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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    If I am not mistaken, David Wilcock once mentioned our ET friends helped neutralize the Chernobyl Disaster, did they not?

    Well, we could wait for their help from yonder. Or,

    We can check out our local guy, in the mean time Mr. Tom Beardon http://www.cheniere.org/patent%20application/claim.htm

    Also, did Mr. Ralph Ring say Ottis Carr (?) accidentally discovered that germs, virus, cancer cells can be neutralized by frequency? Does that work on atomic particles? After all, all existence is nothing but vibrations, right?

    How...ever, I truly believe that if Fukushima blows up tomorrow, it is intended so. And there won't be any remedy for it, just like no cures are let known for cancer.

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    I plucked this of Sneakypedia, i was curious how many ( official)tests have been conducted since the introduction of nuclear weapons, i have seen some chart of it somewhere but cant remember where.( found it, it was a Youtube thing its in the post now)

    Its quite sickening to know that the current (normal) background radiation is based on a false number, because errrrrrrrrrrrrr, without the nuclear tests the radiation levels would have been hunderds if not thousends of times lower then the standard for backgroundradiation as it is today ( meaning pre 1940`s). This is even without the radiation released from Chernobyl, Fukushima, depleted uranium ammunitions, dumped nuclear waste, sunk nuclear submarines etc etc.

    Number of tests according to the wiki article by the way is..................2434???????????????????? ( official number, god knows how many unofficial ones have been conducted).

    Below tests conducted between 1945 and 1998, tests after this time period are thus NOT incluided.



    Trinity and beyond part 1 to 7 should be on utube but i found it to be incomplete.

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    Nuclear testing by countryMain article: List of nuclear weapons tests

    Over 2,000 nuclear explosions have been conducted, in over a dozen different sites around the world.
    "Baker Shot", part of Operation Crossroads, a nuclear test by the United States at Bikini Atoll in 1946The nuclear powers have conducted more than 2,000 nuclear test explosions (numbers are approximated, as some test results have been disputed):

    United States: 1,054 tests by official count (involving at least 1,151 devices, 331 atmospheric tests), most at Nevada Test Site and the Pacific Proving Grounds in the Marshall Islands, with 10 other tests taking place at various locations in the United States, including Amchitka Alaska, Colorado, Mississippi, and New Mexico (see Nuclear weapons and the United States for details).[5]


    Soviet Union: 715 tests (involving 969 devices) by official count,[6] most at Semipalatinsk Test Site and Novaya Zemlya, and a few more at various sites in Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Ukraine.


    France: 210 tests by official count (50 atmospheric, 160 underground[7]), four atomic atmospheric tests at C.E.S.M. near Reggane, 13 atomic underground tests at C.E.M.O. near In Ekker in the then-French Algerian Sahara, and nuclear atmospheric tests at Fangataufa and nuclear undersea tests Moruroa in French Polynesia. Additional atomic and chemical warfare tests took place in the secret base B2-Namous, near Ben Wenif, other tests involving rockets and missiles at C.I.E.E.S, near Hammaguir, both in the Sahara.


    United Kingdom: 45 tests (21 in Australian territory, including nine in mainland South Australia at Maralinga and Emu Field, some at Christmas Island in the Pacific Ocean, plus many others in the United States as part of joint test series)[8]


    China: 45 tests (23 atmospheric and 22 underground, at Lop Nur Nuclear Weapons Test Base, in Malan, Xinjiang)[9][10]


    India: Six underground tests (including the first one in 1974), at Pokhran[citation needed].


    Pakistan: Six underground tests, at Ras Koh Hills, Chagai District and Kharan Desert, Kharan District in Balochistan Province[citation needed].

    North Korea: two tests at Hwadae-ri[citation needed].

    Additionally, there may have been at least three alleged but unacknowledged nuclear explosions (see list of alleged nuclear tests). Of these, the only one taken seriously as a possible nuclear test is the Vela Incident, a possible detection of a nuclear explosion in the Indian Ocean in 1979.

    From the first nuclear test in 1945 until tests by Pakistan in 1998, there was never a period of more than 22 months with no nuclear testing. June 1998 to October 2006 was the longest period since 1945 with no acknowledged nuclear tests.

    Date Name Yield (kT) Country Significance

    1945-07-16 Trinity 18-20 USA First fission device test, first plutonium implosion detonation

    1945-08-06 Little Boy 12–18 USA Bombing of Hiroshima, Japan, first detonation of an enriched uranium gun-type device, first use of a nuclear device in military combat.

    1945-08-09 Fat Man 18–23 USA Bombing of Nagasaki, Japan, as of this writing the last use of a nuclear device in military combat.

    1949-08-29 RDS-1 22 USSR First fission weapon test by the USSR

    1952-10-03 Hurricane 25 UK First fission weapon test by the UK

    1952-11-01 Ivy Mike 10,400 USA First cryogenic fusion fuel "staged" thermonuclear weapon, primarily a test device and not weaponized

    1953-08-12 Joe 4 400 USSR First fusion weapon test by the USSR (not "staged")

    1954-03-01 Castle Bravo 15,000 USA First dry fusion fuel "staged" thermonuclear weapon; a serious nuclear fallout accident occurred

    1955-11-22 RDS-37 1,600 USSR First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the USSR (deployable)

    1957-11-08 Grapple X 1,800 UK First (successful) "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the UK

    1960-02-13 Gerboise Bleue 70 France First fission weapon test by France

    1961-10-31 Tsar Bomba 50,000 USSR Largest thermonuclear weapon ever tested—scaled down from its initial 100 Mt design by 50%

    1964-10-16 596 22 PR China First fission weapon test by the People's Republic of China

    1967-06-17 Test No. 6 3,300 PR China First "staged" thermonuclear weapon test by the People's Republic of China

    1968-08-24 Canopus 2,600 France First "staged" thermonuclear test by France

    1974-05-18 Smiling Buddha 12 India First fission nuclear explosive test by India

    1998-05-11 Pokhran-II 60[14] India First potential fusion/boosted weapon test by India; first deployable fission weapon test by India

    1998-05-28 Chagai-I 40[15] Pakistan First fission weapon (boosted) test by Pakistan

    2006-10-09 2006 North Korean nuclear test ~1 North Korea First fission plutonium-based device tested by North Korea; likely resulted as a fizzle

    2009-05-25 2009 North Korean nuclear test 5–15 North Korea First successful fission device tested by North Korea


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    Japan is Nuke free for the first time since 1970. Reactor # 4 still leaking though...

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    Radiation Spreads Worlwide. The Poisoning of Mother Earth
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    Nuclear power "too cheap to meter"!

    On April 12, Japan's nuclear safety agency raised the Fukushima meltdown to level 7, the highest category on the International Nuclear Event Scale. Level 7 was created expressly for the Chernobyl disaster, consisting of "a major release of radiation with a widespread health and environmental impact".

    http://www.silverbearcafe.com/privat...tdown-spre.jpg

    A recent study was prepared for Greenpeace Germany by international nuclear safety expert Dr. Helmut Hirsch. Dr. Hirsch's assessment, based on data published by the French government's radiation protection agency (IRSN) and the Austrian government's Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) found that the total amount of unstable radionuclides Iodine-131 and Caesium-137 released between March 11 and March 23 has been so high that the Fukushima crisis already equates to three INES 7 incidents.

    Release of radiation from the stricken reactors has reached 10,000 teraBequerels (10,000 trillion Bequerels) per hour, measured for radioactive Iodine-131.

    YouTube: "President Obama: 'We Do Not Expect Harmful Levels of Radiation to Reach the U.S.'"



    Radiation in milk in Hawaii is now at least 2,033% above Federal drinking water safety limits. The US safety limit is 3 pCi/l (picoCuries per litre). Note this is the minimum percentage found over EPA requirements. This figure is reached by adding together the Caesium-134 (800%); −137 (633%); and Iodine-131 (600%) levels found in milk.

    http://theintelhub.com/2011/04/11/ja...-water-limits/.

    It should be noted the testing was performed on samples of organic milk.

    Increased radiation has been reported in the municipal drinking water of at least 14 US cities. These are not restricted to the west coast of North America but have occurred in the US midwest and east coast. Where measured, rainwater in every US state and Canadian province have elevated radioactivity. In California, Geiger counter activity has trebled, from 7.5 to 22.5 clicks per minute.

    Rainwater samples taken in San Francisco April 6 measured an increase of 18,100% above Federal standards and included measures of radioactive caesium and Tellurium-132. The west coast Canadian city of Vancouver ordered suspended all mobile radiation testing until further notice after levels of 10,000% safe levels of Iodine-131 were detected. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency refused to test British Columbia milk for radiation.

    On April 4, Japanese government also has requested the Japan Meteorological Society and Japanese universities not to release data from radiation measurement to avoid "public panic". Rainwater samples have all demonstrated elevated concentrations of radioactive Tellurium-02, Ruthenium-04 and Technetium-04.

    280 sensors to measure radiation release from atomic bomb testing were established under the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in 1996. These sensors are detecting levels equivalent to Chernobyl releases. One scientist, Gerhard Wotawa, noted, "I've never seen data like this in my career."

    So how do we deal with disaster? Austria, Germany, Canada and Australia have banned eight episodes of Matt Groening's US anime series, The Simpsons, dealing with nuclear crisis. The Simpsons, now in its 24th season with 480 episodes, has been one of the few outlets to show the greed of nuclear operators, grovelling toadies and a complacent public to a mainstream television audience. Meltdowns caused by jelly doughnuts!

    See http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Sprin...ar_Power_Plant

    Kopp Online, Xander News and other non-English news agencies are reporting that the EU implemented a secret "emergency" order without informing the public which increases the amount of radiation permitted in food by up to 20 times previous food standards.

    According to EU bylaws radiation limits may be raised during a nuclear emergency to prevent food shortages.

    http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/201...-public-13636/

    Japan itself has now restricted rice planting in soil with more than 5,000 Becquerels per kilogram of radioactive caesium, the first time maximum radiation levels have been set for soil anywhere. The Fukushima prefectural government announced on April 6 that rice paddies 20-30 kilometers from the nuclear plant have shown as much as 15,031 Becquerels per kilogram of radioactive caesium.

    It would appear TEPCO dumped 11,500 tons of radioactive runoff into the ocean, 100 times the permissible amount. Although the diplomatic corps was informed beforehand and the Japanese foreign minister stated the release does not violate international law, Iodine-131 was found in seawater at 7.5 million times and radioactive Caesium at 1.1 million times the legal limit. 60,000 tons of radioactive water remain.

    In fact, such dumping clearly violates 1972 international law, the "Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter". As Natural News puts it, "Fukushima has become the dirty bomb of the Pacific."

    Fish in nearby waters are now being measured at 4,000% above the Codex Alimentarius limits for Iodine-131 and 447% of Caesium-137. Radioactive caesium has a half-life of 30 years. Radiation levels for the isotope are not considered "safe" for 10 to 20 times longer. The caesium released today will remain dangerous six centuries from now.

    When one takes into account the conveyor currents of the north Pacific, all seafood will become contaminated. Radioactive seaweed has been found in Puget Sound. Goodbye, sushi!

    We're poisoning the mother of all life on Earth

    The nuclear operator has offered $12 each in compensation to nearby residents. This paltry offer was refused. Economists at Tyler Durden has reported an inevitable economic collapse for Japan following a plunge from 52.9 to 46.4 in private mortgage insurance.

    However, what we're seeing, according to the American NGO Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility is the application of new standards which will drastically raise the levels of radiation allowed in food, water, air and the general environment. Access to internal US Environmental Protection Agency communications has revealed a 1,000% increase for exposure to Strontium-90; a 3,000-100,000% rise for Iodine-131; a 25,000% rise for Nickel-63 in drinking water.

    Any radiation has no safety threshold for human exposure and the EPA's own numbers state that 25% of people exposed to these "new acceptable levels" would develop cancers. The EPA is not required to make its deliberation public or debated by Congress; all that is required to make this Federal regulation is simple publication of the changes in the US government gazette, the Federal Register.

    http://www.collapsenet.com/free-reso...em/723-fallout

    This is being accomplished, of course, to protect the nuclear lobby and its stakeholders from threats to its financial health.

    In addition to cancers, any radiation exposure correlates to an increase in immune system disorders. Thyroid diseases, diabetes, asthma, AIDS, hepatitis, multiple sclerosis, myalgic encephalomyelitis and a huge spectrum of non-specific neurological conditions are expected in the human population. Radioactive iodine attacks thyroid function while radioactive caesium mimics potassium uptake.

    The 'Petkau effect' for ingestion of beta and alpha particles, discovered by Atomic Energy of Canada scientist Dr. Abram Petkau in 1972, draws ominous conclusions for human exposure. Dr. Petkau found that lower doses of ionising radiation are actually more efficient at disrupting human cell activity.

    Uranium-234, previously unreported, has been detected in Hawaii, southern California and Seattle. This is likely to be a product of the alpha decay of the Plutonium-238 found in the Fukushima reactors but Plutonium-238, −239 and −240 have already been released into the atmosphere at Fukushima. Uranium-234 has a half-life 245,500 years, which means that radioactivity will be detectable for half a million years. There will certainly be no people to measure it! South Korea closed 130 schools starting April 7 due to radioactive rain at levels only 1/10 of California's.

    A further Richter 7.1 aftershock on April 8 in Japan, the largest since the March 11 9.0 earthquake, negatively affected at least a further five Japanese nuclear power facilities to varying degrees but some with loss of power. Will Japan become a new Atlantis?

    International shipping has also already been affected with many shipping lines avoiding Japan to prevent radioactive contamination. However, further reports indicate that some irradiated ships have been found in European ports. Japanese cars imported into Russia have been found to have high levels of radiation.

    Some scientists have already declared northern Japan, including Tokyo, uninhabitable and recommended its evacuation. Radiation in Tokyo has been doubling every day since March 11. Video report:

    http://vimeo.com/22003275 and http://vimeo.com/22003021. Evacuated to where, exactly?

    On March 15, Germany bowed to enormous public protest and announced it will continue to phase out nuclear power and shut down, temporarily, seven of its oldest reactors. However, the final shutdown is not planned until 2020.

    On April 12, China announced it was suspending all nuclear construction for 20 months, until December 2012. China had been expected to become the world's largest user of nuclear power, supporting 40% of new development.

    www.globalresearch.ca
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    This is from 2011.

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/03...und-radiation/

    Comparing Japan’s Radiation Release to “Background Radiation”
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    Washington’s Blog strives to provide real-time, well-researched and actionable information. George – the head writer at Washington’s Blog – is a busy professional and a former adjunct professor.

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    Apologists for the type of old, unsafe nuclear reactors which are leaking in Japan argue that the amount of radiation released from Fukushima is small compared to the amount of “background radiation”.

    There Are NO Background Levels of Radioactive Caesium or Iodine

    Wikipedia provides some details on the distribution of cesium-137 due to human activities:

    Small amounts of caesium-134 and caesium-137 were released into the environment during nearly all nuclear weapon tests and some nuclear accidents, most notably the Chernobyl disaster. As of 2005, caesium-137 is the principal source of radiation in the zone of alienation around the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Together with caesium-134, iodine-131, and strontium-90, caesium-137 was among the isotopes with greatest health impact distributed by the reactor explosion.

    The mean contamination of caesium-137 in Germany following the Chernobyl disaster was 2000 to 4000 Bq/m2. This corresponds to a contamination of 1 mg/km2 of caesium-137, totaling about 500 grams deposited over all of Germany.Caesium-137 is unique in that it is totally anthropogenic. Unlike most other radioisotopes, caesium-137 is not produced from its non-radioactive isotope, but from uranium. It did not occur in nature before nuclear weapons testing began. By observing the characteristic gamma rays emitted by this isotope, it is possible to determine whether the contents of a given sealed container were made before or after the advent of atomic bomb explosions. This procedure has been used by researchers to check the authenticity of certain rare wines, most notably the purported “Jefferson bottles”.

    As the EPA notes:

    Cesium-133 is the only naturally occurring isotope and is non-radioactive; all
    other isotopes, including cesium-137, are produced by human activity.

    So there was no “background radiation” for caesium-137 before above-ground nuclear testing and nuclear accidents such as Chernobyl.

    Japan has already, according to some estimates, released 50% of the amount of caesium-137 released by Chernobyl, and many experts say that the Fukushima plants will keep on leaking for months. See this and this. The amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl.

    Likewise, iodine-131 is not a naturally occurring isotope. As the Encyclopedia Britannica notes:

    The only naturally occurring isotope of iodine is stable iodine-127. An exceptionally useful radioactive isotope is iodine-131…

    And New Scientist reports that huge quantities of iodine-131 are being released in Japan:

    Austrian researchers have used a worldwide network of radiation detectors – designed to spot clandestine nuclear bomb tests – to show that iodine-131 is being released at daily levels 73 per cent of those seen after the 1986 disaster.

    (Indeed, some experts are saying that the amount of radioactivity released in Japan already exceeds Chernobyl.)

    Naturally-Occurring Radiation

    There are, of course, naturally occurring radioactive materials.

    But lumping all types of radiation together is misleading … and is comparing apples to oranges.

    As the National Research Council’s Committee to Assess the Scientific Information for the Radiation Exposure Screening and Education Program explains:

    Radioactivity generates radiation by emitting particles. Radioactive materials outside the the body are called external emitters, and radioactive materials located within the body are called internal emitters.

    Internal emitters are much more dangerous than external emitters. Specifically, one is only exposed to radiation as long as he or she is near the external emitter.

    For example, when you get an x-ray, an external emitter is turned on for an instant, and then switched back off.

    But internal emitters steadily and continuously emit radiation for as long as the particle remains radioactive, or until the person dies – whichever occurs first. As such, they are much more dangerous.

    Dr. Helen Caldicott and many other medical doctors and scientists have confirmed this. See this and this.

    As Hirose Takashi notes:

    All of the information media are at fault here I think. They are saying stupid things like, why, we are exposed to radiation all the time in our daily life, we get radiation from outer space. But that’s one millisievert per year. A year has 365 days, a day has 24 hours; multiply 365 by 24, you get 8760. Multiply the 400 millisieverts by that, you get 3,500,000 the normal dose. You call that safe? And what media have reported this? None. They compare it to a CT scan, which is over in an instant; that has nothing to do with it. The reason radioactivity can be measured is that radioactive material is escaping. What is dangerous is when that material enters your body and irradiates it from inside. These industry-mouthpiece scholars come on TV and what to they say? They say as you move away the radiation is reduced in inverse ratio to the square of the distance. I want to say the reverse. Internal irradiation happens when radioactive material is ingested into the body. What happens? Say there is a nuclear particle one meter away from you. You breathe it in, it sticks inside your body; the distance between you and it is now at the micron level. One meter is 1000 millimeters, one micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That’s a thousand times a thousand: a thousand squared. That’s the real meaning of “inverse ratio of the square of the distance.” Radiation exposure is increased by a factor of a trillion. Inhaling even the tiniest particle, that’s the danger. [Interviewer] So making comparisons with X-rays and CT scans has no meaning. Because you can breathe in radioactive material.

    [Takashi] That’s right. When it enters your body, there’s no telling where it will go. The biggest danger is women, especially pregnant women, and little children. Now they’re talking about iodine and cesium, but that’s only part of it, they’re not using the proper detection instruments. What they call monitoring means only measuring the amount of radiation in the air. Their instruments don’t eat. What they measure has no connection with the amount of radioactive material. . . .

    There are few natural high-dose internal emitters. Bananas, brazil nuts and some other foods contain radioactive potassium-40, but in extremely low doses.

    As the American Journal of Public Health noted in 1962:

    Of the radioisotopes originally present in rock-type formations, some may become internal emitters through natural processes. They may be leached or dissolved into ground and surface waters, thus gaining access to man’s water and food supply. For either physical or biological reasons, only a few of the naturally radioactive heavy atoms are important sources of internal radiation exposure. The three most important are believed to be radium 226, the most abundant natural isotope of radium; lead 210, a daughter of radium 226 and of radon 222, and radium 228, a daughter of natural thorium.

    Radon 222 has a half life of less than 4 days. Radium has a much longer half-life. However,radium ions do not form complexes easily, due to highly basic character of ions. Radium compounds are quite rare, occurring almost exclusively in uranium ores

    .

    Some parts of the country are at higher risk of exposure to naturally-occurring radium than others. It is not only those built on top of uranium mines. For example, the American Journal of Public Health article notes:

    Water derived from surface sources such as rivers, lakes, or wells penetrating unconsolidated sand or gravel deposits were, in general, found to contain considerably lower concentrations of radium 226 than wells penetrating deep sandstone formations of Cambrian or pre-Cambrian ages.

    In contrast, cesium-137 – one of the main types of radioactivity being spewed by the Japanese plants – has a much longer half life, and can easily contaminate food and water supplies. As the New York Times noted recently:

    Over the long term, the big threat to human health is cesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years.

    At that rate of disintegration, John Emsley wrote in “Nature’s Building Blocks” (Oxford, 2001), “it takes over 200 years to reduce it to 1 percent of its former level.”

    It is cesium-137 that still contaminates much of the land in Ukraine around the Chernobyl reactor.

    ***

    Cesium-137 mixes easily with water and is chemically similar to potassium. It thus mimics how potassium gets metabolized in the body and can enter through many foods, including milk.

    As the EPA notes in a discussion entitled ” What can I do to protect myself and my family from cesium-137?”:

    Cesium-137 that is dispersed in the environment, like that from atmospheric testing, is impossible to avoid.

    Radioactive iodine can also become a potent internal emitter. As the Times notes:

    Iodine-131 has a half-life of eight days and is quite dangerous to human health. If absorbed through contaminated food, especially milk and milk products, it will accumulate in the thyroid and cause cancer.

    The bottom line is that there is some naturally-occurring background radiation, which can – at times – pose a health hazard (especially in parts of the country with high levels of radioactive radon or radium).

    But cesium-137 and radioactive iodine – the two main radioactive substances being spewed by the leaking Japanese nuclear plants – are not naturally-occurring substances, and can become powerful internal emitters which can cause tremendous damage to the health of people who are unfortunate enough to breathe in even a particle of the substances, or ingest them in food or water. Unlike low-levels of radioactive potassium found in bananas – which our bodies have adapted to over many years – cesium-137 and iodine 131 are brand new, extremely dangerous substances.

    And unlike naturally-occurring internal emitters like radon and radium – whose distribution is largely concentrated in certain areas of the country – radioactive cesium and iodine are spreading not only nationally, but world-wide.

    At the very least, it is important to note that each individual internal emitters behaves differently. They each accumulate in different places in the body, target different organs, mimic different vitamins and minerals, and are excreted differently (or not at all). Therefore, comparing radioactive cesium or iodine with naturally occurring radioactive substances – even those which can become internal emitters – is incorrect and misleading.

    This is not to say that we’re all going to get cancer. Most of use probably won’t. This is solely an attempt to counter the misleading propaganda from apologists for old, unsafe nuclear reactors. For background information on “safe” radiation levels, see this.
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    Kyoto Nuclear Professor: “There is no longer any such thing as clean and safe food” after radiation from Fukushima spread around planet — People who advanced nuclear power should be made to eat the extremely contaminated items.

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    Press Conference on Fukushima Daiichi Disaster
    May 4, 2012 10:00 am ET

    Speaker: Hiroaki Koide, Nuclear Reactor Specialist and Assistant Professor at Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute.

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    Koide: There is no such thing as clean food.

    The Fukushima accident has happened and a tremendous amount of radiation has already been released and spread throughout the planet.

    That’s why there is no longer any such thing as clean and safe food… our only choice is whether we accept that or not.

    I do have one proposal:

    … the people who advanced nuclear power be made to eat the extremely contaminated food.

    People like the managing director of Tepco, or members of the parliament… academics who promoted nuclear power.

    I’d like to build a system that feeds them with contaminated food.

    But that’s not enough. I also have a proposal that the relatively contaminated food be feed to the adults that have accepted the nuclear power industry and the relatively uncontaminated food be fed to the children.

    Saturday, May 05, 2012 05:51 +0900 (JST)

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120505_04.html

    shutting down last nuclear reactor

    Japan's electricity will be nuclear-free for the first time in 42 years this Saturday when the country's last operating commercial reactor is shut down for regular inspections.

    Officials at Hokkaido Electric Power Company say they will begin reducing the power output of the Number 3 reactor at the Tomari Nuclear Power Plant at about 5 PM. They plan to stop the reactor's generator at about 11 PM and complete the shutdown at about 2 AM on Sunday.

    Power companies have submitted the results of stress tests on 19 offline reactors to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency as part of steps to restart the reactors.

    Central government officials say two offline reactors at the Ohi Nuclear Power Plant in Fukui Prefecture meet new safety requirements. They're trying to get people who live nearby to agree to a restart.

    But there's no prospect of a restart of any of the country's 50 commercial reactors.
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    FUKUSHIMA CLASS ACTION for COLLECTIVE EVACUATION- WORLD CITIZENS TRIBUNAL


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    Japan is Nuke free for the first time since 1970. Reactor # 4 still leaking though...

    http://www.commondreams.org/headline...0h6OB.facebook
    Good link,

    50 reactors shut down, must have been a major chunk of energy, so how come japan is still running?

    Makes me wonder, if they just can shut them down and at the same time keep their power supply up, what is powering Japan??

    And can we have some of that too??


    I Googled Cold fusion Japan, this is what i got.............

    its from 2008 but there are more recent publications, feel free to drop them in here please, they even did a public demonstration in India, apparently they want it and are interested in the technology.

    Here is the article,

    Cold fusion success in Japan gets warm reception in India
    dinsdag 27 mei 2008 7:02:48 by admin

    By K.S. Jayaraman
    Bangalore, May 27 (IANS) Researchers in Japan have given a live public demonstration of their cold fusion device, a historic experiment that is likely to revive global interest in this controversial method of energy generation that was earlier debunked as nonsense. A report in the California-based New Energy Times says the tabletop device built by Osaka University physicist Yoshiaki Arata and his associate Yue Chang Zhang continuously generated excess energy in the form of heat and also produced helium particles.

    “The demonstration showed their method was highly reproducible,” the report quoted physicist Akito Takahashi, one of the 60 persons from industry and universities who witnessed it, as saying.

    The demonstration held on May 22 has drawn immediate praise from Mahadeva Srinivasan, a cold fusion pioneer and formerly associate director of physics at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) in Mumbai.

    “The cold fusion community is excited and is reverberating with news of a live public demo,” Srinivasan told IANS from Chennai. “The field is truly ripe for Indian labs to enter and it is hoped that we won’t miss the bus once again.”

    The fusion process that powers the sun requires extreme temperature and pressure to force hydrogen nuclei fuse and release energy. Achieving fusion at room temperature was considered impossible until 1989 when American scientists Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons startled the world with their tabletop experiment.

    They connected a battery to a pair of palladium electrodes immersed in a jar of water containing deuterium (heavier form of hydrogen) and showed their electrolytic cell produced heat energy in excess of what was consumed. They claimed that deuterium nuclei were being packed into the palladium’s lattice in such a way for fusion to take place.

    Later it was shown by several groups including Srinivasan and Padmanabha Krishnagopala Iyengar at BARC in the early 1990s that the reaction produced tritium as well as helium indicating that cold fusion was real. However, further work at BARC was abandoned due to denunciation of cold fusion by mainstream scientists and the US government.

    Srinivasan hopes that Arata’s public demonstration in Japan will give new birth to cold fusion research in India.

    Arata, who is the recipient of Japan’s highest award, the Emperor’s Prize, is the first person to have performed thermonuclear fusion research in Japan. Arata and his colleague Zhang have been reporting their work on cold fusion at various conferences and in Japanese journals for the last 10 years.

    In recent years, they have moved away from electrolysis and switched over to direct loading of deuterium gas into a matrix of zirconium oxide containing palladium nanoparticles. In their latest demonstration, they showed excess heat production commenced almost instantaneously when pure deuterium gas at high pressure was let in.

    “The high operating temperature, instant response and reliability of this device make it the most practical form of cold fusion yet developed,” said Jed Rothwell, author of a popular book on cold fusion and another witness to the demonstration.

    The Japanese demo comes three months after some of India’s leading nuclear physicists at a meeting in Bangalore formally recommended to the government to revive cold fusion research in India.

    “The long neglect of this area (of research) by India must end now,” Malur Ramaswamy Srinivasan, former secretary to the Department of Atomic Energy, told the meeting held at the National Institute of Advanced Studies in Bangalore on Jan 9.

    According to Mahadeva Srinivasan, the Central Electrochemical Research Institute in Karaikudi, the Indian Institute of Technology in Chennai, and the Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research near Chennai have shown interest in restarting the work.

    He said the field of cold fusion (which has been renamed as low energy nuclear reactions or LENR) has matured sufficiently to claim recognition as a valid new branch of science.

    “If all that is claimed by the LENR community is validated,” he said, “the prospects of this being developed into a ‘third alternative option’ for generating nuclear energy in the 21st century, besides fission and thermonuclear fusion, are bright.”

    (K.S. Jayaraman can be contacted at killugudi@hotmail.com)


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    It just blows my mind that there continues to be no mention of this in the main stream. I mean it's just insane!
    Here's why:

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...r-america.html

    The theme of this blog: If the truth is told about Fukushima's #4 Mach I reactor, it will prompt a review of all U.S. Mach I and Mach II reactors. More than 30% of all nuclear power in the US is derived from Mach I & II plants.

    The 'fix' (to the USA reactors alone) will cost 100's of millions of dollars and they simply don't want to pay it.

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    Quote Posted by Abhaya (here)
    It just blows my mind that there continues to be no mention of this in the main stream. I mean it's just insane!
    Blows our mind too in Australia!

    Mike Adams today:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/035789_Fu...lume-Gate.html
    http://www.naturalnews.com/035788_Fu...radiation.html
    From above link:
    "(NaturalNews) Kyoto, Japan -- On 30 April, seventy-two Japanese NGO organizations lead by Shut Tomari and Green Action send an urgent request to the UN and Japanese government urging immediate action to stabilize the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel. The letter was endorsed by experts from Japan and abroad.

    The letter warned that the seriously damaged Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. If an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire.

    The letter urged the United Nations to organize a Nuclear Safety Summit to take up the crucial problem of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool. The letter stated that the United Nations should establish an independent assessment team on Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 and coordinate international assistance in order to stabilize the unit's spent nuclear fuel and prevent radiological consequences with potentially catastrophic consequences.

    Letters were sent to both UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda, the latter asking that Japan ask immediately for the UN's help.

    Nearly all of the 10,893 spent fuel assemblies at the Fukushima Daiichi plant sit in pools vulnerable to future earthquakes, with roughly 85 times more long-lived radioactivity than released at Chernobyl.

    Kaori Izumi of Shut Tomari stated, "Fukushima Daiichi is no longer a Japanese issue but is an international issue. It is imperative for the Japanese government and the international community to work together on this crisis before it becomes too late."

    Nuclear experts from the US and Japan such as Arnie Gundersen, Robert Alvarez, Hiroaki Koide, Masashi Goto, and Mitsuhei Murata, a former Japanese ambassador to Switzerland, and, Akio Matsumura, a former UN diplomat have continually warned against the high risk of the Fukushima Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool.

    Shut Tomari and Green Action are seeking endorsements from civil organizations abroad (deadline 20 May). More Japanese civil organizations are expected to sign on in addition to the seventy-two organizations. (Deadline for signatures: 20 May.)

    For full text of letter/endorsements/signatories, see: http://wp.me/p1FMPy-B6

    Press release issued by:
    Shut Tomari (Japan),
    1-2, 6-4 Higashisapporo, Shiroishi-ku, Sapporo 003-0006 Japan
    TEL: +81-90-2695-1937 FAX:+81-11-826-3796 email: kaori-izumi@ta3.so-net.ne.jp
    Green Action (Japan),
    Suite 103, 22-75 Tanaka Sekiden-cho, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto 606-8203 Japan
    Tel: +81-75-701-7223 Fax: +81-75-702-1952 email: info@greenaction-japan.org "
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    This is our "News" concerning Japan google filtered to "over the Last Week".
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    Japan's last nuclear reactor shuts down today, a year after Fukushima disaster

    From: AFP
    May 05, 2012 4:03PM


    Fukushima

    Since last year's March 11 quake and tsunami set off a meltdown at the Fukushima nuclear power station, no Japanese reactor stopped for checkups has gone back into operation. Source: AP

    THE last working nuclear reactor in Japan is to be switched off today, leaving the country without nuclear power just over a year after the world's worst atomic accident in a quarter of a century.

    As technicians ready to close down the Number 3 unit at Tomari in Hokkaido, the debate over whether Japan needs nuclear power has been reignited, amid increasingly shrill warnings of summer power blackouts.

    Hokkaido Electric Power, which runs the plant, said they would begin inserting control rods today that would halt the chain reaction and bring the reactor to “cold shutdown” some time on Monday.

    The shuttering will mark the first time since the 1970s that resource-poor and energy-hungry Japan has been without nuclear power, a technology that had provided a third of its electricity until meltdowns at Fukushima.

    The tsunami-sparked disaster forced tens of thousands of people from their homes in an area around the plant, some of whom may never be allowed to return.
    Rec Coverage 28 Day pass

    It did not directly claim any lives, but has devastated the local economy, leaving swathes of land unfarmable as radiation spewed from the ruins.

    With the four reactors at Fukushima crippled by the natural disaster, public suspicion of nuclear power grew, so much so that no reactor shut for routine safety checks has since been allowed to restart.

    “A new Japan with no nuclear power has begun,'' said Gyoshu Otsu, a 56-year-old monk who joined a protest against nuclear power in front of the industry ministry in Tokyo which supervises the nation's power utilities.

    “Generating nuclear power is like a criminal act as a lot of people are still suffering,'' said Otsu, wearing white Buddhist clothes. “If we allow the situation as it is now, another accident will occur.''

    Protest organiser Masao Kimura said: “It's a symbolic day today. Now we can prove that we will be able to live without nuclear power".

    When the fission reaction stops tonight, Japan's entire stable of 50 reactors will be offline, despite increasingly urgent calls from the power industry and bodies like the OECD, who fear dire consequences for the world's third largest economy.

    Last month, Kansai Electric Power, which supplies mid-western Japan, including the commercial hubs of Osaka, Kyoto and Kobe, said a hot summer could see supply fall nearly 20 percent short of demand.

    Kyushu Electric Power, covering an area further west, as well as Hokkaido Electric Power also said they will struggle as air conditioning gets cranked up in Japan's sweltering summer.

    Kansai Electric last month booked a $US3 billion ($2.9 billion) annual loss, turning around a $US1.5 billion profit the year earlier on the increased cost of using previously mothballed thermal fuel plants.

    A week earlier, Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda's government gave the green light to restarting reactors at the Oi nuclear plant, run by Kansai Electric, but regulators still have to convince those living near the plant.

    In order to be fired up again, reactors must now pass International Atomic Energy Agency-approved stress tests and get the consent of their host communities. It is this last hurdle that is proving hardest to overcome.

    Critics of nuclear power say Japan has managed thus far with its ever dwindling pool of reactors and need not look back.

    Environmental campaign group Greenpeace said Friday the country should concentrate on ramping up renewables and boosting energy efficiency.

    “Despite the closure of all reactors, security of electricity supply is not threatened in Japan,'' said Hisayo Takada, Greenpeace Japan climate and energy campaigner.

    “The 2012 summer peak in electricity demand can be managed with energy efficiency, proper load balancing, and energy conservation.''

    Takada said recent warnings that another big earthquake could strike seismically volatile Japan at any time meant the technology was not to be trusted."
    SOURCE:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226347555389
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    "Japan nuclear-free, for now
    Evacuees in protective suits remember the Fukushima disaster.

    http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/abcasiap...nnuke_0505.flv
    VIDEO from Australia Network News
    Japan switches off final nuclear reactor

    Created: 05/05/2012

    Last Updated: Sat, 5 May 2012 18:59:00 +1000

    A Japanese power firm has started switching off the country's last working reactor, leaving it without nuclear power for the first time in four decades.

    Hokkaido Electric Power, which operates the Tomari plant, said they expected to bring the reactor to a "cold shutdown" some time on Monday.

    Nuclear technology had provided a third of Japan's electricity until last year's tsunami sparked meltdowns at the Fukushima plant.

    The disaster forced tens of thousands of people from their homes in an area around the plant -- some of whom may never be allowed to return.

    It did not directly claim any lives, but has devastated the local economy, leaving swathes of land unfarmable as radiation spewed from the ruins.

    Public suspicion of nuclear power has increased since the the four reactors at Fukushima were crippled, so much so that no reactor shut for routine safety checks has been allowed to restart.

    Summer worries
    Power providers have warned a hot summer could see supply fall nearly 20 per cent short of demand.

    Kansai Electric, which supplies the commercial hubs of Osaka, Kyoto and Kobe, recently posted a $US3 billion annual loss, citing the increased cost of using thermal fuel plants. The previous year they posted a profit of around $1.5 billion.

    Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda's government has given the green light to restarting reactors at the Oi nuclear plant, run by Kansai Electric, but regulators still have to convince those living near the plant.

    In order to be fired up again, reactors must now pass International Atomic Energy Agency-approved stress tests and get the consent of their host communities.

    Environmental concern
    Critics of nuclear power say Japan has managed thus far with its ever dwindling pool of reactors and need not look back.

    Environmental campaign group Greenpeace said the country should concentrate on ramping up renewables and boosting energy efficiency.

    "The 2012 summer peak in electricity demand can be managed with energy efficiency, proper load balancing, and energy conservation," Greenpeace Japan spokesman Hisayo Takada said.

    More than 5,000 demonstrators staged a rally in Tokyo on Saturday to oppose nuclear power.

    "We have to take action now so that Fukushima should be the last nuclear accident not only in Japan but all over the world," said Mizuho Fukushima, of the opposition Social Democratic Party, at the rally."
    SOURCE:http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au...50.htm?desktop
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    NOTE:NOT MSM!

    Fukushima Nuclear Crisis Update for May 1st – May 3rd, 2012
    Blogpost by Christine McCann - May 4, 2012 at 2:47 1 comment

    Here’s the latest of our news bulletins from the ongoing crisis at Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

    State of Nuclear Politics in Japan

    Japan’s last remaining nuclear reactor, #3 at the Tomari nuclear power plant in Hokkaido Prefecture, will go offline on Saturday, marking the first time since 1970 that all nuclear reactors in the country are idle, and only the second time that has happened since the nation first began using nuclear power in 1966. “Despite the closure of all reactors, security of electricity supply is not threatened in Japan. The 2012 summer peak in electricity demand can be managed with energy efficiency, proper load balancing, and energy conservation,” said Hisayo Takada, Greenpeace Japan Climate and Energy Campaigner. “The Fukushima Daiichi disaster has shown us that Japan’s nuclear plants and surrounding institutions are in no shape to deal with another major earthquake—which experts warn is almost certain to happen in the next few years,” said Takada. “Should another meltdown occur, it is likely that it will break the back of Japan’s economy, and many more people will suffer. It is simply not worth the risk when the clean and safe alternative of renewable energy is at our fingertips.”

    A new study by Kyodo News shows that electric power companies made 28.7 billion yen ($360 million) in contributions to at least 60 local governments over the past five years through March 31, 2012—and then passed those costs onto consumers, calling them “necessary costs for power generation.” In essence, consumers footed the bill for monies paid to coax cities into hosting power plants. The investigation revealed 650 payments, although many of the donations were made anonymously, and because the government does not require utilities to publicly declare the donations, that number may actually be far higher.

    Japan’s “Cool Biz” campaign began this week, a month early, in an effort to conserve power. The initiative encourages workers to dress more casually in cooler clothing, drink water, and use fans rather than air conditioning. Normally, Cool Biz run from June through September, but this year, it began in May and will continue through October.

    State of the Reactors

    A new examination of the operation manual for the chief worker on duty at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant reveals that TEPCO changed the manual to advise against immediately using isolation condensers to cool reactors in the case of a nuclear disaster, and instead, advised opening the main steam safety relief valve. Experts say that move may have exacerbated the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. “Opening the safety relief valves abruptly could cause a sharp reduction in pressure and boil the water in the reactor. That could create a situation akin to heating an empty kettle on the stove. If the isolation condensers had been fully functional they could have obstructed the development of the crisis,” said Toyoshi Fuketa, who is deputy director of the Nuclear Safety Research Center at the Japan Atomic Energy Agency (JAEA). Isolation condensers are also located at the Tsuruga Nuclear Power Plant, but that manual contradicts TEPCO’s, and advises workers to use the condensers immediately.

    TEPCO

    Only 45% of TEPCO’s business customers have agreed to pay a recent 17% rate hike, revealing widespread frustration with the utility and raising questions about whether or not the government will approve a 10% rate increase for residential customers this summer. In the meantime, the Kawaguchi Chamber of Commerce in Saitama Prefecture has filed a request with Japan’s Fair Trade Commission in an effort to protest the rate increase, claiming an abuse of TEPCO’s monopoly on power sales in the region.

    Efforts to Restart Oi Reactors

    After meeting with Ministry of Economy, Trade, and Industry (METI) officials, Kyoshi Yamada, a Kyoto official who leads the municipal crisis team, said that the government has failed to convince his team that restarting reactors #3 and #4 at the Oi power plant in Fukui Prefecture is safe. He criticized the new standards, saying it was unclear how much the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) had participated in crafting them, and implied that Kansai Electric, which operates the plant, had too much input. Yamada noted that the revised standards do not reflect concerns of local residents, who remain unconvinced that the reactors are not at risk for a nuclear accident.

    Meanwhile, officials from both METI and NISA encountered strong resistance when they met with representatives from the town of Obama in Fukui Prefecture. Regular citizens were barred from attending the meeting due to space constraints at the venue. The meeting was attended by 122 representatives from the city assembly, parent-teacher organizations, and the farming, forestry, and fisheries industries. Attendees criticized the fact that the government has no adequate evacuation plans in spite of the fact that the area around the plant has few roads and is serviced by only one train line. Twenty thousand people live within 10 km of the Oi power plant; of these, 70% live in Obama. The vast majority of these were not admitted to the meeting. One resident said, “I have tons of questions to ask the government. But we do not even have an opportunity to ask them. My fears are turning to distrust.”

    Jakucho Setouchi, a Buddhist nun and novelist, is participating in an ongoing hunger strike by anti-nuclear activists who have been protesting the restart of the Oi reactors in front the of the Industry Ministry since last Fall. Setouchi, who is 89 years old, said, “I can’t hand over the current Japan to the younger generation,” noting that the country has never been in worse shape during her lifetime.

    Contamination

    Testing by the Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare revealed excessive levels of radioactive cesium in 337 samples of 51 different foods over the course of the last month. On April 1, the Ministry lowered the legal cesium limit for general foods to 100 Bq/kg. Contaminated foods included ****ake mushrooms, bamboo shoots, wild fern plant, wild butterbur buds, sea bass, and flatfish. Fifty-five of these samples exceeded 500 Bq/kg. No drinking water or baby food samples exceeded government limits.

    Decontamination

    Yukio Edano, the head of METI, has signed an agreement with Aset Isekeshev, head of Kazakhstan’s Ministry of Industry and New Technologies, to allow Toshiba Corporation to research decontamination methods at Kazakhstan’s atomic energy institute, Semipalatinsk. The Soviet Union conducted over 400 nuclear tests there beginning in 1949. Toshiba is hoping to use the information to assist with decontamination at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, as well as to prevent further nuclear disasters.

    Other Nuclear News

    An activist from Greenpeace, using a paraglider, circled the Bugey nuclear plant and dropped a smoke bomb onto the roof of a reactor, in an effort to highlight the vulnerability of France’s nuclear plants to airplane crashes and terrorist attacks. The plant is operated by EDF. Nuclear power is playing a major role in the country’s upcoming presidential elections; the action occurred just hours before a televised debate between President Nicolas Sarkozy and candidate Francois Hollande. Sophia Majnoni d’Intignano, Nuclear Campaigner at Greenpeace France, said, “This over flight shows the vulnerability of the French nuclear site to an air attack. While Germany took account of a plane crash in it’s [reactor] safety tests, France still refuses to analyze this risk for our reactors.”
    SOURCE:http://www.greenpeace.org/internatio...-m/blog/40267/
    (Also LINKS in the TEXT on the SOURCE PAGE)
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    And this is all we have from the mobile phone network news from Japan:

    Fatal Tornado Strikes Japan
    May 6, 2012; 3:00 PM ET


    People look at damaged buildings after a tornado struck Tsukuba city, northeast of Tokyo, Sunday, May 6, 2012. The tornado tore through the area, injuring at least 30 people, destroying dozens of homes and leaving thousands more without electricity. (AP Photo/Yomiuri Shimbun, Tetsu Joko)

    A deadly tornado struck the Japanese city of Tsukuba on Sunday, leaving devastation in its wake. Over 30 were injured, with at least one death, the AP reports.

    Tsukuba, a city only 40 miles away from Tokyo, took considerable damage, with over 200 homes damaged by the twister.

    The one death from the tornado was a 14-year old boy. Details about how the boy died have not been released, other than that he died in the Tsukuba Medical Center from injuries obtained during the storm.

    Outside of the direct damage caused by the lethal tornado, the storm's lightning and gusty winds knocked out power to over 24,000 homes, according to the Tokyo Electric Power Company.

    While Japan is more famously known for its many intense earthquakes, severe weather does occur on the islands from time to time.


    This video of the tornado that hit the Japanese city of Tuskuba was taken by YouTube user Junko Tateishi
    by, Meteorologist Evan Duffy
    SOURCE:http://www.accuweather.com/en/weathe...es-japan/64849
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    Not that this was on the mobile network in this depth,just a smal snippet of onfo and the numbers were incorrect according to this page.
    Has this even been discussed yet?
    Just found out from my Partner as She reads the Mobile News,then we re0check the Net for more.

    Lots of High Profilers have been moving to NZ and other places South for a while,James Cameron being one of them....this raised alarm bells for us at home considering his,Movies,his Deep Sea Diving conquest and with his latest investment:
    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci...423-1xflj.html

    Makes Barry Wonder as we say here.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    I very strongly that all other threads should be locked down until this thread and other threads supporting the nuclear fallout from Fukushima are taken more seriously.

    I am mortified that very few seem to understand that millions are dying right NOW . . . a very slow death from horrible cancers and radiation poisoning.

    Are we all so lulled to sleep, numb and just plain stupid that we do not understand every living being is being radiated now and we will suffer an ELE event if there is another earthquake in Japan.

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    bump -- yes, i think most are too dumbed down etc -- in fact i was thinking of starting a thread called 'Are the Timelines Already Diverging?

    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    I very strongly that all other threads should be locked down until this thread and other threads supporting the nuclear fallout from Fukushima are taken more seriously.

    I am mortified that very few seem to understand that millions are dying right NOW . . . a very slow death from horrible cancers and radiation poisoning.

    Are we all so lulled to sleep, numb and just plain stupid that we do not understand every living being is being radiated now and we will suffer an ELE event if there is another earthquake in Japan.

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    The lack off interest in this thread is truly mindblowing,

    is either the news presented so scary people dont even want to contemplate the impact it will have and allready has?

    Or i cant see radiation therefore it is not there, i will worry about my thyroid gland when i need to buy XXXlarge turtleneck sweaters to hide them?

    Or is becoming infertile not a problem for you because you dont like kids anyway and do you not give a rats ass about the generations after we are gone?

    And really people................ this hoping for ET/ED/Divine intervention is ridiculous in this particular case ( and many others too by the way), dont you think that if they had the best in mind for us, this whole disaster would not have happened anyway? ( either we are protected from harm, or we are not).

    Or do people just want to be left the f@ck alone because live is hard enough as it is?

    Or do we allready think we are beyond rescue from all of the above?

    Or is the bringer of any realistic bad news viewed like just another turd in some random punchbowl wich was already filled with floaters who are less hallelujah then the general desperate wishfull thinking consensus currently present at this otherwise great forum? Even the nay sayers to Drake, ascention, the financial situation, DW, BF dont seem to pay attention to the in this thread presented subject.

    Anyway, to me this means................ DRAKE...........IS........... a mayor distraction from other serious issues which allready ARE present and CAN be discussed WITHOUT speculation, simply because the fact IS, RADIATION is HIGHER then ever before ( previously set standard levels are being raised on a global scale to make everything look like there is nothing to see here, please move along), i feel we can can get a lot of data rise to the surface when we making finding the data a collective efford. It just takes a few diggers more who know what they are looking for, so if you feel you can dig something up and you know what you are talking about, PLEASE RISE TO THIS OCCASION.

    We are screwed enough as it is allready, lets please get something good out of this subject, no world changes will do you any good when you are not alive to live a healthy life and thrive on this planet.

    7 billion people will stand a better change or at least be better informed about whats really going on.

    Thank you.

    It is my hope and sincere wish this will be adressed.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    Well Beast, if you call 4253 visitors a lack of interest, I find that

    mindblowing. LOL

    My best friends wife, living 50 meters away discovered 3 weeks

    ago that she has 3 tumours in her lungs, 1 on right shoulder,

    1 at the center of the spine. WE (she) lives with this on a daily

    basis. Im totally convinced that a lot of radioactve particles are

    showering down on us all the time. We ( I and Maria) are taking

    Potassium iodine, daily. We grow our own food, which doesnt mean

    that they are free from toxins, including radioactive fallouts. We are all

    the time surrounded and penetrated by at least 100 000 different and

    mostly very little known chemicals. We are not going to run to the southern

    hemisphere, and not anywhere else.

    If we will survive, it´ll be here under those circumstances.

    But could you please ask those multicriminal companies

    to stop the Japanese fallout and maybe take another deep

    look at all the other stupidities they are up to?

    If you, yourself is gonna take some constructive actions for

    or against anything, I wish you good luck with that.


    All is well


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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

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    Well Beast, if you call 4253 visitors a lack of interest, I find that

    mindblowing. LOL

    My best friends wife, living 50 meters away discovered 3 weeks

    ago that she has 3 tumours in her lungs, 1 on right shoulder,

    1 at the center of the spine. WE (she) lives with this on a daily

    basis. Im totally convinced that a lot of radioactve particles are

    showering down on us all the time. We ( I and Maria) are taking

    Potassium iodine, daily. We grow our own food, which doesnt mean

    that they are free from toxins, including radioactive fallouts. We are all

    the time surrounded and penetrated by at least 100 000 different and

    mostly very little known chemicals. We are not going to run to the southern

    hemisphere, and not anywhere else.

    If we will survive, it´ll be here under those circumstances.

    But could you please ask those multicriminal companies

    to stop the Japanese fallout and maybe take another deep

    look at all the other stupidities they are up to?

    If you, yourself is gonna take some constructive actions for

    or against anything, I wish you good luck with that.


    All is well


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    Noted Jorr, the amount of visitors is not the problem, there are plenty. its the lack of response, just look at the times i posted, i found out a lot in just about ONE hour, not very much effort was put into that, sitting on my ass and dig a bit ( the digging is limited due my lack off computer skills).

    I am sorry about your best friends wife, this must put a heavy toll on everybody involved especially her, i hope she is at least doing reasonably well and receives the care and love she needs at this time.

    Radiation is raining down all the time allright, taking the potassium iodine is a good thing.

    I did not suggest everybody should be running to the southern hemisphere ( crowds up pretty quick with not a lot of room to grow some veggies left).

    I am sure lots of people allready asked the large multinationals to change their ways etc etc, did not help ( see current situation) I did not ask for people to butt heads with corporations in my above post, what i asked for was maybe, just maybe a hour of their time and see what they can come up with information wise.

    All the speculation on my part about the how comes and why`s people seem to be less interested in this information was just and only that, speculation on my part, it were my questions ( and only a few).

    I too see myself limited to the few skills i have and its not possible to expect from anybody as a single person to make the change, but thank you for wishing me well while i try, feel free to join in. ( this invitation is ment for everybody off course, welcome!!)

    The bottom of my previous post was at least pretty clear, a request for people who know were and what to look for to participate in pulling up information and posting it, the whole previous text might be read as a provocation or an invitation.

    Thank you for your response.

    ED
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    I think what we are dealing with is so overwhelming that it is so overwhelming. All of the supplements to remember to take, all of the things to look out for, all of it.

    I am just posting because this is way down on the PA food for thought chain.

    How many out there can afford to move to the way down south, much less convince all of their family to if they could afford it.

    Then is all of the so called alternative sources reliable? We have been misguided before, (Charles fiasco) just to name one. Those that have have been around here for a bit have seen a lot that is a flash in the pan. Is there a truly reliable source out there?

    Not to make light of the situation, serious indeed...

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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    G'day All,

    Before I post anything I want to say that it is, in my view, always important to present an anti-nuclear dialogue. The history of radiation exposure (whether deliberate, accidental or through negligence) by Corporations and Governments throughout the world is something that should always be bought to the forefront and must, again in my opinion, be remembered. The way in which the various societal discursive processes are framed is directly influenced by very powerful, controlling and wealthy groups who want any opposition to the "nuclear option" put in the extremist/activist classification. Until the tragic sequence of events at Fukushima this had been largely successful.

    An opponent of the "nuclear industry" for nearly four decades, Helen Caldicott (yet another Australian by the way, we really are opinionated colonials ain't we) has been a vocal advocate for the medical professions fight against any acceptance of a "nuclear option" for reasons of war, energy and certain medical practices. The following talk was given by her at the 'Chernobyl Congress 2011' to a group of her peers, all medical practitioners, a month after the Japanese tsunami (that led to the Fukushima accident). The talk is titled "The Medical and Political Implications of the Nuclear Fuel Cycle" and includes EMP's, Yeltsin, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, the reptilian brain, and much more (it really is an exceptional presentation though please remember that she is talking to a certain "crowd" if you don't agree with aspects of her presentation):


    Source: Watch on Vimeo


    http://vimeo.com/22579986

    The IPPNW report on Chernobyl ('The Health Effects Of Chernobyl: 25 Years After the Reactor Catastrophy') mentioned by Stubblebine is available from the Chernobyl Congress website. For those interested much of the source information for Stubblebine's video appears to come from Akio Matsumura.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    Thanks panopticon,many here in Australia seem to think that this is not a big deal for us...well yet anyway as we are NOT getting any decent MSM coverage,as you would know.

    I'm spreading the word as much as I can here on local Forums as I hope you are too.

    Not just because of our safety, but we are talking about real people suffering overseas AND if this thing goes off, some seem to think that it will only effect a certain area of the world when this is clearly not the case.

    I hate to say it but a lot of Aussies are just too layed back,something I hate to admit.

    I just found another site that peeps here might be interested to know about:
    http://www.fairewinds.com/fukushima

    This situation haunts me everyday now as I'm learning more and more, but thanks for all the info on protection and treatments too.

    To those who are suffering,my heart goes out to you.

    Thanks to Bill for bringing this to light and to all those who have contributed thus far...it makes me proud not only to be an Avalonian,but to be a part of the caring Human Race.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

    Hello Fire Dragon,
    I agree whole heartedly with you, reactor no.4 was emptied and was undergoing repairs at the time of the Earthquake, although it had some serious damage it was repaired, so why are we getting this story now. I Know Jim Stone has some answers to this and think people should look at other sources of information before making a conclusion go to :- http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima1.html

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