Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

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Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Quite effortless, to the point i don't know I'm helping others until after the fact and they expressed to me later that I've helped them. If I'm trying that hard to help chances are I'm not helping but enabling.

I am a parent yes, single mother.

You are composed of the same stuff I am presumably so if I can think diapers, and they show up, then you should be able to as well....? I had to do quite a bit of psyche restoration in order to do that though.

If one re-defines their life according to natural laws rather than man made laws yes it all becomes quite effortless. One rearranges from thinking into knowing.

You know your child requires diapers? yes? End of story. Why shouldn't your child have diaper?

Effort is slave mentality, effort must be spent in order to have something to spend. It's easier to just to have it arrive at your doorstep in some mysterious fashion.

The ptb have absolutely no doubt in their mind they should have everything so we give it to them. They don't share. They are afraid of losing of everything. Eventually though having everything creates a great imbalance. Adopt that sort of knowing, you are absolutely entitled to everything. It doesn't' mean you are taking from others. Nor that you will refuse to share. What is typically the first thing we think of when we think of winning the lottery. Who are we going to share it with.

The kicker here is it because of sharing's sake or out of a sense of obligation?

The more you have the more you can give away. You can't give away what you don't have for yourself.

Financial lack is typically a symptom of self value issues not being addressed, because one is not aware they have a lack of self value.

Why would the Universe deny your child diapers? There's no point or purpose to it.

Teach the kid a lesson?

In honor of how Fishy the whole subject of Drake's declarations I'lll take the Sea Bass.

Fillet Minion is hilarious btw.

The problem here is that you are projecting your capability onto others and using that as a basis for proclaiming judgement not just for whether or not they are worthy of just your attention, but of anyone's attention.

Effort, is simply the application of force on inertia. I.E. I am physically moving my body, a normally inert object. Because you do not notice it does not change the fact you are applying force and therefore taking effort. To someone of a high physical conditioning this simply means that you have achieved such a high level of physical conditioning that your mind does not pay any attention to the work your body does by comparison to others. So yes, to you the diapers seemingly materialize instantly but that is because you have managed to do more work ahead of time to achieve a benefit later, a reduction in the visibility of what may be unimportant or uncomfortable repetition of tasks that are not ones you'd care to focus on. The interesting thing about this though? All that time you spent perfecting your body also means there are things that are probably not so easy for you to do. If I were to say, ask you to synthesize a complex molecule, write an opera in a week, or write an anti-virus program you would probably consider that something that would take considerable effort if you did not already have the skills. So to say that help should never take effort is to say you are not willing to do anything new, uncomfortable or difficult for anyone. Bringing up a child I thought was the best example I could give that would be universal on difficulty, yes because you love children you probably don't notice it, but to say it takes no effort is to ignore every minute you spend changing diapers, kissing scraped knees or holding them when they cry. These many moments can be moments of joy just as they can be moments of frustration, but even that which we enjoy takes effort. We merely do not notice it because we are focusing on the awe of the beautiful feeling of joy we have instead of all of the many steps we took or are taking to have reached that moment of joy. That does not mean there were not many steps that took a lot of various types of work to get there. By ignoring the steps you fail to realize the vast investment of effort that has taken place.

What I'm trying to hammer home, is that your ability to improve at and train any of those skills or gain access to capital resources (money) that determine your definition of effort or effortless is entirely dependent on having the proper opportunities to do so. If you were say, born in Ethiopia in a starving village, you probably wouldn't have had nearly the same opportunities you did now. So when you see people like that, it seems cruel to project "I am capable now! Why isn't that starving child not capable?! He must be doing it to himself! That's the only reason I wouldn't be able to do this, so that must be his too!" Yes we are all made of the same stuff, but if you'll notice in genetics, the difference between a human and say, a dolphin is roughly small maybe fraction of a percent, and yet that tiny, infinitesimally small part of the genetic code manages to manifest as apparently vast differences in the expression of form. So even though we are all made of the same stuff we are all still vastly different in what we are capable of here as well...or would you prefer next we move on to criticizing all humans for not being able to swim as fast or hold their breath underwater for as long as a dolphin? ;p

How can we honor the natural laws and work with them if we do not fully acknowledge there are limits in our present experience of reality to the physical, intellectual and material capability of a lone individual in a given situation? That sounds more like honoring the "Law of the Jungle" to me. What is the Law of the Jungle? Well abbreviated "F-u, got mine!" If you want to say more plainly: "I don't feel comfortable really offering significant help to anyone" then that's fine, but please just say it rather than project this idea with your verbiage that anyone who was not fortunate enough to have the same opportunities as you must be some sort of damaged individual who therefore deserves a cruel fate entirely because they could not arbitrarily become you. Can you become a Dolphin, right this second? Because if not I have some words for you about your swim times! ;D

That is the sort of impression you project when you imply that anyone who thinks taking care of others is important must be a sign they are evil incarnate. Some people recognize limitations and know what it's like to be put against your will into a situation you hate with absolutely no chance of escape. Yes, you too could have this happen to you unless you can somehow walk through walls. We all have limitations, and by leveraging our strengths and weaknesses together we're able to turn that into a net gain through community action. It could mean the difference between you alone doing backbreaking labor every day for ten years, or you taking some more effort now to train ten friends, and living rather easily for eight of those years because you formed a small community. If you really think that dealing with those ten people would be much harder than the extra labor for you, then I would recommend phrasing that as a statement of personal preference since the language you used caries a lot of negative implications you may not have been aware of.

Okay, rant off. ^_^;;

[9eagle9]

Drake is amusing as he poses a member of Order of Dragons (oh hell maybe he IS a member) which is of course a plaything poser sort of contrivance of the mono-ARCHy a sort of order to keep the too nosy preoccupied so they don't get too close to the Origins of the matter. . Which is of course has archonic influence all over their royal little arses. Mono-arch. Hello? They usurped the orginal draconic matriachal creator species, and replaced them with thrones. Thrones of course are a hierarchy of archons.

Drake, Draco, .....lol. Durp. .(he he) A Drake of course is another word for dragon. Durp te do. So amusing to hide out in the open. Pen-dragon you are not , Drake.

in an attempt to very much hide the draconic nature of what was called the Creator species, they've tossed out a snake (satan/lucifer) and reptilians to blur the lines between true draconianship (people who have the dragon expressed through them). and those who are stuck with feeble orders and labels.

An actual dragon is race of people the current monarchies have tried very hard to obliterate, there are some few carrying the blood of the dragons, and the monarchies are scared ****less of them because they aren't very condition able. And one day they may decide to take a hair up their ass and take their custodianshp back. The monoarchy doesn't want custodian ship (care-taking) it wants dominion (another sort of archon).

Traditionally they were custodians , there are some few left of Native American extraction and of Irish extraction (which is why the monarchies tried so hard to obliterate those people, gawd knows there was a dragon lurking in there someplace). Other cultures too, the pre-eminence of the orginal dragon is renown around the world and more than likely snatched up and perverted as a symbol for usurping feudal monarchies.






Poser.

[Chester]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
Is this a philosophy class now?


And Justoneman, I just read a little of your "living post" addition, and I so appreciate the honest "exercise" you are going through, instead of trying to convince us of anything.

I have question for you and others, ...well, several:

Does love exist? I know it does because I love.
In my life, I see more love then anything else, UNLESS I get my brain freezed into fear and all that is thrown at us, including my own subconscious.

When I get to share that awesome hug from one of my sons - I experience love - when I get that incredible gaze from my lovely wife - I experience love - when the cute dog that I live with runs and jumps into my lap and starts uncontrollably licking me - I experience love. When I see someone genuinely kind to another - I experience love - when I see groups without agenda working to help others... from those experiences, I believe I know love exists.

I have learned about the Archons through a gnostic teacher who also teaches about the Goddess Sophia.

Gnosticism and Sophia are my friends -
I wish I didn't know the Archons but in the metaphor, Sophia created as the Mother the Demiurge and the Demiurge has responsibility to some extent for the Archons - It is all metaphorical and I spent many years getting into the heart of these metaphors where words can no longer suffice - The Wikipedia link covers the various schools of thought (variations on the perennial philosophy) and gives you references to the original materials like The Nag Hammadi - but the essences are best found within - the metaphors assist you in accessing this inner knowledge -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

So its sorta hard to avoid being in this universe, but at least knowing the Archontic influence, one can reclaim their soul and then its up to each of us to take care of our complete being - soul/spirit/mind/body. Thus I sense we are all subject to influence of the Archontic forces - how each of us handles that is individual - I did a terrible job for years and caused quite a bit of stress in other people's lives - if there's truth to reincarnation and my soul got caught up in the earth mess (and I put the odds of this up near 100%), I have no doubt I have been quite evil and/or very willingly misled in many lifetimes. I don't blame the Archons for my experiences - in fact, if one looks at it from the bigger picture, they are just a part of each of us but that's for each of us to decide.

I embrace Sophia (wisdom) and hope that when I leave this life, those I have known will say I eventually "got (at least some of) it."
If I were ruler of the universe, I would resign and ask Sophia to take over and take the demiurge with me outa this universe.

[Chester]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
Hi folks - as promised, I have updated my original post to include two new components to my original post that have once again, change the positioning of my heart.

justoneflipflopper

Hey, not sure if I remembered or not, but wanted to suggest looking into Tanaath and TheSilverLegion.org , also Robert Stanley and Unicus Magazine, plus Duncan O'Finioan, they have all dealt with what are sometimes referred to as The Archon beings (I'm sure there are many different names for these), and those Amoebas that at least you'd be able to get some guidance from those with experience in dealing with those beings.

We'll all make it through this together, and meet eachother at the other side of this great big mountain we're climbing. hope someone remembers to bring the sandwiches . I'm happy I could be among others that have helped you out. Doing what we're here to do, help eachother, mentor and guide others.

Thanks - I am already in communication with Tanaath as well as Robert Stanley - did not hear back from Duncan. I also have a planned appointment with Eve Lorgen - an expert and counselor regarding this type of issue. Also, it is important folks know I know that I am like an alcoholic that is just over the physical addiction but only at the beginning stages of healing - I am anything but someone who would be much help to others for probably some time.

I hear it now - "Hi, my name is justoneman, and I am an archonaholic. "Hi, justoneman."

But seriously - I probably need to do regression therapy and take other steps that the counselors may recommend.

[DreamsInDigital]

I think Duncan is busy right now with his Survival Camp thing, I'm even waiting on a reply from him. But, generally he is good about returning emails as his time permits. Even with just Tanaath and Robert, you're in good hands with those two.

[Dennis Leahy]

OK, I'll bite. This has nothing to do with me believing the Drake material, but rather why on Earth this flimsy rebuttal is getting cited as of major significance. This rebuttal is really very poor, and drops to typical mockery, hyperbole that are the hallmarks of a troll. Rather than break it all up into quoted segments, I'll use color to make my points. Joel's comments in Blue. My comments in GREEN (I had to use bold or it looked kinda similar to the blue)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

BEWARE THE CLAIMS OF “DRAKE” AND FULFORD

By Joel Skousen Mon 23rd Apr 2012

From time to time I have to publish a warning about disinformation people trying to lead the liberty movement astray and bring it into ridicule. {ok, the author warns us that this is a targeted 'hit piece.'} Recently, claims by David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford are once again causing subscribers to email me for comment. Both Wilcock and Fulford may be sincere patriots but they have been listening to disinformation experts who are whispering bogus conspiracy claims in their ears. {He is claiming authority to discredit others by his opinion. Oh, and those words I highlighted sound like every debunker I ever read. Joel may be a good guy, and well meaning. However, I would not recommend using 'debunker language' to refute someone's claims, as it equates the author with debunker-shills.} These disinfo guys claim to be Pentagon insiders and are telling them that loyal elements of our military are about to arrest all the insiders and globalists and save us from their nasty world government agenda. Not only is it not true, it’s patently ridiculous. It’s also impossible to pull off with these dupes broadcasting the plot to all the world. {Conclusion without valid argument. It would only be impossible if 100% stealth was required, correct?}

One of these so-called insiders, according to David Wilcock calls himself “Drake.” Here’s one of David Wilcock’s enthusiastic promotions about Drake to his readers [my critique in brackets]:

“Drake stated that everyone who is associated with anything that is detrimental to the public will be held accountable for their actions. One caller asked if the mass arrests will include the people who spray chemtrails in our air, those who place fluoride in our water and those who abuse animals. Drake stated, ‘You might want to include everything you can think of in terms of making things right [“everything” would take eons to make right, even if you could document it].’ {Seriously? The author chose a bit of hyperbole on Drake's part to highlight as a piece of evidence to 'beware the claims? Out of hours of Drakes dialogue, this bit of hyperbole? Does that mean the author was hard pressed to find words to argue with, rather than just a gut feeling?}

“Drake has been revealing a new movement regarding a mass arrest of all corrupted politicians, banksters, etc... which possibly might involve the selection of Ron Paul as an interim or temporary President of the United States until formal elections can be held [with claims like this, it’s no wonder Ron Paul is disavowing any contact with conspiracy groups]. {I agree that Drake should never have mentioned Ron Paul, or that Drake likes him. The words I heard, however, did not have this characterization. I did NOT hear Drake say that the group he represents told him that Ron Paul was a consideration for an interim president; I heard something more like that Drake "wouldn't mind" if that happened, and said he likes him. That's quite a bit different.}

“If you look at the massive number of banker resignations since September 1, 2011 (450 and counting) [grossly exaggerated. Perhaps 6-8 at the most] {I have not done the due diligence to know if the number is closer to 6 or 450. I also get the sense, listening to the entire conversation, that the actual message from the "white hats" could be summed up in one paragraph, and we are listening, to a great extent, to Drake's opinions that he was not forbidden to express, so he is. I'll bet each person in the group has differing opinions, and there is a small agreed-upon core plan, strategy and simple message. Drake's personal opinion about why people are resigning was expressed, not the "white hat" knowledge.} it makes sense that these people are quitting in the hopes of not being persecuted for their crimes against humanity. According to Drake, everyone will be held accountable whether they are employed in their current positions or not.

“Regarding reimbursement for fraudulent income tax collected by the IRS, Drake stated, ‘All of these things are going to be rectified [Hype. Sorting out everyone’s returns for a fair tax would take decades].’ {Not to pull a Bill Clinton, but it depends on the definition of 'rectified', doesn't it? Did Drake say someone was going to look through all past tax returns, or did he use a blanket statement that it would be rectified? Rectified how, exactly? I got the impression Drake doesn't know and said something in one interview that some of this stuff is being worked on.} Question: Due to the magnitude of this operation, are people being arrested now and then, and a big announcement will be made once they are all rounded up?

“Drake: Not exactly. You’ve got people behind the scenes who are taken into custody and/or put under house arrest that’s not going to be in the mainstream news [contradicted below]. The basis of what’s going to happen is very simple. We have set the country free through the notification process [This refers to the bogus efforts of self-styled Sovereign Americans to give legal notice to state governors and other federal officials to step down, or be subject to prosecution and arrest]. {Here, we get the conclusion that the background sovereignty issue used as a platform is "bogus." Is it? How does the reader know? How does the author know? Is it OK for the author to "just know?" As has been said elsewhere, is it possible that is would not hold up in a modern - corrupt - court, but holds enough validity to satisfy members of the group that they have the legal platform to go through with their plan?}The secondary part of that is that the military has assured its backing to us for the backing of the mass arrests scenario [Sure, all these yesmen in the military are suddenly planning a huge mass arrest plan and the all listening ears of government eavesdropping hasn’t got a clue this is coming? How gullible does he think we are?]. {Oh please, do not tell me, he is going with the "someone would have talked" anti-conspiracy rebuttal theory. After all the years and all the conspiracies, like JFK and 9/11, where (as yet) those who know have not spoken. We are supposed to believe that no group within the government could keep a secret from the government's inner spy ring? Ha! However, if there is an attempt, and it is thwarted, it would probably be from the fact that the wrong ears inside the government DID hear about it. } The mass arrests scenario is going to be primarily all of your celebrity or well-known figures. You’re going to recognize a load of the names [How if he claims no media coverage?].”{Drake did not claim "no media coverage." I distinctly heard that the white hats will be broadcasting, and that there may even be some live footage of arrests.}

“Drake: The first that happens is the central banking system is going to be required to repay each and everything that they borrowed [with what, more printed funny money? He hasn’t thought this out]. {Though I disagree with a gold standard, the central bankers surely have piles of "precious metals" and a great deal of tangible property.} This will bankrupt that corporation [bankruptcy means the citizens don’t get paid back—how is that a promised repayment?]. {Yes, take away all of the ill-gotten money - in whatever form it has been converted into - and that would leave them bankrupt, right?}

“Drake: Second part of this is a load, and I mean a heavy load, of criminal charges. Those criminal charges are not limited to anything. They contain just about every crime you can think of [does this kind of sloppy language give you confidence that he knows what he is talking about?]. {It tells me Drake is colloquial, and he didn't think of the word 'myriad' or 'plethora.'} Following that, a reorientation back to the original “de jour” founding document government that was originally set in the United States will be implemented [he is referring to the restoration of sovereignty based on technical issues of common law—a theory fraught with lots of out dated terms that are not capable of restoring a sound basis for liberty. In this case the “De jure” sovereign is recognized by law or the constitution, but not in position to practice its power because of “de facto” sovereign claims by false government]. {The case is being made that these are not "out-dated terms", but rather the basis of a case. Again, put that case in front of a modern, corrupt court, and it falls apart. Put that case in front of a new - not cabal assigned - judge adjudicating in the spirit of the law, and the exact opposite could easily be true.}

“Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc… [and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. {So, how should Drake have said not to panic, that they would try to make sure everyone's needs were met short-term, during the disruptions?} If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution---impossible even with dictatorial powers]. {Again, jump down his throat for the words he's selecting to try to keep it calm as possible during a transition?} This is going to be done with the least amount of chaos and as peaceably as possible. Some people will probably want to shoot it out [must be referring to people more radical than himself, if that’s possible]. {Ad hominem attack. That's all you've got?} That’s their problem.”

“There’s going to be a worldwide reevaluation of currencies from a debt instrument to an equity instrument and that will facilitate considerable changes [In order to do that, he’s got to claim that his military insiders are going to take over all other governments that put out fiat money too. Again, not possible. He’s just blowing hot air]. {Actually, in terms of other governments, Drake said that there were quite a few nations working on monetary/currency issues, not something the US white hats will dictate.} As far as I understand it, the plan has changed. They were going to have a new currency which would allow for an exchange program and they decided that it could be done in terms of the currency that we have now, except that it says Federal Reserve Note on it. I’m thinking they’re going to bring the newly printed money back, bleach the paper and reprint [just too idiotic to comment on]. {Again, mistaking Drake's conjecture for a well thought-out plan.} It will go from a debt instrument to an equity instrument backed by assets.”

“In regard to HAARP, the controls will be taken over so it won’t be used as a weapon against innocent people. There are a lot of good things that that can be used for [not true. It has no useful purpose except to interfere with and disrupt the electromagnetic spectrum]. {I happen to personally know someone who applied for a job at the Alaska HAARP facility (north of Fairbanks, I think) and when I voiced my concern, he laughed and said HAARP could not change weather - it is a testing tool. So, I'd say, don't be so sure you know what HAARP can and cannot do, or what scientists dealing with harp *think* HAARP can or cannot do.} Regarding Benjamin Fulford: ‘I am not going to confirm anything Fulford says because he is not in the inner loop at this point.’ [the ultimate in arrogance, to dish another dupe who is promoting similar disinformation to Drake’s]” {Another ad hominem.}

I’m taking the time to cover this because too many people in the liberty movement want to believe it. Don’t. It’s total wishful thinking, and not good thinking at that, as I have pointed out in my comments. There are two major flaws in this claim that completely destroy its credibility:

1) That the military is going to arrest the entire cabal and those that support them. This has two aspects: First, there is no one who knows “who they are” outside of a hundred or so front men. If you don’t know who they all are how do you arrest and eradicate them? And how do you prove their guilt? There is no way to distinguish between them and the multiple layers of involvement by other dupes in conspiracy without being with them on the inside. Only a few know the entire plot, and we don’t know who they are. And even if we did, we don’t have access to their past secret communications that would prove their complicity and guilt. Most people going along with globalism are at some level of compliance ranging from ambition to get ahead to fear of bucking a powerful control system. How do you sort out the guilt? Second, the military hierarchy filters out those who oppose government policy and never promotes them to high rank. Believing in a military revolution in today’s world of yesmanship is an illusion of grand proportions. Ask those of us who have been officers in the military and seen how unthinking and controlled the system is.{who they are? Well it would not be hard to make a list of a few dozen of the top players, right? These are not hardened soldiers, they are mostly fancy pants, privileged, white men who have never had to go four hours without their favorite beverage, at their favorite temperature. These cowards will start singing after the first missed wine and cheese hour passes. Don't worry, when the blabbing starts, you'll need terabytes on recorders to get it all down.
Secondly, good. Broadcast that meme. You're right Joel, no one could move through the ranks that harbored ill-will toward criminal and depraved behavior. No need to worry, Dark Cabal guys, relax. heheheheh}

2) If Drake really knew something like this were coming, he would never run around giving interviews on the subject. To reveal it beforehand would only have the effect of unleashing a massive dragnet by the establishment intelligence agencies to root out those military officers (if they did exist) who are conspiring to arrest them.{Right again Joel. It is impossible. Dark Cabal guys, relax, keep laundering that drug money, keep ordering up the children for sex, keep doing all the dirty back-room deals, keep oppressing the useless eaters. You are safe. Nothing could possibly happen to you. In fact, have theme parties based on this! Sing karaoke songs making up new words naming all the co-conspirators! Be really daring! Film yourselves doing your most depraved deeds! Have a contest to see who has the most incriminating video! Have some fun with this! }

All of this is so patently ridiculous that I’m embarrassed for the movement and those good people who are taken in by it. But, perhaps that’s part of the purpose—to drive thinking people away and discredit the ones who understand how the true conspiracy operates.{Well, what else did we have for entertainment this past 2 weeks? Kinda fun thinking about Robin Hood getting ready to kick the Nottingham sheriff's arse. Made the past couple weeks a little bit more fun.}

My views match those of Skousen's very closely. My own critique, though, might not be quite so acerbic! But he's plainly irritated by this major (and successful!) diversion -- as am I. {Only if I could figure out what important 'thing' everyone was diverted from, and that we could have actually done something about it would this make sense. None of us know what to do about Fukashima, drone bombing, more freedom-robbing bills zipping through Congress, Monsanto, or the imminent financial meltdown triggered by the $700 trillion derivatives debt. It made no difference to the Dark Cabal if we were all at an amusement park for the past 2 weeks. If it is phony, then yes, it is a diversion, but it's not like we were all just about to do something decisive - and shelved our big idea.}

The only factual error is his reference to the number of resignations in the finance sector, which is more than 6-8. But those are certainly because of the insider awareness of the likelihood of a major financial meltdown in the fairly near future... not the fear of 'arrests'. They're simply jumping ship before it sinks. {I agree that the top of the financial pyramid is still full of rats. Few have jumped ship, and the meme that imminent arrest for financial wrongdoing would make any of the rats jump is not logical. They are not 'less guilty' by stepping down now. Was that DW or Drake that guessed that was the case? Could have even been an inside 'white-hat' who made that mistaken notion. That does not negate the possibility of a plan and a strategy with mass arrests of "bad guys."}

My final comment is that Drake's claim of imminent arrests is being chorused by a number of channeled entities -- such as Mike Quinsey's 'SaLuSa'. And that, I'm afraid, is also a final nail in their credibility. As I've said a number of times, almost all channeled material is way too Amerocentric -- and also dishes up to the gullible reader exactly what they want to see. {Did the channelers echo this stuff, or invent it? If they echoed it - which is what I think happened - that isn't Drake's fault, right?}

I think that Joel Skousen's rebuttal was quite weak. And, since (as far as I know) we really were not diverted from anything we would have actually done (and damn, that stings that The Reset Button is among the things almost no one would even try getting behind), well then, the diversion was really no big deal. There has been intense interest in Drake, but I have not seen anyone that stopped living their life to place all their faith in Drake and company. I still think the guy's sincere, at least that there is a group and they are going to take a run at it. If they don't, oh well, some of us have an extra few cans of beans and a few rolls of toilet paper. It will still come in handy.

BEWARE THE IDES OF MAY

Dennis

[Chester]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Drake is amusing as he poses a member of Order of Dragons (oh hell maybe he IS a member) which is of course a plaything poser sort of contrivance of the mono-ARCHy a sort of order to keep the too nosy preoccupied so they don't get too close to the Origins of the matter. . Which is of course has archonic influence all over their royal little arses. Mono-arch. Hello? They usurped the orginal draconic matriachal creator species, and replaced them with thrones. Thrones of course are a hierarchy of archons.

Drake, Draco, .....lol. Durp. .(he he) A Drake of course is another word for dragon. Durp te do. So amusing to hide out in the open. Pen-dragon you are not , Drake.

in an attempt to very much hide the draconic nature of what was called the Creator species, they've tossed out a snake (satan/lucifer) and reptilians to blur the lines between true draconianship (people who have the dragon expressed through them). and those who are stuck with feeble orders and labels.

An actual dragon is race of people the current monarchies have tried very hard to obliterate, there are some few carrying the blood of the dragons, and the monarchies are scared ****less of them because they aren't very condition able. And one day they may decide to take a hair up their ass and take their custodianshp back. The monoarchy doesn't want custodian ship (care-taking) it wants dominion (another sort of archon).

Traditionally they were custodians , there are some few left of Native American extraction and of Irish extraction (which is why the monarchies tried so hard to obliterate those people, gawd knows there was a dragon lurking in there someplace). Other cultures too, the pre-eminence of the orginal dragon is renown around the world and more than likely snatched up and perverted as a symbol for usurping feudal monarchies.






Poser.

Bammo 9eagle9 - now you are talking direct - Thanks for the post justone

[DreamsInDigital]

@ Dennis,

I just wanted to point out, in support of what you are pointing out, etc. What Drake said, that guy missed. In the first part regarding media coverage he said "that’s not going to be in the mainstream news" , below when he talked about people we'd recognize, and what you said about the White Hats etc, I believe Drake was intimating that this coverage (until the choke hold is broke on MSM completely) would be provided by either independent sources within The White Hats, as you mentioned. And/Or the coverage would be provided by Alternative (or possibly World News Sources?) News Sources, which are still Media. Well done on your post btw. And, what evidence do we have that guy is not a Cabal Shill? Or Paid Disinformationist? Or, someone with a stick up their backside that is just jealous that they didn't think of this first and couldn't get the backing that Drake et al apparently has, if they tried.

[Space_Ace]

Excellent post, Dennis Leahy! Those "debunking" Drake are either disinfo agents or brainwashed fools who don't realize that if mass arrests don't happen, we obviously can't win our freedom. It's far worse to not even try than try and fail. If we don't try, we automatically fail anyway!

[Avocadess]

Naysayers in re Drake all too often criticize him for things that are simply NOT TRUE. It only proves to me that the poster has not even listened to him (or read transcripts of his shows). Why? I suppose because of the FEAR they have. I can understand that, but I don't condone it. I think it would be wise to take in all the information as best as one can before making sweeping judgments against Drake et al.

I don't mean to pick on you, Wynderer, but just want to give one example (because one could spend 12 hours a day responding to such nonsense posts). You said:

"'the plan' suggests that 'elite' Humans alone are the ones to be toppled -- it's like you all walk around, keeping your gazes horizontal , looking & thinking only about your own species in re the mess here on Earth....you don't control your own planet --"

Patently untrue. The current "sweep" to be pretty well completed by June is of the top-level "elites" of the dark cabal -- TRUE -- but that is only the BEGINNING for all of us, and Drake talks about this ALL THE TIME...!!! It will be up to citizens to LOCALLY "clean up" their local state, county and city governments. Drake et al. CANNOT do that for us, but he DOES give lots and lots (and lots) of ideas and examples of how we might go about being ACTIVE in our own communities -- which means TAKING CONTROL of our own lives again.

I must say I am disappointed at the sheer numbers of people making all manner of patently false statements about what Drake does or does not say -- and CLEARLY they can only be doing that if (1) they never bothered to LISTEN and REFLECT on what he is saying because they prejudged him out of either fear or sheeple mentality of "because blank thinks he's a disinformation agent," or (2) because the posters themselves are disinformation agents. No other reasons come to mind for me (unless people possibly just decide "Well, over half the people don't trust him here so to be popular I will say I don't trust him either" -- but that kind of mentality is certainly NOT what I expect to see on an otherwise somewhat savvy and intelligent forum such as Project Avalon.

Anyone who wants to get an idea of what he said in today's show, I have transcribed copious notes and posted them here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nd-more/page35

(Note: the notes actually began in a post a page previous to that in that thread -- and I highly recommend one read those as well because they are quite interesting re ET factor.)

But I can't be too aggravated. After all, if so many people had not said that Drake "didn't say anything new" in today's show, I probably would not have gotten fired up enough to do all that work. (I didn't do an exact count, but I'd say that possibly 22 NEW things were covered in today's show...!)

Well, at least I have gone from being discouraged and frustrated to amused by the reactions to Drake and "The Plan" I am reading on this forum...!

[Mad Hatter]

Posted by Space_Ace (here)
Excellent post, Dennis Leahy! Those "debunking" Drake are either disinfo agents or brainwashed fools who don't realize that if mass arrests don't happen, we obviously can't win our freedom. It's far worse to not even try than try and fail. If we don't try, we automatically fail anyway!

Well then since you have so conveniently attempted to place all those whom disagree with you in carefully crafted baskets I assume you would have no objection to me making a broadbrush statement along the lines of all the true believers are just gullible idiots but putting your ad hominem attack aside for one moment let me ask you this...

If you believe the whole debt restructure forgiveness bit and you have the courage of your convictions, which I must say I doubt, you should have noticed before you, assuming you have the ability to rub more than two neurons together, a truly wonderful opportunity...

That being the option to go and borrow / buy up bigtime in the sure knowledge you'll never have to pay any of it back!!

Any takers???

[Space_Ace]

Posted by Mad Hatter (here)

Well then since you have so conveniently attempted to place all those whom disagree with you in carefully crafted baskets I assume you would have no objection to me making a broadbrush statement along the lines of all the true believers are just gullible idiots but putting your ad hominem attack aside for one moment let me ask you this...

If you believe the whole debt restructure forgiveness bit and you have the courage of your convictions, which I must say I doubt, you should have noticed before you, assuming you have the ability to rub more than two neurons together, a truly wonderful opportunity...

That being the option to go and borrow / buy up bigtime in the sure knowledge you'll never have to pay any of it back!!

Any takers???

Anyone is free to disagree with me, but no one should attack another, not me and not Drake. Joel Skousen makes me suspicious, he seems to have something against Drake and sounds more than just a mare skeptic. As for debt forgiveness, this probably does not apply to "investors", just end users who got ripped off by the bank. Besides, prosperity funds should help all poor people and ascension should make money obsolete because every soul will have infinite prosperity and can create anything they desire.

[SKAWF]

its funny sometimes how things happen.
i was playing a game with a friend, a sort of card game.
and up popped this card



now up till that point, i thought a drake was something to do with ducks.

i think of all the things ive learned over the years,
i really wanted this whole fulford/wilcock/drake thing to be true.
because when you get down to it, things are a bit bleak.
its easy to try and take on board just how bad things are,
so much so that it hangs over me like a cloud.
when i looked into fulfords more recent stuff, i felt lifted by it.
as it stands, it doesnt bother me if its true or not.
the effect has been, that most of the pressure isnt there any more.
i dont feel so burdened by it all. much more room to maneuver

i guess we will see what happens in the longer term,

[xbusymom]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
No...YOU NEED to cooperate with the laws of mechanics in this universe. What we observe of the universe seems to be a system, what we are not observing has no such construct to it.

I don't feel the need to cooperate (agree) with the law of mechanics in this universe, I know I need to keep transcending them.

There will of course be conflict between the system keepers and the system busters.

The system keepers get angry and the system busters don't care because the system doesn't exist for them.

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
We don't need a better system. We need to learn how to exist without a system.

you have to admit that this universe is a system IN and OF itself, and since we are living in this 3d existence, we need to cooperate with the laws of mechanics of this universe

but you are absolutely right... either we are our own creators creating our realities or we are slaves of someone elses' control...

and it is a wonderful reminder to try to not live on both sides of the fence (at least at the same time)...

As much as I walk the talk already, I had to think on that a bit and admit to myself that I had been snared into believing that I had to 'start from where I was' and then find a bridge to where I wanted to be. Abraham-Hicks said it best “focusing on where you are only gets you more of where you are".

And from that perspective, buying into Drakes' (or anyone's) claim of HOW IT IS in their reality, only puts you in THEIR reality- not yours.

Thank you for the wake-up call.

[9eagle9]

No one is challenging Drake's sincerity, I'm sure he firmly he 'believes' in what he's doing.I'm sure he 'thinks' he's doing the right thing.

Which is not the same as knowing what you are doing.

Drake has to prove himself, no one else. No has to prove (thats his job) or disprove his case, they need only to convey why they don't trust his case.

I'm sorry no one is getting behind your reset button but I personally don't much care for putting the same record on to play for another millenia.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
OK, I'll bite. This has nothing to do with me believing the Drake material, but rather why on Earth this flimsy rebuttal is getting cited as of major significance. This rebuttal is really very poor, and drops to typical mockery, hyperbole that are the hallmarks of a troll. Rather than break it all up into quoted segments, I'll use color to make my points. Joel's comments in Blue. My comments in GREEN (I had to use bold or it looked kinda similar to the blue)

...

I think that Joel Skousen's rebuttal was quite weak. And, since (as far as I know) we really were not diverted from anything we would have actually done (and damn, that stings that The Reset Button is among the things almost no one would even try getting behind), well then, the diversion was really no big deal. There has been intense interest in Drake, but I have not seen anyone that stopped living their life to place all their faith in Drake and company. I still think the guy's sincere, at least that there is a group and they are going to take a run at it. If they don't, oh well, some of us have an extra few cans of beans and a few rolls of toilet paper. It will still come in handy.

BEWARE THE IDES OF MAY

Dennis

[9eagle9]

I very highly doubt I said anything about incarnate because i do not believe in the concept of evil. I am aware of great ignorance though and I'm responding to it now.

Cutting through the chase, people remain willfully ignorant, they can't be shown or corrected. They think they know everything based on heresay--what a third party has told them. Instead of what they are observing for themselves.

These are not hidden things I'm observing, they are right out in the open, demonstrated patterns of 'repeat'. No one needs a special capability for that. They just need to be honest with themselves and I'm sure people in Ethiopa are still able to do that as well.

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

...

That is the sort of impression you project when you imply that anyone who thinks taking care of others is important must be a sign they are evil incarnate. Some people recognize limitations and know what it's like to be put against your will into a situation you hate with absolutely no chance of escape. Yes, you too could have this happen to you unless you can somehow walk through walls. We all have limitations, and by leveraging our strengths and weaknesses together we're able to turn that into a net gain through community action. It could mean the difference between you alone doing backbreaking labor every day for ten years, or you taking some more effort now to train ten friends, and living rather easily for eight of those years because you formed a small community. If you really think that dealing with those ten people would be much harder than the extra labor for you, then I would recommend phrasing that as a statement of personal preference since the language you used caries a lot of negative implications you may not have been aware of.

Okay, rant off. ^_^;;

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Post script If Drake is the ideal person for winning the world back perhaps he should be in Ethiopia now, any reason why he's NOT centering his program in the area of the world that are in the greatest need?

[Unified Serenity]

He probably can't afford the plane ticket to Ethiopia, because It's costs over $2500.00 and with is love for his fellow workers, I'm sure he would have given $2500.00 to Dietra to cover her emergency that they had to put out a worldwide plea for help to cover the needed $2500.00. It makes me pretty uncomfortable that with all their connections they can't help a dear friend and fellow freedom fighter with $2500.00. Not one high muckety muck in power in the military or the vast number of countries and states that are ready to launch this rescue effort could come forward and help Dietra. Well, I'm sure there is a logical explanation for needing to ask for donations.

[9eagle9]

That's not precisely what Wynderer meant. Wyn has broached topic that relates directly to the cabals and it is apparent that most of Drakes fan club aren't much aware of this non physical phenomenon in spite of all the overwhelming wisdom of the pet psychic that is paddling frantically to attach like a pilot fish to him.

Drakes critics ARE afraid...of opening their mouths and falling into the vast yawn that mouth opening results in.

we've heard this all before. There is nothing new, they are simply items that you haven't heard of before so therefore the rest of us should have our knickers in a wad.

The usual sorting out 'we already knew that ' and heresay.


There's nothing to get excited about either way; he can't change the world the route he's taking his sheep down anyway.

He's suggesting what all others before him have trumpeted, the creation of another system. Oh jeeze we've only watched that happen five point six billion times.

We know the sheeple want another system. You need a herdsman. Okay. We got that. The shepherd has your undying devotion and you will follow him to wherever.

You don't want your shepherd challenged or questioned; that means the herd is threatened because your self identity is tied up in whole concept.((( Granted I havent' observed the Hysteria that arse when JR (Wilcocks) was shot and women were sobbing and having to take the day off from work.))

We understand that.

But I have not yet been presented with a good enough reason to join the herd.

There is always going to be a vast difference in the perceptions of the participant and the observer. Those milling about in the dust of the stampeding hooves aren't going to notice what those standing away from the pack are observing.

I forsee the worst possible scenario with Drake is disappointing you.

Better he runs the herd over a cliff so their feelings won't be hurt.

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Naysayers in re Drake all too often criticize him for things that are simply NOT TRUE. It only proves to me that the poster has not even listened to him (or read transcripts of his shows). Why? I suppose because of the FEAR they have. I can understand that, but I don't condone it. I think it would be wise to take in all the information as best as one can before making sweeping judgments against Drake et al.

I don't mean to pick on you, Wynderer, but just want to give one example (because one could spend 12 hours a day responding to such nonsense posts). You said:

"'the plan' suggests that 'elite' Humans alone are the ones to be toppled -- it's like you all walk around, keeping your gazes horizontal , looking & thinking only about your own species in re the mess here on Earth....you don't control your own planet --"

Patently untrue. The current "sweep" to be pretty well completed by June is of the top-level "elites" of the dark cabal -- TRUE -- but that is only the BEGINNING for all of us, and Drake talks about this ALL THE TIME...!!! It will be up to citizens to LOCALLY "clean up" their local state, county and city governments. Drake et al. CANNOT do that for us, but he DOES give lots and lots (and lots) of ideas and examples of how we might go about being ACTIVE in our own communities -- which means TAKING CONTROL of our own lives again.

I must say I am disappointed at the sheer numbers of people making all manner of patently false statements about what Drake does or does not say -- and CLEARLY they can only be doing that if (1) they never bothered to LISTEN and REFLECT on what he is saying because they prejudged him out of either fear or sheeple mentality of "because blank thinks he's a disinformation agent," or (2) because the posters themselves are disinformation agents. No other reasons come to mind for me (unless people possibly just decide "Well, over half the people don't trust him here so to be popular I will say I don't trust him either" -- but that kind of mentality is certainly NOT what I expect to see on an otherwise somewhat savvy and intelligent forum such as Project Avalon.

Anyone who wants to get an idea of what he said in today's show, I have transcribed copious notes and posted them here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nd-more/page35

(Note: the notes actually began in a post a page previous to that in that thread -- and I highly recommend one read those as well because they are quite interesting re ET factor.)

But I can't be too aggravated. After all, if so many people had not said that Drake "didn't say anything new" in today's show, I probably would not have gotten fired up enough to do all that work. (I didn't do an exact count, but I'd say that possibly 22 NEW things were covered in today's show...!)

Well, at least I have gone from being discouraged and frustrated to amused by the reactions to Drake and "The Plan" I am reading on this forum...!

[WHOMADEGOD]

If anyone wants to know what will happen its simple, with all your burning desires for truth
and relentless searching and assimilation of information, channel it to generating an
altered state namely Out Of Body experience while consciously lucid and then tell me
you are still scared of the ultimate threat being imposed on you!

This is all an illusion, many here will know this already, so lets change the game together
, at worst we may have to lose a body and wait for another turn.

Neutralise their fear, you neutralise their power and empower yourself, welcome to the new
dream and oh what wonder there will be.....

[Wiremu2011]

Another waste of time and energy. When you get sucked into low vibrational trash, you reap it's low vibrational fruits. Inelia's first step processing of your "fears", then learning to raise your personal vibration so that, like a virus, you also affect and raise the collective vibration as well.
Isn't that the only place we would want to be right now in these weird times we live in. Given the amount of speculation getting shoved down our throats and most of negative, I'd say it's a much safer bet going down the trail inelias recommending.
I may be wrong but her stuffs the only thing resonating with my hardcore sceptical brain. Just my opinion.