Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

[noprophet]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Hello noprophet,

Thanks for your contribution. Here is the webpage from which I gleaned my information:

http://www.halexandria.org/dward465.htm

And here is an excerpt:

Strictly speaking, according to Gardner, Qabala (or the QBL, meaning “enlightenment”) should not be equated to Kabalah (or the KBL, meaning “confusion”) or worse yet, to the Kabbalah (or KBBL, implying even greater intrigue and twisting). The latter, in fact, is related to the English work, cabal (which is defined as “a secret intrigue, a political clique or faction”). Similarly, the Jewish mystical tradition, the cabala, cabbala, or kabbala, is defined as “mystic interpretation; any esoteric doctrine of occult lore”. One can view the distinctions as two separate movements within mystical thought, one of which, the Ha Qabala, has been largely ignored in recent centuries.

One reason for this is that “Qabalistic masters maintain that it was not the serpent (Enki) [in the Garden of Eden] who was the deceiver as we are led to understand. The deceiver in this instance was Enki’s half-brother, Eloh-Jehovah (Enlil), who said that Adam would die from eating the fruit.” Small wonder that the “confusion” of the Kabalah has taken mainstage over the “enlightenment” of the Ha Qabala. And while Adam was ultimately enlightened by the female (having been prompted by Enki) as to the true circumstances of the eating of the fruit (and thus partially relieved of the deception), the ultimate victims of deceit are the recipients of the corrupted interpretation -- which is the mainstream of Jewish, Christian, and Islamic thought. Enlil’s deception lives on!

This, I think (as I am by far an authority on the subject), is were the truly sacred knowledge of the ancients splits with the perversion that is the "Illuminaughty". I'm probably wearing out the term, but again, sand and sugar.

I've also read that the Age of Aquarius heralds mankinds (meaning man AND women if you follow the etymology) embrace of the intuitive feminine principle of spirituality. Completing the eventuality that was set in motion by eating from the tree of knowledge, lifting the veil of deception/reign of ignorance or something like that.

At least that's where I'm at right now. I'm open to learning more if you care to compare notes.

When Abraham arrived in Canaan, promoting a Mesopotamian tradition of Enlil, he was said to have access to a “uniquely inscribed tablet of ideograms”. These ideograms were conceptual symbols which did not specifically translate into words -- the same situation in some Chinese characters. The concept is also fundamental to Tarot, in that symbolism of the meaning of a card is more important than what can be interpreted by vainly attempting to reduce the meaning to words. Ideograms, in general, are not meant to be translated, but meditated upon, allowing the feelings to go where the mind will normally not.

This is pretty correct but you do not need to invest in the story. The stories are a means to convey a set of infomration. You do not ever need to remeber who did what where unless you really get into the numerological aspects and start assigning "sounds" (hebrew letters) numbers; all phonetically, hence my confusion why he would be caught up on the spelling of something that relies on phonetics.

However, more to the point; "These ideograms were conceptual symbols which did not specifically translate into words." This is a referance to the sephirot which do not have direct translations. Well--they do, but they shouldn't. A sephirot is a concept. For instance the concept of creating is a sephirot, concept of destruction is one, the concept of balance, concept of victory and the concept of glory. There are a few others but those are probably the least abstract.

This has the odd effect of making you invoke the experience of these things in order to define them rather than simply explain something in words that will be inherently hollow. The sephirot are the operandi, or motives but not the modus or what is causing them to go (dare I say by invoking those things you are causing them to go ). The thing that is making them go is forever unknowable (e.g. cannot speak the name of god.) What is produced by this unknown modus, however, is what we call da'ath wich is not really a sephirot, rather it is conciousness itself; the eye in the trinity of objective, subjective and 'field' that exists in all measurement (da'ath is the observer).

This movement of conciousness between these "spheres" of existence is portrayed as a snake. The sephirot the snake is moving through or between or the conjuction of sephirot it's moving between in a given order represent meanings. Due to each sephirot and path between them also being a letter/number these can be expressed mathamatically as well as tonally. (ever wonder where magic words came form?) These snakes also happen to form letters when placed on the tree of life (otz chaim).



That snake actually represents the full progression of sephirot form unknown to known. I'd go into this more but I don't want to get to technical. I've been meaning to make a thread for this stuff at some point.

I'll write more on this at some point but Dion Fortune is an exellent source.

//

p.s. If you really want to have some word fun ^_^ ~
kab (hebrew) - Container
alah(allah) - allah (arm, leg, leg, arm, head to my 5%ers )

-or-

God Container

[DreamsInDigital]

I don't base any of my information on anything channeled, as it's already been said a good 96% or so is psy-ops of some sort. Where I was going with this is that there is a distinction between REAL dragons, and the Reptilians from the Draco / Hydra Constellations. It could be argued that they are "all" Reptoids, but then that's like saying we're "all" humans, and including us in with the humanoid/human ET/ED Races. Dragons are not the same as the Draco and Hydra Reptilians, which are Regressives/Negative Reptoids. And, where/why the Dracos and Hydras are referred to as Draco's and Hydra's. Dragons are real and do exist, but then there is great debate of on what level, what realm etc. There is more real history in Mythology, than there is in History it's self.

[wynderer]

i think we are all getting off topic here -- i believe this thread was meant to be about Drake

thank you for your responses -- i avoid the Kabbalah & systems using symbols -- i 'knew' to avoid them at the beginning of my spiritual quest in my early twenties -- i have since learned that our Matrix controllers use symbols to control Human minds -- even our alphabet is symbols -- replacing the far superior form of communication thru telepathy

[Ishtar]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
I don't base any of my information on anything channeled, as it's already been said a good 96% or so is psy-ops of some sort. Where I was going with this is that there is a distinction between REAL dragons, and the Reptilians from the Draco / Hydra Constellations. It could be argued that they are "all" Reptoids, but then that's like saying we're "all" humans, and including us in with the humanoid/human ET/ED Races. Dragons are not the same as the Draco and Hydra Reptilians, which are Regressives/Negative Reptoids. And, where/why the Dracos and Hydras are referred to as Draco's and Hydra's. Dragons are real and do exist, but then there is great debate of on what level, what realm etc. There is more real history in Mythology, than there is in History it's self.

Sorry, it's probably me being thick again, but I don't follow you here.

According to my understanding, pretty well everything we think we know about Draco and Hydra Reptilians come from the very channelling we are both more or less dismissing as psy-ops? So what value does it have ...?

I have seen dragons in the other dimensions but not this one. They are, in fact, fairly common there.

My shaman teacher used to say that the only difference between history and mythology is that mythology is true!

In other words, myths record universal truths in metaphor and allegory ... not historical events. History is always written by the victors and so rarely true. That we no longer know or are taught how to read this metaphorical language of the ancient myths is one of the tragedies of modern days... not least because it makes us such sitting ducks for any false flag ET invasion scare tactics.

[noprophet]

Posted by wynderer (here)
i think we are all getting off topic here -- i believe this thread was meant to be about Drake

thank you for your responses -- i avoid the Kabbalah & systems using symbols -- i 'knew' to avoid them at the beginning of my spiritual quest in my early twenties -- i have since learned that our Matrix controllers use symbols to control Human minds -- even our alphabet is symbols -- replacing the far superior form of communication thru telepathy

I don't necessarily disagree with you but if you're looking to hack a computer you sure as hell don't start by not learning about computers. Different paths my friend

Anyway, back to topic!

[thunder24]

Posted by noprophet (here)
kab (hebrew) - Container
alah(allah) - allah (arm, leg, leg, arm, head to my 5%ers )

-or-

God Container

finally some one recognized the five....thanku

peace

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Sorry, it's probably me being thick again, but I don't follow you here.
According to my understanding, pretty well everything we think we know about Draco and Hydra Reptilians come from the very channelling we are both more or less dismissing as psy-ops? So what value does it have ...?

You're right, that's why most of what is out there is absolutely wrong. What I know of Reptoids, Grays, Hydras, Dracos, et al comes from a couple of ET/ED contactees that I know personally (and have known for a very long time), and none of which channel anything. They communicate with their ET's through physical contacts and telepathy, plus I have ETs of my own that I communicate through physical contacts and telepathy, no channeling. Plus, being an Incarnate, I have my own memories also. So, that's what I mean by "none of my information is based on channelings." I come from a long long genetic line of psychics, mediums, etc. I just happen to be one in the family that got the Telepathy ability and not the channeling one. It's weird how that plays out in my family lines.

I have seen dragons in the other dimensions but not this one. They are, in fact, fairly common there.

Right, that's why I said what I said. They're definitely real. Just how and where, is a conversation.

My shaman teacher used to say that the only difference between history and mythology is that mythology is true!

Yes, you're teacher is right. That's pretty much also what I was saying, but it was my brother that told me that. I think he just had a different way of putting it than your teacher.

In other words, myths record universal truths in metaphor and allegory ... not historical events. That we no longer know or are taught how to read this metaphorical language is one of the tragedies of modern days... not least because it makes us such sitting ducks for any false flag ET invasion scare tactics.

I totally agree. Completely. It's something we all should know and learn.

Certainly the definitions between Regressives/Negatives, and Positives, are very complex and multi-layered and very even within each race and species out there. It's all a multitude of different shades of gray when you get down into it, but I prefer to keep it as simple and easy to follow for most people that read my posts/comments to avoid a million questions that delve into a never ending slew of complications. Plus it makes it easier for most to read. And, then for those that already know and understand it makes a quicker reading

[Chester]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Oh... well, I tell people I'm a shaman, as does Drake in Vivek's post which I hadn't seen until now. Otherwise, how will they know where to go to get healing or guidance etc? Most people are not mindreaders.

And then there's this bit...

I am known as The Dragon Master, White Dragon, as is stated in the old legend. I still have a few requirements to meet before the great conflict starts.

He was specifically asked about that, and he said No.

Personally, I think the man is full of it!

Apologies Ishtar, but I seem to get pulled into this one again and again - yet I have to try one more time.

Why does someone's possible past become permanently attached to their present and future? Please explain the logic in that?

Boxing anyone into their past permanently negates one from ever making changes. It also means that if said individual ever made a mistake, that individual can never be of benefit to anyone much less made changes that benefit themselves. I also must add that not all Dragon path societies are dark, in fact many are about exploring aspects of the ALL which happens to include the darker experiences.

Please address these statements.

If the guy has moved on - he didn't lie plain and simple - what I heard Drake say on the broadcast was that he dabbled and moved on. Did anyone else not hear the same thing?

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by justoneman (here)

I can completely understand your position. I know I happen to have an advantage based on specific personal relationships I have and the content and implications of discussions I have had with these folks. But again, you are faced with the same dilemma - "Who am I?" "What do I really know?" Then we can go into the lower levels as to "What proof of anything do I have?" and on and on

At least the Drake experience so far assisted my further personal growth and understanding (of humanity).

Hi justoneman, after spending some time reading over your past posts, and now especially this one, I'm compelled to ask you a very direct question:

Are you Drake?

[Chester]

Posted by noprophet (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
Did y'all know that there is Qabala (Ha Qabala/QBL) with means enlightenment, and then there is Kabalah (KBL) meaning confusion?

and Lucifer and Satan where to separate beings originally before they both got swept under the name "the Devil"

points well made - - Thanks Vivek... you have a fan in justone

To the best of my knowledge kabbalah simply means "to receive" in hebrew. Qabalah was a variant spelling created by the golden dawn. Probably for elaborate reasons of using gemetria outside the hebrew alphabet.

Where is this translation of confusion derived from?

Correct - some even spell it with a C - it is my understanding the Islamic mystics spell it with a Q. If one wants to understand more about the Qabalah (I am used to spelling it with a Q) then investigate the Qliphoth which is like an alternate (and darker) reality created off of the Qabalah.

clearly noprophet has a great deal of experience with Qabalah - I have very little - I hope he/she starts the thread he/she has mentioned in post #101

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

I can completely understand your position. I know I happen to have an advantage based on specific personal relationships I have and the content and implications of discussions I have had with these folks. But again, you are faced with the same dilemma - "Who am I?" "What do I really know?" Then we can go into the lower levels as to "What proof of anything do I have?" and on and on

At least the Drake experience so far assisted my further personal growth and understanding (of humanity).

Hi justoneman, after spending some time reading over your past posts, and now especially this one, I'm compelled to ask you a very direct question:

Are you Drake?

I can tell you he is not Drake.

[noprophet]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Correct - some even spell it with a C - it is my understanding the Islamic mystics spell it with a Q. If one wants to understand more about the Qabalah (I am used to spelling it with a Q) then investigate the Qliphoth which is like an alternate (and darker) reality created off of the Qabalah.

The Qliphoth is the inverse tree where the sephirot have become unbalanced. Roughly equivalent to inverting the pentagram for those familiar with witchcraft/wicca/ceremonial. (4 elements/god [or] god/4elements)

Strength becomes cruelty; beauty becomes vanity; understanding becomes judgement.

The qabalist method invokes its definitions. I do not play with the Qliphoth though I have a logistical understanding of it. Not recommended for beginners.

[Chester]

To noprophet - excellent post #101 - thanks

To Target - terrible choice of words I used - "enlightened" - you understood my meaning and corrected me with the better term "alternatively informed."

[Chester]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

I can completely understand your position. I know I happen to have an advantage based on specific personal relationships I have and the content and implications of discussions I have had with these folks. But again, you are faced with the same dilemma - "Who am I?" "What do I really know?" Then we can go into the lower levels as to "What proof of anything do I have?" and on and on

At least the Drake experience so far assisted my further personal growth and understanding (of humanity).

Hi justoneman, after spending some time reading over your past posts, and now especially this one, I'm compelled to ask you a very direct question:

Are you Drake?

Wow - no - I am happy to PM you who I am, my name, where I live, etc. I certainly know the tones of my posts suggest I am aligned with him and/or affiliated in some way so let me clear it up now -

I never heard of Drake until the Wilcock/Drake interview went live.

I do have personal relationships with some insiders and in late 2011 had some interesting conversations with a few. Because of those conversations, the subsequent Wilcock/Drake interview and then the subsequent broadcasts, combined with all the 2012 hype and finally and admittedly first and foremost, my hope, I want to believe the Plan to be real and possible and so I have plunged head first into working on how I and the rest of us alternatively informed (thanks Target) could be helpful both now and in the event a Big Shoe drops.

There's the honest truth - and the whole truth

I will add that I have had an abduction experience and had several other experiences which has made opening my mind to all possibility far easier than most.

I will also add that this thread by Vivek is outstanding - justoneman

[Jeffrey]

I'm trying to make sense of The Royal Dragon Court, Sumerian history, and the current events...

According to Sumerian texts (as detailed in Genesis of the Grail Kings [1]), during a visit by their father, Anu (the archetypal absentee landlord), the Anunnaki made a decision:

“The gods had clasped their hands together,

Had cast lots and had divided.

Anu then went up to heaven.

To Enlil the Earth was made subject.

The seas, enclosed as with a loop,

They had given to Enki, the Prince of Earth.”

Sounds fair. However. As Laurence Gardner points out: “Enki was not happy about his brother’s promotion because, although Enlil was the elder of the two, his mother (Ki) was Anu’s junior sister, whereas Enki’s mother (Antu) was the senior sister. True kingship, claimed Enki, progressed as a matrilineal institution through the female line, and by this right of descent Enki maintained that he was the first born of the royal succession.”

“I am the great brother of the gods.

I am he who has been born as the first son of the divine Anu.”

If there is a philosophy of Enki, it manifests and explains itself in early Mesopotamian and Egyptian thought, where the true creator of the universe was manifest within nature, and that nature enveloped both the Anunnaki, and the humans. Nature, as the Great Mother, was still supreme, despite any patriarchal scheme to the contrary. Admittedly, Enki’s claim of his birthright, the one being based on a matrilineal succession -- essentially the mitochondria DNA link, which is wholly passed through the female line -- was in Enki’s best interests. But Enki was also the maternal grandfather who came to the aid of Inanna when things went badly during her Descent into the Underworld.

With the arrival of Enlil, however, who in his best interests must demean the matriarchal line of succession, and thus nature itself -- everything changed. The Great Mother was dethroned and replaced by a supreme male (as opposed to a male consort for the Queen). The idea of cooperation -- as exemplified by the council of Anunnaki making cooperative decisions -- was quickly replaced by competition, and harmony was forsaken in favor of subservience. The supreme god became abstract, and any physical connection with human or nature was lost -- and thus the link between nature and human also destroyed. When Enlil hit town, there was a whole new deal put into effect.

Source: http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

It was the Lord Enki, on the other hand, who (despite the wrath of his brother) granted the Sumerians access to the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life. It was Enki who set up the escape strategy during the Flood, and it was Enki who passed over the time-honoured Tables of Destiny - the tablets of scientific law which became the bedrock of the early mystery schools in Egypt.

The kings of the early succession (who reigned in Sumer and Egypt before becoming kings in Israel) were anointed upon installation with the fat of the sacred crocodile. This noble beast was referred to as the Mûs-hûs or Messeh (from which derived the Hebrew verb ’to anoint’) - and the Kings of this dynastic succession were referred to as Messiahs (meaning Anointed Ones).

The first king of the Messianic succession was the biblical Cain, head of the Sumerian House of Kish. On recognizing this, one can immediately see an early anomaly in the traditional Genesis story, for the historical line to David and Jesus was not from Adam and Eve’s son Seth at all. It descended from Eve’s son Cain.

Conventional teaching generally cites Cain as being the first son of Adam and Eve - but he was not; even the book of Genesis tells us that he was not. In fact, it confirms how Eve told Adam that Cain’s father was the Lord - who was of course Enki the archetype. Even outside the Bible, the writings of the Hebrew Talmud and Midrash make it quite plain that, although Cain was Eve’s eldest son, he was not the son of Adam.

The Old Testament book of Genesis (in its translated form) tells us that Cain was ’a tiller of the ground’ - but this is not what the original text relates. What it states is that Cain had ’dominion over the earth’, which is a rather different matter when considering his kingly status.

Source: http://dragon-society.livejournal.com/

This is how the Dragon bloodlines started, as I understand it, through Enki and Eve---> Cain ---> Kainship ---> Kinship (blood-related) ---> Kingship

...a sacred royal family whose roots go back to the times of the Egyptian Pharaohs, and to the Sumerian Gods before them. It paints a picture of the beginnings of the Grail bloodline in an antediluvian civilization, with a super-human, red-haired race of Grail kings that conquered and ruled over the primitive hordes of the ancient world, with tribes on each continent. These kings guided the destiny of all civilized man. They were overseers, “navigators”, directing the affairs of the world with the Solomonic wisdom inherent in their blood. They created all of the traditions, customs and institutions upon which civilization depends.

To the members of the Dragon Court, it is the blood itself, which provides the basis for the “divine right” of Dragons to be the overseers of society. The most amazing of all, they believe that the sacred “Grail” or Dragon DNA contains genes specifically programmed for “magic.” The Dragon Legacy has illustrated for the first time the scientific principles behind the effective use of ritual magic, and why some “magicians” are more effective than others. It explains the significance of the “Grail bloodline”, irrespective of modern pseudo-intellectual theories and religious doctrines.

Source: http://www.ancientwisdom.net/events/dragonLegacy.html

This is more or less an oath of the members of the Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order:

The Five Holy Obligations. They are:


1. Protection of the Earth
2. Upholding of Peace
3. Support of the Downtrodden
4. Defence of the Feminine
5. Pursuit of Knowledge

It is in these respects that the Court of the Dragon is most active - supporting at all times the sovereignty of the individual and the responsibilities to protect life and liberty which are inherent within that sovereignty, while pursuing avenues of hitherto suppressed knowledge for the benefit of all. The primary aspects of the Order's constitution are: Nobility, Equity and Justice.

Source: http://www.zsigmond.co.uk/royal_dragon_page.htm

Now, considering all of this in the backdrop of Fulford's "White Dragon Society/The Dragon Family" I think these people are the cream of the crop when it comes to bloodline lineages relating to the Nahash.

I can't find anything on Enlil's lineage, if he does indeed have one. I'm just trying to tie history to the characters on the scene today (or behind it). Obviously there is a war going on between THE LIGHT and THE DARK or whatever polarities you wish to assign them.

Now I think the astrological Ages of the Zodiac tie into all of this as well.

The age of Aries was ruled by Enlil, and, for a short time, Marduk.

As we moved into the Age of Picses Enki became the superficial ruler, while Enlil played behind the scenes.

Now we are moving into the Age of Aquarius.

Read this:

Just prior to the Age of Aries is the Age of Taurus (4600 to 2400 B.C.E.). Taurus is very much a female sign, and implies an Age “ruled” by the Goddess. This was also the time when Alpha Draconis was being recognized as the pole star. This is noteworthy in that in most goddess cultures, the dragon is considered the defender of the feminine. This is also why Saint George allegedly slaying the dragon is but a metaphor for the patriarchy’s ascent over the prior matriarchal cultures -- described more fully in Astrology According to the Goddess and the goddess, Inanna’s Descent into Hades). However, because the Anunnaki is a male dominated, chauvinistic group, there is little likelihood that the Goddess’s authority went unchallenged. It is more likely that the day-to-day, routine bloodshed in war and otherwise was temporarily muted somewhat.

Of perhaps more relevance to those of us living today, however, is the rapid approach of the Age of Aquarius. This age, being astrologically “ruled” by Uranus, will supposedly come under the province of the god, Anu (the father of Enki and Enlil). Historically, Anu has demonstrated something of a “hands-off” management style, leaving a lot of the details to his two sons -- who did not get along at all (and is probably the cause of human misery during the last ten thousand years!). Because of Anu’s history, there appears no way to guess what to expect with respect to the coming Age of Aquarius.

With one exception: Anu is the ruler of Nibiru (the alleged home planet of the Anunnaki), and because of the Nibiru Cycle -- which keeps Nibiru at an enormous distance from the Earth during the next couple of hundred years -- there is little likelihood that Anu will be doing any management of Earth -- hands on or hands off. Instead, there will more likely be a continuation of the present, dismal state of affairs, or if Enlil is so inclined, a return to the days of Enki versus Enlil; the personification of free will versus obeying the whims of a god or goddess.

[EDIT: you know what, on second thought, in the spirit of this thread, I'm not gonna add my kool-aide.]

I'm just trying to recognize the patterns here and fit the pieces together.

I will update this post in particular as I continue to research all of this. There is much that I have left out but this is the jist of it.

I'm not proping Drake up, or putting him down. This wasn't intended to be that kind of thread. It's about scrutiny and putting the pieces together.

[CeltMan]

Regarding the aspect discussed here about dragons, I can offer from my own experience the following: I was a member of a UK based Japanese Shinto organisation for approx. 7 years.

The Japanese Shinto actually worship dragons, which are held in very high esteem, and as an essential basis of their religion, which is called ‘Shinto’

Their worship of dragons is taken very seriously, and they perform very elaborate ceremonies to worship dragons.
The Japanese subscribe great powers to dragons. They believe that it was dragons who created this planet.
They attribute specific colours to dragons who are responsible for: wealth creation, health; weather control; creation of-mountains; rivers; lakes, seas, land masses etc

I do recall that the predominant colours were: red dragon; white dragon; gold dragon.

During my time with the Shinto group, there was a change of ‘High Priest’
Although I got along with the previous priest, and indeed helped him assimilate into British culture, he took his role very seriously.

With the new fellow//high priest, he was more laid back, we struck up a close friendship. He was also an experienced Judoka, and we shared a good sense of humour.

So one day I broached the subject of the ‘hugely different perception regarding dragons, here in UK and in Japanese culture’
I showed him a picture of St. George on horseback, slaying the dragon at his feet.
He was both amazed and appreciative for this info.

I also explained respectfully, that being British, my culture caused me some misgivings in allowing me to worship dragons.

Although having said that, those that know me, know that I do not readily ‘give my power//allegiance to anyone or thing’

Interesting and thorough research Vivek.

For me, I am of the ‘wait & see’ persuasion regarding Drake, although as ‘my cup is always half full’- I do Hope that good times are a coming.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_dragon

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dragon, by Hokusai.

Japanese dragons are diverse legendary creatures in Japanese mythology and folklore. Japanese dragon myths amalgamate native legends with imported stories about dragons from China, Korea and India. The style of the dragon was heavily influenced by the Chinese dragon.

Like these other Asian dragons, most Japanese ones are water deities associated with rainfall and bodies of water, and are typically depicted as large, wingless, serpentine creatures with clawed feet.

The modern Japanese language has numerous "dragon" words, including indigenous tatsu from Old Japanese ta-tu, Sino-Japanese ryū or ryō 竜 from Chinese lóng 龍, nāga ナーガ from Sanskrit nāga, and doragon ドラゴン from English dragon. “}
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http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/dragon.shtml

DRAGON MYTHOLOGY. A mythological animal of Chinese origin, and a member of the NAGA (Sanskrit) family of serpentine creatures who protect Buddhism. Japan's dragon lore comes predominantly from China.

Images of the reptilian dragon are found throughout Asia, and the pictorial form most widely recognized today was already prevalent in Chinese ink paintings in the Tang period (9th century AD).

The mortal enemy of the dragon is the Phoenix, as well as the bird-man creature known as Karura. In contrast to Western mythology, Asian dragons are rarely depicted as malevolent. Although fearsome and powerful, dragons are equally considered just, benevolent, and the bringers of wealth and good fortune.

The dragon is also considered a shape shifter who can assume human form and mate with people.

Dragon - Ryutakuji Temple in JapanDragons figure importantly in folk beliefs throughout Asia, and are dressed heavily in Buddhist garb. In India, the birthplace of Buddhism around 500 BC, pre-Buddhist snake or serpentine-like creatures known as the NAGA were incorporated early on into Buddhist mythology.

Described as "water spirits with human shapes wearing a crown of serpents on their heads" or as "snake-like beings resembling clouds," the NAGA are among the eight classes of deities who worship and protect the Historical Buddha.

Even before the Historical Buddha (Siddhartha, Guatama) attained enlightenment, the NAGA King Mucilinda (Sanskrit) is said to have protected Siddhartha from wind and rain for seven days. This motif is found often in Buddhist art from India, represented by images of the Buddha sitting beneath Mucilinda's hood and coils. (Above paragraph adapted from book by M.W. De Visser.)

In China, however, dragon lore existed independently for centuries before the introduction of Buddhism. Bronze and jade pieces from the Shang and Zhou dynasties (16th - 9th centuries BC) depict dragon-like creatures.

By at least the 2nd century BC, images of the dragon are found painted frequently on tomb walls to dispel evil. Buddhism was introduced to China sometime in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD. By the 9th century AD, the Chinese had incorporated the dragon into Buddhist thought and iconography as a protector of the various Buddha and the Buddhist law.

These traditions were adopted by the Japanese (Buddhism did not arrive in Japan until the mid-6th century AD). In both China and Japan, the character for "dragon" (龍) is used often in temple names, and dragon carvings adorn many temple structures. Most Japanese Zen temples, moreover, have a dragon painted on the ceiling of their assembly halls.

[Chester]

Who am I and what am I about - I figured I better put this out there because some folks may get the idea I am something else. Yes, this is off topic, but should be put to rest because I have heavily beaten the Drake drum. - I apologize, Vivek.

In being very honest here - I have studied the same material that Vivek has brought to this thread.

I specifically resonate with/align with the storyline Vivek quotes in post #115 and I align completely with the 5 Holy Obligations but I am not an active member of any Dragon society. I have several relationships that are and I have been able to discuss these concepts with them.

Its my sense that if Drake has also traversed this territory, and has had some of the personal experiences that I have had, he may have awakened to the good guy within himself which has placed him in the position he states he is in now - which is nothing more than being asked to be the spokesman for these so called good guys.

Because of personal experiences I have had, I recognize things in the Drake I have heard on these recent broadcasts that remind me a lot of myself. That's why I am a Drake fan.

I really don't think he is consciously misleading anyone nor consciously part of a setup.

I am less confident that he isn't being setup (and that makes me setup too), but due to some personal relationships I have (and who they happen to be) and conversations I have had with those relationships - I believe in the possibility that Drake is not only for real, but also not being set up.

I add that when I look into the eyes of my three sons, I HOPE with all my heart that a real intervention could actually be in the making.

To Target - great point about waiting around - I am not waiting around personally. If I could arrest and adjudicate suspects of the cabal myself, I would. I say this because I believe there is truth that some in the cabal have plans to kill off vast numbers of humanity on earth (equally important is what that would do to all other life on earth). I also believe folks like Aaron Russo's testimony regarding plans of some of the cabal to have us all chipped or at least do it to our ancestors. I also believe that once the chip is in, we become total slaves and will be permanently separated from our ability to access our spirit and I do not want that for anyone.

I hope for ascension but that does not mean I cannot hope for (and seek ways I can assist) in an actual physical world/3D/5 sense freeing from this clearly sick/small group that I believe has these plans for the rest of us. I do my very best every single day to emulate the person I project in this post. I still make mistakes and learn lessons.

[foreverfan]

Just wondering but did any of you play Dungeons and Dragons when you were younger?

[Jeffrey]

Here is another link about Dragon bloodlines, the divine feminine/goddess, etc etc

It is CHOCK-FULL of relevant information regarding the history of what's being talked about in this thread.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...x/matrix09.htm

[Chester]

This is a great thread - Back to the topic - where are we at?

We all are appreciative of Vivek and his excellent research and there have been outstanding contributions throughout.

Let’s look at the thread’s initial intent – the vetting of Drake via searching about who he is, who he has been, what has he been involved with and perhaps what else is he involved with now (I hope I am being correct here Vivek).

This thread, like most, is just like a tree that sprouts several branches but is still a single tree.

Can we identify the main branches? Here’s the branches I see -

Branch 1 - From the information uncovered, how does this affect our perceptions of Drake and why?

Branch 2 - Much of Drake’s past (and possibly current) associations have been revealed, especially with Dragon societies. Clearly he has been involved, so what does that mean to us?

Branch 3 - This branch spins off to whether Drake still has such associations, because if true then statements in his last broadcast denying this fact cause some of us to cast him as a liar (thus nothing else he says should be taken seriously). Can we trust him at all?

Branch 4 - It seems the biggest branch that has sprung from this tree is discussion about Dragon societies and what are they all about . This to me is the most fascinating branch of all.

I am asking the thread originator Vivek as to which way should this go? Should we still cover all these branches in one thread? Should we consider a thread that covers Dragon societies? Where to Vivek?

EDIT: Just after I posted this, I saw Vivek's next post (just above this one) which suggests direction 4. Am I on track? I still hope we can look at 1, 2 and 3 somehow...