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    Quote Posted by tenacity1 (here)
    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    Well, Tenacity1, this is a wonderful way to say how I feel, except I am in a major information overload and it actually makes me a little ill to even come on here I am sad to say. Since I also sometimes have to receive the wasted energy of ranting and debating what we actually can only wait and see what is so, I will soon probably not come back at all. I come to check my PMs and will for a week or so after that, I see no reason to do this. I feel anyone that wanted to connect with me has already done that.

    The constant twisting of what is said by either side is insane and I wonder just how insane I have become be part of it ever so slightly in a effort to for example say what was actually said on a show of Drakes. People misquote, misspeak and then have a back and forth about what was not said anyway..

    All the best...
    Thanks Yvonne. I assumed my posts had been ignored because I was a "hope addict" as some cynical poster implied.. Fact is I am an intuitive..not by choice, not by seeking to be, I was born that way. It's a burden as I hear another person describe this darn "gift" I've learned to not let the negativity dissuade me although , like you , it can bring me down a bit on days my health is struggling. Don't leave Avalon.I sense there are more good people here than folks who want to stir the pot. Taking breaks from the "net" and being outdoors always renews my spirit. Hope you can find things to do that give you peace as well. I sincerely hope you won't leave. At least if you stayed,, I'd know I'm not the LOne Ranger.. peace be with you
    You are not the lone ranger by any means... lots of us here that beat the Drake drum - don't let those who disagree or those who may attempt to attack dissuade you from your gut sense that there could be a Plan and the Plan could become publicly operational and that the Plan could be successful with minimal downside. And there's nothing wrong with hoping so too. Its part of being human to have hope.

    Real good news came out of the Fulford report, looks like Drake has been validated by Fulford's sources and looks like the information they are independently receiving is on the basic same page. Just prepare to be helpful when the big shoes start to drop. That's our responsibility - remain tenacious my friend... justoneman
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    Quote Posted by tenacity1 (here)
    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    Well, Tenacity1, this is a wonderful way to say how I feel, except I am in a major information overload and it actually makes me a little ill to even come on here I am sad to say. Since I also sometimes have to receive the wasted energy of ranting and debating what we actually can only wait and see what is so, I will soon probably not come back at all. I come to check my PMs and will for a week or so after that, I see no reason to do this. I feel anyone that wanted to connect with me has already done that.

    The constant twisting of what is said by either side is insane and I wonder just how insane I have become be part of it ever so slightly in a effort to for example say what was actually said on a show of Drakes. People misquote, misspeak and then have a back and forth about what was not said anyway..

    All the best...
    Thanks Yvonne. I assumed my posts had been ignored because I was a "hope addict" as some cynical poster implied.. Fact is I am an intuitive..not by choice, not by seeking to be, I was born that way. It's a burden as I hear another person describe this darn "gift" I've learned to not let the negativity dissuade me although , like you , it can bring me down a bit on days my health is struggling. Don't leave Avalon.I sense there are more good people here than folks who want to stir the pot. Taking breaks from the "net" and being outdoors always renews my spirit. Hope you can find things to do that give you peace as well. I sincerely hope you won't leave. At least if you stayed,, I'd know I'm not the LOne Ranger.. peace be with you
    If I thought it did any good to continue to beat the drum here, I would, after continuing to take long breaks. However, people stuck in fear have no desire to see anything, and for me to think I can make them see it, is insanity. All I have really wanted in the end was to see those so opposed to have a bit of an open-mind to the possibility that the continued almost attacking what others say serves no one. I for one refuse to participate in this. I feel like I am adding energy to it all.

    My time and energy are much better spent in doing things that will make a concrete difference locally and for myself in my meditation and spiritual practice.

    I am not sure if anyone has considered that this PLAN will happen with or without our help. I say this to both "sides".

    Anyway, thanks for your response and I wish you all the best. At one point when I was going hot and heavy, it took me several days to recover. Figure how much time and energy I could have devoted for our local efforts?? A lot!

    IN the end all of this is just words and opinions, as I have said before, what is real is going to stay real.

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Hello everybody. I have been watching patiently while I decided what I wanted to post. I think there is much to be said.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post483938

    Here I have clarified one thing and merely reiterated what has already been emphasized but is still being ignored by many. I have also requested further clarification regarding certain information.
    to me, that pic looks like it was drawn by someone who saw a few symbols online, and tried to have a go themselves. there's no arrangement.
    usually, there is so much encoded into stuff like that, it has to be almost perfect in its layout. whereas that pic fails on a basic level.
    what response other than laughter, and a loss in credibilty, are you hoping to gain by it?.
    (i will look so stupid if it turns out to be their official logo!)
    and it does seem that you're climbing down slightly from the potency of your original assertions, while making it look like your holding your position.
    at least, thats how it seems to me. i'm happy to be corrected on that.

    can i ask you if you are completely happy with the assertions you originally made, or,
    was there anything you said, that on reflection maybe should have been looked at a bit deeper before posting?

    this isnt meant as an attack on you or your post, and i hope it wont be taken as one.

    cheers
    what pic??
    this

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    if i was being accused of something, (and bear in mind the sh*t thats currently flying round) and someone presented me with that pic, and asked me to explain myself.....

    exactly how does that picture relate to anything?, what does it proove? what accusation can come from it?, ... look at it. and this is being used to bolster an overall point against someone.

    i should say that i dont know vivek. so i'm not really factoring him into this, i imagine drakes reaction. because if its anytrhing like mine would be, i would laugh at it. really, and to use someone elses phrase, it is like a turd in a punchbowl. it completely discredits anything else thats been said.

    and for some reason, i WTF'd and went into one.
    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Two depictions of the same event?

    Here, we know of Drake's take on it.

    Now, here is the other side of the same coin from Stan Deyo site:
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    marlowe has started a separate thread on this material, at The next 8 months /insider info .
    My quite dormant website: pauljackson.us

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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    This has been posted already, no?

    If so than BUMP.



    The "notification" that "they" sent back was just a confirmation from Fed-Ex that "L. Molenaar" signed for the package.

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    No idea how reliable this blog is, but may be worth reading:

    Quote MASSIVE ARRESTS
    There are allegations of rumored Gun battles and arrests ongoing especially in Washington DC. Those being 'rumored' now under house arrest (Remove passport, restricted movement, escorted by marshals) as of now are the Bushes, Clintons, Rockefeller, Pelosi, Reid and a Cast of hundreds if not thousands in the political/banking arena. These are ongoing operations under strict security.

    Drake is right on per this heads up alert.
    For rest of article, go here.

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    "My request to remove the post was satisfied, so I see no reason for further actions." says Drake.

    Was there a post removed from this site upon Drake's demand?

    If not, Justoneman, then how has Drake seen the light if he is posting more disinfo?

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    AS I recall, Drake said Operation Greenlight, the operation to make the arrests, would be posted at freedomreigns.us prior to the arrests taking place, and no such thing is posted there.

    Don't you think that Gunbattles in wash. d.c. would get more publicity than a "rumor", if it was actually happening?

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    "My request to remove the post was satisfied, so I see no reason for further actions." says Drake.

    Was there a post removed from this site upon Drake's demand?

    If not, Justoneman, then how has Drake seen the light if he is posting more disinfo?
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    The post here on Avalon has been corrected. Specifically what disinfo [from Drake] do you refer to?

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    Quote Posted by promezeus (here)
    "My request to remove the post was satisfied, so I see no reason for further actions." says Drake.

    Was there a post removed from this site upon Drake's demand?

    If not, Justoneman, then how has Drake seen the light if he is posting more disinfo?
    Vivek corrected the post that Drake took issue with - I didn't look because I trust Vivek at his word - he's a good guy with good intentions, take care - justone

    Ooops thanks KiwiElf... apologies I did not get to your answer before I posted - if Mods see this post of mine and want to remove it - NP
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    I corrected a factual error in my OP that Drake had brought attention to - the fact that he is a memeber of the Vietnam Brotherhood and not it's founder. This is not that important considering the rest of the OP.

    Drake also stated that the OP declared that he was a member of the "baby-killer" Illuminati. That is false. The "reference" in the OP is a quote taken from James Furia's blog that has "Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon" and "Nahash Illuminati" in the same sentence. They are not my words.

    There was NO mention ANYWHERE of the L.O.R.D. group specifically OTHER than what was buried in Drake's internet history and the article from James Furia.

    Drake alludes to the fact that the L.O.R.D. group has to do with the White Dragon Families that Ben Fulford brought to light. This is dishonest and misleading in my opinion.

    Notice in the OP how Drake is trying to contact Fulford about the paperwork/movement getting ready to kick into gear?

    Drake tries to say that he is not affiliated anymore with that stuff, but then states something to the extent that these "White Dragon Families" are waiting for his call to discuss what to do about the thread.

    I can tell you that Drake is the owner of a website based on a group (there are a few) that he co-founded with Ray Stoner (or YAR NESTOR in the picture I posted for those who are paying attention). It wouldn't be a stretch to say that they are still together.

    The things they do and the stuff they are into is harmless in my opinion.

    I think Drake may have been taken aback by how much was uncovered and/or by how much may have been uncovered and left unsaid - therefore his reaction was threatening, intimidating, and defensive... Understandable.

    What is troublesome to me is the fact that I know his influences (anybody can, just search what has been posted) and in conjunction with what he has stated about being "recomended by the lesser gods to the greater gods, and given great understandings, those beyond most comprehension", and "I am attempting to offer information to be heralded through-out mankind", and "I have been very busy in efforts to start a world wide peace process involving Iraq and the middle east" --- just how easy would it be for some "top-level insider" or someone like that to contact this man and feed him disinformation? All they would need to do would be to "appeal" to his personality, and make him believe what he already wants to believe.

    No doubt in my mind, the man is a good, genuine guy. That's why this sucks.

    He has embellished the story about sending the papers and recieving a "notification" back, he took advantage of his retort regarding my thread in order to connect himself to the "White Dragon Families" that Fulford speaks about, and the goal posts keep movin'.

    It's like we are cranking a jack-in-the-box that will never pop out. Or at least not like we think it will.

    This man now has a bully pulpit, and "supporters". Important questions are being overlooked and ignored as they are in hidden in the shadows of a noble cause. Dissenters from "Drake's plan" are labelled pessimistic, trolls, disinfo agents, etc. etc.

    Nobody is arguing with the fact that the cause is noble, but LOOK in the shadows of what's going on right now and that's where the important issues are hiding, and they will be dangerous if they are overlooked.

    This whole thing, if carried out, has a very good chance of resulting in a civil war. There are things that are running parallel to what's going on with Drake, and when these various things come to a head their collective synergies will result in societal upheavel.

    A perfect excuse for flat out, in-your-face martial law.

    Has anybody considered the fact that the arrests are being drawn out long enough for all of these interviews to take place, long enough for more people to catch wind of it, long enough for people to get restless, long enough for some alphabet agency to make a case against this whole thing as a terrorist coup d'etat?

    If this thing garners enough attention for the mainstream media to snag it up I guarantee you that this whole effort will be thrown in the lot with "home-grown" terrorism.

    If that happens you are going to have the majority of Americans fearing that some organization (described by however the MSM wants to paint them) is trying to overthrow the good old US of A. Throw the "terrorist" label on it and you've got a real problem on your hands.

    If anything does happen it will be bloody before anything peaceful comes out of it, and looking at how this is unfolding (and getting a feel for what kind of a person Drake is) it sure as hell seems like we (and he) are all being played. So who is really calling the shots here?

    Another thing that sucks is that if this is all true then what about all of the "sources" of "insiders" that have "vetted" Drake? What does that say about them?

    There is DEFINITELY something wrong here.
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    Vivek may have done some corrections to his OP, but the post was certainly not removed, and he didn't correct this part below to which Drake objected . In fact, as Vivek stated, it wasn't his words anyway. He was just quoting someone else.
    Vivek, feel free to correct me if am mistaken in any way.


    from vivek's may 7 clarification post and also retained in the corrected OP:

    "These will be comprehensive to the initiates of the Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon (the original Nahash Illuminati) obviously anyone stumbling upon these serious meaningful equations will need the backround info of The Code Of The Ancients... "

    "Those aren't my words(meaning not vivek's words), they are from the link on Drake's webpage to Jimi's in the OP."

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    It would seem that either way you go, Martial Law is a possibility... But it hasn't happened... yet

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    Quote Posted by promezeus (here)
    Vivek may have done some corrections to his OP, but the post was certainly not removed, and he didn't correct this part below to which Drake objected . In fact, as Vivek stated, it wasn't his words anyway. He was just quoting someone else.
    Vivek, feel free to correct me if am mistaken in any way.


    from vivek's may 7 clarification post and also retained in the corrected OP:

    "These will be comprehensive to the initiates of the Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon (the original Nahash Illuminati) obviously anyone stumbling upon these serious meaningful equations will need the backround info of The Code Of The Ancients... "

    "Those aren't my words(meaning not vivek's words), they are from the link on Drake's webpage to Jimi's in the OP."
    It has none-the-less been corrected to Drake's satisfaction. Move on. Again, specifically what disinfo [from Drake] do you refer to?

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    Kiwielf, It appears you are unable to comprehend my posts or Drake's for that matter, so I will have to decline your request to repeat myself. In response to your last post, I quite disagree with you that Vivek corrected his post to Drake's satisfaction. I think Drake simply took it as an opportunity to try to save face, but imo, he confirmed his lack of integrity. Now after reading Vivek's post from today, I see he confirms my point of view in this matter.

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    promezeus

    I believe the term is "infantile evasion" on your behalf (google it) - and as I suspected, you are unable to back-up your "claim" re disinfo [from Drake].
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    Quote Posted by YvonneG (here)
    If I thought it did any good to continue to beat the drum here, I would, after continuing to take long breaks. However, people stuck in fear have no desire to see anything, and for me to think I can make them see it, is insanity. All I have really wanted in the end was to see those so opposed to have a bit of an open-mind to the possibility that the continued almost attacking what others say serves no one. I for one refuse to participate in this. I feel like I am adding energy to it all.

    My time and energy are much better spent in doing things that will make a concrete difference locally and for myself in my meditation and spiritual practice.

    Anyway, thanks for your response and I wish you all the best. At one point when I was going hot and heavy, it took me several days to recover. Figure how much time and energy I could have devoted for our local efforts?? A lot!
    I'm sorry that you have a finite amount of energy, and that you see energy as a resource which needs to be preserved. By all means, don't drain yourself by attaching to other energies which do not resonate with you.

    May I suggest that you just act as a conduit for the energy to flow through you so that it is not draining, but actually remain detached? Since energy is not finite but infinite, the ability to allow energy to flow through you without attachment gives you more energy and does not take away energy.

    It's a very subtle difference, but it makes all the difference in the world.

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)

    There is DEFINITELY something wrong here.
    Obviously.

    I am all for the "bad" Immortal Elites to be overthrown but they ain't giving up without bloodshed.

    But then blood will be shed regardless of the outcome.


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    Here are my thoughts, based on my research and feelings. I don’t claim to have any special knowledge. I am open.

    - The superwave energetic stream, peaking in december of this year, will propel a massive expansion of our consciousness as we synchronize and synergize with it. This is the end of the set-in-stone 75,000 year cycle, according to RA, (3-25,000 year cycles) at which time those who are ready will experience a 'quantum leap' in consciousness.

    - The dark forces are playing their destined part in the drama (even if the 3d dark forces don’t know it). Their role is to hold us down, like a rocket tethered on the launch pad awaiting blast-off.

    - The mass arrests and economic system changes represent the political/economic stage of the upcoming changes, i.e. getting the ball rolling by regaining our constitutional freedom and personal sovereignty. Drake is simply the current public figure for this stage. He worked hard for it, even if he didn't consciously know it would be his role. He is living his dream. And now he is learning how easily one can be corrupted by power.

    - Higher dimensional entities (which include our own higher aspects) are basically overseeing the whole show..calling the shots, including the timeline and outcome of the show. (But they don't want to spoil the fun by revealing it to us)

    - These HD entities, in cooperation with the leaders of the ‘plan’, are timing the mass arrests so that by the time the superwave energy ramps up this fall, we will already be feeling inspired and excited. We are being primed for blast-off.

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    I corrected a factual error in my OP that Drake had brought attention to - the fact that he is a memeber of the Vietnam Brotherhood and not its founder. This is not that important considering the rest of the OP.

    Drake also stated that the OP declared that he was a member of the "baby-killer" Illuminati. That is false. The "reference" in the OP is a quote taken from James Furia's blog that has "Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon" and "Nahash Illuminati" in the same sentence. They are not my words.

    There was NO mention ANYWHERE of the L.O.R.D. group specifically OTHER than what was buried in Drake's internet history and the article from James Furia.

    Drake alludes to the fact that the L.O.R.D. group has to do with the White Dragon Families that Ben Fulford brought to light. This is dishonest and misleading in my opinion.

    Notice in the OP how Drake is trying to contact Fulford about the paperwork/movement getting ready to kick into gear?

    Drake tries to say that he is not affiliated anymore with that stuff, but then states something to the extent that these "White Dragon Families" are waiting for his call to discuss what to do about the thread.

    I can tell you that Drake is the owner of a website based on a group (there are a few) that he co-founded with Ray Stoner (or YAR NESTOR in the picture I posted for those who are paying attention). It wouldn't be a stretch to say that they are still together.

    The things they do and the stuff they are into is harmless in my opinion.

    I think Drake may have been taken aback by how much was uncovered and/or by how much may have been uncovered and left unsaid - therefore his reaction was threatening, intimidating, and defensive... Understandable.

    What is troublesome to me is the fact that I know his influences (anybody can, just search what has been posted) and in conjunction with what he has stated about being "recomended by the lesser gods to the greater gods, and given great understandings, those beyond most comprehension", and "I am attempting to offer information to be heralded through-out mankind", and "I have been very busy in efforts to start a world wide peace process involving Iraq and the middle east" --- just how easy would it be for some "top-level insider" or someone like that to contact this man and feed him disinformation? All they would need to do would be to "appeal" to his personality, and make him believe what he already wants to believe.

    No doubt in my mind, the man is a good, genuine guy. That's why this sucks.

    He has embellished the story about sending the papers and recieving a "notification" back, he took advantage of his retort regarding my thread in order to connect himself to the "White Dragon Families" that Fulford speaks about, and the goal posts keep movin'.

    It's like we are cranking a jack-in-the-box that will never pop out. Or at least not like we think it will.

    This man now has a bully pulpit, and "supporters". Important questions are being overlooked and ignored as they are in hidden in the shadows of a noble cause. Dissenters from "Drake's plan" are labelled pessimistic, trolls, disinfo agents, etc. etc.

    Nobody is arguing with the fact that the cause is noble, but LOOK in the shadows of what's going on right now and that's where the important issues are hiding, and they will be dangerous if they are overlooked.

    This whole thing, if carried out, has a very good chance of resulting in a civil war. There are things that are running parallel to what's going on with Drake, and when these various things come to a head their collective synergies will result in societal upheavel.

    A perfect excuse for flat out, in-your-face martial law.

    Has anybody considered the fact that the arrests are being drawn out long enough for all of these interviews to take place, long enough for more people to catch wind of it, long enough for people to get restless, long enough for some alphabet agency to make a case against this whole thing as a terrorist coup d'etat?

    If this thing garners enough attention for the mainstream media to snag it up I guarantee you that this whole effort will be thrown in the lot with "home-grown" terrorism.

    If that happens you are going to have the majority of Americans fearing that some organization (described by however the MSM wants to paint them) is trying to overthrow the good old US of A. Throw the "terrorist" label on it and you've got a real problem on your hands.

    If anything does happen it will be bloody before anything peaceful comes out of it, and looking at how this is unfolding (and getting a feel for what kind of a person Drake is) it sure as hell seems like we (and he) are all being played. So who is really calling the shots here?

    Another thing that sucks is that if this is all true then what about all of the "sources" of "insiders" that have "vetted" Drake? What does that say about them?

    There is DEFINITELY something wrong here.
    An excellent post. I agree 110% with the analysis.

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