Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[Maia Gabrial]

For awhile now, people have been mocking his credibility, but it's only a matter of time when we'll see if he's been telling the truth....

[D-Day]

Poignant, simplistic, honest... and so God dang SPOT ON!
I don't post much these days........
But I've gotta say, 9eagle9 you just nailed it right there.
That's exactly where I'm at right now, and it's a wonderful place to be.
Pay attention folks.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Total acceptance of one's self is never going to be popular as one can detect from the responses I receive . The popularity contests and the need to rush into a 'popular contest' such as the one Drake promotes is a symptom of this.

I note that people are 'feeling' empowered by all this but 'feeling' empowered is far different than BEING empowered. True empowerment comes from self acceptance. The truly empowered have no need or desire of a leader, realizing that the leader is only to make one feel good, not truly bestow a gift of empowerment.

that only comes from within. [

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I found his "jew york times" pun to be in bad taste.

[9eagle9]

What people don't understand out of their own lack of self acceptance is that I am not affected by either system. If something begins to infringe on my perception that I don't feel is worthy of me, its identified as yet another system, and put back in it's place. Self acceptance is self authority. One governs their own life.

There are trying so hard to convince me of something that I don't acknowledge as real, only because its real to them. they need it. I don't. They can't accept themselves so they are certainly not going to accept me.

The old system, I'm least affected by. Drake comes along and changes the system and I'm still least affected. he can't make my life better or worse.

The most important things in life are not 'things'.

Neither can his system. I will remain unaffected regardless if it fails or succeeds. Because its just another system that I see going on daily I suggest it will probably fail ONLY because people will not see that its just another system. Either way there's no reason for me to care. I'm not affected by either system. I know the systems the hierarchies use, so in knowing that I know how not to be affected from them. It's a stalemate.

The need for a system is slave mentality. I don't care about either system. My agreement or disagreement with Drakes new system isn't going affect it one way or the other, the old system is not reality for me. Why would the slightly re-arranged version of the old one that Drake is offering affect me?

It will affect only those who need systems. I don't require either system. Who can't accept this. Not me. The slave programming can't accept it. Slaves KNOW that if one slave leaves the system chances are all slaves will be punished. That has been ingrained in their psyche for thousands of years. That is their programming squealing feedback to them, MAKE YOUR FELLOW SLAVE AGREE TO CONFORM OR YOU WILL BE PUNISHED!!

You see it daily this fear over not being agreed with, its a deep psyche wound. Jesus is quoted as saying "Father forgive them they KNOW not what they do." So regardless of what one thinks of Christianity you have this historical figure making note of this programming. They are not aware of what they are doing. No matter how awake they think they 'know not what they do.'

This program, this system is identified as going back at least that far.

So Drake succeeds and I don't agree or even acknowledge it exists why would that success even affect me? Who is distressed by this. Not me. Drakes fans are distressed by my lack of agreement. David Wilcocks fans are distressed over my lack of agreement because they are not self accepting and self governing. They need him to govern their emotional welfare, one slave leading another slave.

Because they have no self acceptance they have no self authority, so NEED to have a system to govern themselves. They are hardwired to be this way, they cannot change their need for system. They can't even see a system is a system is a system.

My agreement is not necessary to any of this and because the system is only created by agreement, any lack of agreement will be perceived as a threat. My agreeing to it won't change anything therefore my disagreement will not change anything.

Now say Drake changes everything. He can't change anything here on my end. Its' naturally evolving and progressing now, I don't need to wait for him to change it because I'm NOT hardwired to seek a system. Things are already changing . Who did that? Drake? Wilcocks? No. I did it.

Why this bothers people so ****ing much I've already explained. My lack of need for a system frightens them even though it doesn't affect them anymore than I affect their system.

He's meaningless and I don't find him necessary the same way I don't find OTC medicine necessary. It has nothing to do with me.

If some uncertainty creeps in I know a system is creeping, I see it, I nail it, and its gone. So is the uncertainty and the fear.

My failing, my daily failing is being too hard on them, they are quite unable to see this, they are not programmed to see it. People are not aware of their now program. So I'm literally beating a dead horse. My own program likes to think that everyone is the same as me and they are not, I like to think that people are essentially composed of the same thing I am. But apparently they are not. They need a system and I don't. That makes things obvious they are not the same as me.

I should not be so hard on people who are quite incapable of helping themselves, who are literally hard wired psychologically NOT to except themselves and are given a false feel be substitute which is 'feeling' instead of expression of freedom and empowerment.

You know on the other hand if they can't or won't accept themselves I don't need to agree with them. They can't accept themselves but I should be compelled to accept this program about themselves.

Agree with the fact you can't accept yourself? I'm not making that sort of agreement either. That's far worse than not agreeing about Drake.

Perhaps its is true and there is nothing these people can do for themselves, and my agreement or disagreement is not going to change that.


Without self acceptance there is no self authority to govern one's self. When one does that there is no need for a system.

Any system.

One then chooses their systems, re arranging them from a system into a means of organizing, authority over events. But one is aware they are organzing and not just unmindfully going into another system.

[PurpleLama]

Forgive them, 9e9, for they know not wot they do.

[9eagle9]

Help me out here because i have to KNOW what i'm forgiving. If these people are not doing anything to me there's nothing to forgive. (check).

These are not real people to me.

What am I forgiving them for , building another matrix that doesn't affect me anyway or..... or not being as real as the matrix they are attempting to build ?

Authentic people regardless if I agree with them or not, I know to be real. They make it known they do not want to be real and I am required to honor the choices they make for non-reality?

Forgive them for not being real?

There's a flaw in here; I want someone to find it.

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Forgive them, 9e9, for they know not wot they do.

[Dennis Leahy]

They are quite real. They simply did not blast open our homes, kill our families, and leave depleted uranium in their wake - in our own little world (yet), so, we can act as if they don't exist, that they have no power.

There are a very small number of people on the planet that are self empowered. It is folly to believe they will all magically leap there (ascension?) and so the vast vast vast percentage of people and animals and plants on this planet need protection from the psychopathic monsters that rule the world. When they get to your neighborhood, and your door, it will seem more real.

Dennis

{edit} Edited to add: The lack of empowerment is not a deliberate act for most sentient beings, and the non-human life forms of course cannot stop the ecocidal destruction. Most sentient beings on this planet are malnourished and in survival mode. They are unable to even entertain the notion of self-empowerment. They live under a different set of circumstances, a different reality, really, than those of us in the "developed" countries. They are not disempowered by acquiescence to the power of others, they are forced into survival mode by the actions of others. A strong case in point is the number of "subsistence farmers" who have had the land taken away from them, and were forced to survive by migrating into the cities to do whatever was necessary to get the food to feed their families - food they used to grow.

Making a decision to protect and defend oneself and immediate family, to empower oneself, rather than giving up one's power to "others" is wise. I'm convinced very few are in a position to even stop and think about it, much less make a proactive decision to get there. I didn't come to this Earth to stop at empowering myself and defending my teepee. If that is as far as someone is willing to expand the sphere of their power, well, it is certainly better than disempowering and being herded, but (IMO) not nearly the potential of expanding that sphere of power to community and beyond - to the planetary community (human and non-human life.)

[Avocadess]

Thanks for your new posts, justoneman. I totally agree with what you are saying -- and you too, Modwiz.

I am also open to considering that what Space_Ace is saying as well.

I believe that we are going into a time of great change -- and MUCH of that will be the current generations of people who have been programmed to be sheeple learning to be free human beings again -- who also take responsibility for themselves. It may seem a monumental task, but I do not feel worried about this, because to be free and to be responsible (which I define as "ability to respond") come NATURALLY to us. Cooperation is what also comes naturally to us -- and the dark cabal has twisted that positive "cooperation" to the negative of "sheeple programming."

Yes, it will be hard in some ways -- but a joy more than anything. And by the way, I do NOT think of Drake as a "savior" or even a "leader" beyond the fact that he has shown leadership capabilities and is a natural leader. What he is right now is a spokesman for what I consider to be the CREAM of humanity that are using their brains, wits and courage to free humanity while knowingly risking their lives to do so. And I cannot thank them enough.

P.S. This may be my last post on an "alternate" Drake thread because I need to be limiting my time on this board and can keep a sense of updates and flow in the "Drake: Updates, Clarifications and More" thread.

Back to work for me. Have the best day EVER..!!

[PurpleLama]

@9, I thought we were forgive them for not knowing, whatever may they do

@Dennis Before one may magically leap, first one must magically stand on one's two feet.

[Prodigal Son]

There is much I have yet to learn, but from my vantage point, it appears that the vast majority in this "Cabal", those that are not at the very top of the pyramid, have been mind-controlled. Many of the familiar players that we see in the news and in positions of power have been traumatized nearly from birth and their minds have been compartmentalized into many different alters. I would say that this is a pure violation of this alleged "free will" we're supposed to have here on planet Earth.

Under these circumstances, I don't see how any amount of "consciousness" on the part of lightworkers or the generally above-average enlightened individuals can destroy this virus that infects humanity and appears to be ready to devour its host entirely without a significant amount of off-world assistance (Divine Intervention, if you will). I say "appears" only according to the propaganda. Upon closer inspection it becomes evident that the virus is weakening from within. A good deal of this may be due to a shift in consciousness occurring within the ranks of these Satanic bloodlines...their children, the new generation, appears to be much more connected to human emotion, very much unlike the heartless and spiritless generations preceding them.

I have no doubt that this oppression will end and humanity will finally make that quantum leap. Earth is ready to "ascend". There will not be a repeat of the cataclysmic destruction of Atlantis. If Edgar Cayce says that billions of Atlanteans have incarnated at this time in an attempt to change the outcome then I believe it. If Edgar Cayce says that the prophecy in Revelation about "Satan" being "abyssed" for a "thousand years" means that these terribly destructive egos will not be allowed to incarnate on Earth during these "thousand years" (most likely symbolizing the next 26,000-year cycle), it makes perfect sense to me.

I am no longer a "Bible believer" per se, but I have seen sufficient evidence that it contains a wealth of divine knowledge, once it is filtered out from the deceptive portions. I believe this is what Paul meant when he said to "rightly divide the word of truth". One thing that had always baffled me but now makes perfect sense is that at the end of this "thousand years" of rule by "Jesus", Satan just comes right up out of his hole and immediately corrupts a gigantic portion of human souls... "as the sands of the sea". I wondered how in heck lengthy rule by "Christ" could be so ineffective! It seems now that what this could possibly mean is that we will have one more cycle of relative "evil", or let's say one more "dark night" before the "Kingdom" gets "handed back to the Father". I think what this refers to is the teaching in ALL the wisdom traditions that our eventual destination is Oneness with the Creator.

I may not be certain of many things, but one thing I know for sure is that Love will prevail in the End, and Evil will be 100 percent obliterated. Each of us right now is taking part in the Grand Plan of settling all the issues so that all the Wisdom/Knowledge that we are accumulating for the Great Library (the Akash) by fighting all this evil will result in benevolence, love , peace and justice for all time....

At least here on Planet Earth.

Perhaps after we have Mission Accomplished here we will have the option of volunteering to help our brethren in other worlds accomplish similar goals....

But hey what do I know....

[9eagle9]

That is because you are agreeing they are real. It's just how energy works. Your basic level energy practitioner would tell you that.

Everytime you pay your taxes you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you see a doctor you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you pay a traffic ticket you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you say they are real , they become real to you. So of course they can affect you!

Everytime you play follow the leader you are agreeing they are real.

You are creating your situation. And you expect me to agree with it. I am not agreeing to your prison that you are making for yourself.

Why should I?

It's YOUR situation. You think they are real and I know they are not. It's not my problem you think they are real; I didn't make you think they were real.

I don't have to agree to it. Its just emphasizing you are deciding to be unreal right along with them. That's your choice. My failing is is not understanding you don't have an alternative. I observe you don't because as much as people bitch and complain about the system they still keep agreeing to it.

Then go on some irate tirade when I simply say, Stop agreeing with the system. Fighting with the system just acknowledges its real, and accepting it acknowledges it's real. Changing the matrix just re-enforces that it's real.

When you stop building their system things should change for you. It's inevitable.

Of course they come to my door, I've had attempts made on my life. So what. Some unreal entity posing as human comes to my door. So? It' s a matrix world I should not expect I should run across some programmed mind periodically (well...24/7). They're not real. I remember what is real and they just go away. Because they aren't real. I'm no threat to them anyway, they KNOW you want a system and won't accept anything I say so why should they be offended by me?

You may not have a common frame of reference between what is real and not real. If you have only ever known and accepted is the programs, the systems and the matrixs how would YOU know what reality is?

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
They are quite real. They simply did not blast open our homes, kill our families, and leave depleted uranium in their wake - in our own little world (yet), so, we can act as if they don't exist, that they have no power.

There are a very small number of people on the planet that are self empowered. It is folly to believe they will all magically leap there (ascension?) and so the vast vast vast percentage of people and animals and plants on this planet need protection from the psychopathic monsters that rule the world. When they get to your neighborhood, and your door, it will seem more real.

Dennis

[9eagle9]

I can forgive them for not knowing. Once they are informed they know, and then still keep toddling off down the road of mental enslavement.

Then what?

You may think I'm being facetious here, but I'm serious. I really have to nail this down. Not that my forgiveness is going to make any difference to them but it may make a difference to me.

If I forgive them will be outraged because its an implication of guilt on their part.

I'll forgive myself and leave at that for now.

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
@9, I thought we were forgive them for not knowing, whatever may they do

@Dennis Before one may magically leap, first one must magically stand on one's two feet.

[sdv]

Yes, it will be hard in some ways -- but a joy more than anything. And by the way, I do NOT think of Drake as a "savior" or even a "leader" beyond the fact that he has shown leadership capabilities and is a natural leader. What he is right now is a spokesman for what I consider to be the CREAM of humanity that are using their brains, wits and courage to free humanity while knowingly risking their lives to do so. And I cannot thank them enough.

And this paragraph is the CREAM of complete deluded thinking, at best, and plain stupidity, at worst. Your definition of leadership qualities and the cream of humanity is quite astonishing (plus your understanding of brain, wits, courage and knowingly risking his life to free humanity), but not exceptional. By the way, I did listen to Drake and soon after that first interview realised that in order to keep listening would require me to switch off more than 50% of my thinking abilities. I don't do that for anyone.

Oh, by the way, I am part of humanity and I don't want (and most certainly do not need) deluded people like this saving me or freeing me from anything at all.

On that very rude note, I leave Drake material and suggest that you form a private group on this forum for Drake groupies. If you put something on a public thread then you can expect public responses.

[9eagle9]

Yeah i'm sorta pinging in on the fact that splendid leaders and people who know how to govern themselves aren't compelled to troll their audience for 2,500 dollars.

If you can't manage yourself or govern yourself, one is not very well equipped to lead others. Self management means authority over all aspects of your life including...financial. Because he's trying to raise money the same old same old way...

They do however, to steal your word, DELUDE themselves into thinking they are leaders while engaging in OBVIOUS behaviors they are not.

And the adherents proclaim to 'feeling' empowered, when they express the OBVIOUS behaviors of being anything else.

. And the reaction from their fans keeps this delusion going. Its mutual feed off.

PS. In order to keep the peace about this whole matter you will also be required to switch off the other 50 percent of your thinking abilities.

Which is essentially what his adherents are asking you to do.

then tomorrow they'll be out blathering on about how we are supposed to think for ourselves...lol. It sounded kewl so they decided to repeat it.

I'm sitting here thinking for myself and we seen what sort of reaction that brought.


The last thing Drakes adherents want is anyone thinking for themselves.

Posted by sdv (here)

Yes, it will be hard in some ways -- but a joy more than anything. And by the way, I do NOT think of Drake as a "savior" or even a "leader" beyond the fact that he has shown leadership capabilities and is a natural leader. What he is right now is a spokesman for what I consider to be the CREAM of humanity that are using their brains, wits and courage to free humanity while knowingly risking their lives to do so. And I cannot thank them enough.

And this paragraph is the CREAM of complete deluded thinking, at best, and plain stupidity, at worst. Your definition of leadership qualities and the cream of humanity is quite astonishing (plus your understanding of brain, wits, courage and knowingly risking his life to free humanity), but not exceptional. By the way, I did listen to Drake and soon after that first interview realised that in order to keep listening would require me to switch off more than 50% of my thinking abilities. I don't do that for anyone.

Oh, by the way, I am part of humanity and I don't want (and most certainly do not need) deluded people like this saving me or freeing me from anything at all.

On that very rude note, I leave Drake material and suggest that you form a private group on this forum for Drake groupies. If you put something on a public thread then you can expect public responses.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
That is because you are agreeing they are real. It's just how energy works. Your basic level energy practitioner would tell you that.

Everytime you pay your taxes you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you see a doctor you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you pay a traffic ticket you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you say they are real , they become real to you. So of course they can affect you!

Everytime you play follow the leader you are agreeing they are real.

You are creating your situation. And you expect me to agree with it. I am not agreeing to your prison that you are making for yourself.

Why should I?

It's YOUR situation. You think they are real and I know they are not. It's not my problem you think they are real; I didn't make you think they were real.

I don't have to agree to it. Its just emphasizing you are deciding to be unreal right along with them. That's your choice. My failing is is not understanding you don't have an alternative. I observe you don't because as much as people bitch and complain about the system they still keep agreeing to it.

Then go on some irate tirade when I simply say, Stop agreeing with the system. Fighting with the system just acknowledges its real, and accepting it acknowledges it's real. Changing the matrix just re-enforces that it's real.

When you stop building their system things should change for you. It's inevitable.

Of course they come to my door, I've had attempts made on my life. So what. Some unreal entity posing as human comes to my door. So? It' s a matrix world I should not expect I should run across some programmed mind periodically (well...24/7). They're not real. I remember what is real and they just go away. Because they aren't real. I'm no threat to them anyway, they KNOW you want a system and won't accept anything I say so why should they be offended by me?

You may not have a common frame of reference between what is real and not real. If you have only ever known and accepted is the programs, the systems and the matrixs how would YOU know what reality is?

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
They are quite real. They simply did not blast open our homes, kill our families, and leave depleted uranium in their wake - in our own little world (yet), so, we can act as if they don't exist, that they have no power.

There are a very small number of people on the planet that are self empowered. It is folly to believe they will all magically leap there (ascension?) and so the vast vast vast percentage of people and animals and plants on this planet need protection from the psychopathic monsters that rule the world. When they get to your neighborhood, and your door, it will seem more real.

Dennis

How does this differ from the "ostrich" viewpoint with head in the sand?

I am not talking about metaphysics or the realm of oneness. Once the conversation shifts to that, of course, there is only one, all else is illusion. With that viewpoint, it is hypocritically silly to be on an online forum, discussing with "others" that do not exist.

Me, sticking my fingers in my ears, closing my eyes, and making noise so I cannot hear anything but the noise does nothing to slow down or stop the genocide and ecocide that is going on. Me saying , "not my problem", is selfish and infantile, not enlightened. The quadrillions of life forms on this planet suffering in the pollution of mankind, directed by a few atop a pyramid of power, did not choose to be disempowered. They need a champion, a warrior - not someone with their eyes closed and their ears plugged. Is there truth in those words, or is it simply my illusion? If there is truth, then add in the billions of sentient creatures on this planet that need the assistance and the protection of the enlightened warriors. Hopefully, someday, they will each be in a position where they can choose between empowerment and disempowerment, and hopefullly they will choose wisely. For now, they are starving, poisoned, imprisoned (the "real" prisons, with metal bars), sick, and dying.

Dennis

[9eagle9]

How does it? They are after all effecting you not me.

I said once i'm not talking about metaphysics and you can tune that out as much as you like. You make it clear you no concept of what I'm talking about because of your programming. Your program doesn't allow for it. It only allows for that which supports the program, not that which kills the program and the systems it runs on.

I'm saying DITCH THE PROGRAM so you can undertand what I'm talking about. This has nothing to do with metaphysics. so you have chosen the program, let me know how that works out for you. No don't, I already know. Programs are predictable, your little reset button notion is just a means of making sure the program happens again. I'm saying no to that to. If everyone else says yes, its still not my problem.

You can't understand, you are NOT ABLE TO. You just keep relabeling it metaphyisics.. I don't care if you relabel "Bambi" into "Debbie does Dallas" its still the same program.

. I'm talking self empowerment. Self governance, self management. We are only affected by as much as we agree to any given system.

I don't people managing my body so I don't pay health insurance and don't go to doctors. I take care of my body. Its as easy as that.
What is wrong with that exactly?

The reason we have insurance companies that take us up the arse is because a space was created for them. A means of insuring that no one would have take responsibility for their actions. Slaves are not responsible for themselves, their masters are. There's your programming , there's your head --not in sand--but the shoved up the master's arse.

The sheepl have so many masters they have no idea who they are serving.


Do you pay insurance of any sort? Then you are perpetrator to the system of insurance. You PAY them to exist. That's YOUR doing, not mine. You pay the IRS, you are paying them to keep you enslaved. Who is the ostrich here again?

the first time someone rear ended another person and refused to say "Oh ****, my bad, that's all my fault, hear let me pay for that' they created a space for an insurance company to come in and make the restitution necessary to the other person because the rear -ender didn't want to take responsibility for their actions. I don't care if it was deliberate or an accident. Teh sheep do not want to be responsible, there's no self management.

People ensure themselves that accidents don't happen. They cannot bear for anything to happen that is not programmed or expected.

What are we cutting off at the knees when we ensure ourselves that no accidents will happen. Anyone?

Oh ****, now that space if filled with a legion of pseudo metaphysicians to assure everyone that nothing will happen that was unexpected.

All you have to do is look at the ptb's calendar of events and figure out when and what they are going to do. It's not exactly occult or hidden knowledge like Drake suggests. I have one sitting in my backyard you are welcome to stare at it all you want.

A legion of people making predictions so that no one will have that utterly fearful notion that something might happen that is out of their control. Hello you don't have any control in the first place...lol.

You can't even manage yourself but you think you have control over something else. Who is the ostrich again?

Now the sheeple are caught in the insurance game. You can't get out of it. The moment you gave up responsibility you gave up your power. Then you have to pay for it. Responsibility only means the ABILITY to respond to something. Not metaphysics, how one responds to any given situation.

So you think responsiblity is metaphysics so that just shows me how far gone the sheep are. Still not my problem. Its your choice.

Metaphysics occurs only AFTER self management is undertaken. Not before. It occurs afterwards. You can't express yourself on a metaphysical level then you have no self management. That's your problem.

You're trying to make it my problem and I'm just saying No. Not my problem its YOUR problem. I Know what my problems are, you don't know what yours is and its actually YOU.

It's easier to blame 'them', right?

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
That is because you are agreeing they are real. It's just how energy works. Your basic level energy practitioner would tell you that.

Everytime you pay your taxes you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you see a doctor you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you pay a traffic ticket you are agreeing they are real.

Everytime you say they are real , they become real to you. So of course they can affect you!

Everytime you play follow the leader you are agreeing they are real.

You are creating your situation. And you expect me to agree with it. I am not agreeing to your prison that you are making for yourself.

Why should I?

It's YOUR situation. You think they are real and I know they are not. It's not my problem you think they are real; I didn't make you think they were real.

I don't have to agree to it. Its just emphasizing you are deciding to be unreal right along with them. That's your choice. My failing is is not understanding you don't have an alternative. I observe you don't because as much as people bitch and complain about the system they still keep agreeing to it.

Then go on some irate tirade when I simply say, Stop agreeing with the system. Fighting with the system just acknowledges its real, and accepting it acknowledges it's real. Changing the matrix just re-enforces that it's real.

When you stop building their system things should change for you. It's inevitable.

Of course they come to my door, I've had attempts made on my life. So what. Some unreal entity posing as human comes to my door. So? It' s a matrix world I should not expect I should run across some programmed mind periodically (well...24/7). They're not real. I remember what is real and they just go away. Because they aren't real. I'm no threat to them anyway, they KNOW you want a system and won't accept anything I say so why should they be offended by me?

You may not have a common frame of reference between what is real and not real. If you have only ever known and accepted is the programs, the systems and the matrixs how would YOU know what reality is?

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
They are quite real. They simply did not blast open our homes, kill our families, and leave depleted uranium in their wake - in our own little world (yet), so, we can act as if they don't exist, that they have no power.

There are a very small number of people on the planet that are self empowered. It is folly to believe they will all magically leap there (ascension?) and so the vast vast vast percentage of people and animals and plants on this planet need protection from the psychopathic monsters that rule the world. When they get to your neighborhood, and your door, it will seem more real.

Dennis

How does this differ from the "ostrich" viewpoint with head in the sand?

I am not talking about metaphysics or the realm of oneness. Once the conversation shifts to that, of course, there is only one, all else is illusion. With that viewpoint, it is hypocritically silly to be on an online forum, discussing with "others" that do not exist.

Me, sticking my fingers in my ears, closing my eyes, and making noise so I cannot hear anything but the noise does nothing to slow down or stop the genocide and ecocide that is going on. Me saying , "not my problem", is selfish and infantile, not enlightened. The quadrillions of life forms on this planet suffering in the pollution of mankind, directed by a few atop a pyramid of power, did not choose to be disempowered. They need a champion, a warrior - not someone with their eyes closed and their ears plugged. Is there truth in those words, or is it simply my illusion? If there is truth, then add in the billions of sentient creatures on this planet that need the assistance and the protection of the enlightened warriors. Hopefully, someday, they will each be in a position where they can choose between empowerment and disempowerment, and hopefullly they will choose wisely. For now, they are starving, poisoned, imprisoned (the "real" prisons, with metal bars), sick, and dying.

Dennis

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I'm not closing my eyes, I'm more aware of what is bothering you than you are.

Which is you.

[Maia Gabrial]

I found his "jew york times" pun to be in bad taste.

I guess he can say it because he is one....

[Mozart]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

I don't have to agree to it. Its just emphasizing you are deciding to be unreal right along with them. That's your choice. My failing is is not understanding you don't have an alternative. I observe you don't because as much as people bitch and complain about the system they still keep agreeing to it.

9eagle9, judging from your "about me" info, it looks like that you'd be a really fun mate to hang out with in nature, in the forests, hiking, camping, fishing, etc.


I'm a retired forest ecologist and I totally love nature. She's (nature) far more real than any of these artificial 'laws' and systems of 'laws' that we create / allow to "govern" us, i.e., harass, tax, arrest, etc, us to death, yes?


Anyway, 9eagle9, do you:

1) Have a driver license?

2) Have a Social Security number?

3) Turned in 1040 Label IRS tax forms?

4) Registered to vote?

5) Accept snail mail at an address?

6) Have a birth cert?


This is a super-shortened list of the numerous traps into the existing, artificial system of 'laws' that has been allowed to spring into artificial existence via the ignorance of the stupid peons and the deceptive practices of the dark bastard elites. A longer list would have dozens of traps.


~Mozart

[Kimberley]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
For awhile now, people have been mocking his credibility, but it's only a matter of time when we'll see if he's been telling the truth....

I just want to add, IMHO, I feel that Ben is always telling the "truth" to the best of his discernment of information. The important thing to remember is I personally have believed information that was not correct and that was correct... and I bet that happens for all of us...

Ben & I and many others are all doing our best to filter what resonates true for us or not... we all have different filters. I personally get it "right" for me 95% of the time, however it took 4 decades for me to trust my own inner knowing and then I still get it incorrectly 5% of the time.

So yes I agree time will tell... and I suggest we stop shooting the messengers trying their best to share to the best of their discernment "THE TRUTH"

There are so many of us doing our best to filter through the information being sent to us here in the information age.... It is a lot to keep up with , and I so thank all of us that are filtering through all of the information and sharing what feels to have validity...

Keep on keepin on my dear friends in Avalon!!!

Much love!!

[crosby]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Central-Banks

interesting information just now coming through. thought you all might be interested to see.
regards, corson