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    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote When the new financial system starts up and the criminals are removed from the core of the Western financial system, then money will pour like rain on Europe (it already is in the non-cabal controlled part of the world).
    Does anyone seriously believe that replacing one corrupt financial system with another will fix anything? At best, you'll just get a new group of corrupt greedy power-hungry thugs and at worst you'll get that AND a one world government with infinite power to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. This doesn't sound like any type of solution to me--at least not for the masses.
    Well what do you suggest be done then? We obviously need some sort of monetary system to at least temporarily exist while the planet is transitioned to a bartering system and ultimately out of a monetary system all together. So please, provide a solution you think will work.
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    Quote Question is.. do the Andromedans have 3D physical bodies?
    From what Alex Collier told everyone, the Andromedans have planets in their system that are 3D as well as 5D and 6D.
    I agree with you on that Earth's Humanity will experience many beneficial changes. We just have to take out the "garbage" first....

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    Quote Sad. Sad. Sad. Come on Ben...For someone who claims to be on the inside you just don't offer that much. The insights here could be made by anyone who pays any attention to the geopolitical state of the world. Ben's writings have the same feel as a channeler: "bla blah blah, recent developments, blah blah, prosperity is coming, blah blah blah, messiah complex plug, blah blah blah, I know a lot of stuff but not really, blah blah blah..."

    Man, I wish I were wrong and this were all true, but with Ben's writing, it's easier to see right through it. I guess in some way, he is helping out...he's making the lie more obvious.
    Maybe it's Ben's clone who's saying all this....

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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote When the new financial system starts up and the criminals are removed from the core of the Western financial system, then money will pour like rain on Europe (it already is in the non-cabal controlled part of the world).
    Does anyone seriously believe that replacing one corrupt financial system with another will fix anything? At best, you'll just get a new group of corrupt greedy power-hungry thugs and at worst you'll get that AND a one world government with infinite power to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. This doesn't sound like any type of solution to me--at least not for the masses.
    Well what do you suggest be done then? We obviously need some sort of monetary system to at least temporarily exist while the planet is transitioned to a bartering system and ultimately out of a monetary system all together. So please, provide a solution you think will work.
    Sounds to me like you already have a solution--the barter system. I wouldn't advocate that, but I will say it's better than a monetary system that guarantees we'll continue to have a class system of the haves and have nots. The solution that I would advocate is a contributionist system and there has been much written about it including here on Avalon.

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    Hey folks,

    Do you guys have any doubts that folks like Ben Fulford watch this and other similar forums regularly?

    Just watch the patterns!

    Always, as soon as there´s a major discussion and controversy about theirs or one of their friend´s claims, they release "new material", just to make people change focus.

    It´s always the same pattern.

    These folks always release some info, monitor the crowd reaction, than release more info based on the reaction and so on.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote When the new financial system starts up and the criminals are removed from the core of the Western financial system, then money will pour like rain on Europe (it already is in the non-cabal controlled part of the world).
    Does anyone seriously believe that replacing one corrupt financial system with another will fix anything? At best, you'll just get a new group of corrupt greedy power-hungry thugs and at worst you'll get that AND a one world government with infinite power to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. This doesn't sound like any type of solution to me--at least not for the masses.
    Well what do you suggest be done then? We obviously need some sort of monetary system to at least temporarily exist while the planet is transitioned to a bartering system and ultimately out of a monetary system all together. So please, provide a solution you think will work.
    We don't even need a new one. The one we have right now would work just fine without the rampant incentive to enslave people into debt.

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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote When the new financial system starts up and the criminals are removed from the core of the Western financial system, then money will pour like rain on Europe (it already is in the non-cabal controlled part of the world).
    Does anyone seriously believe that replacing one corrupt financial system with another will fix anything? At best, you'll just get a new group of corrupt greedy power-hungry thugs and at worst you'll get that AND a one world government with infinite power to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. This doesn't sound like any type of solution to me--at least not for the masses.
    Well what do you suggest be done then? We obviously need some sort of monetary system to at least temporarily exist while the planet is transitioned to a bartering system and ultimately out of a monetary system all together. So please, provide a solution you think will work.

    Well, I have a possible solution. It´s a kind of utopia, but still a solution.

    Keep everything working. Keep every one in their current jobs, except for the criminals of course. Keep paying them their salaries, accordingly to their merit.

    Then, take the liquid profit of every company in the world, take out the necessary part to sustain the structure of the system, and then share the rest with all the people in the world.

    There´s plenty of money to be shared and everyone would have a very good life quality.

    Then, slowly and wisely reorganize the system, managing jobs, increasing sustainability, creating new technology and making sure everyone works with what they are good at.

    Of course, this idea is highly summarized, but could be further developed into something feasible.

    Sounds beautiful, right? However, any really fair financial system would only work if people share honesty as a principle.

    So, if we agree that the human being isn´t greedy by nature, it would so be possible to completely recreate an educational system that teaches children only the most noble and fair moral values.

    If you think that the human being is greedy by nature, nothing will ever work for us.

    Anyway, this could be implemented as real direct democracy.

    Each person creates his own projects, which are then voted by the local community, than at state level, than at country level and finally worldwide level, so everyone in the world, let´s say, in a weekly basis, could vote for the final and most coherent projects via internet. Everyone should agree to vote for a certain number of projects every week; it wouldn´t take more than a couple of hours to do so.

    We wouldn´t need any politicians or representatives this way.

    Then, a very complex computer system could be created to make corruption impossible, in a very transparent way, so everyone could monitor in real time and see where the world´s money is going;

    This system would enable us to monitor the legitimacy of the votes as well.

    Now, feel free to add other features that you consider important, if you feel like doing so.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote When the new financial system starts up and the criminals are removed from the core of the Western financial system, then money will pour like rain on Europe (it already is in the non-cabal controlled part of the world).
    Does anyone seriously believe that replacing one corrupt financial system with another will fix anything? At best, you'll just get a new group of corrupt greedy power-hungry thugs and at worst you'll get that AND a one world government with infinite power to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. This doesn't sound like any type of solution to me--at least not for the masses.
    Well what do you suggest be done then? We obviously need some sort of monetary system to at least temporarily exist while the planet is transitioned to a bartering system and ultimately out of a monetary system all together. So please, provide a solution you think will work.
    Sounds to me like you already have a solution--the barter system. I wouldn't advocate that, but I will say it's better than a monetary system that guarantees we'll continue to have a class system of the haves and have nots. The solution that I would advocate is a contributionist system and there has been much written about it including here on Avalon.
    That would require a huge paradigm shift, so how then do you suggest that we implement that with the current mind set of the majority of the people around the world. It's one thing for us intelligent and freeish thinkers to come up with something that would work for those with our mind set, but what will actually work?
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    "A ONE OFF, massive debt write off"!

    Thats nice, whats happens if I get into trouble again, I mean its still a financial system?
    One off, sounds like a gesture, but also a warning, an ultimatum. So many are in debt and
    would jump at the chance to have their slate wiped clean to end there misery and suffering.

    Is that the deal, wave a carrot to a desparate soul, watch them grab for it in desperation, (like
    you knew thry would after phase one of the plan), then ready the big stick with the other hand!

    Read between the lines, its where the small print lives....

    However, it is also a possibility that debt will never be allowed to happen again thus a one off.
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    I found this statement highly comforting.

    " The condition attached is an agreement to participate in a massive campaign to end poverty, stop environmental destruction and free the suppressed technology"

    Blissfull words to say the least.
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    *Sigh*

    Are we not seeing that exchanging currency for currency does not change the fundamental problems?

    There will still be rich and poor simply because there is a construct. Creativity and natural talent for things is discounted, and we will still have to have 'jobs' still pay 'tax'

    its just one big merry-go-round.

    people who have power, in all its shapes and forms, dont want to give it away so easily.
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    They are real, but for me I was very surprised to see them show up the way they have here. I know they are real because one of my best friends was in federal prison for racketeering, he was an enforcer for a certain illegal organization back in the late 1980's. One of his best cell mates when he was in Arizona federal prison was a Chinese gangster from Hong Kong (a White Dragon member) that got arrested in California. He was an excellent martial artist and I talked to him on the phone once or twice as he was training my friend and I was a martial artist as well. He was also a Freemason in San Francisco and that surprised me to no end I must say. About a decade later an Italian gangster I knew from New York City told me they were into something with them and wanted to know if I knew anything about the White Dragons etc.

    They are gangsters, and frankly its a little hard for me to see how they are involved in anything other than being gangsters. Of course we all know who runs and funds ALL big gangsters.

    Police, gangsters, Freemasons, etc etc are all just bricks in the same pyramid system that is run by some very powerful reclusive and dangerous family's. The Idea that they are going to move to the top of the pyramid without it being part of the plan is just goofy to me.

    Ive made it no secret here that I am related to some of the Illuminati Bloodline Family's, and I remember being told when I was young that it was part of the plan to have the people hate their govts and see them as criminals so they could change the way things are run once and for all. I dont have all the secrets but that piece of the puzzle is on my table and it fits right next to the one that says China will be the muscle for the New Order after the US has collapsed.

    I will go out on a limb and guess that we will find the usual suspects step up to back these clowns before its over. Like the Rothchild bankers and the Chinese Govt etc.,,, we will see.

    Quote Posted by bearcow (here)
    Ive said this before, as i have had dealings with many people who are familiar and part of hidden occult groups in asia, and not one has ever mentioned the existence of a "white dragon society".

    If this group did exist, surely there would be some documented reference to this group in the annals of Asian history. For example, the Illuminati can be traced back to Johann Adam Weishaupt and his texts in the 1700's. No such record exists for this "white dragon society".
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    Quote Posted by Siberia9 (here)
    They are real, but for me I was very surprised to see them show up the way they have here. I know they are real because one of my best friends was in federal prison for racketeering, he was an enforcer for a certain illegal organization back in the late 1980's. One of his best cell mates when he was in Arizona federal prison was a Chinese gangster from Hong Kong (a White Dragon member) that got arrested in California. He was an excellent martial artist and I talked to him on the phone once or twice as he was training my friend and I was a martial artist as well. He was also a Freemason in San Francisco and that surprised me to no end I must say. About a decade later an Italian gangster I knew from New York City told me they were into something with them and wanted to know if I knew anything about the White Dragons etc.

    They are gangsters, and frankly its a little hard for me to see how they are involved in anything other than being gangsters. Of course we all know who runs and funds ALL big gangsters.

    Police, gangsters, Freemasons, etc etc are all just bricks in the same pyramid system that is run by some very powerful reclusive and dangerous family's. The Idea that they are going to move to the top of the pyramid without it being part of the plan is just goofy to me.

    Ive made it no secret here that I am related to some of the Illuminati Bloodline Family's, and I remember being told when I was young that it was part of the plan to have the people hate their govts and see them as criminals so they could change the way things are run once and for all. I dont have all the secrets but that piece of the puzzle is on my table and it fits right next to the one that says China will be the muscle for the New Order after the US has collapsed.

    I will go out on a limb and guess that we will find the usual suspects step up to back the clowns before its over. Like the Rothchild bankers and the Chinese Govt etc.,,, we will see.

    Quote Posted by bearcow (here)
    Ive said this before, as i have had dealings with many people who are familiar and part of hidden occult groups in asia, and not one has ever mentioned the existence of a "white dragon society".

    If this group did exist, surely there would be some documented reference to this group in the annals of Asian history. For example, the Illuminati can be traced back to Johann Adam Weishaupt and his texts in the 1700's. No such record exists for this "white dragon society".
    Hey Siberia9,

    That´s a very interesting report.

    Perhaps something like this deserves its own thread, since there´s a lot o people here who are taking these White Dragons as the legit good guys.

    What do you think?

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    This is the crew Fulford claims to be hooked up with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dragon_Society The Black Dragon Society, that have now changed their name to the white dragon Society in 2010 for whatever reason according to Fulford. My friends cell mate told me that he was a member of the White Dragons that operated under the Black Dragon Society. That was back in 1989, a coincidence? I think not.
    But what do I know,,, I'm just just stuck in a stupid meat suit on a beautiful planet full of insane goofballs.
    I don't even care to figure it out any more, if something is going to happen lets just get it on already.

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    Quote Posted by Siberia9 (here)
    ...But what do I know,,, I'm just just stuck in a stupid meat suit on a beautiful planet full of insane goofballs.
    hahahahahaha I resonated with that comment. It's not really funny, but I am at that point in this theater of the absurd where the surreal reality is starting to make me chuckle.

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    Quote When the new financial system starts up and the criminals are removed from the core of the Western financial system, then money will pour like rain on Europe (it already is in the non-cabal controlled part of the world).
    Does anyone seriously believe that replacing one corrupt financial system with another will fix anything? At best, you'll just get a new group of corrupt greedy power-hungry thugs and at worst you'll get that AND a one world government with infinite power to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. This doesn't sound like any type of solution to me--at least not for the masses.
    Well what do you suggest be done then? We obviously need some sort of monetary system to at least temporarily exist while the planet is transitioned to a bartering system and ultimately out of a monetary system all together. So please, provide a solution you think will work.
    Sounds to me like you already have a solution--the barter system. I wouldn't advocate that, but I will say it's better than a monetary system that guarantees we'll continue to have a class system of the haves and have nots. The solution that I would advocate is a contributionist system and there has been much written about it including here on Avalon.
    That would require a huge paradigm shift, so how then do you suggest that we implement that with the current mind set of the majority of the people around the world. It's one thing for us intelligent and freeish thinkers to come up with something that would work for those with our mind set, but what will actually work?
    Yep, without question it would require a huge paradigm shift. And I believe the way to implement it is embedded in your answer. If "intelligent and freeish" thinking people can come up with something that will work for those with their mind set and, if a world consisting of intelligent, free thinking people is a desirable and worthy goal, then it seems to me the solution is fairly simple. We begin to raise the intelligence level and reduce the fear level associated with thinking "outside the box" of the rest of the world. And how do we do that? Through education, and I don't mean through educational institutions that are mostly propaganda machines for the status quo. It can start with forums like Avalon where people can express their ideas and discuss the pros and cons in an intelligent and civilized manner and by encouraging others to join in. Eventually, enough people will start thinking for themselves and will start questioning their "leaders" as to why they are against ideas that are so obviously beneficial to all people and the environment. Maybe then everyone will begin to realize we don't require governments that attempt to control every aspect of our lives so a tiny fraction of the population can live like kings while the rest are herded like cattle to produce all the goods and services. Maybe then people will begin to wake up and realize that all we really need is freedom and some minimal intelligent guidance to ensure the necessities of life are there for every man, woman and child on the planet--without destroying the planet in the process.

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    ASCENSION IS THE EXPRESSION OF DESIRE TO LEAVE PHYSICAL LIFE

    I don't meditate often but a few hours ago, this message came to me with a clarity which shook me out of my meditation. I was actually hearing it in my inner ear as I was doing "inwards hearing" meditation.

    Here I go.

    Why do you think the Creator, Archangels and other Higher Beings allow the NWO Elites to accrue and abuse so much power over us? Why do you think they allow the Archons/Demons to feed off our energies and control our mind (too often to our detriment)? Why does the Creator create Demons and Gods which bring Death, Poverty, Disease, Pain and other forms of Sufferings in our lives?

    Let me give a brief recap of multi-dimensional physics. On the Highest Level of Reality stands the Creator. Below him stands the Archangels and Buddhas and other High Dimensional Beings. Below them stand the "middle-level" gods and devas and below them stand the demons and other "lower-level" gods and asuras. You can check out the links below to get a fairly good idea of how spiritual and multi-dimensional politics work.

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...agga/loka.html

    All of us possess souls which came from Archangels, Buddhas, Hindu Gods, Asian Gods, South American Gods, Greek/Roman Gods, etc and all these Higher Gods descended in turn from the Creator who created all Gods and Existence.

    We descended into 3D earth because we wanna experience the 7 sins, the desires, attachments, aversions, hatred and love of mortal man. However, the Creator and Higher Gods know that, unless we are given sufferings of all kind in order to wake us up from the Great Illusion we are in, we will never wake up and we will continue to work, sleep, have sex, raise children, drink, eat, defecate and participate in all forms of mindless human activity everyday till the end of our lives.

    This is why our human lives are so short and why the teachings of immortality have not been made public except to those special humans who are 101% committed to leaving Samsara and the accursed cycle of Rebirth and Death. Because firstly, if everybody is immortal and rich and never experience suffering, then everybody will have no motivations to evolve their soul and break free of this Great Illusionary Samsara which we are in.

    Secondly, there is a bloody long line of souls who are waiting to learn all about Suffering on this Prison Planet Earth of ours. If everybody is immortal and never die and continue to make love and breed kids without having any worries about the money issues, then this Prison Planet would be overpopulated in less than a decade. Even bloody Africa and China would be filled to the brims and more.

    So this is why the Creator, the Archangels, the Buddhas and other Higher Beings allow so much Suffering on Prison Planet Earth. Suffering like Poverty, Famine, Death, Pain, Loss. The Gods want us to break free of our Desire to experience Human Desires. The Gods want Humanity to be free of Samsara. The Gods want Humanity to let go of their Human Bodies because the Human Body is an Inferior Form of Existence.

    The Gods want us to break free of our Attachments to Humanity and Attachments to Food, to Sex, to Entertainment, to our Family, our Loved Ones, our Children, our Parents and to our own Human Bodies. The Gods want us to Evolve to a Spiritual State of Existence instead of a physical existence.

    ASCENSION IS THE EXPRESSION OF DESIRE TO LEAVE PHYSICAL LIFE
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    Personally I think Inelia Benz best sums up that ascension is simply an unlimited sense of awareness. Period!

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    This is why I advise everyone to reject the lies of Drake, Wilcock and Fulford.

    As mentioned before in my other thread The-Game-of-the-True-Immortals-on-this-Planet, there are two major groupings of occult power players who possess the majority of the wealth and power on Earth.

    One group want humans to be spiritually evolved while the other group want humans to be slaves. However, both groups want humans to remain in the 3D physical human condition which will allow the Archon Masters of both groups to continue using humans as batteries of food energies aka Matrix.

    2012 Dec 21st is the ULTIMATE opportunity for EVERYONE to break free of their bondage once and for all.

    Drake, Fulford and Wilcock may belong to the group who want humans to be spiritually evolved 3D human beings with prosperity funds, advanced longevity medical technologies, but in the end, Drake, Fulford and Wilcock still want us humans to be cattle and sheep to those higher Dimensional Archons who will maintain their control over our minds and bodies because they possess higher technologies and higher spiritual power.

    Drake, Fulford and Wilcock may say "oh the new government is gonna give you so much money, so much new medical technologies, so much free energy for your new Porsche Cars which can fly on air, so much new, free and wonderful stuff coming up, etc etc" But this is the gist of the problem.

    Humanity, because of their 3D physical bodies, have to rely on money, medicine, vehicles, houses and other forms of commodities in order to lead an easy life. If you do not have a physical body, then you do not have to rely on anyone for anything!


    Don't depend on any form of Government to save you and give you free stuff even if these Governments appear to be just and kind. Don't depend on any ET races to save you and give you free stuff even if these ET races are just and kind. What did they say about despising the free lunch?

    As long as you are in physical form, you will always be subjected to abuse, bullying and tyranny. You will always depend on the Government, ET races, Corporations and other forms of Big Organizations to control your lives. A Government or ET race may be kind and just now but what's to prevent the same Government or ET race from turning on you or your children 100 years down the road?

    Humans may be downtrodden slaves for eons but there is a reason why everybody want to trod on us. Because we possess unlimited potential to become anything we want and this is why the Archons and other ET races are afraid of us.

    The only way to grasp control of your own destiny is to leave your physical body and evolve your soul and spirit to such a high degree that you would be the one controlling the Archons and other ET races instead.

    Otherwise you will always be slaves. Make a decision. Make the RIGHT decision.

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    Quote Posted by wiremu2011 (here)
    personally i think inelia benz best sums up that ascension is simply an unlimited sense of awareness. Period!
    ASCENSION IS THE EXPRESSION OF DESIRE TO LEAVE PHYSICAL LIFE

    As I was writing these posts out, the sun was shining through my window despite the blanketed sky today, I kid you not..

    I guess I am saying the right thing eh?
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