with the command of the Holy Great One in that vision.

    2. I saw in my sleep what I will now say with a tongue of flesh and with the breath of my mouth: which the Great One has given to men to converse therewith and understand with the heart.
    3. As He has created and given to man the power of understanding the word of wisdom, so hath He created me also and given me the power of reprimanding the Watchers, the children of heaven.
    4. I wrote out your petition, and in my vision it appeared thus, that your petition will not be granted unto you throughout all the days of eternity, and that judgement has been finally passed upon you: yea (your petition) will not be granted unto you.
    5. And from henceforth you shall not ascend into heaven unto all eternity, and in bonds of the earth the decree has gone forth to bind you for all the days of the world.
    6. And (that) previously you shall have seen the destruction of your beloved sons and ye shall have no pleasure in them, but they shall fall before you by the sword.
    7. And your petition on their behalf shall not be granted, nor yet on your own: even though you weep and pray and speak all the words contained in the writing which I have written.

    Peace
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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    Just a note (from http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/...of-gods.html):

    In the old Hebrew Bibles, all references to serpents are made by use of the word nahash (from the stem NHSH); but this usage does not relate to serpents in the way that we would know them - that is, as venomous snakes. It relates to serpents in their traditional capacity as bringers of wisdom and enlightenment, for the word nahash actually means 'to decipher' or 'to find out'.
    From my research there are three meanings for Nachash and it depends on where the dots and tittles are placed. For instance in Genesis in the garden of Eden, the word is not Snake at all, but shining one. Shining one links back to the idea of Illumination and Satan mascarading as an Angel (Messenger) of Light. The really hard part is in understanding where the light is coming from, and is it really ultimately for our good or just to gain more control. Many people are stressed and dislike it when they are given hope based on a story and someone else comes along and shows the holes in the story. That's a lot of what I am seeing with Drake.

    He has some pretty amazing writings about healing and such which most people I have associated with align their thoughts to as well. I am going to continue to dig and find out more about this particular Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon. There is some very interesting stuff on the Dragon bloodline which interestingly Constantine came from and the Catholic Church uses his apparent bestowing of his authority on them to carry out what they do based on that authority.

    These are some sites I have been reading on and quite frankly I had to take a break since last night's searching in the Dragon bloodline as it just gets a bit much:

    http://drakenberg.weebly.com/

    I'm not a big fan of wiki, but there was this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

    This particular info was a lot to read, but well worth it:

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...lordring07.htm

    I took this quote as interesting:

    * Drakenberg is the legally recognized name of the Nation State of the Dragon Peoples. Drakenberg was officially recognized by default in 1997, by one Western Government. The Dragons wanted to see whether they could get their old enemies to recognize the Kingdom of the Elves, they having spent 1000 years attempting to eradicate all trace of it from the public consciousness. The exercise was successful and Drakenberg - The Dragon Sovereignty - (Lothlorien, if you like) exists with all the powers of an incorporeal state of peoples as defined by the United Nations. Essentially therefore, being an Elf or a Dragon is a recognized nationality! This was a serious political move undertaken for serious environmental and social reasons. Enquiries in this regard concerning DNA tests should be directed to Dragoncourt.org.
    (Dragoncourt.org link does not work)

    The name changes, the history changes regarding the names was a lot to go through which I did find very interesting. Are some of us more "gifted" naturally and thus bloodlines matter and that's why the families were so careful? Then instead of being Kings and Queens who brought blessings and took care of their people, they became corrupted and desired to be worshipped and/or just keep the people down and as their servants. They have lost their right to lead because of their abusive ways. It is time for change, and it is coming.

    This is the content page which was well worth the read:

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...l_lordring.htm

    I see this sovereignty issue tied to the Dragon bloodline and thus it may be a big part of Drake's push as well.
    I am impressed, VERY WELL Researched... When I was a Psychology/Religion Major I studied ancient Greek and Hebrew and have always been miffed at how people literalize and interpret some of the words by changing the meaning to the closest "word/context" that makes sense to them in their 19th/20th/21st Century understandings or religious backgrounds. I would be curious to know your background. Good catch on “Shinning One(s)”. I did a paper on a similar subject that was not well received in my religious university in Oklahoma. Good work.

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    Just so's people can make up their own minds, Drake's denial of Dragon membership is 40 mins into 22A. http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Deatra_Drake

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    I have studied the work of Dr. Emoto, Japanese scientist who has done amazing working with water. He has a photo of a dragon image forming on the waters during a tragedy, no sure if it was Katrina? Can't remember. A dragon is a mythical creature not related to a serpent.

    To the Chinese a dragon is an auspicious creature. The fact that Drake means Dragon for the majority of the world would be a very good thing.

    He is what wiki says:

    Chinese dragon is a mythical creature in Chinese mythology and folklore, with mythic counterparts among Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Bhutanese, Western and Turkic dragons. In Chinese art, dragons are typically portrayed as long, scaled, serpentine creatures with four legs. In yin and yang terminology, a dragon is yang and complements a yin fenghuang ("Chinese phoenix").

    In contrast to European dragons, which are considered evil, Chinese dragons traditionally symbolize potent and auspicious powers, particularly control over water, rainfall, hurricane, and floods. The dragon is also a symbol of power, strength, and good luck. With this, the Emperor of China usually used the dragon as a symbol of his imperial power.

    I will try to find the photo later with the Dr. Emoto's comments.

    There is so much that most of us don't understand because we (including myself) have looked through our culture's glasses and for the most part, our media has helped to be quite blind indeed. Drake is a very wise man from what I can tell--whoever he is. He also loves the Earth, which is a big thing for me.

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    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    I have studied the work of Dr. Emoto, Japanese scientist who has done amazing working with water. He has a photo of a dragon image forming on the waters during a tragedy, no sure if it was Katrina? Can't remember. A dragon is a mythical creature not related to a serpent.

    To the Chinese a dragon is an auspicious creature. The fact that Drake means Dragon for the majority of the world would be a very good thing.

    He is what wiki says:

    Chinese dragon is a mythical creature in Chinese mythology and folklore, with mythic counterparts among Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Bhutanese, Western and Turkic dragons. In Chinese art, dragons are typically portrayed as long, scaled, serpentine creatures with four legs. In yin and yang terminology, a dragon is yang and complements a yin fenghuang ("Chinese phoenix").

    In contrast to European dragons, which are considered evil, Chinese dragons traditionally symbolize potent and auspicious powers, particularly control over water, rainfall, hurricane, and floods. The dragon is also a symbol of power, strength, and good luck. With this, the Emperor of China usually used the dragon as a symbol of his imperial power.

    I will try to find the photo later with the Dr. Emoto's comments.

    There is so much that most of us don't understand because we (including myself) have looked through our culture's glasses and for the most part, our media has helped to be quite blind indeed. Drake is a very wise man from what I can tell--whoever he is. He also loves the Earth, which is a big thing for me.
    I think it's important to distiquish etymology from archetype when we are talking about Dragons here.

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    I am not sure what to make of this information about "Drake" or what to make of the man himself...

    There are a lot of "DRAKE" names popping up all over the place... and this is a common tactic used to discredit. I am not saying the Drake from the interview is a Positive or Negative person, just sharing tactics of a former counter Intel "Student".

    Other tactics would also include (If I found his full name and personal info w/is not hard) would "Create Memberships" on Kiddie Porn or other off putting sites, membership at controversial groups or posting on their forums with the real personal info, planting info on his computers or in his Home/Car and then sending the police with search warrants out to greet him etc...

    Dis-info and Counter Intel is the SECOND oldest profession (As they like to say) and is a well developed art. You cannot really ever KNOW the facts of ANYTHING for sure unless you see it... then if you see it you can only trust so much of what your eyes funnel into your brain and how it is then assimilated.

    Even though this is a lot of info coming out, it is only the tip top of the ice berg. I have a feeling when all of this does come about people are going to be popping Xanax like tic tacs.

    EDIT: You are also probably aware that these types of agents ARE on these sites and forums all day every day and are also among the people that post in these types of blogs... and NO I am not one of them...
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    Thank you Vivek for your research and efforts. Drake doesn't sound well enough grounded in reality to pull off the complexities of which he speaks. If the military was planning to pull off an operation as described, it would require computer scenarios and numerous top secret meetings. Why would they have a front man alerting the good and bad guys? He talks of rounding up the bad guys with sheriffs who are under the federal jurisdiction of Homeland Security but he says they will take direction from the military and give orders to local police. A few airport pat downs, makes this sound rather irrational to me. Instead he sounds like a very very lonely FL widower escaping into magical thinking to fill a void of powerlessness he feels. He seems to be remembering his prime days in the military, mixing in fantasies of being a physicist, L.O.R.D, a la a Schizotypal personality disorder.

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Hi Justoneman

    It's true, we can all tap into that direct source within, and this is what I always encourage people to try to do.

    The shaman goes within, in trance, to meet with the spirits in their own dimensions.
    Hi Ishtar - I finally had to sleep as it was near 5 AM my time -

    I understand your distinctions quiet clearly as to those who use group ritual as opposed to a shaman that journeys within. I also realize you have done a great deal of research of the Dragon paths and I sense you may have chosen a shamanic path for yourself.

    All I suggest (and this is from my gut as well as based on my own personal experience) is that Drake may have traveled a long road that carried him through the experience of Dragon societies only to emerge from that - due to its own limitations (Modwiz addressed this point well in a previous post - essentially that group think can be limiting).

    So my questions to Ishtar specifically and anyone else that has thoughts along these lines are:

    Could it be possible that Drake is now living his experience in the form one might label as shamanic?

    If not why would that not be possible?

    I am really hoping, Ishtar, to get your direct feedback to this direct question as right now I have a sense that you do not believe this is possible.

    I finished reading through your posts in ishtargate and compliment you on your research. justoneman
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    Thanks Vivek. My opinion is that he is following a personal agenda and is not linked to or carrying out the orders of any group other than what he has created. What concerns me about all his lies, half truths and stories is that he can be dangerous and cause suffering. He has easily found followers who defend him and believe everything he says, without requiring verification or using discernment or own thinking (to me, this is what mind control is). How far will he go? What will he require people to do?
    I doubt very seriously that Drake is making all this up - far too many that are in the loop have vetted Drake and far too many are involved with various elements of this unfolding story.

    Now, could Drake, David Wilcock (the two public figures) as well as the several military (current and former) as well as alphabets (current and former) as well as other insiders who have proven (at least up until now) they are the real deal to Drake and Wilcock who Drake and David Wilcock purport they are in contact with all be set up? It is surely possible. My gut (but this may just be my hope) says this is unlikely.

    I will say that when Bill Ryan weighed in - "I sobered up a bit from my original pink cloud." Also, many other posts have impacted my "hope meter." I am prepared for any truth as I respect Bill tremendously, he has immense experience (far more than I likely ever will) with these things and he had the Charles experience specifically. So the fact that Bill basically says "he smells a rat" and suggests we be very cautious with this Drake stuff means a great deal to me. I also respect most of the posters who have spent time on this subject and appreciate all views.

    Having said all that - It is far better to be prepared if this Plan goes to significant operational stages such that us folk down here at what I call Tier 2 level can be of help.

    This is my primary focus and is the motivation behind all my posts related to Drake. I never want to experience a.) which is the irreversible end game nor leave that fate to my children, my loved ones, and everyone else for that matter.

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    Some observations from the original Wilcock interview:

    I found it interesting to hear David talking like a tough guy about not being afraid to die and such. Me thinks that's like closing the barn door after the horses have already run off.

    Interesting and quite possible scenario of a split military. Don't know how one could possibly predict which way that might roll though, too many variables, so his assurances that it's going to be just hunky dory if we see American troops on our city streets are not very re-assuring. I'll make my own determination if/when that should happen, and then proceed accordingly from there.

    The mass arrest thing. For the life of me I can't imagine why you would give "the bad guys" a heads up that you're coming to get them. I'm no military strategist, but I reckon West Point doesn't teach it's a good idea to strike up the band when you're about to pounce on the enemy.

    Why does he lend creedence to the U.N. and the International Court at The Hague? We need THEIR blessings to establish our sovereignty? I think not.

    Now, I just want to finish by saying that my skepticism doesn't necessarily mean I think Drake is a plant, a bad guy, or whatever. He could be, could not be. Good and well meaning people can suddenly find themselves with a platform to spread their message, if in the long run it happens to favor the existing power structure. Glenn Beck comes to mind. The most truth you'll hear on the radio, outside of Alex Jones of course, but in the end he leads his listeners right down a big fat dead end.

    And lastly, while we're busy waiting to see what Drake has to say next, and be apprised of how "the plan" is proceeding, we're not looking at how WE can be the change we want to see in this world.

    I'm not trying to please anyone here, or piss anyone off. Just calling it like I see it.

    Cheers All,
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    I will say that when Bill Ryan weighed in - "I sobered up a bit from my original pink cloud." Also, many other posts have impacted my "hope meter." I am prepared for any truth as I respect Bill tremendously, he has immense experience (far more than I likely ever will) with these things and he had the Charles experience specifically. So the fact that Bill basically says "he smells a rat" and suggests we be very cautious with this Drake stuff means a great deal to me. I also respect most of the posters who have spent time on this subject and appreciate all views.
    Is this your own perspective of how Bill Ryan perceives Drake or has Bill commented somewhere?
    Considering we are never more than 1 meter away from a Rat, Bill may have just "liked" the research that the OP brought forward.

    As always move forward with caution.

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Could it be possible that Drake is now living his experience in the form one might label as shamanic?

    If not why would that not be possible?

    I am really hoping, Ishtar, to get your direct feedback to this direct question as right now I have a sense that you do not believe this is possible.

    I finished reading through your posts in ishtarsgate and compliment you on your research. justoneman
    Hi justoneman,

    Glad to hear you're feeling refreshed.

    I'd like to answer your question but I wouldn't be able to give you anything of much worth, because in a sea of possibilities, anything is possible but without any firm knowledge about Drake's spiritual path, how can anyone say?

    That's why I think Vivek's done such an excellent job here, in digging up his past, so that at least we know something more about this voice on the radio giving us instructions about what to do when they mount their coup. That way, people can make their own decisions.

    I will say this, though.

    The shamanic way is the birthright of every single one of us.

    Anyone can learn to journey like a shaman, because man naturally used to do that without thinking twice about it, tens of thousands of years ago. It's in our anatomy, in our physiology and in our DNA. It's our's by right. Yes, we are a bit rusty now...after several millennia of repression and suppression. But we still have the necessary bits inside to claim our birthright, which is to journey within the Three Worlds (or dimensions) and meet with the loving and benevolent entities (or spirits) there who give us guidance, information and healing... and whatever else is necessary ... and then we bring it back to our tribe or our community.

    So yes, Drake could be a shaman... but he hasn't yet said anything that would indicate to me that he is.

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    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    Thanks Vivek. My opinion is that he is following a personal agenda and is not linked to or carrying out the orders of any group other than what he has created. What concerns me about all his lies, half truths and stories is that he can be dangerous and cause suffering. He has easily found followers who defend him and believe everything he says, without requiring verification or using discernment or own thinking (to me, this is what mind control is). How far will he go? What will he require people to do?
    I doubt very seriously that Drake is making all this up - far too many that are in the loop have vetted Drake and far too many are involved with various elements of this unfolding story.

    Now, could Drake, David Wilcock (the two public figures) as well as the several military (current and former) as well as alphabets (current and former) as well as other insiders who have proven (at least up until now) they are the real deal to Drake and Wilcock who Drake and David Wilcock purport they are in contact with all be set up? It is surely possible. My gut (but this may just be my hope) says this is unlikely.

    I will say that when Bill Ryan weighed in - "I sobered up a bit from my original pink cloud." Also, many other posts have impacted my "hope meter." I am prepared for any truth as I respect Bill tremendously, he has immense experience (far more than I likely ever will) with these things and he had the Charles experience specifically. So the fact that Bill basically says "he smells a rat" and suggests we be very cautious with this Drake stuff means a great deal to me. I also respect most of the posters who have spent time on this subject and appreciate all views.

    Having said all that - It is far better to be prepared if this Plan goes to significant operational stages such that us folk down here at what I call Tier 2 level can be of help.

    This is my primary focus and is the motivation behind all my posts related to Drake. I never want to experience a.) which is the irreversible end game nor leave that fate to my children, my loved ones, and everyone else for that matter.
    Please name one person that can be verified to fit any of those descriptions, it is VERY easy to find public records on former (or current) military members & quite often members of CIA,NSA, FBI etc also; I have not heard of ONE verifiable source (individual or otherwise) that corroborates any of this information; you seem to be saying this is not the case.

    what I have seen is "internet celeb.s" verifying each other, wilcock verifies fulford, both verify drake, drake verifies both, and round and round we go.... selective perception, hope, ego, these all twist our minds into acceptance of ideas that may not be acceptable to others based on the same information, I understand that and don't discount what I'm hearing just because I'm skeptical, but I have not seen what you hint at here, not at all (and I've been looking).

    I know what I say is very contrary to "popular belief" here on P.A.; but that shouldn't (and doesn't) influence truth or the seeking of it; if I am incorrect or have missed something please point me in the right direction.


    warm & fuzzy "love" and "intent" aside... we don't need a false cheerleader (drake, if he is indeed "false") to lead our intent or to help us care for / help one another... I sense more "sit back and wait for someone else to save you" mentality here, and I understand just how attractive this is to humans; I also think that it is highly damaging and encourages complacency and in-action.... something I am STRONGLY against.
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    Billiji,

    Bill Ryan said this here:

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Hi, All -- a quick note:

    I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

    The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

    ***

    I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.



    Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    The mass arrest thing. For the life of me I can't imagine why you would give "the bad guys" a heads up that you're coming to get them. I'm no military strategist, but I reckon West Point doesn't teach it's a good idea to strike up the band when you're about to pounce on the enemy.
    It's not appropriate to reveal certain details beforehand. But saying "we'll get you" is like Ali saying "I'll knock you out in round 1". In the business of creating a reality, affirmations, suggestions and assertiveness can be very valuable. The existence of white hats within the system and the formation of a movement that intends to hold "the bad guys" accountable was always a certainty in the bigger picture. Drake is not revealing any secret crucial information about where and when anything happens. One aspect of what he does is doing a war-growl, as do the "globalists" in their ways.

    What I particularly like about Drake is that he reminds people, that there are quite some awake and positive people working within the system and in a calming and inspiring way he gets people to consider the possibility of a peaceful transition, that involves holding the perpetrators of our current flawed system accountable. In this way he really helps to plant nice seeds in the minds of men. It's a thin line however, one could argue this scenario does not involve personal responsibility, which is key in our collective evolution, but I didn't notice him saying "we'll fix it for you, you helpless ones", on the contrary I heard him talk about what people can do to be a balancing, stabilizing and creative factor in the whole equation. And I think through discerment one can realize this anyways, that mass arrests are one piece of the puzzle, we filling that power vacuum in a creative and responsible way another.

    Sorry for writing off-topic, regarding all the other information about Drake, I have not doublechecked and researched it all yet, but anyways, it's a very intruiging thread and nice to read something from you again Fred

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    Addressing thoughts from Fred Steeves

    Quote The mass arrest thing. For the life of me I can't imagine why you would give "the bad guys" a heads up that you're coming to get them. I'm no military strategist, but I reckon West Point doesn't teach it's a good idea to strike up the band when you're about to pounce on the enemy.
    My guess on this is that Drake, et al realize that all their planning is already well known and how could it not be with all the eaves dropping capabilities of the NSA and related agencies? So if one accepts that likely reality, then one makes decisions having this likely reality in mind.

    The basis for going public is to obtain assistance from us tier 2 individuals. If you think about it, this makes some sense. By Tier 2 folk like us having a heads up, we (who are in better position to discern as to the true intentions based on the actions of sheriffs and marshals - which are only to be backed up by current military - are indeed in line with the objectives of The Plan as opposed to actions that would be taken by these same authorities if we are instead all being set up) we can assist in the operational phases of the Plan once the Big Shoes drop. I might add that the highest level within Tier 2 includes retired military and alphabets, and a plethora of contractors as well as their families who will likely be clued in before the general public.

    Quote Why does he lend creedence to the U.N. and the International Court at The Hague? We need THEIR blessings to establish our sovereignty? I think not.
    Somehow most folk here do not seem to get this one - This is a notification process - It is meant to be what has been stated to be a key requirement of the 90% to get them further (and perhaps fully) on board.

    I will add that (though I have no clue if this has also been considered) This notification puts forth into the public domain energetic field the intention - it is intended for those who are susceptible to these levels of energy intention. Many researches, including David Icke, have alerted us as to how some 'players' within the cabal practice magic thus they believe in this energy manipulation and thus, then are likely susceptible to the same.

    Quote And lastly, while we're busy waiting to see what Drake has to say next, and be apprised of how "the plan" is proceeding, we're not looking at how WE can be the change we want to see in this world.
    I can only speak for myself, but I do both with the later being my personal primary focus as I live each moment. Being the change does not limit one such that one cannot be proactive.

    justone

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Could it be possible that Drake is now living his experience in the form one might label as shamanic?

    If not why would that not be possible?

    I am really hoping, Ishtar, to get your direct feedback to this direct question as right now I have a sense that you do not believe this is possible.

    I finished reading through your posts in ishtarsgate and compliment you on your research. justoneman
    Hi justoneman,

    Glad to hear you're feeling refreshed.

    I'd like to answer your question but I wouldn't be able to give you anything of much worth, because in a sea of possibilities, anything is possible but without any firm knowledge about Drake's spiritual path, how can anyone say?

    That's why I think Vivek's done such an excellent job here, in digging up his past, so that at least we know something more about this voice on the radio giving us instructions about what to do when they mount their coup. That way, people can make their own decisions.

    I will say this, though.

    The shamanic way is the birthright of every single one of us.

    Anyone can learn to journey like a shaman, because man naturally used to do that without thinking twice about it, tens of thousands of years ago. It's in our anatomy, in our physiology and in our DNA. It's our's by right. Yes, we are a bit rusty now...after several millennia of repression and suppression. But we still have the necessary bits inside to claim our birthright, which is to journey within the Three Worlds (or dimensions) and meet with the loving and benevolent entities (or spirits) there who give us guidance, information and healing... and whatever else is necessary ... and then we bring it back to our tribe or our community.

    So yes, Drake could be a shaman... but he hasn't yet said anything that would indicate to me that he is.
    Maybe this will help sort some of it out in regards to what y'all are discussing.

    Drake said:

    Quote We are those who show The Path to others in the ancient tradition of a shaman.
    From: http://community.humanityhealing.net...le/DrakeBailey



    I have been trying to post "part 2" but I am literally inundated with information that I haven't had to read with much detail before much less connect the dots.

    You all are probably familiar with a lot of it:

    Enki and Enlil

    The Dragon Court and Order

    The Age of Aquarius

    The real problem I am having is finding the evidence (sufficient enough for myself) to make the distinctions between underlying agendas/end-game between the two different Illuminati. Light vs dark, good vs evil, etc etc enlightenment vs deception

    Did y'all know that there is Qabala (Ha Qabala/QBL) with means enlightenment, and then there is Kabalah (KBL) meaning confusion?

    and Lucifer and Satan where two separate beings originally before they both got swept under the name "the Devil"

    Sand and sugar

    and I found this website very informative:

    http://www.halexandria.org/

    Also, I couldnt find what Sumerian God was associated with Uranus or Saturn ... nothing definite anyway... anybody?
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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    So yes, Drake could be a shaman... but he hasn't yet said anything that would indicate to me that he is.
    I personally doubt a true shaman would ever have to nor would he need to, but what do I know?

    and as synchronicity goes, I just noticed in the post above something Vivek found - from Drake

    Quote We are those who show The Path to others in the ancient tradition of a shaman.
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    I cannot think of a single "master" that has ever labeled himself as anything - at least from everything I have ever read. Normally it is everyone else that places labels upon each other. What does that say about us?

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Did y'all know that there is Qabala (Ha Qabala/QBL) with means enlightenment, and then there is Kabalah (KBL) meaning confusion?

    and Lucifer and Satan where to separate beings originally before they both got swept under the name "the Devil"
    points well made - - Thanks Vivek... you have a fan in justone

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