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    Default The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Hi everyone, do you think the thread title is correct or wrong? In order to try to discern it, we should analyze, at least but not limited to, the following important data:

    Firstly, there is an Electrical Engineer from the University of Chile called Pedro Gaete (his videos are in YouTube) who is the Executive Director of the “Observatorio Sísmico Solar” (Solar Seismic Observatory), and who says his company has designed a device to predict earthquakes, and with it they have already been able to accurately predict several big earthquakes a few days in advance.

    Pedro has recently been interviewed on a Chilean TV channel where he explains how their device works. These are the links:
    MUST WATCH VIDEOS (March-23-2012) In Spanish:
    Salfate Pedro Gaete 23 Mar.2012 Part.1/5
    Salfate- La predicciòn de pedro gaete 1/5

    1-5 (15min): www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKOugS78fg
    2-5 (15min): https://youtube.com/watch?v=C5P9lc4Jr4M
    3-5 (12 min): https://youtube.com/watch?v=KpvKh4fAssY
    4-5 (8 min): https://youtube.com/watch?v=ddX5n40NKSM
    I’d recommend watching the whole interview with Pedro because he gets into a lot of technical details about how earthquakes can be provoked both naturally and artificially, and how their device can predict them in advance, but just as a brief summary:

    Pedro says earthquakes can be provoked by a combination of about 20 different factors which can be both natural or artificial factors, and some of them are:

    Fluctuations in the electromagnetic field of the Earth both globally or locally (in seismic fault lines); the way other planets in the Solar System, stars (our Sun), or black holes influence the Earth’s electromagnetic field; the way the alignment of different planets-stars affect each other’s electromagnetic fields (planets-stars-black holes behave in a certain way as huge magnets); different types of natural or artificial electromagnetic pulses emitted (a) naturally by other celestial bodies (stars, black holes, etc.) or emitted (b) artificially by advanced technology (HAARP, Tesla, scalar waves, etc.).

    Pedro and his team use special antennas on the ground to measure variations in the Earth electromagnetic field in precise locations (especially around seismic fault lines). That way they can know in advance when and where an earthquake will take place.

    Pedro also says that advanced secret technology (HAARP, scalar waves, etc.) can be beamed at precise points of seismic fault lines in order to do two different things: (a) to increase or (b) to decrease the intensity of a natural earthquake.

    In other words, HAARP (or similar technologies) could be used either to alleviate a natural earthquake (making it smaller) or to provoke a huge artificial earthquake.


    Pedro Gaete says he has scientific proof (recordings) that Chile has been attacked by an earthquake weapon (scalar waves) to provoke artificial earthquakes

    In his interviews, Pedro has shown several recordings they have been able to obtain of scalar waves (HAARP or similar technology?) being beamed to seismic fault lines at very precise moments in order to provoke artificial earthquakes. Pedro talks about time windows of opportunity (Note: those time windows are due to the concurrence of specific physical factors favourable to the triggering of the earthquake) which only last a few minutes, and which the elite can take advantage of in order to amplify those natural factors and provoke a MUCH BIGGER artificial earthquake.

    He says those recordings are empirical proof of earthquake weapons being used, and that’s very serious because it directly points to State sponsored Geo-Terrorism. He thinks there are many more recent earthquakes which may have been artificial provoked using this method, such as the ones in Haiti, Chile, Japan (which included a tsumani), etc.

    Pedro also says he and his company have already notified about this situation the political and military leaders of most world countries (Russia, China, India, Europe, etc.).

    (Personal note: as an aside, could something similar have been the real cause of the sinking of Atlantis? Instead of a natural cataclysm, could it have been due to a war between different factions using advanced technology? I don’t know, but it is a good question worth delving into it)


    William Cohen, ex USA Secretary of Defence (1997–2001), says:

    Quote WILLIAM COHEN ADDRESS 4/28 AT CONFERENCE ON TERRORISM.

    Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy. Sam Nunn Policy Forum. April 28, 1997 University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia.
    http://www.fas.org/news/usa/1997/04/bmd970429d.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cohen

    Excerpt: Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

    So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important…

    What does all of this have to do with a possible december-2012 global cataclysm?

    Pedro says that on december-2012 a special and rare combination of important risky natural factors are going to coincide all at the same time: several planet alignments with the Earth, the Sun, the black hole at the center of the galaxy, etc.; plus a cyclical pulse from a near by black hole (Note: I think he refers to Elenin, which, according to Pedro, would not be a comet but a black hole and our Sun’s orbiting companion which has a period of about 11.000 years or so… I ‘think’ that’s what Pedro said… see video to verify it), etc.

    The problem with that numerous coincidence of natural factors is that it offers an appropriate natural scenario for the elite, in case they wish to do it, to use their advanced secret technology to artificially provoke a VERY BIG earthquake (or several ones at the same time in different locations) which could trigger a global cataclysm that could affect a big portion of planet Earth, if not all of it.

    Besides the explanations given by Pedro Gaete, there is a vast body of data that offers circumstantial evidence that the elite’s agenda might in fact be that one: to take advantage of the coincidental and natural occurring circumstances of that date (december-2012) in order to try to artificially provoke a pretty big global cataclysm (see more details about it in the additional info below).


    In case this hypothesis was to be true, it would mean the elite is trying to AMBUSH humanity

    In case (a) Pedro is right and the elite has the technical capability to provoke artificial earthquakes, and in case (b) the elite may have intent on taking advantage of the naturally occurring circumstances of that date (december-2012) in order to trigger a global cataclysm, that would mean the elite might be trying to AMBUSH humanity, as it was explained in the Anglo Saxon Mission.


    Could this potential ambush be stopped? Yes!!! How? Arresting the elite ASAP!!!

    That’s what Drake and Co. (the supposedly good guys from the Pentagon and US military) are trying to do (at least according to Drake). Therefore, if Drake & Co. are for real (and I hope so but cannot know for certain), let’s support them in everyway we can. One way of supporting them is by spreading this info far and wide, just in case.


    How has the elite been able to commit so many crimes against humanity with impunity? Because humanity has been misinformed and passive

    If humanity had not been misinformed, and if it had not acted so passively, the elite could not have gone so far in committing so many crimes. Also, the passivity of humanity may be due to many different factors, for instance: selfishness, immaturity, irresponsibility, greed, fear, etc.

    Therefore, the SOLUTION to this situation would be the opposite: maturity, responsibility, generosity, courage, valor, braveness, love, etc.

    So, who is to blame for this problem on planet Earth? In my opinion, there are two parties who are responsible for it: (1) the corrupt elite (50% of the responsibility) and (2) an immature humanity (50% of the responsibility).

    If we ourselves (humanity) solve number 2, number 1 (the corrupt elite) won’t be able to continue deceiving and controlling society and the problem will be solved.

    Therefore, let’s spread the word to get a better world!

    ---------------------------------

    ADDITIONAL INFO

    I’ve posted a longer and more detailed explanation of this subject in this Spanish forum:

    Post 1 (pag. 1). Desvelado misterio cataclismo dic-2012: la élite lo quiere provocar artificialmente…?
    http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria...cialmente.html

    You’ll also notice that debunkers are attacking this info in order to prevent it from spreading:

    Post 22 (pag 3). Debunkers are attacking this info so that threads are closed or deleted
    http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria...ml#post6230961

    For those of you who may need a translator, google works fine:

    Google translator
    http://translate.google.es/?hl=es&tab=wT

    There is also a vast body of circumstantial evidence which points to one direction: the elite might have intent on either (a) artificially provoking or (b) taking advantage of a global natural cataclysm to further their agenda of world domination, as it was explained in the Anglo Saxon Mission. That is explained in Post 1 of this thread:

    ”2012” movie: Fiction or reality?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...on-GeorgeLucas
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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Well, 2 of us so far are brilliant.... pats self on the back.

    It is in the HAARP patents that they can provoke an earthquake by bouncing their HAARP energy down to a spot on the earth. They can also modify the weather with it, and affect brain waves. I don't know for sure how good it is at shielding as some scalar tech is very good at that, but HAARP has been spoken of in that capacity as well, but I'm just not very versed in that area at all.

    SO. yes, HAArP can make earthquakes which would translate to tsunamis as well.

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    That makes 3 of us now.
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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    qbeac ~


    Nice thread idea.


    I voted that the elites can trigger earthquakes, not only through HAARP, but nukies as well, per the Japanese tsunami that hit Japan. It was the nukes that was drilled down into the Earth that set off the tsunami, not the alleged "9.0" quake that did not happen -- the quake was only a 6.0 quake.


    But if the elites had their way without interference from the good-guy ETs, I can personally guarantee that the world will have suffered far, far more nasty earthquakes, plus other really nasty events.


    Think about it. The dark bastard elites have proven their abilities to set off earthquakes at pretty much any time they want ... yet, there have not been really massive, damaging quakes that would have created massive suffering in entire regions, not just localized regions.


    Those kinds of really damaging quakes have not happened, despite the elites' proven abilities to set off such quakes. Why? What's been stopping them?


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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    It reminds me the illuminati card


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    Not just yes but hell yeah....

    Of course those that wonder why there is now so much publically available info on scalar weapons and want to go even further down that rabbit hole will soon run up against quantum weapons. Currently very very black and probably very very ugly if theory is anything to go by.

    A positive that might be taken from such a scenario is that while the boys play with new toys they loosen their grip on the old ones. Thus opening the way for lamestream science to finally get their heads round the physics behind the scalar stuff which should lead to all the more useful aspects of the tech becoming available....ie cure for most disease, FE, Anti-grav, etc.

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    We have a powerful thread going here so far. Unified Serenity is on our side, at least at the moment.

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    In the 1970's, Popular Science magazine did an article about HAARP entitled 'The Doomsday Machine'

    Yes, they can.

    Does dic-2012 mean December 2012?

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    We have a powerful thread going here so far. Unified Serenity is on our side, at least at the moment.

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    I wish there was a choice for "The elite can, do and have artificially provoked earthquakes and massive death tolls" But I voted for The elite can artificially provoke earthquakes!

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    I appreciate your logical presentation. I agree with your premises and logical conclusion/solution --- remove people that use the technology against humanity.

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Quote Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)
    …Does dic-2012 mean December 2012?
    Sorry, GlassSteagallfan, you’re right, that was a typo. I meant to say december-2012 (dec-12) and not dic-12.

    Please, could a moderator change the title and write this new one? Thanks.
    The elite’s secret plan to artificially provoke december-2012 cataclysm revealed…?
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    With regards to some of the comments you all have made:

    Quantum weapons: yes, Pedro Gaete also mentions that subject in his interview in the Chilean TV channel. He also mentions Tesla, zero point energy, etc.

    The technical capacity of the elite to use other types of weapons (nuclear bombs, etc.) to artificially provoke earthquakes and/or tsunamis: yes, I’ve include info about it in the links I added at the end of post 1.

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    My personal opinion about this subject is that it is VERY plausible, probable and likely that the elite have been planning on provoking an artificial cataclysm on dec-12 (on or around these years). Another option would be aggravating a natural occurring one.

    I also think that the reason why the corrupt elite has been able to perpetrate all these crimes has been partly because of the low level of consciousness of humanity. Had humanity consciousness level been higher, the elite could not have gone so far. Therefore, an increase in the level of consciousness and acting accordingly (at least a critical mass), would solve the situation.

    In any case, it is not healthy at all to have the very corrupt illuminati elite ruling this planet and with the button of the HAARP facilities at their disposal. That’s a crazy and lethal combination. Therefore, the healthiest thing to do would be to arrest them as soon as possible, as Drake & Co. say they want to do.

    Therefore, let’s support them. Let’s spread this info far and wide!!!

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Decc-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    New update by David Wilcock:

    ARREST WARRANTS: Liens Filed Against G7 Central Banks.
    Tuesday, 01 May 2012 11:33

    http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012...central-banks/

    Question:

    Does that mean that thousands of elite members are about to be arrested?

    If that’s what it means, let’s hope they don’t stop in the lower levels but go all the way up to the very top, to the capstone of the illuminati pyramid.
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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Hi, and thanks for posting this thread.

    I should mention here that I was among the first people in Australia to know about or to research the HAARP phenomenon, back in 1995. I attended a lecture from a guy who had been traveling the world researching these transmitters.

    From then on, (having had the internet on at my place since 1994) started researching about it, and put out an information pack that we used to sell at Awareness Quest meetings on the Gold Coast in 1995 and 1996.

    There was a guy who used to attend, that took my research and gave me a report based upon his knowledge of what all that math meant. His background was lasers, and he told me that HAARP was capable of punching a hole in the ionosphere, and could direct an intense beam of energy back onto the other side of the earth by creating an artificial concave mirror. He also said that it was possible for the system to create holographic projections in the sky..

    You only have to look at the reports of Tesla's experiment with a small handheld earthquake device that nearly toppled a building to know that the harmonic vibratory equipment exists and has been patented to create seismic activity. How else would a woman break a glass with only her voice? Only by synchronous vibration.

    I have a great deal of research on this topic packed away and on old floppy disks somewhere.

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Hi everyone, it would be great if somebody who understands Spanish could translate the interview with Pedro Gaete and Salfate (the one I included at the beginning of Post 1), where Pedro explains how earthquakes are provoked naturally and artificially, and how his team can predict them and has been able to record the HAARP facilities shooting scalar waves to seismic fault lines in Chile to provoke (or aggravate) earthquakes, etc., etc.

    I could translate it, but I don’t have the time right now. But I guarantee you that that interview is worth it, it is really interesting, it is a must watch.

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Hi everyone, please, let me convey a thought to you using simple logic and easy questions, and based on the following concepts of criminal law:

    Quote Means, motive, and opportunity
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means,_...nd_opportunity

    In US Criminal law, means, motive, and opportunity is a popular cultural summation of the three aspects of a crime needed to convince a jury of guilt in a criminal proceeding.

    Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant had to commit the crime (motive), and whether or not the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity)…. Etc.
    Q & A:

    Q: Can we (regular people) know for sure whether the elite will be arrested, as David Wilcock and Drake say?
    A: No, because we don’t have insider knowledge and we can only guess and speculate.

    Q: Should we all want for the elite to be arrested ASAP?
    A: Yes.

    Q: Why?
    A: Because if they are not arrested ASAP, the elite might have the means, motive, and opportunity to destroy this planet (or at least big portions of its surface) and this civilization (as it may have happened with Atlantis?).

    And that is not a joke. Let me explain why:

    If you watch the videos of Pedro Gaete (they are at the beginning of post 1, pag. 1), he explains several very important things, which are:
    1) The elite have the technical capacity to provoke artificial earthquakes. They can, do, and have done it many times (Ex: Chile, Haiti, Japan, etc.).

    2) Huge artificial earthquakes can be provoked by using advanced technology (HAARP, scalar waves, etc.) at the precise moment when a smaller natural earthquake takes place. Pedro Gaete talks about small windows of opportunity which last a few minutes each time.

    3) Pedro Gaete explains that on Dec-2012, a natural coincidence of many natural risky factors is going to take place in this solar system: several alignments of planets, the Earth, the Sun, the center of the galaxy, and a natural pulse from a nearby black hole.

    4) Pedro Gaete explains that in case the elite would like to take advantage of that natural combination of factors on Dec-2012, the artificial earthquake they could provoke would be MANY orders of magnitude BIGGER than a big earthquake. And Pedro says that if done properly (Ex: in several different locations of this planet at once, etc.) and with bad intentions (to cause harm), it could even trigger and provoke a global cataclysm.
    Q: Therefore, do the elite have the means, motive, and opportunity to cause a global cataclysm on Dec-2012?
    A: Even though we cannot be 100% sure, we can say that there is a HIGH level of probability that the elite have all 3 things:
    1) Means: Yes, the elite very probably has the means to provoke a global cataclysm (as Pedro Gaete explains)

    2) Motive: Yes, the elite have the motive because that would allow them to keep controlling this planet during the next astronomical cycle (as it is explained in detail in the Anglo Saxon Mission)

    3) Opportunity: Yes, the elite will have a good opportunity on Dec-2012 (as Pedro Gaete explains).
    CONCLUSIONS:
    Even though we cannot be 100% certain that the elite will try to provoke an artificial global cataclysm on Dec-2012 (or on another date-year), there are very good reasons to believe (based on the info included in post 1, links and videos), that there is a HIGH probability risk that the elite might want to do it and might attempt to do it.

    Therefore, the current situation in this planet (Note: having a corrupt elite ruling it and with the HAARP button at its disposal, not to mention everything else they’ve done already: provoking wars, polluting, stealing, killing, deceiving, cheating, etc.) is TOTALLY insane, dangerous, and unhealthy for all life on this planet and for the planet itself.

    Therefore, the healthiest thing to do, just in case, would be to arrest the corrupt elite ASAP.

    Therefore, let’s hope that there are wise enough, brave enough, and honest enough people in the military, so that the mass arrests of the elite becomes a reality as soon as possible (as David Wilcock, Drake & Co. say).

    Therefore, even though we (regular people) are not sure 100% what will happen, let’s support Drake & Co. How? Well, by spreading the word or by any other nice and legitimate means we can think of.
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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Hey folks,

    I´m almost sure that they can indeed make earthquakes, but I don´t believe they will use this technology to reinforce the 2012 theory.

    However, they can do that only in places where natural earthquakes can happen.

    Brazil, which is above a single tectonic plate, is immune to this technology!

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Yes, they certainly can!

    Do I care? No! BECAUSE I'M FLIPPING IMMORTAL! Just like all of us.

    Only way to go is up.
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    Default Re: The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?

    Wots secret in this, if its written here?


    All is well


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