Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[StarDust]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Sure sounds like the NESARA 'prosperity packages', and the revaluation of the Dinar.



(When will people learn?!)

Is this the real Bill Ryan? Or the surrogate 'Bill Ryan' that has been posting on other threads?

From the 'hat eating' thread:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
Funny thread

I hope Bill reads it.

Bill has read it... and has reassured his hat that it's in no danger whatsoever.

Note the third person perspective of the response.

[Hervé]

Best summary analysis I have run into in my meanderings:


In 2007 the EU prevented a nuclear war with Iran by pressuring Bush with potential war crimes like torture. That war was a high weapon industry priority, so in 2008 the banksters started the greatest economic crisis since the 30’s.

In 2009 the EU announced an investigation that exposed the greatest health care (Big Pharma) fraud in history. http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-and-%E2%80%9Cpandemic%E2%80%9D-scandal/

So in 2010 the banksters withdrew investments from Europe to cause a relative stable economy to shake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_European_sovereign_debt_crisis Not because we performed bad but because it dropped S & P ratings and poor countries had to pay insurmountable interests (apart from other banking fraud).

Now we attack Murdock for his war mongering (and potentially expose illegal acts of Homeland Security) so they drop their own ratings because if America becomes a liability, the rates will go up thus debts skyrocket, can’t be repaid and we’ll have another global crisis.

So we’ll have to fight the banksters again to turn this threat into our favour.

[r3divory]

I just read something and want to post it here, do I just post the link? I want to follow the rules of the forum and this is my first post.

[karelia]

Posted by r3divory (here)
I just read something and want to post it here, do I just post the link? I want to follow the rules of the forum and this is my first post.

Welcome to Avalon!

Post the link, yes, and a little summary. Thanks.

[r3divory]

This is an article from king world news. It's an interview with Hugo Salinas Price regarding the Elites' plan to control the world via socialism. I'm not sure if this is the thread to post it in, but this is the thread I am familiar with. If it needs to be moved or does not belong here just let me know and I will be more mindful when where I place my posts. Thank you for your patience and understanding to a newbie.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldne...the_World.html

[Molope]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Sure sounds like the NESARA 'prosperity packages', and the revaluation of the Dinar.



(When will people learn?!)

Is this the real Bill Ryan? Or the surrogate 'Bill Ryan' that has been posting on other threads?

From the 'hat eating' thread:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
Funny thread

I hope Bill reads it.

Bill has read it... and has reassured his hat that it's in no danger whatsoever.

Note the third person perspective of the response.

I dont see a change of him or his attitude hes just posting his opinion in your first quote and on the second its just a normal response they said Bill ryan will eat his hat and etc and he replied "Bill as read it" on 3rd person not as nothing extrange but like keeping the flow of the conversation.

Thanks.

[StarDust]

As a reminder, Drake will be doing his weekly thursday show this afternoon:

Thurs 3-5pm PST w/ Randy, Deatra, Sam & Drake - VIA Free Thinking Radio: http://freethinkingradio.com/

Recorded shows will be available about 1 hour after show commences: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/archive.php

[Avocadess]

Call me a fool if you will, but I still trust Drake, David Wilcock, et al.

Alie: I wouldn't read too much into that. I just thought it was a cute exchange.

Just for imagination's sake: If the naysayers turned out to be correct and the hangman's noose is going our all our necks now and they plan to "hang" us this fall, then I guess I'd have to say Alex Jones is all true too and everything is terrible and horrible and nothing can save us and there is nothing we can do. Am I willing to live with that perspective? No.

Back to reality. Things ARE awful, terrible and despicable. ALL THE MORE REASON for everyone to do what s/he CAN do to help further the cause of freeing humanity -- and I do believe we/they ARE doing that.

What is sticking in your craw about Drake, Bill? I really don't get it. I thought you of all people would sense something beautiful going on here amidst all the [four-letter word beginning with s and ending in t -- or five letters ending in e if you are Scottish].

[StarDust]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Call me a fool if you will, but I still trust Drake, David Wilcock, et al.

Alie: I wouldn't read too much into that. I just thought it was a cute exchange.

Just for imagination's sake: If the naysayers turned out to be correct and the hangman's noose is going our all our necks now and they plan to "hang" us this fall, then I guess I'd have to say Alex Jones is all true too and everything is terrible and horrible and nothing can save us and there is nothing we can do. Am I willing to live with that perspective? No.

Back to reality. Things ARE awful, terrible and despicable. ALL THE MORE REASON for everyone to do what s/he CAN do to help further the cause of freeing humanity -- and I do believe we/they ARE doing that.

What is sticking in your craw about Drake, Bill? I really don't get it. I thought you of all people would sense something beautiful going on here amidst all the ****e.

I get a sense that "Bill" has a stand in who is drafting all these responses. The energy signature of the most recent "responses" from bill do not seem to be genuinely his.

[StarDust]

Posted by Molope (here)

I dont see a change of him or his attitude hes just posting his opinion in your first quote and on the second its just a normal response they said Bill ryan will eat his hat and etc and he replied "Bill as read it" on 3rd person not as nothing extrange but like keeping the flow of the conversation.

Thanks.

Unless you are a sports megastar, most people do not refer to themselves in the 3rd person. And even when sports stars do it, it's pretty atrocious.

[Avocadess]

Well, whether it is Bill or someone he trusts to post for him, I find his comments on several threads to be an effort to bully people like myself to get OFF this forum altogether so people can talk about the world the way HE sees it. Not that he has spoken more forcefully than the average poster -- but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

Wishing you all the best.

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

(NOTE: Please no one bother to PM me. I doubt I'll be back to check.)

[karelia]

Avocadess,

Please stay. Surely it would take more than one single individual's opinion to drive you away. So many people have come to not just like you but respect you and look up to you because of your relentless enthusiasm that is positively infectious. Stay and continue to shine your bright light, and other individuals will perhaps learn to do the same.

Much love to you.

[r3divory]

I haven't listened to every interview Drake has given. I would like to believe what I have heard is true. I have tried to check in my area for the community thing he was talking about but there doesn't seem to be one. I'm not quite sure how to start one. I have however started a small garden, and we have been starting a small food supply. We have a generator that if nothing else will keep our well pump and refrigerator/freezers running if we lose power and we have a very small supply of PM's just in case we need it. I would not turn anyone away that is hungry, but I alone do not have enough to feed everyone. This is a big community and those I have tried to talk to to take small steps to prepare look at me like I'm some crazed lunatic. I'm new to the whole awakening process, but I have had questions my entire life about my Christian upbringing that have never been answered to my satisfaction. I found this community quite by accident ( or maybe it was no accident). I am completely open to every possibility that can answer my questions about why we are here satisfactorily even if it is out of the comfort zone. I can see people's frustration or mistrust of Drake, I myself have read so many different ideas on what is going on, it's hard to believe anything at this point. I just have to trust in my instinct and the fact I was drawn here. Maybe it's something inside me telling me this is the place. I've had my instinct save my life twice, so I try not to 2nd guess it too much. What I do know, is there are bad things happening everywhere and I for one am looking forward to something positive. It's got to change soon. When something goes up, it must come down. When there is dark there must also be light, we have seen much to much dark and it is time for the lights to shine.

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[childs hood end]

I find it a bit strange that bill has not bin posting on avalon for a time...
yet since drake has come onto the scene hes bin back more...
but only seems to be pushing on negative treads ? like....

Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ew-with-Maarit

FUKUSHIMA -- Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tion-IMPORTANT

You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...it-JOHN-PILGER

kinda pushing fear in a way...

only saying what i feel.

hope alls well..............

[StarDust]

Posted by childs hood end (here)
I find it a bit strange that bill has not bin posting on avalon for a time...
yet since drake has come onto the scene hes bin back more...
but only seems to be pushing on negative treads ? like....

Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ew-with-Maarit

FUKUSHIMA -- Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tion-IMPORTANT

You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...it-JOHN-PILGER

kinda pushing fear in a way...

only saying what i feel.

hope alls well..............

That is precisely what I have intuited from his recent "responses". Fear mongering is fear mongering no matter who the person is who is perpetrating that fear.

Please don't leave Avocodess, you are a force for positivity and you are loved. Please stay!

[KiwiElf]

Posted by karelia (here)
Avocadess,

Please stay. Surely it would take more than one single individual's opinion to drive you away. So many people have come to not just like you but respect you and look up to you because of your relentless enthusiasm that is positively infectious. Stay and continue to shine your bright light, and other individuals will perhaps learn to do the same.

Much love to you.

And that's a second from meh - please stay

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

Hey there Avocadess, this is a fine place to share your passion. I for one appreciate your passion in this particular matter, but I just don't happen to agree with it. That's o.k. isn't it? Many here will remember a major disagreement I had with certain members back in December, including Bill. I left in a big huff, and just recently decided that was a mistake, so I requested my full membership back.

This is one thing I have learned from that. Most people here are really great people, we're all in the same boat, and we all want basically the same thing. We are most fortunate to have this forum, and others, for folks of like mind to gather and discuss an extremely wide range in subjects. Sometimes personalities clash, sometimes we're in flat out disagreement, and quite frankly sometimes our passions get the better of us. Hey, we're all struggling humans right?

This has been our problem for so long now Avocadess. Not only do we allow ourselves to be divided for a myriad of bulls**t reasons from outside, but it's so ingrained we almost naturally do the exact same thing to ourselves as well. We make it easy. Hell, I've been guilty of that my entire life. It's high time to stop fragmenting, and refragmenting ourselves. Enough is enough, divide and conquer works every time it's tried. It's an ancient game. Drake or no Drake, this is something we all have under our direct control. Contrary to popular belief, the ball is in our court, not theirs.

Good people of noble intent can agree to disagree sometimes. Sometimes it can even get a bit heated. But maybe it's time we stop bleeding ourselves out over self inflicted wounds, and lock arms in a higher purpose.

How bout it huh?

Cheers,
Fred

[Cognitive Dissident]

At the risk of stating the obvious, this is the third dimension. Polarities, opposites, etc. It is OK that everyone doesn't agree all the time!
I hope that Avocadess stays here and can derive some benefit from the wonderful mix of people on the forum. The more positive people, the better.
From a spiritual perspective, we are taught not to judge other people, right? Well, doesn't that mean that we don't judge people as being "negative" or "positive"? You can have a "negative" view on, say Fukushima, but have an overall "positive" view of what is going on with humanity's evolution, and why we all incarnated here at this time....
Yes, Bill has posted some "negative" threads recently, but if you have watched his interviews and read his "big picture" thoughts, you will realise that he is a highly positive person.
My personal opinion on all of this - NESARA is clearly nonsense, this Drake character is interesting but its not gospel truth (no pun intended), things are evolving very quickly in many ways that we cannot easily understand, but to try and reduce it to "mass arrests" of the bad guys or "destruction of underground bases" of the bad guys is simplistic. But it this way, these "events" could actually be metaphors, or happening on a subtle level, not on the gross physical plane.

[Jeffrey]

Avocadess! Don't leave! We need people like you here, people who CARE, and are diligent to boot. I'm going to put a quote here and their are people who fall on both sides of it.

         

To deny the possibility of the existence of anything of which we know nothing, would imply that we imagined ourselves to be in possession of all the knowledge that exists in the world, and believed that nothing could  exist of which we did not know.  A person who  peremptorily denies the existence of anything which is  beyond the horizon of his understanding, because he  cannot make it harmonize with his accepted opinions, is as credulous as he who believes everything without any discrimination.

Sure, Bill is the host here and his opinions carry weight, but don't let them weigh you down. You are indispensable here, as are all members. Please, don't leave on account of a difference of opinion, and don't take it personally. I hope you stay, and if you decide not too, I wish you well.

And I'm sure we can all agree that Bill would love to have to eat his hat.