The Hybrids & Clones Amongst Us

[Space_Ace]

Very interesting thread, got some questions.

1. Are all grays, dracos and reps "service to self"? What about their hybrids?
2. To everyone in this thread, do you consider ETs a belief or an actual fact? When will we see disclosure, this year?
3. How do ETs shape shift and do they still look human or like an animal?
4. Seems like the standard for "beauty" is a tall, somewhat anorexic model, but I would imagine most men like shorter, curvy women?
5. I thought that the positive ETs have removed all negative ETs a few years ago and destroyed their bunkers in 2011?
6. What are your predictions for the rest of this year(mass arrests, NESARA, disclosure, ascension), will it be as glorious as the Mayans predict?

[wynderer]

Space_Ace -- if you don't know that ETs are real & here, i'm not interested in the rest of your questions

i don't make 'predictions' -- if i have a dream or vision of the future, i pay attention to it but don't focus on it

nice little dig about the 'anorexic-- & yes, some men do like more flesh on their women -- i celebrate the love & physical attraction that un-messed with real Humans have for one another

Posted by Space_Ace (here)
Very interesting thread, got some questions.

1. Are all grays, dracos and reps "service to self"? What about their hybrids?
2. To everyone in this thread, do you consider ETs a belief or an actual fact? When will we see disclosure, this year?
3. How do ETs shape shift and do they still look human or like an animal?
4. Seems like the standard for "beauty" is a tall, somewhat anorexic model, but I would imagine most men like shorter, curvy women?
5. I thought that the positive ETs have removed all negative ETs a few years ago and destroyed their bunkers in 2011?
6. What are your predictions for the rest of this year(mass arrests, NESARA, disclosure, ascension), will it be as glorious as the Mayans predict?

[Heather2017]

Hi Wyn. May I ask for your thoughts about the idea that human/reptilian hybrids were created to help a reptilian race that had become alienated from God? Hybridization allows this reptilian race to incarnate into beings that can feel and reconnect with soul. Unfortunately most members of this race do not want to rehabilitated. They hate the Kryst energy.

Thank you for your thought provoking posts.

Love,
Heather

[Heather2017]

Posted by Cilka (here)
...And you guys you have to realize that the chances of any of us being a hybrid is close to a zero chance. Most of these hybrid critters hold very important positions in politics, in finances, military etc. and they don't waste their time chatting in forums such as this one. They have very important roles to play, and very important decisions and plans to make, like 'how to effectively destroy this naive human civilization so that they can finally take over this planet asap'.

I respectfully disagree.

[wynderer]

Hi Heather -- this is another lie, imo -- the Greys use it also -- my understanding is that the Reptilians have quite a high opinion of themselves re their place in the Universe -- they respect & honor good warrior skills & intelligence -- also they are quite proud of their looks -- one might say vain

but the connection to the Creator is not a part of their interests -- they like this whole war & conquest deal they have going on

wyn

Posted by Heather2012 (here)
Hi Wyn. May I ask for your thoughts about the idea that human/reptilian hybrids were created to help a reptilian race that had become alienated from God? Hybridization allows this reptilian race to incarnate into beings that can feel and reconnect with soul. Unfortunately most members of this race do not want to rehabilitated. They hate the Kryst energy.

Thank you for your thought provoking posts.

Love,
Heather

[Heather2017]

Couldn't both be true? What you've said is consistent with not seeing the need for rehabilitation. Agree that connection to Creator is not part of their interests.

Honestly you seem to be an example of a successful hybrid who has good qualities of both reptilians and humans...

[wynderer]

Posted by Cilka (here)
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Wynderer: Wynderer, are hybrids also considered narcissists? The description of the hybrids sounded like they should also be described as having a self-centered personality. Thankfully I am not a hybrid. And you guys you have to realize that the chances of any of us being a hybrid is close to a zero chance. Most of these hybrid critters hold very important positions in politics, in finances, military etc. and they don't waste their time chatting in forums such as this one. They have very important roles to play, and very important decisions and plans to make, like 'how to effectively destroy this naive human civilization so that they can finally take over this planet asap'.

wow -- you guys are good -- now i'm an anorexic narcissist pretending to be a hybrid so i can impress Avalon members

guess i should get a life, huh?

[Space_Ace]

Posted by wynderer (here)
Space_Ace -- if you don't know that ETs are real & here, i'm not interested in the rest of your questions
i don't make 'predictions' -- if i have a dream or vision of the future, i pay attention to it but don't focus on it
nice little dig about the 'anorexic-- & yes, some men do like more flesh on their women -- i celebrate the love & physical attraction that un-messed with real Humans have for one another

I have never seen any UFOs, signs nor hard evidence of ETs personally, but I remain open minded to the belief of ETs and want to learn as much as I can because I believe in the possibility of disclosure, perhaps even this year. We have been hearing about ETs disclosing themselves for decades by now. Most people, including my parents flat out dismiss ETs and believe we are alone in the universe. Theres billions of stars and planets in our galaxy alone so it's extremely likely that there's life out there in our galaxy and in virtually every other galaxy too.

There's a controversy surrounding the anorectic models and how they are a bad influence on young women who strive to be that anorexic look. A normal BMI should be 20 to 27.5 or so, not as low as 18.5 like the corrupt medical establishment claims. As for messed up humans, 95% are still brainwashed and close minded. I am doing my best to wake myself more and more and learning all I can about the possibility of the big four: mass arrests, prosperity funds, disclosure, ascension. Many people, even on this forum think either nothing will happen or we are all doomed by end of this year.

[Cilka]

Posted by wynderer (here)

Posted by Cilka (here)
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Wynderer: Wynderer, are hybrids also considered narcissists? The description of the hybrids sounded like they should also be described as having a self-centered personality. Thankfully I am not a hybrid. And you guys you have to realize that the chances of any of us being a hybrid is close to a zero chance. Most of these hybrid critters hold very important positions in politics, in finances, military etc. and they don't waste their time chatting in forums such as this one. They have very important roles to play, and very important decisions and plans to make, like 'how to effectively destroy this naive human civilization so that they can finally take over this planet asap'.

wow -- you guys are good -- now i'm an anorexic narcissist pretending to be a hybrid so i can impress Avalon members

guess i should get a life, huh?

It's just a question, it was not meant to put down anyone. I think that the only way anyone can find out if they are a hybrid, is with a DNA test, but then you would also have to know what to look for in this test. The human mind is constantly trying to make sense of one's reality here in 3D world, and it can be quite creative in doing so. Also, the human mind wants to naturally feel more special, so it comes up with all kinds of stories, but no proof. Even David Wilcock wants to feel more special, so he came up with the idea that he is a reincarnated Edgar Cayce; he has no proof that he is Edgar but people believe him.

And Wynderer, the best way to learn is to have as many people say to you that 'maybe just maybe you could be wrong because ........'. If everyone agreed with you NONE OF US WOULD LEARN ANYTHING. It's just a game we all play in this reality.

[GoodETxSG]

If a person only experiences ONLY two different sides or teams they only know of these two teams... There are a lot of "Free Agents" and totally random groups and species out there that are not aligned to the masters of our arm of the Galaxy. They run the gammett of good and evil or sociopathic (Emotionally) by OUR standards. I just want it to be clear that there are MANY MANY more beings out there. They visit but not in force and their "Homes" and Military Resources (If they even have them) are far far away. Some are here on fact finding missions and others are just popping from star gate to star gate exploring out curiosity and dealing with the wonders and dangers as they go. PLEASE try not to put limitations on what is out there and what is visiting here. The Military doesn't pay much mind to the ones that visit and do not have a stake in our destinies or a flag planted anywhere in our realm. Just a thought, these other beings are not deceptions or lies... delusions to take our eye off of the battle... they are just passing through and stop by to check things out. Some leave AI probes and move on others just move on. There are as many different reactions to what is going on here as there are beings teaming the local Galaxy and beyond. Let’s not try to put EVERYTHING in a box and jumble it all together. I hope that makes sense. There are many visitors here for different reasons and some of them have totally agreed to be like Switzerland and others just do their own thing not making any agreements and pay no attention to other beings that we find powerful and scary... they treat them like annoying insects like many of the beings and the breakaway societies do to us.

[Flash]

Wynderer, please go on, I am not comenting but I am reading.

[wynderer]

FYI, when i look back at my life, mostly i see how frequently i have been a complete dumbass -- latest DA move was attempting to communicate thru this forum -- any forum

i have tried to write only from my personal experiences

i have shared a lot tho i am a very private person

what a loony bin planet

[Rantaak]

Looks like only the bad ones get the press.

For the good ones must perform their work in obscurity.

As such, mildly illumined folk such as yourselves continue to argue about something you know so little about.

Every human being is a hybrid.

[wynderer]

another good one from Zebra

Please, if you are triggered by this material, you feel negative reactions bubbling up and the need to express annihilation energy, please take a breath and ask yourself why?

what the h is 'annihilation energy'? --

like i said, this is getting very tiresome -- no support from any mods or admin tho i requested help quite some time ago

[wynderer]

a clipped article i found on Duncan O'Finioan's blog --

http://duncanofinioan.wordpress.com/

Cosmic Detox and the Crumbling Matrix
Wednesday, April 25th, 2012
by Zen Gardner

Having any weird experiences lately? Good and bad? It appears these vibrational changes and the accompanying wake up are having some freaky consequences. Is the matrix breaking up and releasing its captive energies?

It’s nothing to fear.

Strange things are going to abound as we move into this next phase. Don’t be alarmed, but as the matrix starts to crack it will yield up caged energies of all types, again good and bad. It really is nothing to worry about but if you’re prone to fear it would be helpful to be near stronger people and/or spend extra time reading and watching uplifting information.

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Weird Stuff
The spiritual is very much the same. Those new to this may not have much background in the existence of spiritual energies, influences and entities. They’re real but nothing to fear unless you’re carelessly fooling around with them. So be careful. Some have been loosed and are looking for homes.

The realm of occult divination can be dangerous without a thorough background in the occult sciences and a strong, conscious hand on the controls.

Don’t look for it, but don’t be surprised if weird stuff becomes more frequent, like sensing entities around you or strange experiences. It’s just stuff getting released. The good energy far outweighs the negative so stay in that lit vibrational stream if that type of awareness comes.

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Warning: More Signs in Every Day Life
Meanwhile, things are getting stranger in the every day world. Are you noticing people staggering around in parking lots looking for their cars or the shop entrance…just barely making it? There’s a serious degradation of life going on and so slowly no one seems to notice.

Driving continues to get wilder as people continue to grow more nervous. Again, there will be increased irrational, erratic behavior so beware. It won’t make any sense and you may want to “steer clear” of anything giving off that signal, including people acting strangely.

Reason won’t be a recourse.

You might have read about the woman in Denver Airport who stripped down to nothing the other day, or the businessman who started cutting himself saying “they’re coming for me”, similar to the pilot that lost it with a similar mantra, freaking out his passengers who then subdued him.

It’s a cumulative effect that’s reaching a critical point with people. Just be aware of these possibilities is all I’m saying so you won’t be taken by surprise.

That’s just practical advice, and maybe it will help you keep an objective, conscious viewpoint instead of getting sucked into the confusion drama. It’s sure helping me keep a lookout.


Conclusion
Fear not, but pay attention. See things for what they are. The effects will be clear.

The lines dividing and defining realms of perception are going to be blurred and fading in and out.

My advice…be circumspect. A lot will be revealed and some of it will be pretty disconcerting. No worries when you keep it in perspective.

Be vigilant and proactive.

Much love,

Zen

www.zengardner.com

[wynderer]

i see what Zen Gardner writes about happening in the 3D [ non-virtual ] world -- lots of irrational behaviour, & people saying senseless non-sequitors in the middle of a conversation & apparently not even knowing they are doing it

i thought i'd find more awake & aware people here -- i have found some , & some good & caring people too

but also that bizarre behaviour, here on the forum as in the 'real' world

i did come to Avalon to try to wake more people up re the threat -- as i see it, i did my best -- but it's not worth the hassle & the aggravation -- i'm losing interest in forums --Avalon is the best in terms of fewer nasty people -- but all the info here i can find myself on the net -- i also don't care for forums where the admin & mods sit watching w/o interacting

this is a relief for me -- & i can thank Avalon -- to be finally freed of the feeling that i HAVE to wake them up -- waking up to the fact that most likely you are going to be wiped out as a species, & those of you still here will no longer be recognizably Human

it's in the Creator's hands --

[doodah]

Advice from a Hobbit: Compassion, but not stupidity!

For many years I was very angry with people who refused to wake up. Then at some point I just stopped being angry. I remembered some of my own physical sleep experiences where I STRUGGLED to wake up - physically, to literally open my eyes. This has not happened to me for a while now, but there were many episodes when I KNEW I was trying to get my body to wake up but it wouldn't. It was like trying to lift my arm out of goo, or tar, or some heavy substance. These struggles went on for what seemed like a long time, each time - 5 minutes or more. Sometimes I would give up and fall back to sleep, other times I would persist in the struggle until I WRENCHED myself awake.

Given how hard that was, and taking it symbolically, I have given up thinking I "need to wake them up" and now just look upon the Sheeple with compassion. I know they're not going to do things that would be helpful in this fight. They don't have the awareness and they don't have the guts. They're not going to file their taxes with a statement that they're filing "Under Duress" [we're ALL under duress re taxes - we're all under threat of being put in jail]; they're not going to refuse to give 50% of their taxes to the military which just keeps developing ever more horrendous weapons; they're not going to make a fuss. They're not going to stand a line against these huge forces.

I don't even know what the awakened ones among us can really do! If "holding the light" in a spiritual sense is really making a difference, then some of us are doing that, and doing it in some really tough places. Other than that, Wynderer, what can we do?

I can think of lots of things, actions -- none of them destructive or harmful -- that would make a HUGE impact on the Sheeple and really shake them up, but I don't believe any of that is going to happen. All I know is that the Mayan Calendar does not end in destruction, and of all the myths, I choose that one. I choose Timeline One in all my actions, where *something happens* and we become free. What that is, I don't know.

At least each of us can choose to go out with a free soul. [not saying it's easy, but it can be done]

[delfine]

Posted by wynderer (here)
i see what Zen Gardner writes about happening in the 3D [ non-virtual ] world -- lots of irrational behaviour, & people saying senseless non-sequitors in the middle of a conversation & apparently not even knowing they are doing it

i thought i'd find more awake & aware people here -- i have found some , & some good & caring people too

but also that bizarre behaviour, here on the forum as in the 'real' world

i did come to Avalon to try to wake more people up re the threat -- as i see it, i did my best -- but it's not worth the hassle & the aggravation -- i'm losing interest in forums --Avalon is the best in terms of fewer nasty people -- but all the info here i can find myself on the net -- i also don't care for forums where the admin & mods sit watching w/o interacting

this is a relief for me -- & i can thank Avalon -- to be finally freed of the feeling that i HAVE to wake them up -- waking up to the fact that most likely you are going to be wiped out as a species, & those of you still here will no longer be recognizably Human

it's in the Creator's hands --

Wynderer I understand why you feel like that. It´s tempting to not give a damn anymore due to the ingratitude, negativity and general imbecility. But this is how it is. We cannot afford to let ourselves be disappointed. Those who have something valuable to contribute must go in spite of it all. I mean what´s the alternative? This is our big challenge to find a spirit of community and cooperation, and not let ourselves get discouraged by petty disagreements/misunderstandings. If we don´t realise the importance of that now, when will we?

There are people here who appreciate your thread, kindly focus on that instead of the random negativity...

[wynderer]

thanks for reminding me that it all comes down to Love -- like the Tina Turner song from Mad Max --'Love & compassion ... their day is coming ...'

you Hobbits are pretty durn smart! (:

Posted by doodah (here)
Advice from a Hobbit: Compassion, but not stupidity!

For many years I was very angry with people who refused to wake up. Then at some point I just stopped being angry. I remembered some of my own physical sleep experiences where I STRUGGLED to wake up - physically, to literally open my eyes. This has not happened to me for a while now, but there were many episodes when I KNEW I was trying to get my body to wake up but it wouldn't. It was like trying to lift my arm out of goo, or tar, or some heavy substance. These struggles went on for what seemed like a long time, each time - 5 minutes or more. Sometimes I would give up and fall back to sleep, other times I would persist in the struggle until I WRENCHED myself awake.

Given how hard that was, and taking it symbolically, I have given up thinking I "need to wake them up" and now just look upon the Sheeple with compassion. I know they're not going to do things that would be helpful in this fight. They don't have the awareness and they don't have the guts. They're not going to file their taxes with a statement that they're filing "Under Duress" [we're ALL under duress re taxes - we're all under threat of being put in jail]; they're not going to refuse to give 50% of their taxes to the military which just keeps developing ever more horrendous weapons; they're not going to make a fuss. They're not going to stand a line against these huge forces.

I don't even know what the awakened ones among us can really do! If "holding the light" in a spiritual sense is really making a difference, then some of us are doing that, and doing it in some really tough places. Other than that, Wynderer, what can we do?

I can think of lots of things, actions, that would make a HUGE impact on the Sheeple and really shake them up, but I don't believe any of that is going to happen. All I know is that the Mayan Calendar does not end in destruction, and of all the myths, I choose that one. I choose Timeline One in all my actions, where *something happens* and we become free. What that is, I don't know.

At least each of us can choose to go out with a free soul. [not saying it's easy, but it can be done]

[wynderer]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=F1FPK5-Rm38