Feminism is a NWO agenda to split the families

[wynderer]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)

I often hear the same argument, that women earn less than men. I have never seen any proof of that claim.

Then you have your hands over your ears yelling LA LA LA LA LA.


Clearly you are here to grind an axe and espouse your point of view. Right? Might I suggest you engage the fine people here in discussion rather than debate? You might find that they learn something from you about how the NWO has manipulated the equality movement and you might learn from them that there really is reason for half of the world's population to be concerned about how they are treated and valued.

i can see both points of view here -- i just watched the film 'Water' about widows in India -- & maybe i should have said that it seems to me that it is much more difficult to be a man than a woman in the western world -- this doesn't hold true for everywhere

[Neptun]

Whiskey_Mystic,

Show me a concrete example please.

There are also thousand of studies that proves we have global warming and Saddam had WMD.

Why would any sane person pay women less than men? It is illogical from a business point of view.

Is it when the company and the woman negotiate salary?

[gigha]

I just saw this thread and words escape me but thank you Whiskey Mystic for saying what I was feeling.

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
I don't even know what to say to that. THOUSANDS of studies are available that compare women and men in the SAME jobs and in the SAME companies even. Do your homework. And then prove me wrong with your own reports. The evidence here is so overwhelming that if you can't see it it is because you desperately don't want to. Why that is I have no idea.

And if you really want to argue please present something other than some anecdote about your friend who owns a company. I am a fifteen year career professional and I have worked in several Fortune 500 companies. We did our own internal salary surveys as well as looked at the reports provided by the government and several major institutions regarding salary equality across gender and race for our industry as well as other major industries.

And i might add I am watching the NHL playoffs

[wynderer]

when it's really hard to find a job, the employee doesn't have much negotiating power re salary

Posted by Neptun (here)
Whiskey_Mystic,

Show me a concrete example please.

There are also thousand of studies that proves we have global warming and Saddam had WMD.

Why would any sane person pay women less than men? It is illogical from a business point of view.

Is it when the company and the woman negotiate salary?

[jorr lundstrom]

In Sweden women and men have different sallaries, its a shame.

Even if you say its illogical. Its not a question of negotiating.

I dont know how you have it where you come from.

I still wonder wot was the purpose with this thread.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Neptun]

Posted by wynderer (here)
when it's really hard to find a job, the employee doesn't have much negotiating power re salary

Posted by Neptun (here)
Whiskey_Mystic,

Show me a concrete example please.

There are also thousand of studies that proves we have global warming and Saddam had WMD.

Why would any sane person pay women less than men? It is illogical from a business point of view.

Is it when the company and the woman negotiate salary?

If someone is an asset to a company, the person can get a higher salary. It is logic.

If you had to hire 10 people, wouldn't you pay them a fair salary to avoid they found another job and those that were a bigger asset for the company, would get a higher salary?

This is basic supply and demand:


Same happens on a baseball team. The best players get a higher salary.

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
In Sweden women and men have different sallaries, its a shame.

Even if you say its illogical. Its not a question of negotiating.

I dont know how you have it where you come from.

I still wonder wot was the purpose with this thread.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

If what you say is true. Can you show me evidence of it please. A case where one woman got lower salary because of her gender.

In Denmark we have strict labor laws and a Ministry of equal rights. I guess that is the same in Sweden.

[jorr lundstrom]

This is an article from 2009 from DAGENS NYHETER, the economic section.

Its the biggest newspaper in Sweden. It says womens sallaries are 93,4 %

of mens sallaries. Its in swedish,, I hope Neptun can read it as danish and

swedish is rather alike. Link below:


http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/kvinnolon-9...ent-av-manslon


And if you are so interested in truth as you state, you can Google

on "kvinnolöner" on swedish Google.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[gigha]

Well i for one am very happy that women got the opportunity to show what they are capable of

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=e_fPS0HwjJc

[NancyV]

I would hope most of us think equal pay for equal jobs is a good thing IF the woman and man are both equally qualified. It is true that men are still paid a higher salary than women in certain companies, at least in the US. If it is for the same job and they are both equally experienced and qualified for the job, then that's not right. But there is a huge difference between fairness and feminism. I agree with Neptun that feminism has been on the increase for a long time. I personally believe in fairness but I detest feminists. There are also many jobs that women can't do as well as men, just as there are professions where women are better than men.

I have observed feminists for the last 30-40 years and I've found many of them are man haters. Many of them want to feminize their sons, control their husbands and train their daughters to think they are better than men and that men are stupid, uncaring, etc. The efforts to emasculate men in the USA are well underway. I'm amazed at how many commercials deliberately make men look like silly buffoons. I think Neptun has a good point that this is one of the tools for disempowering men, over empowering women, destroying the family and pitting women against men. It benefits the NWO agenda to cause division among many groups, religions and genders. The feminist agenda is one tool that seems to be working well for them.

[Neptun]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
This is an article from 2009 from DAGENS NYHETER, the economic section.

Its the biggest newspaper in Sweden. It says womens sallaries are 93,4 %

of mens sallaries. Its in swedish,, I hope Neptun can read it as danish and

swedish is rather alike. Link below:


http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/kvinnolon-9...ent-av-manslon


And if you are so interested in truth as you state, you can Google

on "kvinnolöner" on swedish Google.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

DAGENS NYHETER also says we have global warming, Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and the Arab Spring was a liberation of evil dictators.

I don't give much for these so called studies. I would like to see a real case where a woman is being paid less. It is so easy to make a study and claim CO2 is the reason why we are in the end of times.

Mainstream media is often propaganda for the NWO.

[Neptun]

Posted by NancyV (here)
I would hope most of us think equal pay for equal jobs is a good thing IF the woman and man are both equally qualified. It is true that men are still paid a higher salary than women in certain companies, at least in the US. If it is for the same job and they are both equally experienced and qualified for the job, then that's not right. But there is a huge difference between fairness and feminism. I agree with Neptun that feminism has been on the increase for a long time. I personally believe in fairness but I detest feminists. There are also many jobs that women can't do as well as men, just as there are professions where women are better than men.

I have observed feminists for the last 30-40 years and I've found many of them are man haters. Many of them want to feminize their sons, control their husbands and train their daughters to think they are better than men and that men are stupid, uncaring, etc. The efforts to emasculate men in the USA are well underway. I'm amazed at how many commercials deliberately make men look like silly buffoons. I think Neptun has a good point that this is one of the tools for disempowering men, over empowering women, destroying the family and pitting women against men. It benefits the NWO agenda to cause division among many groups, religions and genders. The feminist agenda is one tool that seems to be working well for them.

I agree with you and of course I also believe in fair salary no matter what gender the person is. Somehow I think it is fake studies that are being used to create a reason for man hating feminism.

[CdnSirian]

"It does not make any sense. Why would anyone not allow a high qualified African American or Native American woman a job, if she is better qualified than a white men? It does not make any business sense. "

It's not about business, and it's not about sense. Never was.

[Space_Ace]

Neptun made many good posts which I am "thankful" for. He explained how the wage gap is a feminist lie, as well as other lies of feminism. I am saddened that some Avalon members believe the lies of feminism and mainstream media. The feminist lie is one of the most difficult lies to educate women and manginas about. Oh well, me and millions of men have given up on women and will wait for robogirl technology. Robogirls are advanced robots that look/act 100% human and will be programmed to unconditionally love you as well as cook/clean for you.

[jorr lundstrom]

That was official figures, not Dagens Nyeters opinions.

After having read every word in the thread below and followed

this thread and more of yours, I conclude that you are not

interested in truth at all. You are only interested in being right.

When you think you know better wot is happening in Israel and

Palestine than the humans who live there, i think that says all

about wot you are interested in. And bye the way, I dont wonder

why you started this thread any longer.


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rael-situation


You are the first one who has qualified to my ignore-list
for a year. Congratulations.

.................................................................................................... .........

And thank you Wiskey Mystic, youre spot on.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[CdnSirian]

Space_Ace - all working women need a Robo girl too! Dream come true!!

[CdnSirian]

Gloria Steinem at Stanford

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=N9yrEglT84c

3 min clip

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2qhO3t3ZPZ8

Full lecture. Being a single working mom I may never have time to listen to the whole thing...

I know a lot of happy couples. The men do house work and the women work. I have only known of one woman who earned the bread while the man stayed home and looked after the kids. She was unusually financially successful and he did not feel emasculated by raising his children.

Feminism was hijacked early on. Shame.

[Arrowwind]

In MHO feminism is much to blame for much. since the movement has marginalized men and women against each other, it is a movement that is not from the heart. Where there is no heart there will always be problems. The hatred and anger towards men and the ridicule they are often subjected to in the media etc is not of heart.
The hardness developing in women through feminism is not of heart either.

Separation and segregation never begets solidarity. The sexes use to be unified in purpose and family units were solid and a force to be contended with. One objective I think is to dissovle the acquisition of family wealth within the middle class and to make time such a valuable commodity that its only well spent when devoted to making monney, and that being for survival or perceived needs for survival. Most wealth is lost by the time old ages comes and this is a tactic I think that has been well thought out. Divorce, separation, court fees, division of property does not lend to strong families and the building of core units with political and social fortitude, those core units being family units. With their reduction in power and number, that leaves all to the politicians and corporations.

Currently all we have is the best politicians and corporations that money can buy... and that aint saying much for the sustenance of all others.

Granted, women have not been treated fairly thoughout this age, but the resolution does not come from pitting men and women against each other. There are other ways, and it always will include the opening of the heart and the development of compassion and service from one person to another

[Endity]

Its more complex then just saying its feminism. Its almost impossible short of having a really reallly good job to support a family. I think this is the real reason why alot of woman started working. People can hardly survive with 2 people working in the family as is. I def think a motherly figure should be with the children on a constant basis as they are very important, but also its very important for the father to play a real role as well. Both parents need time for the children.

[Neptun]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
That was official figures, not Dagens Nyeters opinions.

After having read every word in the thread below and followed

this thread and more of yours, I conclude that you are not

interested in truth at all. You are only interested in being right.

When you think you know better wot is happening in Israel and

Palestine than the humans who live there, i think that says all

about wot you are interested in. And bye the way, I dont wonder

why you started this thread any longer.


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rael-situation


You are the first one who has qualified to my ignore-list
for a year. Congratulations.

.................................................................................................... .........

And thank you Wiskey Mystic, youre spot on.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

There are official figures from IPCC that claims without any doubt that global warming is real and a professor has said climate change skeptics should be treated and mainstream media backs up on global warming. Does that mean it is true?

Somehow I don't think official figures found in a mainstream propaganda media that backs up the NWO feminist agenda is the truth.

Feel free to call me names and bring Israel vs. Palestine into the debate, I don't change my mind based on that argument.

If it helps to put me on ignore and announce it to the world, then do that too, if it makes you feel better.

[Space_Ace]

Neptun made many good posts which I am "thankful" for. He explained how the wage gap is a feminist lie, as well as other lies of feminism. I am saddened that some Avalon members believe the lies of feminism and mainstream media. The feminist lie is one of the most difficult lies to educate women and manginas about. Oh well, me and millions of men have given up on women and will wait for robogirl technology. Robogirls are advanced robots that look/act 100% human and will be programmed to unconditionally love you as well as cook/clean for you.

Posted by CdnSirian (here)
Space_Ace - all working women need a Robo girl too! Dream come true!!

I have nothing against whatever choice women make, just please keep your hate away from us. Feminists believe lesbianism is normal, why wait for robogirls when you feminists can have each other now? Since I am not gay nor plan to "turn gay"(thought about it though), I will wait for robogirls rather than start dating men. The mass arrests of the elites might occur in a month or two and then the suppressed technology that's released will fast track all men and women with the opportunity to form relationships with humanlike robots so they won't be lonely since human women and men can't get along with each other due to the elites and their feminist minions destroying that permanently.