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    Thanks Justoneman, I made another request. But you do realize if we can't get it now, we are never going to know what it says. If you get it for free and I can get it for free, why can't you PM it to some of us? I understand you not wanting to post publicly here and I agree. But if you PM it to us what they sent you for free and would send it to me or anyone else for free, what is wrong with that?

    It is the only way that those of us who wish to respond to what you found and not just your feelings about it can do so properly.

    thanks for responding though,
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    Yes I did notice this Stan.

    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
    Speaking of Bill...why doesn't he 'drop in' to his own website much anymore...I rarely see a new post of his, and rarely see him on the board,
    Is he no longer participating here ? I miss his input !
    haven't you noticed that he comes in from time to time and delivers an opinion based on nothing but his hunches and takes off like the wind back to Equador.


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    I appreciate the post, I am going to tip toe through these threads for a little while with some of the heated responses from some reactionary minds that I have seen lately.

    There are a lot of brave people here who are willing to put themselves out there. I hope they receive the respect they deserve and that people can disagree without being so personal and vicious and/or thin skinned.

    This is a great site and I hope we can avoid the moral decay that some of the other sites have suffered from... like an earlier mentioned site ATS. I love you all. "Can't we all just get along" Sorry, had to borrow that...

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    I wouldn't call you a traitor. My personal views still favor Drake's credibility but it's good to have an open mind, even if the results might be disappointing. I will research the links and information you provided, thanks for putting it up.
    I honor the divinity within you.

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    but on building the new....
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    I got the mailing that Justoneman is referring to. I am going to PM the pertinent part to whoever asks me. For now I am PMing to my friends, in case they want to take a look and we can comment on what it actually says.

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    If we do not question what is before us... well, we are just not questioning.

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    I think we are doing pretty good on this thread so far...I haven't seen anyone not respect Justoneman even if they disagree or whatever. So I think we are doing really well.

    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    I appreciate the post, I am going to tip toe through these threads for a little while with some of the heated responses from some reactionary minds that I have seen lately.

    There are a lot of brave people here who are willing to put themselves out there. I hope they receive the respect they deserve and that people can disagree without being so personal and vicious and/or thin skinned.

    This is a great site and I hope we can avoid the moral decay that some of the other sites have suffered from... like an earlier mentioned site ATS. I love you all. "Can't we all just get along" Sorry, had to borrow that...

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

    Honestly I'm with you. I'd absolutely love nothing better than to set it all down, and let someone else clean my house. Who wouldn't.

    That's how not how we get freedom. We will get equally dependent on the house cleaners.
    Hello 9eagle9.

    Allow me to offer another perspective, using those ideas as a starting point.

    I would agree if sentient beings had a real chance to clean their own house, knew how, and refused. Even if I (and my family) were among them, I would feel that our group lesson/karma was unlearned/unpaid.

    Let me set this scene:

    Hundreds of bleak, gaunt, starving people within the confines of a tall fence, with razor wire above. A prison camp. Resources are not really scarce, (guards and jailers are well fed, healthy, and well-equipped), but the keepers allocate resources to the prisoners as if scarcity was true. Deep despair from years of brainwashing, failed attempts to escape is rampant. A guy who appears to be a preacher or shaman, or maybe insane, imprisoned as well, walks among the prisoners, calmly, confidently, telling them - each of them - that they have the power to transcend the cage. They can break free simply by metaphysically refusing to be bound.

    The starving prisoners shrug, some are annoyed and move away. They have heard this before, they are tired of hearing it. A few have listened, but no one has escaped. The hunger is deep, immediate, painful. Water is scarce, and what little is available is filthy. There is no indication that they will ever get out of this prison. As far as they know, none have gotten out - other than those who have died...

    A few of the prisoners send whispers through the prison: they have a plan! A plan to escape! They have been working on the plan in secret, but now it is time that everyone knows, so that everyone will know the way to run when a section of fence comes down. There is still hunger, but, among some, a bit of hope. Other prisoners are convinced it will never work - whatever the plan is, it simply could not work. Still others believe they will all be severely punished when the plan fails, as they are certain it must. They add fear to their hunger...

    A few prisoners know the "lay of the land", and have figured out a way to end the imprisonment of all. All can escape using this plan - those who suspect the plan will succeed, those desperate yet hopeful, and even those who are positive it will fail. The jailers will be jailed in the process (it is a brilliant plan, not just an escape) - it is also a guarantee that at least these jailers will not be able to ever do this again, to anyone.

    Just as one woman among them is amazing with taking disparate scraps of food and making the meals more palatable, another woman is the best healer - the 'go to' person when there are scrapes and cuts and diarrhea - she knows the healing herbs among the weeds. There are other prisoners who are very strong physically, and are able to help out with the work so the weakest prisoners are not conspicuous. One man is amazing at capturing the dew, providing everyone with just a bit of the freshest, cleanest water in the camp. Within their equality, there is differentiation, there are honed skills. A few are strategists. They really do have the best chance of providing a strategy for escape. The plan will involve just a few of them - they have gotten closest to the guards, they have gained their trust...

    Now, are the prisoners weak who would listen to the strategists? Maybe the preacher is a Christ-conscious Buddha, and is correct that the prisoners do indeed have the metaphysical power within themselves to escape. Even if it is true, can they all learn to do it? Should they tell the strategists - who have declared that there is a small window of time, and they are going to try within days - "no thank you, we're going to figure out how to do this using metaphysics!" Are the prisoners in danger of relying on the strategists forever, or will they learn enough about the strategy as it unfolds that they could lead another escape, if ever necessary again? What about the group using specific honed skills of a few to help the many? Isn't that merely wise use of willing human resource, ingenuity, and compassion? Or, is that the weakness of everyone, because none have mastered all the skills to be totally independent of the group?

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    I searched the title of the "newsletter" referred to and found this link where "somebody" seems to have posted it.

    http://www.libertyroundtable.com/con...9D-and-fulford

    Maybe someone who has got a copy can confirm if this is in fact the one....?

    * Post update *

    Confirmed by YvonneG
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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    justoneman, you are not a traitor. you are a genuine person that has concerns for other peoples welfare. this is a good thing. we all want change, good change. but not at the expense of innocent lives. i understand where you are coming from. my thoughts are with you.
    warmest regards, corson
    Be true to YOUR SELF my friend. Not all of us are on the same page or share the same Truths... I respect you being true and open with yours. Stand strong and be proud that you are thinking for yourself and not being a follower! Like Corson said... you are NOT a traitor.

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    Yes this is the one...thanks...now I can go to bed :-)

    Quote Posted by Blueskywalking (here)
    I searched the title of the "newsletter" referred to and found this link where "somebody" seems to have posted it.

    http://www.libertyroundtable.com/con...9D-and-fulford

    Maybe someone who has got a copy can confirm if this is in fact the one....?

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    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    I think we are doing pretty good on this thread so far...I haven't seen anyone not respect Justoneman even if they disagree or whatever. So I think we are doing really well.

    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    I appreciate the post, I am going to tip toe through these threads for a little while with some of the heated responses from some reactionary minds that I have seen lately.

    There are a lot of brave people here who are willing to put themselves out there. I hope they receive the respect they deserve and that people can disagree without being so personal and vicious and/or thin skinned.

    This is a great site and I hope we can avoid the moral decay that some of the other sites have suffered from... like an earlier mentioned site ATS. I love you all. "Can't we all just get along" Sorry, had to borrow that...
    You are VERRRRY correct... once bitten twice shy I guess... I was worried by a recent thread or two where people have disappointed me, but people always do that do they not?
    This one is going nicely... I love people that disagree and continue to respect each other; it is a true show of wisdom!

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    Yeah for us!

    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    I think we are doing pretty good on this thread so far...I haven't seen anyone not respect Justoneman even if they disagree or whatever. So I think we are doing really well.

    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    I appreciate the post, I am going to tip toe through these threads for a little while with some of the heated responses from some reactionary minds that I have seen lately.

    There are a lot of brave people here who are willing to put themselves out there. I hope they receive the respect they deserve and that people can disagree without being so personal and vicious and/or thin skinned.

    This is a great site and I hope we can avoid the moral decay that some of the other sites have suffered from... like an earlier mentioned site ATS. I love you all. "Can't we all just get along" Sorry, had to borrow that...
    You are VERRRRY correct... once bitten twice shy I guess... I was worried by a recent thread or two where people have disappointed me, but people always do that do they not?
    This one is going nicely... I love people that disagree and continue to respect each other; it is a true show of wisdom!

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

    Honestly I'm with you. I'd absolutely love nothing better than to set it all down, and let someone else clean my house. Who wouldn't.

    That's how not how we get freedom. We will get equally dependent on the house cleaners.
    Hello 9eagle9.

    Allow me to offer another perspective, using those ideas as a starting point.

    I would agree if sentient beings had a real chance to clean their own house, knew how, and refused. Even if I (and my family) were among them, I would feel that our group lesson/karma was unlearned/unpaid.

    Let me set this scene:

    Hundreds of bleak, gaunt, starving people within the confines of a tall fence, with razor wire above. A prison camp. Resources are not really scarce, (guards and jailers are well fed, healthy, and well-equipped), but the keepers allocate resources to the prisoners as if scarcity was true. Deep despair from years of brainwashing, failed attempts to escape is rampant. A guy who appears to be a preacher or shaman, or maybe insane, imprisoned as well, walks among the prisoners, calmly, confidently, telling them - each of them - that they have the power to transcend the cage. They can break free simply by metaphysically refusing to be bound.

    The starving prisoners shrug, some are annoyed and move away. They have heard this before, they are tired of hearing it. A few have listened, but no one has escaped. The hunger is deep, immediate, painful. Water is scarce, and what little is available is filthy. There is no indication that they will ever get out of this prison. As far as they know, none have gotten out - other than those who have died...

    A few of the prisoners send whispers through the prison: they have a plan! A plan to escape! They have been working on the plan in secret, but now it is time that everyone knows, so that everyone will know the way to run when a section of fence comes down. There is still hunger, but, among some, a bit of hope. Other prisoners are convinced it will never work - whatever the plan is, it simply could not work. Still others believe they will all be severely punished when the plan fails, as they are certain it must. They add fear to their hunger...

    A few prisoners know the "lay of the land", and have figured out a way to end the imprisonment of all. All can escape using this plan - those who suspect the plan will succeed, those desperate yet hopeful, and even those who are positive it will fail. The jailers will be jailed in the process (it is a brilliant plan, not just an escape) - it is also a guarantee that at least these jailers will not be able to ever do this again, to anyone.

    Just as one woman among them is amazing with taking disparate scraps of food and making the meals more palatable, another woman is the best healer - the 'go to' person when there are scrapes and cuts and diarrhea - she knows the healing herbs among the weeds. There are other prisoners who are very strong physically, and are able to help out with the work so the weakest prisoners are not conspicuous. One man is amazing at capturing the dew, providing everyone with just a bit of the freshest, cleanest water in the camp. Within their equality, there is differentiation, there are honed skills. A few are strategists. They really do have the best chance of providing a strategy for escape. The plan will involve just a few of them - they have gotten closest to the guards, they have gained their trust...

    Now, are the prisoners weak who would listen to the strategists? Maybe the preacher is a Christ-conscious Buddha, and is correct that the prisoners do indeed have the metaphysical power within themselves to escape. Even if it is true, can they all learn to do it? Should they tell the strategists - who have declared that there is a small window of time, and they are going to try within days - "no thank you, we're going to figure out how to do this using metaphysics!" Are the prisoners in danger of relying on the strategists forever, or will they learn enough about the strategy as it unfolds that they could lead another escape, if ever necessary again? What about the group using specific honed skills of a few to help the many? Isn't that merely wise use of willing human resource, ingenuity, and compassion? Or, is that the weakness of everyone, because none have mastered all the skills to be totally independent of the group?

    Dennis
    Hi Dennis that sounds similar to what I said a few days ago. In my case scenario the detractors of the plan to escape seemed to make the walls of the prison thicker. In so doing they were helping the Governer and his jailors keep the security of their prison more secure.


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    I'm not here to comment on the "plan" but I will say the Archons are real in my book. We are the watchers and I do firmly believe that......

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    On a tree with a thousand leaves, do you "know" in advance, with 100 % certainty, precisely which leaf will fall next, when, its velocity, its path, its landing area? Apply these questions to every leaf on the tree. Each one presents a possibility.

    "When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the Truth"

    (These wise words were created by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in the Sherlock Holmes stories, and used in at least 3 x STAR TREK movies spoken by the Spock character - a metaphor for logical thinking, which in itself, is just ONE possible reality)

    Well,... that depends on your "beliefs" about what is and isn't possible and "real".

    Remember, if there was only one way to do a thing, there would be only one person on the planet.

    The future hasn't happened yet, and it is not entirely written in stone
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    On a tree with a thousand leaves, do you "know" in advance, with 100 % certainty, precisely which leaf will fall next, when, its velocity, its path, its landing area? Apply these questions to every leaf on the tree. Each one presents a possibility.

    "When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the Truth"

    (These wise words were created by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in the Sherlock Holmes stories, and used in at least 3 x STAR TREK movies spoken by the Spock character - a metaphor for logical thinking, which in itself, is just ONE possible reality)

    Well,... that depends on your "beliefs" about what is and isn't possible and "real".

    Remember, if there was only one way to do a thing, there would be only one person on the planet.

    The future hasn't happened yet, and it is not entirely written in stone
    Wow, very nicely siad.

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    There is nothing to betray, Justoneman. There is an idea floating around and there are updates or more details or just rehashing. That represents the the ones who like what they are hearing from Drake, and even more importantly, like what it symbolizes.

    Then there are those who disagree. Like Bill Ryan, he said his piece, with his 'bet' and that was that. This is not so much about disagreeing as not respecting our intelligence. We know some of you disagree, we heard you the first, second, third and fourth time. It doesn't stop either. It is no longer an opinion, but an agenda. I am interested in what the agenda is. Disagreeing does not take multiple posts. It supposes we are all amnesiac or retarded.

    That is what people like me have an issue with. Not an opinion.
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    Secrets of Survival with Joel Skousen

    Joel Skousen tells you his thoughts on 'DRAKE' @ 16.50 mins

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    100% Trust
    The idea is, that you have always trusted 100% in something. What we call "doubt" is not a lack of trust. It is an absolute, unshakeable, unswerving 100% total conviction in a negative reality.

    You always use "trust" 100%. It's just a matter of whether you trust something you don't prefer, or trust in something you do prefer. Now which do you prefer to trust in? What you prefer, or what you don't prefer?

    Paradoxically, as soon as you let the way you are doing it be "all right," you will probably change. That's the whole paradoxical "mechanism".

    As soon as you allow where you are to be "all right," you will be able to get "where you want to be" much faster.

    When you are always "where you want to be", you are living in the now.

    If you let where ever you are be where you want to be, you will live in the moment. And then everything will be able to find you. There is no other time that exists except now.

    If you are living in the past, living in the future, then nothing you need to work with can "find you"... because in the present, "you are not at home".

    So again: where do you choose to put your trust - in something you prefer or don't prefer?

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    So tell me again, what's going to happen if we step off the plank?

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