Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Mozart]

Posted by Avocadess (here)

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find.

NNOOOOOOOOOO!


Don't leave, Avocadess!


Stay, please!


~Mozart

[gripreaper]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

Oh for goodness sake. We cannot have a difference of opinion without feelings getting ruffled, and people taking their ball and bat and going home?

I'm wondering if the awakening can progress and consciousness can ascend, which is really what it is all about, not whether Drake is sincere or not, or whether his plan is a psyop or real.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Well, whether it is Bill or someone he trusts to post for him, I find his comments on several threads to be an effort to bully people like myself to get OFF this forum altogether so people can talk about the world the way HE sees it. Not that he has spoken more forcefully than the average poster -- but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

Wishing you all the best.

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

(NOTE: Please no one bother to PM me. I doubt I'll be back to check.)

Really? You perceive that because Bill has a different opinion of what is happening than you that you are being bullied?

Wow.

I don't even know what to say to that. Do you need everyone to agree with you and share your version of reality in order to feel safe? I'm just baffled by this.

Lots of us disagree with Bill on any number of issues. This has never been the "I Agree With Bill Club". Ask Mozart.

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[aranuk]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Call me a fool if you will, but I still trust Drake, David Wilcock, et al.

Alie: I wouldn't read too much into that. I just thought it was a cute exchange.

Just for imagination's sake: If the naysayers turned out to be correct and the hangman's noose is going our all our necks now and they plan to "hang" us this fall, then I guess I'd have to say Alex Jones is all true too and everything is terrible and horrible and nothing can save us and there is nothing we can do. Am I willing to live with that perspective? No.

Back to reality. Things ARE awful, terrible and despicable. ALL THE MORE REASON for everyone to do what s/he CAN do to help further the cause of freeing humanity -- and I do believe we/they ARE doing that.

What is sticking in your craw about Drake, Bill? I really don't get it. I thought you of all people would sense something beautiful going on here amidst all the [four-letter word beginning with s and ending in t -- or five letters ending in e if you are Scottish].

is that you getting a dig in at me Avocadess?


Stan

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by StarDust (here)
...Unless you are a sports megastar, most people do not refer to themselves in the 3rd person. And even when sports stars do it, it's pretty atrocious.

Perhaps English is a second language or you are unfamiliar with modern stand-up comedy. It was a joke. You know, like, in a stage production, two people whisper loudly, "I hope Marty never finds out!", and then Marty, whom they didn't see, says, "Marty found out."

Dennis

[aranuk]

Posted by StarDust (here)
As a reminder, Drake will be doing his weekly thursday show this afternoon:

Thurs 3-5pm PST w/ Randy, Deatra, Sam & Drake - VIA Free Thinking Radio: http://freethinkingradio.com/

Recorded shows will be available about 1 hour after show commences: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/archive.php

Hi Stardust I seem to be hearing a loop of 20 minutes or so and it keeps repeating. What is going on?


Stan

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Well, whether it is Bill or someone he trusts to post for him, I find his comments on several threads to be an effort to bully people like myself to get OFF this forum altogether so people can talk about the world the way HE sees it. Not that he has spoken more forcefully than the average poster -- but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

Wishing you all the best.

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

(NOTE: Please no one bother to PM me. I doubt I'll be back to check.)

Whoa! Please breathe.

Unless it's in another thread I did not see, Bill has said nothing even remotely that you are unwelcome.

Bill does not believe the Drake scenario. That OK, right? Bill is not Avalon. Avalon is a lonely place with just one person. Bill encourages discussion. He thinks we're fooling ourselves. He could be right - I think he's wrong. I teased him about marinating his hat.

As long as no one is a total asshole/arsehole to each other, we get to express our opinions, including "naysaying" and "cheerleading" and all points in between.

At this point, the Dark Cabal controls and uses the US government as their geopolitical 'front line', and US soil to base their operations. I tried the only thing I think could possibly have worked to remove their front line (The Reset Button) and it ain't happening. So, we either have a group of patriots about to try the very difficult (maybe nearly impossible) task of taking down the Dark Cabal, or we are all in a huge toilet and the water is swirling. I don't just choose to believe Drake because there is nothing left, I believe with my gut based on listening. There will be an attempt, I am convinced. Bill thinks because they have broadcast (a tiny bit of ) the Plan, that it can't be real. I say, it was necessary to broadcast a tiny bit of the Plan. Might even be strategic. Where in the hell are they going to run to? You know, in karate, the scream before the attack? It has a purpose - it is not to "warn" the opponent and telegraph the Plan.

Please, my friend, get on back here. You are among friends, and some detractors. Such is life. It will make the hat-eating ceremony more fun!

Dennis

[Fred Steeves]

O.K. then Dennis, I'm in too brother... Might need some help on this one, but I hereby offer up my ever faithful, and now held together by duct tape carpenter's tool apron for my dining pleasure, if this "plan" pans out as advertised, and happily so btw!

In case you were wondering? Hand tools not included...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
O.K. then Dennis, I'm in too brother... Might need some help on this one, but I hereby offer up my ever faithful, and now held together by duct tape carpenter's tool apron for my dining pleasure, if this "plan" pans out as advertised, and happily so btw!

Ugh - that one's going to taste baaaad .

[xbusymom]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

In case you were wondering? Hand tools not included...

What ?!?... I thought everybody needed more iron in their diet??

[KiwiElf]

Re: Mass Arrests Have Already Started?
Nowhere, in this "unfolding adventure" can I recall Drake, Wilcock etc stating that this would occur "instantaneously", or "simultaneously" or "within a day" etc (add any time period of your choosing). I would say the odds of doing that - even in a single week - are not impossiible but extremely unlikely.

If you have been monitoring Sabrina's post, the "trend" has now switched from resignations to criminal investigations and actual arrests of some very big players. (Even in little New Zealand, I'm seeing steadily growing change and signs that something IS changing positively and with increasing momentum - even on the MSM. For those who do not watch MSM, you will not see this. The "mass arrests" have already started

"...You might not be able to eat a whole elephant in a single sitting - but you CAN ... just ONE bite at a time..."


Re: Plans rarely run "on schedule" or "EXACTLY to plan"
Anyone who is a student or practioner of Project Management - and to each and every individual who does "a little" planning in their daily lives ie, "shopping" - rarely has a perfect plan run exactly as pre-planned. It is virtually impossible!. The greater the number of possible outcomes, the greater the chance that change will inevitably occur. Consider it an ongoing Work In Progress at best, it will constantly change. There are an endless number of possible outcomes, again, which do you prefer?

Yin & Yang



Study this symbol for a moment. The circle can represent any unfolding event over any time period if viewed in this way: Have you noticed the little white dot amongst the black (or its opposing duality, the little black dot in the vast white?). I seriously doubt that ONE person has ALL the information, ALL of the "story". Go with the general flow you prefer. In this instance, the journey ie "getting to the goal" and the "goal" are inseparable. How we get there is perhaps secondary to its overall achievement.

We do not need a "savior" or "saving"
That is up to each and every one of you, both individually and collectively. If you feel you need to be "saved", understand you will create in your own realities, (ie you will " attract") all the "tools" you need to reinforce this belief & reflect back to you "that you need saving". The opposite is ALSO true.


Change the channel to "self-empowerment" Fasten all seatbelts

Create the reality you prefer! with integrity ... In thought... In Word ... In ACTION

[xbusymom]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Re: Mass Arrests Have Already Started?
Nowhere, in this "unfolding adventure" can I recall Drake, Wilcock etc stating that this would occur "instantaneously", or "simultaneously" or "within a day" etc (add any time period of your choosing). I would say the odds of doing that - even in a single week - are not impossiible but extremely unlikely.

If you have been monitoring Sabrina's post, the "trend" has now switched from resignations to criminal investigations and actual arrests of some very big players. (Even in little New Zealand, I'm seeing steadily growing change and signs that something IS changing positively and with increasing momentum - even on the MSM. For those who do not watch MSM, you will not see this. The "mass arrests" have already started

"...You might not be able to eat a whole elephant in a single sitting - but you CAN ... just ONE bite at a time..."


Re: Plans rarely run "on schedule" or "EXACTLY to plan"
Anyone who is a student or practioner of Project Management - and to each and every individual who does "a little" planning in their daily lives ie, "shopping" - rarely has a perfect plan run exactly as pre-planned. It is virtually impossible!. The greater the number of possible outcomes, the greater the chance that change will inevitably occur. Consider it an ongoing Work In Progress at best, it will constantly change. There are an endless number of possible outcomes, again, which do you prefer?

Yin & Yang

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Study this symbol for a moment. The circle can represent any unfolding event over any time period if viewed in this way: Have you noticed the little white dot amongst the black (or its opposing duality, the little black dot in the vast white?). I seriously doubt that ONE person has ALL the information, ALL of the "story". Go with the general flow you prefer. In this instance, the journey ie "getting to the goal" and the "goal" are inseparable. How we get there is perhaps secondary to its overall achievement.

We do not need a "savior" or "saving"
That is up to each and every one of you, both individually and collectively. If you feel you need to be "saved", understand you will create in your own realities, (ie you will " attract") all the "tools" you need to reinforce this belief & reflect back to you "that you need saving". The opposite is ALSO true.


Change the channel to "self-empowerment" Fasten all seatbelts

Create the reality you prefer! ... In thought... In Word ... In ACTION

Maybe "How we get there " is the real issue we need to address- maybe we need to give it FIRST PRIORITY???
Do we really want to go down the same "the ends justify the means" road again???

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
O.K. then Dennis, I'm in too brother... Might need some help on this one, but I hereby offer up my ever faithful, and now held together by duct tape carpenter's tool apron for my dining pleasure, if this "plan" pans out as advertised, and happily so btw!

Ugh - that one's going to taste baaaad .

Baaaad? What are you a goat now? I thought you's a cow, man.

[foreverfan]

[Space_Ace]

I read the last few dozen posts and will just keep thinking positive. Did Drake have anything new to say? Are mass arrests still scheduled for June? I am going to miss Avocadess who decided to take a break because too many of us were being negative and disagreeing. Can anyone else give us hearing impaired individuals a summary in a few sentences what Drake said?

[Ishtar]

Posted by kk4aei (here)
ETs are waiting for the day humanity is united in Spirit...looks like we have our work cut out for us.

Humanity is already united in Spirit... we are just not united in thought.

We are independent thinkers and have our own views on things and long may that last. That diversity of inspired ideas, dreams and opinions makes us who we are.

If your "ETs" are waiting for a change in that, please tell them that they'd be better off turning around their craft and heading back to where they came from. We don't need any new age fascist religion with spaceships nor a new, updated version of Original Sin here, thank you.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by xbusymom (here)
Create the reality you prefer! ... In thought... In Word ... In ACTION[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Maybe "How we get there " is the real issue we need to address- maybe we need to give it FIRST PRIORITY???
Do we really want to go down the same "the ends justify the means" road again???

That is ONE possibility... (only a few billion more to go!

I would suggest the addition of "... with integrity" to the above. Integrity, integrate, integral. This generates more positive synchronicity...

Without integrity creates separation and more negative synchronicity

Choose wisely

[Bo Atkinson]

Just got through the latest: 2012-05-03_FR_Deatra_Drake_BillWood.mp3

I'm listening to all these over other (income-aiming) work. I have largely multi-tracked my awareness which dropped me out of school very young. Too many things are plain boring, so it goes. This morning doing some concrete counter top promo, photoshopping before and after, writing proposal contract segments.

I support sentient and coherent discussion of 'Drake'. Dragons reptiles, turtles or any other historical perception or precept of creation actually seems acceptable for discussion, with regard to the coverage by Drake. Societal frameworks seem up to the people to assist in molding locally. It sounds somewhat libertarian except acknowledging some sort of "social values" like police, military, infrastructure, presumably with a lot of public input... The word of antiestablishmentarianism and it's history seem to fit, the dialog so far. This is so huge an undertaking that it does draw in, tons of histories and her stories. One liners simply don't apply. Except for a little fun, which is OK.

Psyops or another dictator to replace the current ones is totally speculative. Just as are the multiple independent observation of world wide collapse, (of many things). Let the beam of one's hearing be deciphered in one's very own mind-- While assessing beliefs or outside assertions, as potentially flawed perception, somewhere. Let freedom reign, let free-speech squelch or culturally-serenade. Thanks goes to all the gun owners and also to the highly principled people. It's not the gun, but rather the triggering of appropriate events. Drake simply says take care in this, manage your own responsibilities and help-out, according to one's own ability, to help their own communities. Get out there now, at the level one can manage and declare locally, common law. I have to study this invocation further, as my life was more devoted to multi-disciplined structure and building. Yet devotion to self-responsibility has always dominated my thoughts.

Drake seems to project country-boy-morality, which, has always seemed to me, more ethical and moral, than the political status quo. As a young boy, that life was dream. Totally shattered with Viet Nam, because i knew to much, by then. I ended up in the country all the same. I have lived in 3 countries, expat as a child, in the ruins of Rome, Italy, literally. (13 registered political parties in the post war 1950s). I grew up with locals and lot's of diplomat kids, military kids, UN kids, biz kids and Hollywood used Rome for it's special effects in those days (Ben Hur film sets and the catacombs, etc were our school trips). Also spent several months in a school near to Ishtar's town, Yeovil, Somerset. To respire something of my father-line heritage (nearer to Scotland actually). Wow, that was excessive schooling by age 18. But to beat the draft, one more kinda-school... Working for a high end scientologist in NYC, what a trip that was. I know a few things about psyops from that and subsequent contrasts of self-education since.... That a non Ph.D was selected to send out a scenario, for events yet to transpire, makes rational sense, to me, from my life perspective.

In any event... What ever will be, will be. The future is not fixed for me. Che sara, sara.



Take care folks, we are all important in these coming days. Let us define the future. My dreams are always about building.

[crosby]

wavydome, i have to tell you something bizarre, may i pm you?
regards, corson