Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

[Endity]

Thrall is my boy I do mad quests for him daily!!!! But to be honest I think he mean Thad not thrall.

[jackovesk]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Whilst listening to the Drake Interview (2012-04-22A-32kbs-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-hours2-3.mp3)

@ 41 mins - One of the Hosts suggested to do your own research on the following...

He stated that 'Admiral Thrall' was involved with 1. Hurricane Katrina 2. BP Oil Disasater 3. Fukushima Tsunami

He even spelt it out T-H-R-A-L-L

He said "If you don't believe me, go look it up for yourself"

• "Put in Admiral in charge of Hurricane Katrina"
  
• "Admiral in charge of BP Disaster"
  
• "Admiral that was in Japan before Fukushima Went-Off"
  
• "You'll find it, its part of the 'Public Record', its not BS, Don't believe me though go find it yourself its there to be found"

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...e-hours2-3.mp3

PS - I took the host up on his challenge and I'm saying...

The only reference to any 'Thrall' I could find was a character name 'Thrall' in the game: World of Warcraft...

Thrall (birthname Go'el), son of Durotan (born 2 years ADP)[2], was the Warchief of the restored orcish Horde and ruler of the red land of Durotar in Kalimdor. Before the Cataclysm, he was Warchief of all the Horde, but temporarily gave leadership to Garrosh Hellscream[3] in order to lead the Earthen Ring's effort with Farseer Nobundo against the Twilight's Hammer cult and elemental imbalance afflicting Azeroth.[4] http://www.wowwiki.com/Thrall

Maybe some others here may have better luck than I in finding the Mysterious 'Admiral Thrall' mentioned in the Drake Interview..?

Posted by Endity (here)
Thrall is my boy I do mad quests for him daily!!!! But to be honest I think he mean Thad not thrall.

Thanks Endity, I think you might be right...

Admiral Thad Allen is the 'Culprit'

[NancyV]

If Drake is or was involved in a dragon society it would actually raise my estimation of him, not that I have a bad opinion of him now. I simply don't think his information about the mass arrests and changes to government will happen. Whether he is lying about it or being mislead is something I don't know. I also have to agree with Bill and Paul that the article on new math seemed like gobbledygook to me. I love math and physics and can understand some pretty far out stuff, but I didn't understand Drake's article. I thought I just might be getting too old and senile to understand it so I'm happy that Bill and Paul were as confused as I was! LOL

I have a strong affinity for dragons. So does my husband. We have dragons all over the house. My husband paints miniatures and he has many dragons of all sizes. I have lots of dragon earrings, we each have several shirts with dragons on them and we even have a HUGE green and red stuffed dragon. The desktop on my computer is a picture of a dragon. In a couple of my posts over the last 2 years I told the story of when a large golden dragon appeared in my house and was there daily for about 2-3 months. It was an other dimensional being who was there watching me.

When Unified Serenity mentioned that she was a descendant of one of the dragon kings I thought I would check on one of my ancestors, King Charlemagne. I found that he had the "Dragon Ring" but I didn't see anything stating that he was specifically one of the "dragon kings" He is mentioned here in this Dragon Society info:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...oodsnake06.htm

One of Europe’s most famous monarchs, Charlemagne the Great, was often called "David" in reference to his famous ancestor, and Habsburg King Otto was called "the son of David." In fact, the European tradition of anointing kings comes from that practiced in the Old Testament. Author George Athas describes how the ceremony symbolized the Lord Yahweh adopting the new king as his own son:
"Firstly, the king was the ‘Anointed’ of Yahweh - the mesiach, from which we derive the term ‘Messiah.’ At his anointing (or his coronation), the Spirit of Yahweh entered the king, giving him superhuman qualities and allowing him to carry out the dictates of the deity. The psalmist of Psalm 45 describes the king as ‘fairer than the sons of men’, and continued to praise his majestic characteristics. This king also had eternal life granted to him by Yahweh. The deity is portrayed as saying to him, ‘You are my son - today I have sired you.’ The king was Yahweh’s Firstborn - the bekhor - who was the heir to his father’s estate. He was ‘the highest of the kings of the earth.’ Thus, the king was adopted by Yahweh at his coronation and, as such, was in closer communion with the deity than the rest of the people. On many occasions, Yahweh was called the king’s god.

The king was distinguished far above the ordinary mortal, rendering him holy and his person sacred. It was regarded as a grievous offence to lay a hand on him. Thus, to overthrow the king was rebellion of the most heinous sort and an affront to the deity who had appointed the king... We can note that the King of Judah and Israel is described in divine terms. He is, for example, seen as sitting at Yahweh’s right hand, and his adopted son. We find similar motifs of Pharaohs seated to the right of a deity of Egypt. Psalm 45:7 calls the king an ‘elohim’ - a god. Psalm 45:7also says ‘Your throne is like God’s throne.’"

Like any beings there would likely be both benevolent and non benevolent dragons and dragon societies. I personally like dragons, at least the more benevolent ones. I liked the way the movie AVATAR depicted the dragons. They could be very dangerous but if they bonded to you they were loyal and helpful.

What is truth? A couple of posters in this thread have brought up the possibility that truth is not one thing to all beings. I agree with that. I also do not believe that lying on occasion is a bad thing. If you have compassion for someone you will lie to them on occasion. In order to avoid hurting others or sometimes to protect them you may find that lying is the best thing to do.

I do not agree that a lie automatically disconnects you from the Source or warps your path. In fact beings in most dimensions, at least this dimension, the astral and a couple of dimensions of higher vibrational frequency, deceive and lie quite often. It's a part of the games that we are playing in these lower dimensions where we bend what looks like reality to create another illusion. There is a lot of manipulation going on until one gets closer to the Source.

I have experienced it personally and I understand that it is only the intention of the deceiver or manipulator that can be positive or negative, and not the deception itself. All these games are actually a blessing because they guide us to look more within since we eventually find out we cannot trust others to tell the truth we want to hear. We can find our own truth if we go within ...and being true to who you are at any moment in time or no time, in any incarnation or dimension.... is, in my opinion, the most important truth. I do not accept others truths, only my own.

We will only know if any of what Drake is saying is truthful if and when it happens. Until then, I don't know. I think some of what he says makes sense, but most of it doesn't make sense to me nor does it seem possible that the mass arrests (or one by one arrests) will happen. I also don't believe it's likely the present government will be overthrown without a violent and bloody conflict.

Here is a song I love from the game SKYRIM called DragonBorn Comes:


Our hero, our hero, claims a warrior’s heart
I tell you, I tell you, the Dragonborn comes
With a Voice wielding power of the ancient Nord art
Believe, believe, the Dragonborn comes
It’s an end to the evil, of all Skyrim’s foes
Beware, beware, the Dragonborn comes
For the darkness has passed, and the legend yet grows
You’ll know, You’ll know the Dragonborn’s come

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J7vrQKLpklI

[sdv]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
This is an article Drake wrote entitled, "New Math, New Understanding".

http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/NF/newbailymath.html

Here is an excerpt:
...

The whole article is a little too technical for me, I wouldn't be good a judging the validity of the math/physics/numerology of it, but feel free to click the link and read it for yourself.

I'm a math graduate. This is 100% nonsense.

A lot of this Drake stuff reminds me of an experience I had with a bipolar (highly intelligent) colleague. He was in the manic phase, sitting in a 24-hour coffee shop and writing notes in a notebook. We took turns to go and sit with him. He was still the same intelligent gentle man so there was nothing scary about him. What he was saying and writing sounded like genius but it was actually incoherent nonsense.

It's like watching a person construct a jigsaw puzzle with pieces from various pictures. here and there something recognisable seems to emerge, but the pieces can never be put together in a way to create one coherent picture (or even almost complete picture even) or even various pictures that relate to each other in a coherent way.

[wynderer]

i figured out what bothers me about Fulford's & Drake's assertion that all the bad guy big bankers etc are going to be rounded up , jailed, & then we can begin our new Earth

this really is beginning to sound like a clever psy-op to me -- likely a good part of the 'alternative' community got all wrapped up in this -- probably lots of Drake & Fulford-Wilcock threads on other forums too

you could put every greedy & psychopathic Human behind bars [& sign every petition that comes down the pike] & it would make no difference to your future -- you Humans do not run or own your planet --

scrolling down thru the threads -- it's becoming apparent to me that the Human capacity for denial is quite a large capacity -- presumably a lot here are familiar w/David Icke & w/the Camelot interviewees -- & at some point you have come across the truth of the ET &/ OD presence here -- but i wouldn't know it from scanning the thread topics

i have seen this in people in my daily life -- it seems that Humans will go to great lengths to have happy warm feelings, & will immediately shut out any info that disturbs your warm fuzzy feelings -- i see this going on here, too [a disappointment -- but Humans are Humans wherever you go, i guess] -- i personally have always preferred learning & facing the truth even if it doesn't feel good -- & i figure if you want to change things, you'd better get to the heart, the root of the problem

if Humans were willing to learn & accept what is really happening -- a take-over of your planet by hostile [& very powerful] beings, then you'd finally learn that you are not alone in this Universe -- a blow to the idea that you are the Crown of Creation, true, but you'd also have a fighting chance of survival

this little ditty that Nancy V posted:

Our hero, our hero, claims a warrior’s heart
I tell you, I tell you, the Dragonborn comes
With a Voice wielding power of the ancient Nord art
Believe, believe, the Dragonborn comes
It’s an end to the evil, of all Skyrim’s foes
Beware, beware, the Dragonborn comes
For the darkness has passed, and the legend yet grows
You’ll know, You’ll know the Dragonborn’s come

-i got to know one of the Rep/Human hybrids who will soon be ordering you around -- this song sounds like the hybrid's victory song to me -- i could write the story, but as my posts are by & large being ignored right now, i'm not willing to put all the time & energy into that

i think it's time for me to get another one of those bumper stickers that says GO LEMMINGS GO

[Jeffrey]

Posted by wynderer (here)

-i got to know one of the Rep/Human hybrids who will soon be ordering you around -- this song sounds like the hybrid's victory song to me -- i could write the story, but as my posts are by & large being ignored right now, i'm not willing to put all the time & energy into that

I can only speak for myself, so i may be in a minority of one - your posts are not being ignored.

I would very much appreciate if you would share that story.

[EDIT: I am not a minority of one!]

[Molope]

Im whith you about that i see a lot of people that doesnt want to hear any kind of bad news they live in their Super Duper Happy reality and they wont move from there but to know the truth sometimes you have to see and hear things that you might or almost surely you wont like.Its like that "truth" cant be always good news.These people are like "Out of sight, out of mind" at least they are happy...

[Jeffrey]

Jean-Luc has made a handy PDF document of Houman's thread material. I am currently still reading through all of it. So far, it has been very helpful in separating sand from sugar - regarding not only this thread but a myriad of other things as well.

Please, start to read this PDF; it even has a table of contents which makes navigating it much easier.

It is here: http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Horus-Ra...n_Parasite.pdf

Thanks

[Unified Serenity]

We are dealing with an enemy that is so vast, so pernicious and vile that we cannot truly fathom it. We face a race that is hell bent on ruling the world. They are the Tares of the parable of the Wheat and the Tares, and for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, you know we cannot uproot them for it will only hurt the Wheat. The Tares know this and count on it. They have gained control of all the governments of the world, the finances, the media, food, and laws. They are untouchable and they know it. To strike one down will only make them a martyr who was serving humanity. To do nothing only ensures further control. It is a nightmare and it is meant to bring us down to our deepest selves, our true being and decide whom we love and follow. Most of the world has been trained to hate the God of the bible. There have been decades, lo a century of anti-bible teaching.

We have been warned that in the last days the hearts will grow cold, the people will tell tales and seek truth from false prophets who tickle their itching ears. We have been told what till happen, the signs to look for, and the season it will happen, but we have been taught by man to no longer trust that information, and to seek our own path. Step outside of your beliefs and just look at the world, then look at what we were told would happen. Look at the alignment of kingdoms and principalities. Look at the wickedness in high places. It is all there for us to plainly see and yet we deny it for then we would have to consider the source of that information.

Welcome to the harvest. For those who hate the Elites, the Ptb, the Tares, you shall soon see them removed and not by the hand of man, but by divine intervention. Call God an alien if you want, he did come in a highly polished bronze ship called "amber" in Ezekiel. The truth is he (one in energy of masculine and feminine no sex just a way to express the being) has been watching and knowing our hearts. He cast asunder the middle wall of partisan within us and between us as individuals so that we are all called to be one in spirit with him. Many are called but few are chosen. Many will run to him in this final day and claim their love and he will say, "Get away from me, I never KNEW you". You say you seek truth.

"I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but by me".

and then we were told:

Joh 8:32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


Yeshua is the truth. If you know him and not just know about him, then you are free. Death has lost it's sting and there is no controlling you. You will live freely, speak freely for you do not fear man or any force, but have a true relationship and know the maker and lover of your soul. I intimately know that sorrow spoken of when he cried for Jerusalem for they would not listen. The gift is free, you do not become a slave anymore than you become a slave when you fall in love. You do what you do for your lover because of love. I am not there yet in unconditional love, but I feel God's love for each and everyone of you and me, and it humbles me beyond words. He is the rose of Sharon, and the balm of Gilead. He is able to make all things right, and while we look for saviors among men, we ignore the one already sent to our own shame and judgment. My spirit is in sackcloth and ashes as I cry bitter tears knowing how we hurt one another and the one who loved and created us in love. We will stand in judgement as prophesied. We will be a light shining upon a hill, but it will be a burning light of judgement. We have each earned our place and we will each stand on our own. My hope and prayer is that we walk in the true unconditional love of the Father and in that all men will know the truth and love one another equally.


See the symbolism in this Rose (it's there for those with eyes to see):

[CeltMan]

In the intervew about 2 days ago, conducted by Kimberley,-with John Kettler, he completely backs Drake, -as being totally authentic.

Here is the link to that interview, which IMO was one of the very best I have listened to-for verification ammount of data, etc.
AND, he promises to provide Proof-soon, of the existance of Reptiods & ufo's etc- by capturing & presenting at least One reptoid, & displaying it in a public place....cannt wait for that!!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/beloven...w-john-kettler

[NancyV]

Posted by wynderer (here)

this little ditty that Nancy V posted:

Our hero, our hero, claims a warrior’s heart
I tell you, I tell you, the Dragonborn comes
With a Voice wielding power of the ancient Nord art
Believe, believe, the Dragonborn comes
It’s an end to the evil, of all Skyrim’s foes
Beware, beware, the Dragonborn comes
For the darkness has passed, and the legend yet grows
You’ll know, You’ll know the Dragonborn’s come

-i got to know one of the Rep/Human hybrids who will soon be ordering you around -- this song sounds like the hybrid's victory song to me -- i could write the story, but as my posts are by & large being ignored right now, i'm not willing to put all the time & energy into that

i think it's time for me to get another one of those bumper stickers that says GO LEMMINGS GO

The song DragonBorn is actually about the ones who defeat the dragons who come to conquer, the DragonBorn are those born to fight the evil dragons.

[Jeffrey]

I have posted excerpts relating to a book by Arthur C. Clark in another thread already, so I will refrain from block quoting large sections of the webpage here and just offer the link (it is an overview of the book).

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/childhoodsend/themes.html

The book is called "Childhood's End" and I think some of it's underlying themes can be applied to this discussion. Feel free to check out the link and draw your own conclusions.

...

"It is the mark of an mature mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

Something to strive for I think.

[EC1000]

Posted by wynderer (here)
i figured out what bothers me about Fulford's & Drake's assertion that all the bad guy big bankers etc are going to be rounded up , jailed, & then we can begin our new Earth

this really is beginning to sound like a clever psy-op to me -- likely a good part of the 'alternative' community got all wrapped up in this -- probably lots of Drake & Fulford-Wilcock threads on other forums too

you could put every greedy & psychopathic Human behind bars [& sign every petition that comes down the pike] & it would make no difference to your future -- you Humans do not run or own your planet --

scrolling down thru the threads -- it's becoming apparent to me that the Human capacity for denial is quite a large capacity -- presumably a lot here are familiar w/David Icke & w/the Camelot interviewees -- & at some point you have come across the truth of the ET &/ OD presence here -- but i wouldn't know it from scanning the thread topics

i have seen this in people in my daily life -- it seems that Humans will go to great lengths to have happy warm feelings, & will immediately shut out any info that disturbs your warm fuzzy feelings -- i see this going on here, too [a disappointment -- but Humans are Humans wherever you go, i guess] -- i personally have always preferred learning & facing the truth even if it doesn't feel good -- & i figure if you want to change things, you'd better get to the heart, the root of the problem

if Humans were willing to learn & accept what is really happening -- a take-over of your planet by hostile [& very powerful] beings, then you'd finally learn that you are not alone in this Universe -- a blow to the idea that you are the Crown of Creation, true, but you'd also have a fighting chance of survival

[/I]

-i got to know one of the Rep/Human hybrids who will soon be ordering you around -- this song sounds like the hybrid's victory song to me -- i could write the story, but as my posts are by & large being ignored right now, i'm not willing to put all the time & energy into that

i think it's time for me to get another one of those bumper stickers that says GO LEMMINGS GO

I'm another who would like to hear your story. My wife has been ready the drake/ fullord/ wilcox/ dragon family stuff alot lately, telling me "drake says, they're going to do this, and they're going to do that and there will be mass arrest, etc" (of course, i'm paraphrasing here). And i say "sweetie, remember the aliens and the reptillians and their link to the government and illuminati and all that jazz?" She says, "um, yes". Then I say "well no one is going to be doing sh!t if those folks don't want it to happen".
we have variations of this conversation a couple times a month She's hot though, so i put up w/ it.

[Delight]

Posted by sdv (here)
A lot of this Drake stuff reminds me of an experience I had with a bipolar (highly intelligent) colleague. He was in the manic phase, sitting in a 24-hour coffee shop and writing notes in a notebook. We took turns to go and sit with him. He was still the same intelligent gentle man so there was nothing scary about him. What he was saying and writing sounded like genius but it was actually incoherent nonsense.

It's like watching a person construct a jigsaw puzzle with pieces from various pictures. here and there something recognisable seems to emerge, but the pieces can never be put together in a way to create one coherent picture (or even almost complete picture even) or even various pictures that relate to each other in a coherent way.

I have had many many encounters with the high of bipolar in family, friends and professionally. In each case there were fragments that just did not hold together in usefulness. Maybe there were flashes of brilliance but the whole picture of complete, capable, resolved and effective (and an ability to use the flashes even) was missing. This is an excellent description. In my leap from this too, I am thinking when we each are whole in our own puzzle, we have a what will be capable of use to create something of value.

But this is not the way we are asked to operate by any of these whistleblowers. We are asked to trust in some magna force to sweep the playing field. But just like with physical maladies, when you clear one symptom without addressing the cause, another symptom appears. I am not worried by that really as it is just part of a game.

Maybe the whole "cause" for everything is the game itself. This is not new thinking. But who is playing what when and where and how is an individual rite of passage to experience. What does it feel like when one lives as midwives of self birthing into a different relationship to reality? This means not thinking conceptually but actually doing this work? On the way to this shift, some minds fracture, some spirits quail and many who start off turn around. That is to me the way it should be because if it is about our own wholeness and our own maturity, we have to get the pieces, place them and use the picture ourselves. Then we have a second birth (not religious but metaphysical and translating into physical)

I actually received an email from a local friend about Drake's information. She was very excited by the hope that IF ascension is occurring that maybe now mass arrests and the end of tyranny would be delivered.

Over and over I keep going back to something. What about our own inner tyranny. When we have our own inner freedom and our own inner clarity? What does the world look like? If we have it, we will know we have it. No one can deliver it. That is what I see as the check mate. No opponent left on the board.

[the_vast_mystery]

You know I'd really like to ask this to everyone here, just as a thought exercise.

Let's suppose you do distrust this idea about a military/police intervention. How do you imagine the situation changing? I don't mean "I think about everyone getting along magically and they do" I mean what proven plan or steps do you have that will guarantee a change? Because it's all fine and dandy to talk about personal development, spiritual evolution and enlightenment but those concepts relate only to individual growth and do not address the greater reality around us which is surrounded by many people who do not care about such things and a minority even actively opposed to those things. How do you imagine the situation can change?

There are very real people, who very much believed absolutely they could fly, they very much jumped off of skyscrapers and very much died. Belief alone and faith alone do not guarantee any change in the reality around you or people who believed they could fly, dodge bullets and regrow limbs would and we'd be seeing them on the news because I can bet there'd be too many of them to cover up if it was really as simple as absolutely believing you could. We need to change the entire socioeconomic situation, we need to change governments, etc. We need to re-evaluate everything about how we live and we currently have hugely powerful vested interests in Government and Big Business that do not want that to happen and right now they are sole gatekeepers within our society to all resources and legitimate power.

How do you propose we change anything if the system will not abdicate any power and only grows worse? It poisons the water, it experiments on the population and treats them as commodities. Do you think these people will just stop one day and have a change of heart? I mean especially if they are managing this by using darker powers they are not going to stop until they are removed by force. Force, as sad as it is, is the only guaranteed method of making something happen in this reality. Ideally all we'd need is peaceful non-participation like MLK had said, but for that to work it requires numbers. The Civil Rights movement had to shut down entire cities in the south for weeks or months to make a point about segregation and they were dealing with far less entrenched money and central organization than we have now. Spreading awareness is good, spreading peace and love is good, but let's not mince words this is the same government that also used COINTELPRO to try and get MLK to commit suicide. They can and will resort to any tactic needed if they feel you are a threat and we can see that with how the FBI has basically been creating terrorism to say they're catching terrorists.

There is both an inner world and an outer world, ignoring either is a fool's errand as while they are inter-dependent they are also partly independent and ignoring the rules, closing your eyes, and praying will not make that Mack truck heading straight for you disappear anymore than it would for every other person who's been run over in the street. That said I'm personally finding Drake very suspect but I'd still cautiously welcome a change in government so long as it were more open and Democratic. More of what we really need though is some of this suppressed alternative energy technology. The biggest reason why we got such a big government were conflicts and management of natural resources, if we suddenly have the technology to be able to remove our resource dependency then we would no longer need a central manager for the resources of the world (or big corporations to make/distribute resources) since individuals could sustain themselves at little cost. In such a hypothetical it would be impossible for anyone to mis-use a huge deal of planetary resources except if on purpose. At least, supposing you believe what was said about some of the hidden technology that may be revealed.

We need a change, but if this is not the change we need then what is it? How will it come? Let's stop with these vague platitudes about love and get serious about the mechanics of it. Because if you're not going to start talking shop about the "How" part then you're going to get drowned out by those more than willing to. People will trust someone with a plan that seems plausible over someone who says "your misery is all in your head. No, you don't need food, water or shelter you 45 million American homeless, you just need to love yourself inside and that's it's own reward!"

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Vivek (here)
I have posted excerpts relating to a book by Arthur C. Clark in another thread already, so I will refrain from block quoting large sections of the webpage here and just offer the link (it is an overview of the book).

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/childhoodsend/themes.html

The book is called "Childhood's End" and I think some of it's underlying themes can be applied to this discussion. Feel free to check out the link and draw your own conclusions.

...

"It is the mark of an mature mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

Something to strive for I think.

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Posted by Vivek (here)
Jean-Luc has made a handy PDF document of Houman's thread material. I am currently still reading through all of it. So far, it has been very helpful in separating sand from sugar - regarding not only this thread but a myriad of other things as well.

Please, start to read this PDF; it even has a table of contents which makes navigating it much easier.

It is here: http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Horus-Ra...n_Parasite.pdf

Some excerpts from the latter:

So in my opinion, the Ra level of universal existence is the level of the so-called Archons, not the minor reptilians, greys or draconians. Ra is the level, which eats the conscious awareness, and we have to bypass it in order to merge into higher realms of existence. The more important thing to focus on is not the origin of Ra in its different forms, but to see the patterns of behavior this Ra has. It truly enslaves. Like seen in cult activity. Ra enjoys the essence of the egotistical uplift.“

Maarit emphatically stated, “The purpose the Horus-Ra energy force is not only to consume humans and other species as well–their inner core–but also destroy the purity of it. It wants people to forget the ultimate reality and connection to God. In every way this is true. And it goes with other races as well. Most of them are as lost as humans. Some are awakened like some humans are, too. That is why these New Age movements are so dangerous–they are a straight portal for these darker forces to manifest. They make people to compete who are the most spiritually gifted, most knowledgeable, who have more healing/psychic powers etc., and make the whole scam revolve around human ego, which becomes the source for the ego of the evil itself. So it’s no coincidence Jesus said: do not worship pictures/idols of god and one must leave the material behind in order to follow the route to God. The God is within. So that’s why there is so much ritual performances within the NWO network. The secretive “occult” energy makes the evil stronger, gives these people feeling of specialty and power. It corrupts the purity.”
...
I find that our tendency is to become distracted by the entertainment aspect of Ufology, rather than the spiritual-mental evolutionary implications of what befalls us with this alien interference. We love to dance in the distractions, but this diverts our own awareness regarding the power of our innate divinity. I believe the ancient Gnostics were well aware of this “Archontic Control” over humanity. (aka–”The Hypostasis of the Archons or Reality of the Rulers”, (II,4) Tractate in the Nag Hammadi Library) The Gnostics, in their wisdom they tell of what the signature of the Archons is: envy. This was the key human failing that makes us more vulnerable to their intrusion. But they did not leave us without hope for a solution. If we take on the protection of the Light, and rid ourselves of jealousy, then we enter the bridal chamber. (Lash’s Alien Dreaming article, excerpt from quote regarding Dialogue of the Savior, NHC III, 5 (85)

Could the humans involved with the Satanic New World Order be hosted by this same black shadow Horus-Ra energy? Is this what the Archontic influence truly is—and what the ancient Gnostics warned us about?

It is clear that some humans on this planet are colluding with certain species of aliens to oppress and experiment with humanity. We may think that the physical aspects of abductions are of the only real importance, but if we truly can grasp the reality of quantum physics, the nature of our own consciousness and potential realization of divinity, so much more is at stake. We cannot deny the importance of our own spirituality, and the freedom of our souls."

I figure there will always be humans to feed off of for these beings as long as we do not wake up or cling to beliefs and behaviors which make us vulnerable to this type of manipulation. Personally, I think waking up can take years or perhaps lifetimes.

It takes alot of courage and personal responsibility to deal with this level of spiritual warfare. It has taken me decades of research, painful experiences, counseling and meditation practice to start becoming more aware. Lots of healing work and facing fears, and rejection. But I’ve met some wonderful people along the way and it has been worth it. Awareness is not always pleasant and can be shocking, not all love and light bliss so to speak!

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"We have to step out of the victimized state of mind and get rid of the fear. This is the only way to get the respect of these creatures and develop a communication of some sort. Whining and unnecessary complaining are the dead end, then we start to dig our own psychological and physical grave for sure. Objectivity and courage is needed even to try to understand a different kind of intelligence and technology. This is something we are not able to do. The researchers who only feed the fear instead of objectivity are no better than the New Age people who are proclaiming easy ascension and waiting for spiritual enlightenment–even while being roasted in the oven."

What are the ARCHONS?

The Hypostasis of the Archons describes a further development that follows the initial emergence of the foetal Archontic entities... A close reading reveals a crucial detail: after the initial formation of the embryonic Archon types, a second variant of "shadow body" arises, with distinct characteristics of its own. The Hypostasis of the Archons describes it as "an arrogant beast resembling a lion," but this creature is also described (in another cosmological text, the Apocryphon of John 10: 5) as "a serpentine body (drakon) with a lion-like face." Thus there are two distinct types of Archons: a foetal or embryonic type, and a drakonic or reptilian type

Weidner: To begin with, I would draw attention to two articles on your site: The Global Coup d'Etat and the one about ownership of the world. The Queen of England owns one sixth of the non-ocean surface of the world; and keep that in mind as we go into the Archon subject. The Archons were whispered about in texts after the burning of the library at Alexandra with some mention of mysterious beings called Archons. But the powers that be spent 1,300 years cleaning up the records and had written out the Archons from our history. In 1947, texts were found in clay jars in Nag Hammadi in Egypt and, on these texts was a story of what the Nag Hammadi people, 2,000 years ago, thought the world was about.

The reason the Nag Hammadi texts, which date back 2,100 years (100 BC), are so important is that no-one has been able to put a spin on it [the texts have not been altered, destroyed or omitted as in the Bible], no-one has been able to distort or destroy them which is what they’d really like to do [to keep the information and knowledge from the masses]. Luckily, they survived, were successfully translated and when many people read them, they found a clear and defined discussion of what these Archons are. The texts had been buried in a deep cave in Egypt, in order to protect the most important information that they had.

Gnostics preached that there was an invasion that occurred about 3,600 BC and, about 1,600 years before the Nag Hammadi texts were buried, they wrote that this invasion was like a virus and, in fact, they were hard pressed to describe it. The beings that were invading were called Archons. These Archons had the ability to duplicate reality, to fool us. They were jealous of us because we have an essence of some kind, a soul, that they don’t possess, and the Nag Hammadi texts describe the Archons. One looks like a reptile and the other looks like an unformed baby or a foetus. It is partially living and partially non-living and has grey skin and dark, unmoving eyes. The Archons are duplicating reality so that when we buy into it, when we come to believe that the duplicated, false state reality is the real reality - then they become the victors.

I found this fascinating insight in the classic book "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu which was interpreted and translated by General Samuel B. Griffith USMC Retired.
"All warfare is based on deception. A skilled general must be master of the complimentary arts of simulation and dissimulation; while creating shapes to confuse and delude the enemy, he conceals his true dispositions and ultimate intent. When capable he feigns incapacity; when near he makes it appear that he is far away; when far away, that he is near. Moving as intangibly as a ghost in the starlight, he is obscure, inaudible. His primary target is the mind of the opposing commander; the victorious situation, a product of his creative imagination. Sun Tzu realized that an indispensable preliminary to battle was to attack the mind of the enemy."

This is the name of the game - distortion of reality by means of manipulating Truth using deception and confusion as a tactics. Secret societies, mainstream media, hollywood, "reality" television, public education, disinformation campaigns (in the alternative community as well) and the list goes on...

The Archons thrive on fear and error.

The Gnostics described the Chief Archon, Yaldaboath, as insane.

Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

That's what I took away from it anyway.

Here read it for yourself:

Gnostics were insistent on the identification of Yaldabaoth with Yahweh or Jehovah, the tribal god of the Hebrews. This deity is not only blind, but witless and insane (Hypostasis of the Archons 89: 24-25). To Gnostics insanity is not so much unsoundness of mind as the consequence of failure to correct mental errors. The mentality of the Archons "cannot be rectified," and, what's worse, "the archontic nature is not capable of development." (Gilhus, The Nature of the Archons, p. 40) Due to the manner of their generation, Archons have no ennoia, no innate intentionality.

The drakonic Archon is said to be blind (Coptic bille), so he does not see either the Pleroma or Sophia. "Blindness of the spiritual world characterizes the Archons." (Gilhus, p. 17). He is called Samael and Saklas. Samael is Hebrew and Saklas is Aramaic for "blind one." Understanding the blindness of the Archons is crucially important to our detection of how they can affect humanity.

The exact genesis of the Archons is laid out in the PDF and in Houman's Thread, it goes into analytical detail regarding the Archons as they are presented in the Nag Hammadi codices. I'd also recommend this link:

http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpre...esis-i-part-1/

It's buried in the PDF, and it explains the relationship between humanity and these parasitic aliens.

I found this quote to be good advice too:

once we awaken to the reality of being in “enemy occupied territory” we need assistance in reclaiming our own waters of life. One point I’d like to get across is that today, many of our own people– even believers—have been born into occupied territory. Because the enemy and his pawns have exchanged the truth for a lie for such a long time, the people in occupied territory do not even know their true history or the state of bondage they are in.

I think there are many spiritual and psychological truths that can be extrapolated from this (about fear, denial, control, freedom), but this isn't really the thread for that, so I digress. Back to topic.

I really would like to expound on everything and draw a few more connections myself as I feel it relates to this thread and the events as of late, but I haven't yet digested the material in it's entirety.

I would welcome Houman's opinions on what going on here, and the material in this thread (dragon bloodlines, ascension, new-age hype, and the events surrounding 2012).

I should note that some of this material (from the PDF) could be considered channeled, but it is merely based on abduction accounts, remote viewing and things of that nature. Some may feel that there is no discrepancy between the two sources, but that isn't really my call to make (I voiced my concerns about it in a previous post) - I'm just trying to piece the infromation together as it relates to the context of what we are looking at here. Non-ordinary reason comes to mind

In the same vein, the "Allies of Humanity" material was channeled and I think it delivers an excellent message.

As always though, sand and sugar.



It's also mind-blowing to me how much of Arthur C. Clarke's book (mentioned in the first quote) parallels/overlays a lot of this stuff.


UPDATE: I think there is a connection (a neutral one for now) to be found between the origins of Rex Deus, Egypt, and Horus-Ra/Archonic influence. I have read through so much information in the last several days - my brain is telling me something connects somehow with all of that, but I'm going to have to dig it up again.

[Unified Serenity]

As always, excellent information Vivek. I also am of the understanding that the Archons have not mastered living in 3d and thus are jealous of us for being able to do this as well as our souls which empower us in ways they can never achieve and is why they seek to destroy our spiritual communication with the divine by killing the potential of the Pineal gland. I have also come to understand that fluoride is a prime component of that plan to help calcify the gland and that nicotine inhibits that from occurring, and thus now I know why they had an all out attack on smoking and all nicotine products. I'm not saying smoking is great, but I have come to realize that a great number of truth seekers and those I find myself aligning with do smoke. I smoke and enjoy it. I do not smoke normal cigarettes as they really screw up my mind, but more basic tobacco.

[Chester]

Posted by sdv (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
This is an article Drake wrote entitled, "New Math, New Understanding".

http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/NF/newbailymath.html

Here is an excerpt:
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The whole article is a little too technical for me, I wouldn't be good a judging the validity of the math/physics/numerology of it, but feel free to click the link and read it for yourself.

I'm a math graduate. This is 100% nonsense.

A lot of this Drake stuff reminds me of an experience I had with a bipolar (highly intelligent) colleague. He was in the manic phase, sitting in a 24-hour coffee shop and writing notes in a notebook. We took turns to go and sit with him. He was still the same intelligent gentle man so there was nothing scary about him. What he was saying and writing sounded like genius but it was actually incoherent nonsense.

It's like watching a person construct a jigsaw puzzle with pieces from various pictures. here and there something recognisable seems to emerge, but the pieces can never be put together in a way to create one coherent picture (or even almost complete picture even) or even various pictures that relate to each other in a coherent way.

sdv - I think you are on the right track here. He may have achieved states where he experienced quantum synchronicity. If he was/is susceptible to messianic proclivities and had experienced semi controlled psychotic states, what can happen is one can achieve a state where the real/physical world actually links up with the mind in a way one believes they are in a full blown, direct communication with what they believe is God or Great Spirit or whatever they can imagine is the supreme being. That feeds the messianic complex like pouring gas on a fire. I say this based on the last several days research of the subject - the Archons - and the massive amount of materials available in this thread - and experiences I have had since I was 6 years old.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ew-with-Maarit

Notice Ra is involved here which dovetails into Ra and the Law of One material which David Wilcock seems to take as gospel. I always had concerns about "channeled" material as I always felt true enlightenment can only be found on an individual basis and only found within - but what do I know as just a week ago I was a die hard believer in the Plan (a plan that based on what I know now, would be only negative anyway - apologies I digressed).

If there is something to the influence of these "archonic beings" - one of their primary games being the messiah game - then perhaps not only is Drake and Wilcock and others being played by real world physical beings, but they are possibly under influence of these archonic beings.

I know what I am posting here may come as a surprise to anyone who has read my posts in the last few weeks, but sometimes just a few pieces falling into place can change an entire picture (and perhaps free one from similar influences as a side benefit).

I believe I have been wrong about Drake and wrong that the Plan could even happen.

I hope my honesty is appreciated and I hope my apology for my "drum beating" will be accepted.

justonefool who may have perhaps wised up

EDIT May 7th, 2012: - My switch on Drake and the Plan lasted a brief 48 hour period - this is documented in my thread -

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...d-and-The-Plan

As of Monday April 30th, I was a Drake "drum beater" again - do note my concern as to how we handle those that might be arrested.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Notice Ra is involved here which dovetails into Ra and the Law of One material which David Wilcock seems to take as gospel.

Thanks,

I find this curious as well considering what Houman has brought to the table.

[Delight]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
How do you propose we change anything if the system will not abdicate any power and only grows worse? It poisons the water, it experiments on the population and treats them as commodities. Do you think these people will just stop one day and have a change of heart? I mean especially if they are managing this by using darker powers they are not going to stop until they are removed by force. Force, as sad as it is, is the only guaranteed method of making something happen in this reality. Ideally all we'd need is peaceful non-participation like MLK had said, but for that to work it requires numbers. The Civil Rights movement had to shut down entire cities in the south for weeks or months to make a point about segregation and they were dealing with far less entrenched money and central organization than we have now. Spreading awareness is good, spreading peace and love is good, but let's not mince words this is the same government that also used COINTELPRO to try and get MLK to commit suicide. They can and will resort to any tactic needed if they feel you are a threat and we can see that with how the FBI has basically been creating terrorism to say they're catching terrorists."

I hear you.
I have a personal experience to relate that just because something that "looks good" is implemented, it will fail when one does not address the "inner tyrant" and the "inner serf". When people do something for the same egoistically focused reasons as the present "power", the same dynamics occur. Being a serf is egoistic as well as being a tyrant.

A "reformer" in my community started an organization. She is an idealistic hard working person who believes in doing good. She also believes there should be strong leadership, that making decisions that are NOT based on group consensus are better as discussion and agreement "take too much effort". She has strong loyalty but if you get on her "bad side"...grudges persist. She enjoys her power in controlling in this small way. She will be sarcastic and belittle people in public. She does not understand that the metaphysics precedes manifestation and that as we are, we experience reality. Many others were just "fine" with this set up. Some hoped she would change if they tried hard enough to change "her".

She had an inspiration to feed people. She gathered the small group attracted to the issue. The group grew organic vegies and raised money for the local food bank. The group depended on the "nonprofit status" of another group running a shelter and food bank. The people involved worked really hard and a reputation formed that this group is GREAT and money rolled in. All along the people involved were somewhat stymied because looking at a vision of the future was not appreciated. Severral people came and left silently because they had experienced her wrath when they "spoke out". No one could change "her".

There was an in crowd that made the decisions. One decision was neglect of the bigger picture despite advice. She felt she "knew" best and she trusted she would get her way. But then one day, because of her beingness, she attracted betrayal. The funds raised by the group were "legitimately" taken and used by the larger organization. Because this small group had no status on its own and because it had suited her to control things as she did, the money was owned by the larger umbrella.

Even when this occurred, she did not want to lay the facts out on the table for the group to see. She wanted to just pretend NOW the group was ready to become its own nonprofit and she would slide by the facing up to this error she had made (in not listening to others for one thing, giving up her control with formality). Many in the group felt their efforts had been wasted. They felt disillusioned and left. The group now struggles and looks to be almost dead.

In order to actually create new structures that do not continue everything just as it looks now, it has to be acknowledged that people and their attitudes, beliefs, willingness to be "shushed", willingness to cut corners, willingness to be "controlled" are all part of the patterns that repeat. Things arise and fall out of substance that is only the externalizing of the reality of states of being.

So, one wants to change "something" and make it last. Beyond brief flashes of brilliant inspiration and a shorter or longer existence, can anything last?

One has to go back to the world behind the eyelids to know where "reality" begins. Plenty of people participated in the escapade that failed to live up to a "hope". Everyone in it who participated received something: a new friendship, a confrontation, a disappointment that led to greater wisdom, a sense of self-empowerment from speaking truth to "power", a sense of being of use? But the basis of the community exercise was replaying the old "small community" program of fiefdoms. Everything changes and nothing changes until people change. That is perhaps the only "lasting" aspect. If one cannot see yet how to make a new world "real" is by changing the inner state, one will just keep being disappointed by "reality".

I agree that we can't wait until the world is made perfect to do "anything". We will have to see the world differently however than we have been to make peace with its presence. It is the shadow of things unseen. We are the light casting shadows and that makes the real world the spiritual one.