Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by modwiz (here)
It is not so much that 9eagle9 is right brained as she works with both hemispheres simultaneously. Effortlessly synthesizing the data relevant to/for each hemisphere. This is the real capability of shamans and other magical types. Operating multidimensionally in fully awake consciousness. No trances needed. It is result of dedication to a path. Some innate ability may play some part, but like any talent, it is the work and effort that produces brilliance.

Well, overwintered hippy. LOL

When the signals are made moving back and forth across the corpus

collosum fast enough, a standing wave is produced in the middle

of corpus collosum. This wave can be moved back and forth along

the corpus and down the spine, producing all kinds of phenomenons.

It can also be used to connect with other humans standing waves to

experience communion. ROFLOL






All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Chester]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

I don´t mean to be rude, but maybe it´s time to stop this personal discussion here?

I think PMs are much more adequate for this kind of debate.

Cheers,

Raf.

Apologies but I hope this discussion continues - Both Vast and 9 are making super excellent points and I have benefited and suspect others may as well benefit - Please don't stop

[9eagle9]

The hole that has been dug here is that Drake claims he is from a Dragon Order and promises to shortly 'reveal' the occult nature of the ptb (which has already been revealed). If Drake is who he claims to be then he will shortly be spouting the same sort of bull**** as VM percieves me to be. Or at least should be, although that 'occult' knowledge is anything but if we have already bandied it back and forth on this forum previously and within this very thread.

I would like to see VM then argue the same points with Drake as vigorously as I.

I would lay exactly 1, 147. 50 cents on the table to bet VM would not.

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IF (big if) Drake the draco, IS who he actually claims he his. His mode of operation suggest to me that he is not.

[Hervé]

To illustrate what 9eagle9's position is like, here is an example:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

To give some reality on how a programmed individual keeps on going with the program whether the latter is inculcated on one while out-of-body as in "The Programming of A Planet" (abductions or `in-between lives') or through an upbringing within a particular culture, tradition or community, here is an example of a mom who tried to talk some sense into her son who is still caught up into what has become a cult:

Sadly, the last time we saw our son who is still in the [cult], I pointed out the outpoint of "[cult]" to him. He could not respond other than to repeat how the building needs to be finished first and the staff in place before the tech can be delivered.

I kept trying to get him to duplicate that all that isn’t required to get staff through, even if only one at a time. It was amazing for me to see how he could not respond other than to state the party line about the building. He just could not think it through.

The only other time I have personally witnessed what I saw in my son was a time years ago when a friend of mine was hypnotized by her brother in front of me and her boyfriend. Her brother asked me what I would like him to have her do after he woke her up. I wanted to see if she would repeat something that she would considered silly under normal circumstances. I said, have her get up and flush the toilet every time you tug at your collar.

So he gave her the command, then woke her up. He tugged his collar, she got up, went into the bathroom and flushed the toilet, came back and sat down. He tugged his collar again, and she did it again. And again. After three or four times, I finally asked her why she kept getting up to flush the toilet.

First, she just said it needed flushing. She did it again. And again, I asked her why she kept flushing the toilet. Each time I asked her, she would make up some lame reason as to why she had to flush the toilet.

She got more and more annoyed at me for asking, but she did it again and again upon command and could never see that there was anything strange about it.

Her brother hypnotized her once more to release her of the command, but what an amazing thing to have witnessed.

This is what I saw in my son. He could not answer a simple question about [cult], but only parrot the party line.

Emphasis ,mine, to underline what happens with an awake individual's "friends" and "family" who just refuse to hear or talk about anything else than what's on TeeVee...

So... how to un-hypnotize post-hypnotic-controlled skull-dwelling zombies who are either under the spell of post-hypnotic orders and behaviours, or an equivalent, when they are not only unaware of it but would fight anyone attempting to demonstrate it to them... tough catch-22 job!

In a general way, what can be done is starting, as exemplified above, with oneself then expand gradually to others on a gentle slope instead of using shock therapy as the MSM love to do following the courts proceedings: John Doe vs the rest of the whole bloody universe (see my 2sd signature)!

Then, regarding Wilcock and Drake, the following is at play as well (which ends up producing what's above to keep it in an endless loop since the underlying programming is for people to need to believe in... something):

PLAY ON PEOPLE'S NEED TO BELIEVE TO CREATE A CULTLIKE FOLLOWING

by Robert Greene

Law 27 -- Play on People's Need to Believe to Create a Cultlike Following

Judgment: People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power.

In searching, as you must, for the methods that will gain you the most power for the least effort, you will find the creation of a cultlike following one of the most effective. Having a large following opens up all sorts of possibilities for deception; not only will your followers worship you, they will defend you from your enemies and will voluntarily take on the work of enticing others to join your fledgling cult. This kind of power will lift you to another realm: You will no longer have to struggle or use subterfuge to enforce your will. You are adored and can do no wrong.

You might think it a gargantuan task to create such a following, but in fact it is fairly simple. As humans, we have a desperate need to believe in something, anything. This makes us eminently gullible: We simply cannot endure long periods of doubt, or of the emptiness that comes from a lack of something to believe in. Dangle in front of us some new cause, elixir, get-rich-quick scheme, or the latest technological trend or art movement and we leap from the water as one to take the bait. Look at history: The chronicles of the new trends and cults that have made a mass following for themselves could fill a library. After a few centuries, a few decades, a few years, a few months, they generally look ridiculous, but at the time they seem so attractive, so transcendental, so divine.

Always in a rush to believe in something, we will manufacture saints and faiths out of nothing. Do not let this gullibility go to waste: Make yourself the object of worship. Make people form a cult around you.

The great European charlatans of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries mastered the art of cultmaking. They lived, as we do now, in a time of transformation: Organized religion was on the wane, science on the rise. People were desperate to rally around a new cause or faith. The charlatans had begun by peddling health elixirs and alchemic shortcuts to wealth. Moving quickly from town to town, they originally focused on small groups -- until, by accident, they stumbled on a truth of human nature: The larger the group they gathered around themselves, the easier it was to deceive.

The charlatan would station himself on a high wooden platform (hence the term "mountebank") and crowds would swarm around him. In a group setting, people were more emotional, less able to reason. Had the charlatan spoken to them individually, they might have found him ridiculous, but lost in a crowd they got caught up in a communal mood of rapt attention. It became impossible for them to find the distance to be skeptical. Any deficiencies in the charlatan's ideas were hidden by the zeal of the mass. Passion and enthusiasm swept through the crowd like a contagion, and they reacted violently to anyone who dared to spread a seed of doubt. Both consciously studying this dynamic over decades of experiment and spontaneously adapting to these situations as they happened, the charlatans perfected the science of attracting and holding a crowd, molding the crowd into followers and the followers into a cult

The gimmicks of the charlatans may seem quaint today, but there are thousands of charlatans among us still, using the same tried-and-true methods their predecessors refined centuries ago, only changing the names of their elixirs and modernizing the look of their cults. We find these latter-day charlatans in all arenas of life -- business, fashion, politics, art. Many of them, perhaps, are following in the charlatan tradition without having any knowledge of its history, but you can be more systematic and deliberate. Simply follow the five steps of cultmaking that our charlatan ancestors perfected over the years.

Step 1: Keep it Vague; Keep it Simple. To create a cult you must first attract attention. This you should do not through actions, which are too clear and readable, but through words, which are hazy and deceptive. Your initial speeches, conversations, and interviews must include two elements: on the one hand the promise of something great and transformative, and on the other a total vagueness. This combination will stimulate all kinds of hazy dreams in your listeners, who will make their own connections and see what they want to see.

To make your vagueness attractive, use words of great resonance but cloudy meaning, words full of heat and enthusiasm. Fancy titles for simple things are helpful, as are the use of numbers and the creation of new words for vague concepts. All of these create the impression of specialized knowledge, giving you a veneer of profundity. By the same token, try to make the subject of your cult new and fresh, so that few will understand it. Done right, the combination of vague promises, cloudy but alluring concepts, and fiery enthusiasm will stir people's souls and a group will form around you.

Talk too vaguely and you have no credibility. But it is more dangerous to be specific. If you explain in detail the benefits people will gain by following your cult, you will be expected to satisfy them.

As a corollary to its vagueness your appeal should also be simple. Most people's problems have complex causes: deep-rooted neurosis, interconnected social factors, roots that go way back in time and are exceedingly hard to unravel. Few, however, have the patience to deal with this; most people want to hear that a simple solution will cure their problems. The ability to offer this kind of solution will give you great power and build you a following. Instead of the complicated explanations of real life, return to the primitive solutions of our ancestors, to good old country remedies, to mysterious panaceas.




Full article here:
http://www.american-buddha.com/greene.cult.htm

[Taurean]

Just came across this interview which could probably apply to a few threads at the moment. - a lot of inter-twining info that requires a huge dollop of discernment !

Starts at 6.00

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d4fLwBdAWyw

[seigiarchon]

Bill Ryan had always been a protagonist of kicking out TPTB, UFO disclosures, free energy devices and stamping out poverty.

Yet in the last year or so, Bill had grown increasingly distant from the fiascos on Project Avalon.

Drake and Wilcock had posted some pretty legit documents on the net in regards to some impending "mass arrests" and "take-down of the elites" yet Bill had stayed pretty aloof from the latest Charles/Atticus re-run.

Now I know why.

I don't think there will be any mass arrests. I don't think there will be any take-down of TPTB and the elites. I don't think there will be any mass UFO disclosures, no free energy disclosures or stamping out of poverty..

In fact, I don't even think there will be an "Earth" left after the "3 days of darkness" on 21st Dec 2012.

I think that Bill knows what's gonna happen is not the regime change as proposed by Drake, Wilcock and Fulford but it's gonna be a new reshaping of reality altogether.

The "mass arrests" and "topping of TPTB elites" are gonna be drops of water compared to the ocean of changes that is coming.

Bill knows what he is NOT talking about. Lol..

[seigiarchon]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
Bill Ryan had always been a protagonist of kicking out TPTB, UFO disclosures, free energy devices and stamping out poverty.

Yet in the last year or so, Bill had grown increasingly distant from the fiascos on Project Avalon.

Drake and Wilcock had posted some pretty legit documents on the net in regards to some impending "mass arrests" and "take-down of the elites" yet Bill had stayed pretty aloof from the latest Charles/Atticus re-run.

Now I know why.

I don't think there will be any mass arrests. I don't think there will be any take-down of TPTB and the elites. I don't think there will be any mass UFO disclosures, no free energy disclosures or stamping out of poverty..

In fact, I don't even think there will be an "Earth" left after the "3 days of darkness" on 21st Dec 2012.

I think that Bill knows what's gonna happen is not the regime change as proposed by Drake, Wilcock and Fulford but it's gonna be a new reshaping of reality altogether.

The "mass arrests" and "topping of TPTB elites" are gonna be drops of water compared to the ocean of changes that is coming.

Bill knows what he is NOT talking about. Lol..

If civilizations don't need laws to keep moral conducts in check, what need will there be for arrests?

If civilizations don't need money as a concept to flourish, what need will there be for the toppling of TPTB elites?

Question is.. if a civilization or civilizations do not need laws or money as cornerstones of societies, what kind of a civilization is it?

We still need to feed our bodies.. don't we?

[Wind]

Bill has already shared his view with us many times. Why would he hold back information if his mission is actually to spread it?

[Maia Gabrial]

We've been brainwashed into thinking that these are the ONLY ways to live. Look at the Andromedans, according to Alex Collier - EVERYTHING is free to them. There is no money. Give me that kind of society any day....

[eaglespirit]

No One is holding back anything in this now time of an ever so potent ethical stream that is now flowing and overflowing into every facet of Our Lives!

Clean out those 'critters' from deep within and simply live as impeccably good as You are able every moment and be inline with the cosmic and natural energies that are here on Mother Earth right in front of Us to take Our Own Loving Creative Moments to the Stars and Beyond.

It IS that simple...Living Unconditional Love with Wisdom and Creating Your Own Loving Reality has never been more smooth sailing than it is right now!!!

[mountain_jim]

I think that Bill knows what's gonna happen is not the regime change as proposed by Drake, Wilcock and Fulford but it's gonna be a new reshaping of reality altogether.

The "mass arrests" and "topping of TPTB elites" are gonna be drops of water compared to the ocean of changes that is coming.

Bill knows what he is NOT talking about. Lol..

I don't think Bill needs to have 'what he knows or thinks' claimed by other posters here.

He states that well enough on his own.

[gripreaper]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
In fact, I don't even think there will be an "Earth" left after the "3 days of darkness" on 21st Dec 2012.

So, did you have an astral experience where you "heard" voices, of how did you come to this conclusion?

[tenacity1]

wise words Eaglespirit.. I admire and respect Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy.. that isn't to say I have to agree with them entirely to respect them and send them agape love. They have taken their lives into their hands and not been complicit in their complacency as so many have. They STOOD UP for truth and let folks decide for themselves. They remain in my prayers constantly along with David Wilcock and Drake and others. I've always found it ironic that a movement of positive thinking folks can sometimes(note I said sometimes) be so darn negative.. you'd think we all knew what will happen. None of us do. Time will tell..till then I will live with love in my heart and hope and pray for as better world. Those of you cycnicscan call me naiive ..I don't care.. in my gut I know better days can come if we support the work being done with positive energy.

[Chester]

EDIT - Posted in wrong thread

[Lost N Found]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
We've been brainwashed into thinking that these are the ONLY ways to live. Look at the Andromedans, according to Alex Collier - EVERYTHING is free to them. There is no money. Give me that kind of society any day....

I am with you 100 percent on that. Money is such an evil, mind twisting thing. We have everything we need on this blue ball for free without the use of Money.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
Bill Ryan had always been a protagonist of kicking out TPTB, UFO disclosures, free energy devices and stamping out poverty.

Yet in the last year or so, Bill had grown increasingly distant from the fiascos on Project Avalon.

Drake and Wilcock had posted some pretty legit documents on the net in regards to some impending "mass arrests" and "take-down of the elites" yet Bill had stayed pretty aloof from the latest Charles/Atticus re-run.

Now I know why.

I don't think there will be any mass arrests. I don't think there will be any take-down of TPTB and the elites. I don't think there will be any mass UFO disclosures, no free energy disclosures or stamping out of poverty..

In fact, I don't even think there will be an "Earth" left after the "3 days of darkness" on 21st Dec 2012.

I think that Bill knows what's gonna happen is not the regime change as proposed by Drake, Wilcock and Fulford but it's gonna be a new reshaping of reality altogether.

The "mass arrests" and "topping of TPTB elites" are gonna be drops of water compared to the ocean of changes that is coming.

Bill knows what he is NOT talking about. Lol..

Your consciousness differs alot from mine. As I think better days are well upon us. What we think we become. Im sorry to hear of your negative thoughts.

[Lost N Found]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
Bill Ryan had always been a protagonist of kicking out TPTB, UFO disclosures, free energy devices and stamping out poverty.

Yet in the last year or so, Bill had grown increasingly distant from the fiascos on Project Avalon.

Drake and Wilcock had posted some pretty legit documents on the net in regards to some impending "mass arrests" and "take-down of the elites" yet Bill had stayed pretty aloof from the latest Charles/Atticus re-run.

Now I know why.

I don't think there will be any mass arrests. I don't think there will be any take-down of TPTB and the elites. I don't think there will be any mass UFO disclosures, no free energy disclosures or stamping out of poverty..

In fact, I don't even think there will be an "Earth" left after the "3 days of darkness" on 21st Dec 2012.

I think that Bill knows what's gonna happen is not the regime change as proposed by Drake, Wilcock and Fulford but it's gonna be a new reshaping of reality altogether.

The "mass arrests" and "topping of TPTB elites" are gonna be drops of water compared to the ocean of changes that is coming.

Bill knows what he is NOT talking about. Lol..

You are sure thinking alot. I certainly hope you do not have effective dreams like the guy in the "Lathe of Heaven" unless you are going to change everything for the better.

So we are, I guess. to believe that Bill Ryan knows what is really going to happen? Bill, are you going to give us all at least a 24 hour notice so we can get everything in order?

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
We've been brainwashed into thinking that these are the ONLY ways to live. Look at the Andromedans, according to Alex Collier - EVERYTHING is free to them. There is no money. Give me that kind of society any day....

Question is.. do the Andromedans have 3D physical bodies?

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Posted by WhiteFeather (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
Bill Ryan had always been a protagonist of kicking out TPTB, UFO disclosures, free energy devices and stamping out poverty.

Yet in the last year or so, Bill had grown increasingly distant from the fiascos on Project Avalon.

Drake and Wilcock had posted some pretty legit documents on the net in regards to some impending "mass arrests" and "take-down of the elites" yet Bill had stayed pretty aloof from the latest Charles/Atticus re-run.

Now I know why.

I don't think there will be any mass arrests. I don't think there will be any take-down of TPTB and the elites. I don't think there will be any mass UFO disclosures, no free energy disclosures or stamping out of poverty..

In fact, I don't even think there will be an "Earth" left after the "3 days of darkness" on 21st Dec 2012.

I think that Bill knows what's gonna happen is not the regime change as proposed by Drake, Wilcock and Fulford but it's gonna be a new reshaping of reality altogether.

The "mass arrests" and "topping of TPTB elites" are gonna be drops of water compared to the ocean of changes that is coming.

Bill knows what he is NOT talking about. Lol..

Your consciousness differs alot from mine. As I think better days are well upon us. What we think we become. Im sorry to hear of your negative thoughts.

I happen to think Humanity will experience much more beneficial changes than just "mass arrests and toppling of the NWO elite".

[seigiarchon]

Posted by StarSeed (here)
Bill has already shared his view with us many times. Why would he hold back information if his mission is actually to spread it?

If you think that anybody is in here sharing 100% of their information, then you would be lying to yourself.

Why do you think Bill, with all his contacts, stated that he would put a video of him "eating his hat" on youtube if the proposed mass arrests go down this year? Pretty daring statement, I would say.

The man knows something we don't.

Now I am not saying that the NWO elite have nothing to fear.

Remember the spate of mass resignations during March and Feb?

Obviously something is gonna happen end of this year which frightens many top CEOs into handing in their resignations.. something more scary than just mass arrests I would say..

I happen to think that a more justifiable punishment than just "mass arrests of the elites" is gonna happen to humanity.

Didn't they say that Judgment Day is gonna arrive at the end of this year? Hey even the good J-Princess say our souls and hearts will be judged during the 3 days of darkness.

Now if there is going to be the 3 days of Judgment Darkness, why would the Gods have need for the "mass arrests" to happen?

Lastly Bill himself said he wasn't sharing 100% of his info. Check out his post here.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post478348

I remarked quite some time ago -- back in Camelot’s heyday – that if any researcher into covert global affairs were to be 100% intellectually honest, the rabbithole would lead to some very dark places where one might not have originally intended to go at all.

It stops being fun, and one might readily regret embarking on the journey. But the data trail leads there, so one has to take courage and proceed.

This thread epitomizes that. It’s where the trail leads. It’s unsavory, but I believe there’s an immense amount of extremely important, unsavory truth here. That’s why I think this thread is so significant.

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
Question is.. do the Andromedans have 3D physical bodies?

Physicality exist in all dimensions,The Andromedans In reference are 5D, not 3D, even there though they have physical bodies like we do.