Feminism is a NWO agenda to split the families

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Neptun (here)

Posted by bluestflame (here)
yes the re-emergence of the divine feminine is not to disempower men but to restore the energetic balance in both women AND men

If women are feminine, then I don't have a problem with them. It is only if they are feminists and use victim manipulation + masculinity to grab power and dis-empower men, I get irritated.

I love feminine women. The more they are themselves in their femininity the better.

I am confused by the term "Feminine". What is the meaning of that word to you? In the same vein, what is the meaning of the word masculine? What is an woman's actions that make her not feminine and what are the actions of a man that make him not masculine?

[wynderer]

Neptun --

i have a different sort of relationship w/the Reptilian in my life, being an attractive female -- i don't remember all my abductions, nor do i want to

i have my own ideas -- likely ties to memories -- of how the Reptilians perceive planet Earth -- they want to turn her into a barren sterile planet to be used as one of many such battle stations in their expanding empire

& perhaps from their p.o.v., a barren planet is more aesthetically pleasing

re 'Those that survive our attack are worthy to live w/us' -- they admire & respect a good warrior /warrioress, & the use of one's mental abilities for survival

i've posted elsewhere that i can see & respect these qualities in them, also, & that they have a physical beauty of their own

& i understand that i was being honored by the invitation, respectfully & courteously offered, to join them

as the new energies increase, more & more memories of my 5D home are surfacing -- i am weary of doing battle

wyn

Posted by Neptun (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
Hi Neptun--

i posted a link to a Vigilant Citizen article about the heavy promotion of Humans as robots or as Human/robot hybrids in the massmedia directed at young people -- music videos especially-- he also goes into the 'sexbot' promotion

[link on clones & hybrids thread]

they're having fun trying all different kinds of ways to turn Humans into hive-mind /soul-less/sex-less clones

this world is getting really weird

wyn

Indeed. When I talk with the dark ones, they explain to me they are not seeing me(us) that are awake as the enemy and they complain about the weak humans and how they don't want to share the same earth with them.

I was told"those that survive our attack are worthy to live with us"

I believe, they see themselves as an immune-system of the host earth and it's their job to clean the earth for those self destructive beings that are not developing themselves(cancer). They manipulate those that allow to be manipulated into self destruction.

A dark Rothschild told me this:
("testers"the elite)

"The biggest question that humanity has to answer for itself is "Are we cancer or are we medicine?", and not "Where is God?" So far we share more with cancer cells, we're programmed to proliferate and destroy our host (earth). So maybe that little group of "testers" is just functioning as medicine?"

[Unified Serenity]

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Posted by Neptun (here)

You probably have some strong reasons not to trust women and you probably have huge fears of them.

I think, it is better to deal with the fear and turn the fear around, so it serves you instead of dragging you down. Why not exploring this fear and really observe it for some time to understand it better. When fear is confronted and exposed it often goes away. It is if we try to ignore it, it will grow bigger.

I have the fear of a woman stealing(with the blessings of the elite's courts) what little money I have and making false allegations against me. I have seen it happen to my online male friends. Read the misandry bubble article and you will understand. The elites turned women against men(as you know) and they also created anti-male laws that "empower" women to screw over men. I have discussed robogirls on other forums and many men agree it's a great idea that will provide lonely men with safe(no worries about false allegations), beautiful(perfect "10" in looks), loving(programmed to love), affordable(a fraction the cost of supporting a human woman), traditional(can actually cook and clean) women substitutes that look/act human. It will also ensure that those feminist who need men like a fish needs a bike get their wish and fend for themselves. Feminists will lose their power and control over men when men stop playing the game and just walk away and towards substitutes, such as robogirls.

Well, this sounds very much like a neandrathal pounding his very beefy chest saying "Me man, you woman. Cook woman. Clean woman. Spread your legs woman. Get me drink woman." Where is the relationship? It sounds very much to me that you are afraid of losing your power to a real woman who has a brain, desires, thoughts, and ideas of her own and would dare to express them or desire anything beyond a roof over her head, food provided for her and to be of service to you no matter her feelings. Yes, women did, do, and probably always will reject and push back from that mentality.

To me, love means caring for one another and seeking each others best all the time. I am a romantic at heart. I like a protective male image as a husband, but not a domineering one. I see a man taking a young wife as like picking a rose blossom. If that blossom actually blooms and develops it's own unique and beautiful fragrance then he has loved and cared for it, but if it is wilted and dry, dying on the vine, then he has not and that is sadly what most women do feel. There was an interesting reaction to the movie "Horse Whisperer" years ago. Women cried while watching the movie as they saw a man not break a beautiful strong spirited horse, but came to agreement with it. He nurtured that relationship and in so doing the horse was devoted to him. I think many women have felt that men approach them with the need to break them and dominate them. When a different approach would yield much sweeter fruit.

[Neptun]

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Posted by Neptun (here)

Posted by bluestflame (here)
yes the re-emergence of the divine feminine is not to disempower men but to restore the energetic balance in both women AND men

If women are feminine, then I don't have a problem with them. It is only if they are feminists and use victim manipulation + masculinity to grab power and dis-empower men, I get irritated.

I love feminine women. The more they are themselves in their femininity the better.

I am confused by the term "Feminine". What is the meaning of that word to you? In the same vein, what is the meaning of the word masculine? What is an woman's actions that make her not feminine and what are the actions of a man that make him not masculine?

Feminine is creative, spiritual, sensitive, multitasking, soft, playful, humble, self confidence, supportive, You know a woman where you automatically treat her like a princess without her asking for it. She is a type that make you open her door for her and protect her etc.

Masculine is more aggressive, dominate, leader type, big goals, focus, logic, self esteem, strong emotions, passion etc.

We all have feminine and masculine energies. Men with too much femininity like metrosexuals or women that are masculine like feminist are in disharmony.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Neptun (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)

Posted by bluestflame (here)
yes the re-emergence of the divine feminine is not to disempower men but to restore the energetic balance in both women AND men

If women are feminine, then I don't have a problem with them. It is only if they are feminists and use victim manipulation + masculinity to grab power and dis-empower men, I get irritated.

I love feminine women. The more they are themselves in their femininity the better.

I am confused by the term "Feminine". What is the meaning of that word to you? In the same vein, what is the meaning of the word masculine? What is an woman's actions that make her not feminine and what are the actions of a man that make him not masculine?

Feminine is creative, spiritual, sensitive, multitasking, soft, playful, humble, self confidence, supportive, You know a woman where you automatically treat her like a princess without her asking for it. She is a type that make you open her door for her and protect her etc.

Masculine is more aggressive, dominate, leader type, big goals, focus, logic, self esteem, strong emotions, passion etc.

We all have feminine and masculine energies. Men with too much femininity like metrosexuals or women that are masculine like feminist are in disharmony.

You know, I am the complete wrong woman to be saying this crap to. I was born a very strong minded, competitive, thinking, passionate, playful, creative scorpio. I am a female. By definition of being a female I am feminine. I never liked playing house, dolls, having tea parties, wearing dresses, pretending to be a pin up doll in my mothers clothes or anything that most consider traditional girl stuff. I wore jeans, did not know I was supposed to wear a shirt until I was at least 7 yrs old, rode horses like the wind, had pet snakes, lizzards, built forts, cut down trees, chopped wood, had the best tonka trucks in the neigborhood, competed with boys all the time, was the only girl on the boy's baseball team and beat the coaches son out for second base, never lost a sport to a male in my life and I played tennis, basketball, volleyball, ran cross country, and was the secret weapon on the co-ed football team as the quarter-back. I was ungodly strong "for a girl" and thought nothing of picking up a couple hundred pounds while horse shoeing or any other activity.

Let's see, I can lay wood floors, put up sheet rock, install my own ceiling fans, change the brakes on my vehicle and do nearly anything mechanical if I have the manual. I carve wood, shoot guns from rifles, shotguns and pistols. My son cannot imagine me needing a man to do something for me, but knows equally well that I truly appreciate it when a man does open a door for me, helps me carry in the groceries, and offers to help with a project or chore. So, maybe I am not the typical girl, but I have never been able to be anyone other than who I am, and that is a loving, passionate, thinking woman who by definition is feminine, just not traditional.

[Neptun]

wynderer,

I think the reptilians have some good values like strength, power, not allowing to be dominated, understand life pushes us around and we have to learn from the experience instead of being a victim. Humans can learn allot from the reptilians.

The dark ones seem to hate the weak. In their world it is either slave or master and a slave has to be pushed around allot to get hardened and strong enough so he/she can be master one day.

It is interesting to speak with reptilians with love, caring, empathy, softness, not dominating them but not allowing to be dominated. They don't know how to handle it and they notice the power in it that overpower them without making them feel like a slave. They have a heavy amour and the softness goes right through and directly to their heart what makes them feel strong emotions.

I think they say it perfectly in their manipulation guide:
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/

The Artificial Womb
From the time a person leaves its mother's womb, its every effort is directed towards building, maintaining, and withdrawing into artificial wombs, various sorts of substitute protective devices or shells.

The objective of these artificial wombs is to provide a stable environment for both stable and unstable activity; to provide a shelter for the evolutionary processes of growth and maturity - i.e., survival; to provide security for freedom and to provide defensive protection for offensive activity.

This is equally true of both the general public and the elite. However, there is a definite difference in the way each of these classes go about the solution of problems.
The Political Structure of a Nation - Dependency
The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a political structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.

This public demand is incredible, so the human god, the politician, meets incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and delivering nothing. So who is the bigger liar? the public? or the "godfather"?

This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public.
Action/Offense
Most people want to be able to subdue and/or kill other human beings which disturb their daily lives, but they do not want to have to cope with the moral and religious issues which such an overt act on their part might raise. Therefore, they assign the dirty work to others (including their own children) so as to keep the blood off their hands. They rave about the humane treatment of animals and then sit down to a delicious hamburger from a whitewashed slaughterhouse down the street and out of sight. But even more hypocritical, they pay taxes to finance a professional association of hit men collectively called politicians, and then complain about corruption in government.
Responsibility
Again, most people want to be free to do the things (to explore, etc.) but they are afraid to fail.

The fear of failure is manifested in irresponsibility, and especially in delegating those personal responsibilities to others where success is uncertain or carries possible or created liabilities (law) which the person is not prepared to accept. They want authority (root word - "author"), but they will not accept responsibility or liability. So they hire politicians to face reality for them.
Summary
The people hire the politicians so that the people can:

obtain security without managing it.
obtain action without thinking about it.
inflict theft, injury, and death upon others without having to contemplate either life or death.
avoid responsibility for their own intentions.
obtain the benefits of reality and science without exerting themselves in the discipline of facing or learning either of these things.

They give the politicians the power to create and manage a war machine to:

provide for the survival of the nation/womb.
prevent encroachment of anything upon the nation/womb.
destroy the enemy who threatens the nation/womb.
destroy those citizens of their own country who do not conform for the sake of stability of the nation/womb.

Politicians hold many quasi-military jobs, the lowest being the police which are soldiers, the attorneys and C.P.A.s next who are spies and saboteurs (licensed), and the judges who shout orders and run the closed union military shop for whatever the market will bear. The generals are industrialists. The "presidential" level of commander-in-chief is shared by the international bankers. The people know that they have created this farce and financed it with their own taxes (consent), but they would rather knuckle under than be the hypocrite.

Thus, a nation becomes divided into two very distinct parts, a docile sub-nation [great silent majority] and a political sub-nation. The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile sub-nation, tolerates it, and leaches its substance until it grows strong enough to detach itself and then devour its parent.

[wynderer]

Unified Serenity -- you go, girl

all that you say of yourself -- these are all that will be lost in Human women if what is going on is not stopped

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
You know, I am the complete wrong woman to be saying this crap to. I was born a very strong minded, competitive, thinking, passionate, playful, creative scorpio. I am a female. By definition of being a female I am feminine. I never liked playing house, dolls, having tea parties, wearing dresses, pretending to be a pin up doll in my mothers clothes or anything that most consider traditional girl stuff. I wore jeans, did not know I was supposed to wear a shirt until I was at least 7 yrs old, road horses like the wind, had pet snakes, lizzards, built forts, cut down trees, chopped wood, had the best tonka trucks in the neigborhood, competed with boys all the time, was the only girl on the boy's baseball team and beat the coaches son out for second base, never lost a sport to a male in my life and I played tennis, basketball, volleyball, ran cross country, and was the secret weapon on the co-ed football team as the quarter-back. I was ungodly strong "for a girl" and thought nothing of picking up a couple hundred pounds while horse shoeing or any other activity.

Let's see, I can lay wood floors, put up sheet rock, install my own ceiling fans, change the brakes on my vehicle and do nearly anything mechanical if I have the manual. I carve wood, shoot guns from rifles, shotguns and pistols. My son cannot imagine me needing a man to do something for me, but knows equally well that I truly appreciate it when a man does open a door for me, helps me carry in the groceries, and offers to help with a project or chore. So, maybe I am not the typical girl, but I have never been able to be anyone other than who I am, and that is a loving, passionate, thinking woman who by definition is feminine, just not traditional.

[panopticon]

Posted by Neptun (here)
Feminine is creative, spiritual, sensitive, multitasking, soft, playful, humble, self confidence, supportive, You know a woman where you automatically treat her like a princess without her asking for it. She is a type that make you open her door for her and protect her etc.
Masculine is more aggressive, dominate, leader type, big goals, focus, logic, self esteem, strong emotions, passion etc.
We all have feminine and masculine energies. Men with too much femininity like metrosexuals or women that are masculine like feminist are in disharmony.

Thank you for explaining the stereotypes. Very helpful. Very limiting. Very ridiculous.

[wynderer]

i don't think these are stereotypes -- men have superior upper body strength, for one

i remember in one of Alex Collier's videos, he said specifically to the men, 'You are heroes ! ' & encouraged men to hold to that & not be beaten down

Posted by panopticon (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)
Feminine is creative, spiritual, sensitive, multitasking, soft, playful, humble, self confidence, supportive, You know a woman where you automatically treat her like a princess without her asking for it. She is a type that make you open her door for her and protect her etc.
Masculine is more aggressive, dominate, leader type, big goals, focus, logic, self esteem, strong emotions, passion etc.
We all have feminine and masculine energies. Men with too much femininity like metrosexuals or women that are masculine like feminist are in disharmony.

Thank you for explaining the stereotypes. Very helpful. Very limiting. Very ridiculous.

[Neptun]

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Posted by bluestflame (here)
yes the re-emergence of the divine feminine is not to disempower men but to restore the energetic balance in both women AND men

If women are feminine, then I don't have a problem with them. It is only if they are feminists and use victim manipulation + masculinity to grab power and dis-empower men, I get irritated.

I love feminine women. The more they are themselves in their femininity the better.

I am confused by the term "Feminine". What is the meaning of that word to you? In the same vein, what is the meaning of the word masculine? What is an woman's actions that make her not feminine and what are the actions of a man that make him not masculine?

Feminine is creative, spiritual, sensitive, multitasking, soft, playful, humble, self confidence, supportive, You know a woman where you automatically treat her like a princess without her asking for it. She is a type that make you open her door for her and protect her etc.

Masculine is more aggressive, dominate, leader type, big goals, focus, logic, self esteem, strong emotions, passion etc.

We all have feminine and masculine energies. Men with too much femininity like metrosexuals or women that are masculine like feminist are in disharmony.

You know, I am the complete wrong woman to be saying this crap to. I was born a very strong minded, competitive, thinking, passionate, playful, creative scorpio. I am a female. By definition of being a female I am feminine. I never liked playing house, dolls, having tea parties, wearing dresses, pretending to be a pin up doll in my mothers clothes or anything that most consider traditional girl stuff. I wore jeans, did not know I was supposed to wear a shirt until I was at least 7 yrs old, rode horses like the wind, had pet snakes, lizzards, built forts, cut down trees, chopped wood, had the best tonka trucks in the neigborhood, competed with boys all the time, was the only girl on the boy's baseball team and beat the coaches son out for second base, never lost a sport to a male in my life and I played tennis, basketball, volleyball, ran cross country, and was the secret weapon on the co-ed football team as the quarter-back. I was ungodly strong "for a girl" and thought nothing of picking up a couple hundred pounds while horse shoeing or any other activity.

Let's see, I can lay wood floors, put up sheet rock, install my own ceiling fans, change the brakes on my vehicle and do nearly anything mechanical if I have the manual. I carve wood, shoot guns from rifles, shotguns and pistols. My son cannot imagine me needing a man to do something for me, but knows equally well that I truly appreciate it when a man does open a door for me, helps me carry in the groceries, and offers to help with a project or chore. So, maybe I am not the typical girl, but I have never been able to be anyone other than who I am, and that is a loving, passionate, thinking woman who by definition is feminine, just not traditional.

Don't misunderstand me. There is nothing wrong about you or how you live. If it makes you feel happy, keep going.

Your son said it perfectly. You don't need a man.

You have lots of masculine qualities. But why do you think masculinity is better than femininity?

I don't find masculine women attractive, because I like the opposite of myself, otherwise I would feel like a gay.

You don't leave much room to be forfilled by a masculine man, because you have much of his qualities. You either have to find a metetro sexual or become a lesbian to experience the yin/yang harmony.

I'm sure most of the men you have known have not really felt like "real men". They somehow lack something and they have to be extreme masculine to make you feel like a woman and it probably makes you feel lonely and sad sometimes.

[Unified Serenity]

Men only have superior upper body strength if women don't develop themselves physically and if men do develop themselves physically it comes easier for them, but I am one of those women that I guess due to my athleticism put me in a whole different category. Most women do not put themselves into physically demanding jobs. Most women though if they wanted to could do most of the physical work that men do, but why bother when we will only be harassed by the men who feel threatened and be called unkind names for doing something we like. Hell, men still get paid more on average for doing the exact same work as women.

Oh, and here is another statistic, women own less than 1% of the land on earth. Men when out of sync spiritually take advantage of women and after enough time passed and we evolved enough societally that we decided not to be victims of male inferiority complexes, got jobs and had a means to ensure our later years would not be spent in utter poverty. It is a proven fact that when men get married their standard of living goes up and they are happier whole women's goes down. It is also true that in MOST divorce cases women end up in poverty and men do not. Not always of course, but most of the time. Men use the children as collateral to keep the woman from taking the marital assets. They threaten to sue for custody and the women not bearing the loss of her children give up everything if he will not press for custody. Some women are not good mothers and should never get custody, but most women will do all they can for their children. I am not against men and I am not a feminist. I can simply see that if people had done the right thing then the pendulum would not have swung so far our of balance.

It's just like the labor market. In the early 1900's had managers not been selfish greedy bastards then unions would not have been needed. Yet, eventually unions demanded too much and pushed to far and the businesses left, closed shop, moved to china or some other country where demands from labor were less.

A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.

A man without a woman is terribly horny.


I know very sexist on my part, and I was saying it tongue in cheek. I have been blessed with knowing a handful of very blessed couples where the balance was perfect and beautiful to witness. Sadly, I think all the men I would ever be attracted to are over 75 yrs old and come from a generation where men were honorable, protective, and appreciated a loving wife who did care for them and the family.

[Neptun]

Unified Serenity,

Regarding Space_Ace and his robot woman concept.

I do understand why he feels this way. What is the core problem is because he has experienced lots of women that kicked him down and made him feel overpowered. We men really hate that more than death. So I understand he feels the manipulative women are a threat to him and his selfworth.

A real woman would support him and not kick him in his mentally balls all the time.

Women are often stronger than men mentally and women that are insecure about themselves can be very attacking mentally that would be equal to a guy beating a woman because he can and to blow off some steam.

It is mental violence! And the only crisis-center we men have is the local bar.

[panopticon]

G'day Neptun,

Again I would point out you:

• Asked for examples. We supplied them. You never commented.
• Asked for information. It was supplied. You never commented.

So you run down a Century and a half of female struggle for equality because you appear scared of strong women taking over and your vision of how women are "supposed" to behave (which appears to be subservient to male domination) is challenged by them. Reminds me of the old Christian ("spare rib") rhetoric.

You are correct I shouldn't have used the "pop" terminology of "1%ers" as it is probably more like "0.0001%ers" (ie 7000 persons [meaning legal trade worthy entities not real living breathing individuals]).
What I should have done was said "oligarchs and corporation run by psychopaths and interest groups bent on centralisation of Money, Control and Power in their hands".

But that would have only been a part of the picture now wouldn't it.
There are multiple layers and your little vendetta against the feminist movement really seems more based on a particular agenda then anything approaching a debatable position.

Again, you have not addressed anything I've said or any of the information I, or anyone else who doesn't agree with your position, supplied other than to post a few Youtube videos, talk about iguana's and spout some [almost quaint] anti-feminist rhetoric.
Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[Unified Serenity]

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Posted by bluestflame (here)
yes the re-emergence of the divine feminine is not to disempower men but to restore the energetic balance in both women AND men

If women are feminine, then I don't have a problem with them. It is only if they are feminists and use victim manipulation + masculinity to grab power and dis-empower men, I get irritated.

I love feminine women. The more they are themselves in their femininity the better.

I am confused by the term "Feminine". What is the meaning of that word to you? In the same vein, what is the meaning of the word masculine? What is an woman's actions that make her not feminine and what are the actions of a man that make him not masculine?

Feminine is creative, spiritual, sensitive, multitasking, soft, playful, humble, self confidence, supportive, You know a woman where you automatically treat her like a princess without her asking for it. She is a type that make you open her door for her and protect her etc.

Masculine is more aggressive, dominate, leader type, big goals, focus, logic, self esteem, strong emotions, passion etc.

We all have feminine and masculine energies. Men with too much femininity like metrosexuals or women that are masculine like feminist are in disharmony.

You know, I am the complete wrong woman to be saying this crap to. I was born a very strong minded, competitive, thinking, passionate, playful, creative scorpio. I am a female. By definition of being a female I am feminine. I never liked playing house, dolls, having tea parties, wearing dresses, pretending to be a pin up doll in my mothers clothes or anything that most consider traditional girl stuff. I wore jeans, did not know I was supposed to wear a shirt until I was at least 7 yrs old, rode horses like the wind, had pet snakes, lizzards, built forts, cut down trees, chopped wood, had the best tonka trucks in the neigborhood, competed with boys all the time, was the only girl on the boy's baseball team and beat the coaches son out for second base, never lost a sport to a male in my life and I played tennis, basketball, volleyball, ran cross country, and was the secret weapon on the co-ed football team as the quarter-back. I was ungodly strong "for a girl" and thought nothing of picking up a couple hundred pounds while horse shoeing or any other activity.

Let's see, I can lay wood floors, put up sheet rock, install my own ceiling fans, change the brakes on my vehicle and do nearly anything mechanical if I have the manual. I carve wood, shoot guns from rifles, shotguns and pistols. My son cannot imagine me needing a man to do something for me, but knows equally well that I truly appreciate it when a man does open a door for me, helps me carry in the groceries, and offers to help with a project or chore. So, maybe I am not the typical girl, but I have never been able to be anyone other than who I am, and that is a loving, passionate, thinking woman who by definition is feminine, just not traditional.

Don't misunderstand me. There is nothing wrong about you or how you live. If it makes you feel happy, keep going.

Your son said it perfectly. You don't need a man.

You have lots of masculine qualities. But why do you think masculinity is better than femininity?

I don't find masculine women attractive, because I like the opposite of myself, otherwise I would feel like a gay.

You don't leave much room to be forfilled by a masculine man, because you have much of his qualities. You either have to find a metetro sexual or become a lesbian to experience the yin/yang harmony.

I'm sure most of the men you have known have not really felt like "real men". They somehow lack something and they have to be extreme masculine to make you feel like a woman and it probably makes you feel lonely and sad sometimes.

Why do you think I think masculine is better? I am who I am. I am not masculine. The point is the stereotypes you keep talking about limit each human from being just who they are. Some men find total happiness in "feminine" roles, and I find it sad they are rejected by society and treated like lepers. Of course they have issues. Most men I have known have had real self confidence issues. Nothing attracts me more to a man than one who knows who he is, can take care of himself, and is not intimidated by me. There is no macho "I'll show you bitch who is stronger" attitude. It's not about strength to me. It's about true self confidence and not needing a mommy to take care of them. I have been with both men and women. I divorced my husband because he could not handle my strength and tried to break me and control me. In therapy, the counselor with over 20,000 hours experience said she had never met a more controlling man in her life and could not fathom how I had survived and not gotten on anti-depressants. I told her that I simply never bought into his crap, and I still don't.

Yes, I tend to intimidate men, but that's not my problem. I gave up on men, and I am with a woman now. There is no "yin/yang" energy issue. I simply accept her as she is, and no, she is not overly girly as you like to stereotype women. She is more androgynous if you need a label. I simply like her company, and we laugh a lot. I get to live with my best friend, share life with her, and hopefully grow very old together.

[Neptun]

Unified Serenity,

I think you and Space Ace are extremely scared of the opposite sex.

Space Ace wants to avoid women or get a robot woman and you have overpowered men by being super masculine so there is no room for a man to hurt you in any way and overcome the sex and intimacy need by living with a woman.

Both of you have a choice. Will you allow your fear of the opposite sex control your life or will you face the fear?

First step is to accept you are afraid and then explore the fear and really look at it from all sides and overcome the fear one baby step at the time.

We all have our fears to overcome. I think that is one of the challenges of life.

Say this to yourself as a mantra: I will face my fears and not lie to myself.

[panopticon]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I simply accept her as she is, and no, she is not overly girly as you like to stereotype women. She is more androgynous if you need a label. I simply like her company, and we laugh a lot. I get to live with my best friend, share life with her, and hopefully grow very old together.

Good for you US. Good for you.
A relationship is about relating and being happy with each other. Laughter is always a great sign.
We might have our differences now and again but I truly am happy for you.
Congratulations.
Panopticon

[Neptun]

panopticon,

You keep saying I didn't answer you. I did.

The moment you are ready to face your fears and want to take responsibility instead of blaming evil men and corporations, then we can continue.

But you are with all due respect, very good at bombardment others and keep repeating the same lie you believe yourself why you and women are victims. It is easier to feel like a victim than to take responsibility.

I don't care if you wish to continue to be a victim. It is your life not mine. The only one that is suffering is you.

Victim or freedom?

[Neptun]

I am a type that see right through people, so if you like to lie to yourself and not face the core problems, then I'm not the right one to communicate with.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Neptun (here)
Unified Serenity,

I think you and Space Ace are extremely scared of the opposite sex.

Space Ace wants to avoid women or get a robot woman and you have overpowered men by being super masculine so there is no room for a man to hurt you in any way and overcome the sex and intimacy need by living with a woman.

Both of you have a choice. Will you allow your fear of the opposite sex control your life or will you face the fear?

First step is to accept you are afraid and then explore the fear and really look at it from all sides and overcome the fear one baby step at the time.

We all have our fears to overcome. I think that is one of the challenges of life.

Say this to yourself as a mantra: I will face my fears and not lie to myself.

So, you think you know I am afraid of men? I am not afraid of men persay. I am not willing to have a man control me, dictate how I should be, what I should do, and make my life hell walking on eggshells hoping for his approval. I told you the kind of men I like and am attracted to. Unfortunately, they all seem to be from a different generation. I have never met one of my generation that I felt was truly comfortable enough with himself and didn't want to control me and use me for HIS needs. I think most men today are grown up irresponsible little boys. I find it pretty funny that you think I am lying to myself when I am one of the most self honest people you will come across. I know my weaknesses and faults very well and have commented on them on this forum in the past.

Men and women are in a designed sexist struggle today, and unless and until men start treating women as equals it is not going to change. We don't all have to fit into stereotypical roles, that is my main point. I once read a great piece on how an indian tribe did not have an issue with a male who wanted to do the more female traditional jobs in the tribe. They did not treat him as less than a man or make fun of him. He liked caring for the children, making pottery, weaving the loom etc.. For some reason people are very threatened by others who do not fit into their paradigm of proper roles. How could I have had any problems with males as a little child? I was who I was. I gravitated to the activities I liked. I liked the traditional "boy" games and activities. Nothing bored me more than to be stuck with a bunch of girls yakking and playing house. I think I would have rather had bamboo shoved up my nails.

[Neptun]

Unified Serenity,

It takes 2 to a tango. The moment you allow a man to be a man, then he will live up to it.

Same thing with when we men treat women like real women, they will treat us like real men back.

The biggest question is. Do you expect the mirror to change before you will change or do you change first?