Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[xbusymom]

Posted by NancyV (here)
My take on Drake's talk from yesterday, 5/6, is that he's threatening only Kerry, Camelot, posters on Camelot and staff, at least from the talk yesterday. I don't know if he's threatened anyone on Avalon, but the absurdity of his threatened lawsuit means he could threaten anyone who has posted against him or defamed him, in his mind.

This is the first 11 minutes of the talk yesterday (for those who won't or can't listen to it) where he dealt with the potential for the lawsuits, the dragon societies, etc.

My apologies... (In the interest of space- wont copy the transcript again)... but after re-reading it... just - WOW! His train of thought does seem to be sooo "birdshot" as to be almost un-follow-able.

[Ishtar]

justoneman, there you go again... trying to make me be what you want me to be.

This seems to be an obsession with you.

I am not going to change to suit you.

I am me. I am happy with the decisions I make.

You will have to take it or leave it.

[joedjemal]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Two depictions of the same event?

Here, we know of Drake's take on it.

Now, here is the other side of the same coin from Stan Deyo site:


May 4, 2012
Douglas J. Hagmann
Hagmann Investigative Services, Inc. and Northeast Intelligence Network



1ST PAGE

• Civil war is coming to the US, and there's no stopping it
• DHS prepping for economic collapse and money will be worthless.
• Never seen it this bad; everyone is talking about what they personally will do.
• DHS brass don't care and are conducting overt actions in plain sight. Most incoming troops are not for training (some are) but as part of a larger force.
• All know BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) is constitutionally illegitimate.
• All in Congress know this, and their families are being threatened to keep them quiet.
• High level News Corp. people talked to the highest at DHS and TSA. The plan is to get people conditioned to seeing troops, paramilitary – get them conditioned to being searched.
• Dollar will collapse – that will be the bigger event. The trigger event starts in Europe and then heads here. When we see that – start counting because we have only days left.
• Bernanke / Geitner / top level bankers will be in hiding.
• Election year – watch BHO's body language. Does he look afraid of not getting elected? "WTF wake up."

2ND PAGE

• Then race riots, class riots.
• Farrakhan is on DIA payroll and he will help start these riots.
• Then Civil War, not sporadic riots and uprisings here and there.
• There will be no food – no ETMs – no gas.
• People will RUN to camps for assistance.
• Guns must be abandoned and left with police in order to get food.
• BHO & Bernanke are behind every stupid economic move.
• Something with China troops here, but China debt to be called in – 5.5 trillion total.
• Rosebud: How easy will will it be to quell 300+ million people?
  No, the question is: How easy will it be to quell 300+ STARVING people who are unprepared?
• Shoot to kill orders during collapse will be given to the police.
• End of meeting
• More later. Said next meeting 5 May (Sat.) outside of DC. Call Sunday.

******************************************************
Corroborating event: Newly elected French president Francois Hollande is working at dumpimg the US dollar and at joining the BRICS nations (see: France to join BRICS nations?)

Are both real?

One disinfo of the other?

Which one?

Both disinfo?

The stuff about the collapse looks correct to me. I've been watching it unfold in depth since 2003. I have no idea how the current authorities intend to deal with it but some things have become apparent.

The collapse is inherent in the nature of current systems and cannot be avoided. (It could have been with a major change in direction in the 70's but any viable solution would have destroyed the elites power so it seems that they decided to let things roll on)

They've known it was coming for quite a long time although I don't think they planned it, they found themselves in a trap of their own making. From personal experience discussion of the true situation in a public forum is extremely aggressively silenced.

They obviously have contingency plans to react to it as we can see with the not so subtle imposition of crypto martial law pretty much everywhere on the planet, this event is global in scope.

They seem to have no plans to assist the general population through this difficult period (quite to the contrary, here in the UK the vulnerable are already being abandoned)

The key collapse occurred in 2007/08 and everything since then has been patch up stuff to keep it going a bit longer but the makeshift repairs are now failing. The final collapse is likely to be extremely rapid and could start any day now.

This is an extremely unpopular message and it is virtually certain that a number of the hopium addicts will find a whole raft of weird and wonderful but spurious reasons why it cannot be.

Turiya in an earlier post was quite right. They won't be taken down by a coup but by their own unsustainable systems. How many survive it will largely depend on how people react at an intensely local level and how many of them have effectively prepared. Cities will probably become extremely dangerous places. I won't spend more than a few hours in one these days.

Anyone relying on external saviours (without real world evidence for their existence) will likely be disappointed. Societal collapses involving large scale famines have been frequent in history, and there were no aliens to help them. You're more likely to get a meal off me if we aren't destroyed by desperate starving people.

I think this Drake thing is just another displacement exercise by people who can't bear looking at the world as it really is.

Yes I believe in spirituallity and that we're all one and yes we're about to evolve but that tend to happen by selection through cataclysm rather than some poorly defined ascension process making magical changes to our genes.

Sorry if I offend but that's the way I see it.

[turiya]

Hey NancyV,

Yes, it seems to me his reaction is misdirected towards Project Camelot. If you do a google search with certain search terms, such as "Vietnam Brotherhood", "Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon.", "Drake", you will find that it will come to Vivek's post in the Project Avalon forum.

turiya

Posted by NancyV (here)
My take on Drake's talk from yesterday, 5/6, is that he's threatening only Kerry, Camelot, posters on Camelot and staff, at least from the talk yesterday. I don't know if he's threatened anyone on Avalon, but the absurdity of his threatened lawsuit means he could threaten anyone who has posted against him or defamed him, in his mind.

This is the first 11 minutes of the talk yesterday (for those who won't or can't listen to it) where he dealt with the potential for the lawsuits, the dragon societies, etc.

[Hervé]

Posted by joedjemal (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Two depictions of the same event?

[...]

The stuff about the collapse looks correct to me. I've been watching it unfold in depth since 2003. I have no idea how the current authorities intend to deal with it but some things have become apparent.

[...]

I think this Drake thing is just another displacement exercise by people who can't bear looking at the world as it really is.

Yes I believe in spirituallity and that we're all one and yes we're about to evolve but that tend to happen by selection through cataclysm rather than some poorly defined ascension process making magical changes to our genes.

Sorry if I offend but that's the way I see it.

Thanks for picking up the ball, Joe.

I find it quite revealing that my initial post is left unacknowledged...like something the cat just brought in.

No offense taken from this quarter.

[Chester]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
justoneman, there you go again... trying to make me be what you want me to be.

This seems to be an obsession with you.

I am not going to change to suit you.

I am me. I am happy with the decisions I make.

You will have to take it or leave it.

we were asked to take this to PMs

[StarDust]

Posted by TURIYA (here)
Hey NancyV,

Yes, it seems to me his reaction is misdirected towards Project Camelot. If you do a google search with certain search terms, such as "Vietnam Brotherhood", "Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon.", "Drake", you will find that it will come to Vivek's post in the Project Avalon forum.

turiya

He is precisely targeting Vivek's post. There is no mistaking it.

[Ishtar]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks for picking up the ball, Joe.

I find it quite revealing that my initial post is left unacknowledged...like something the cat just brought in.

No offense taken from this quarter.

Aaaaw, sorry Amzer Zo. It was a good post and I was still absorbing it ... there was quite a lot to take on and then go "Wow! Is this really gonna happen?". The scenario is so bleak that it's hard to accept. Then I noticed it was written a few days ago, and that they've had another meeting since... and so I was wondering what was happening with that.

But certainly I didn't regard it as something the cat dragged in! Quite the reverse....(I'm still reeling!).

[xbusymom]

Turiya:
The biggest surprise of my recent life came when George Bush Jr. was elected for his second term. My jaw dropped upon learning that most people in America could not see the man for what he was.
Apparently, most people cannot see through the rhetoric.

How do you know the people were not aware of that... maybe it was just that the voting machines were under his spell and made the decision for us humans??

[Hervé]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

[...]... and so I was wondering what was happening with that.

So was I...

It can be found here: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516

Obama administration, including his czars and his closest Progressive supporters, are planning a manufactured insurgency against America. Using the media to garner both sympathy and support for his unfinished goals.

The planned re-election of Obama, revolutionary style

[...]

New Information

Astounded by the information my source provided “going viral,” I spoke to him again early Sunday morning.

[...]

“I can tell you word is getting out that people are starting to wake up, which is causing a lot of ‘pissed off brass.’ I can’t tell if they are more desperate or upset about the exposure, but the tone is starting to become a lot more tense. I hope that we’re having something to do with that,” he added.

With that, he provided me with additional information to supplement that which he already given me on 25 April. For clarity purposes, I have combined the information together from both contacts. The following information includes the updated information provided to me Sunday morning.

[...]

Full article: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516

[wynderer]

just reminding you all about Dragons & their connection to Reptilians, & that your planet is being nuked while you all discuss a missive from a Dragon guy

-- from Drake:

So you have denigrated the Dragon families and the people associated with them and this process. I’ll be in touch with them in the next couple of days to find out what they want to do about it. Now whether they take this personally or decide to do this publically, I don’t know yet. If it’s a public decision then this will probably go through the courts. If it’s a private decision, you might as well pack your bags and leave town. And that’s basically where this sits at this point.

[joedjemal]

I have no knowledge of Obama plots Amzer, the collapse is systemic in nature but you can bet there'll be a whole raft of psychopathic types itching to use it for their own advantage as the rules that constrain their behaviour will be gone. Our biggest problem apart from the lack of food, water and medicines will be local wannabe warlords.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Two depictions of the same event?

Here, we know of Drake's take on it.

Now, here is the other side of the same coin from Stan Deyo site:

Thanks, Amzer Zo.

I recall warnings of George W. Bush canceling elections, when he ran for his second term. So, as I am sure I don't need to remind anyone, such warnings don't always bear fruit.

However, from what I've seen of those crazy b*st*rds in Washington, they're more than sufficiently crazy to attempt something like you report from Stan Deyo. If they do, I'll wager that any web site that is showing itself useful in helping people stay informed will be shutdown or unusable.

[NancyV]

Posted by wynderer (here)
just reminding you all about Dragons & their connection to Reptilians, & that your planet is being nuked while you all discuss a missive from a Dragon guy

-- from Drake:

So you have denigrated the Dragon families and the people associated with them and this process. I’ll be in touch with them in the next couple of days to find out what they want to do about it. Now whether they take this personally or decide to do this publically, I don’t know yet. If it’s a public decision then this will probably go through the courts. If it’s a private decision, you might as well pack your bags and leave town. And that’s basically where this sits at this point.

Wynderer if the planet is being nuked then we might as well have fun in the meantime. Personally, instead of lamenting and crying I would prefer to fiddle while Rome burns. If anyone thinks they can change things and chooses to do so, more power to them. They are free to enjoy life in any way that pleases them while they are here. If we all die of radiation poisoning, it's on to the next adventure. Yay!! I'm excited!

[NancyV]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I have no knowledge of Obama plots Amzer, the collapse is systemic in nature but you can bet there'll be a whole raft of psychopathic types itching to use it for their own advantage as the rules that constrain their behaviour will be gone. Our biggest problem apart from the lack of food, water and medicines will be local wannabe warlords.

Might be good to watch MAD MAX again for a refresher of what the psycho types are like. That kind of a world could be a lot of fun! (if one is a psycho).

[RMorgan]

Posted by NancyV (here)

from Drake:

So you have denigrated the Dragon families and the people associated with them and this process. I’ll be in touch with them in the next couple of days to find out what they want to do about it. Now whether they take this personally or decide to do this publically, I don’t know yet. If it’s a public decision then this will probably go through the courts. If it’s a private decision, you might as well pack your bags and leave town. And that’s basically where this sits at this point.

Ohhhh! I´m soooo afraid of the Dragon family!!!

Jokes apart, Drake isn´t helping to increase his credibility making such kind of childish menaces.

Cheers,

Raf.

[wynderer]

Hi NancyV [belated Happy Birthday] -- i like your 'Better to burn out & not fade away' attitude -- i hope i face what is coming in the same sprit as the character Woody Harrelson played in '2012' --

Posted by NancyV (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
just reminding you all about Dragons & their connection to Reptilians, & that your planet is being nuked while you all discuss a missive from a Dragon guy

Wynderer if the planet is being nuked then we might as well have fun in the meantime. Personally, instead of lamenting and crying I would prefer to fiddle while Rome burns. If anyone thinks they can change things and chooses to do so, more power to them. They are free to enjoy life in any way that pleases them while they are here. If we all die of radiation poisoning, it's on to the next adventure. Yay!! I'm excited!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by NancyV (here)
My take on Drake's talk from yesterday, 5/6, is that he's threatening only Kerry, Camelot, posters on Camelot and staff, at least from the talk yesterday. I don't know if he's threatened anyone on Avalon, but the absurdity of his threatened lawsuit means he could threaten anyone who has posted against him or defamed him, in his mind.

This is the first 11 minutes of the talk yesterday (for those who won't or can't listen to it) where he dealt with the potential for the lawsuits, the dragon societies, etc.

Drake says:... IF it’s made available, and that is that I’m allowed to post corrections to that website on that specific proposition. And without the “I think so and maybe we’ll think about allowing you to post” part of it, as the admin that I talked to via email expressed ...

I am that admin of whom he speaks. Those quoted words are not exactly mine ... but a more scornful paraphrase of mine. My words had a more straight forward business like tone.

Drake apparently has Camelot and Avalon confused.

[Hervé]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I have no knowledge of Obama plots Amzer, the collapse is systemic in nature but you can bet there'll be a whole raft of psychopathic types itching to use it for their own advantage as the rules that constrain their behaviour will be gone. Our biggest problem apart from the lack of food, water and medicines will be local wannabe warlords.

Yep, New World Gangs of all kinds emulating feudal days of old while the "elite" are eating non-GMO popcorn in the balconies.

[YvonneG]

Posted by tenacity1 (here)
I came to this forum because I had heard it was a positive place. Looking at all the hoopla over Drake just makes me wonder.. I've always said that the only thing that separates the far left and the far right is semantics. I stand by that. Cynicism and constant picking at something because you can to attempt to discredit what could be the best thing to happen to this country since God only knows when... is just negativity.that's wht the media and Faux news has done from day one. Has anyone cosidered that there might well be COINTEL pro advocates here putting out negativity to dissuade folks from having hope. If it smells of fear I back away...
. why not take a wait and see attitude, why not give the man the benefit of the doubt.. why not listen and really hear his vocal intonations etc.. The more I am online the more I want to hang out with my garden. Nothing personal nothing derogatory..just my preferences. Spinach is at least nourishing..

Well, Tenacity1, this is a wonderful way to say how I feel, except I am in a major information overload and it actually makes me a little ill to even come on here I am sad to say. Since I also sometimes have to receive the wasted energy of ranting and debating what we actually can only wait and see what is so, I will soon probably not come back at all. I come to check my PMs and will for a week or so after that, I see no reason to do this. I feel anyone that wanted to connect with me has already done that.

The constant twisting of what is said by either side is insane and I wonder just how insane I have become be part of it ever so slightly in a effort to for example say what was actually said on a show of Drakes. People misquote, misspeak and then have a back and forth about what was not said anyway..

All the best...