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    Quote ...Let me inform you all of some techno facts. Your computer has a very individual code...
    Unified Serenity, that's true, but everytime you switch your computer off (ie full shutdown), your I.P. address is reset - ask anyone in I.T. ... except..EDIT (they don't usually volunteer the info, re "how" and is better explained by Paul, please refer to his post below (plus a load of software out there that can mask your ID if you so choose).
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    Dennis, just because someone criticises your saviour doesn't mean that they are trying to replace him in people's eyes. I really think you must be in some kind of denial if you're going to deflect attention to the style of the language I used and away from the now proven veracity of what I said.

    You obviously don't understand my posts or are not reading them carefully enough. I'm not reporting Drake to the police for being the leader or spokesman of a movement. Please go back and read what I said. I'm reporting him to the police for threatening harm (at the very least) and murder (at worst) to myself and some of the members in this thread on his Wolf Spirit Radio programme last Sunday.

    Where I come from, threatening harm is still a crime and I will be doing this for our protection unless Drake apologises.

    Resorting to the existing legal process is no different to Drake also threatening to use the existing terrorism legislation to shut us down in this thread. In fact, it's much more proportionate and appropriate.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    ... but everytime you switch your computer off (ie full shutdown), your I.P. address is reset ...
    For the typical home user, not necessarily.

    It is better explained here: How long will I keep my IP address?

    Some effort is made to give you the same address each time. If you have a separate NAT or router, just leaving that powered on will hold your address indefinitely. Some ISP's even sell you fixed addresses, if you like.

    I've had my same IP address for a couple of years now, and this is on a garden variety cable modem setup with a separate router.

    (Also the separate "code" that Unified Serenity refers to is likely something more esoteric than it makes sense to explain here ... I read her post as -not- referring to an IP address, though I doubt she wrote it as I read it.)
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    Thank you Paul - (just goes to show the different perspectives we can have of the same one thing - I should have added "if you know how" & "if you were referring to..." - oops" - (my apologies Serenity) - And Paul, I agree BTW - cool perspective
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    When are people gonna get over their fear of ancient knowledge, and secret knowledge?

    This knowledge does NOT belong to Freemasons, nor to the Illuminati of todays conspiracy theories.

    This knowledge is universal and belongs to us all!

    The way it is being used by the "powers that were" is a perversion, an unholy perversion of ancient and sacred lineages of spiritual teachings- of the mysteries of all things.

    To put it short and sweet: there are many good "illuminati groups." Don't be so quick to jump on the "OMG!!! Illuminati!! SATAN" bandwagon. Otherwise you'd have to put me in there- and rest assured I am nothing like those types.

    And the symbol of all seeing eye in triangle and symbol of all seeing eye in pyramid (4 and 3 sided) are completely different things...

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    Sirius, I think this thread does largely make that point ~ that occult knowledge and practice is not solely the preserve of the Illuminati, and that in any case, by no means all Illuminati groups are "Illuminaughtys".

    David Wilcock is at fault, though, in this area. He has said that the aim of the Illuminati is to get us all worshipping Lucifer, as if that would automatically turn us into Devil worshippers. As I said in my article Rehabilitating Lucifer

    "Just because that cabal of selfish evil people worships Lucifer, it doesn't make Lucifer evil any more than that cabal of selfish evil people in the Vatican worshipping Jesus makes Jesus evil."

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    Default Re: Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

    David doesn't want the competition; we should really all be worshiping him.



    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Sirius, I think this thread does largely make that point ~ that occult knowledge and practice is not solely the preserve of the Illuminati, and that in any case, by no means all Illuminati groups are "Illuminaughtys".

    David Wilcock is at fault, though, in this area. He has said that the aim of the Illuminati is to get us all worshipping Lucifer, as if that would automatically turn us into Devil worshippers. As I said in my article Rehabilitating Lucifer

    "Just because that cabal of selfish evil people worships Lucifer, it doesn't make Lucifer evil any more than that cabal of selfish evil people in the Vatican worshipping Jesus makes Jesus evil."

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Sirius, I think this thread does largely make that point ~ that occult knowledge and practice is not solely the preserve of the Illuminati, and that in any case, by no means all Illuminati groups are "Illuminaughtys".

    David Wilcock is at fault, though, in this area. He has said that the aim of the Illuminati is to get us all worshipping Lucifer, as if that would automatically turn us into Devil worshippers. As I said in my article Rehabilitating Lucifer

    "Just because that cabal of selfish evil people worships Lucifer, it doesn't make Lucifer evil any more than that cabal of selfish evil people in the Vatican worshipping Jesus makes Jesus evil."
    That's an awesome blog you have there Ishtar. Thanks for helping us all to understand that "magical" powers can be used for either benevolent or nefarious purposes. The key to ascension is to strike the perfect balance between the negative and positive, male and female. The desired path is right through the middle of that Kabbalistic Tree Of Life. The PTB are adept at keeping an IMBALANCE in this world... too far to the left, or too far to the right, it matters not to them. Either side is a path to destruction. There is a scripture where Jesus says to seek out the narrow road, not the broad and spacious ones that are easy to find.

    Lucifer is the Divine Principle in our 3d reality. Satan is the negative principle. Lucifer, without balance, is the Super Ego on steroids.... Pharisees personify this. Satan is the ID on steroids...everything is ME ME ME. The EGO is the middle path.

    Thanks again.... and maybe you will find some truth in this article:

    Beyond Good And Evil

    http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/Be...2196317%29.htm
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote ...Let me inform you all of some techno facts. Your computer has a very individual code...
    Unified Serenity, that's true, but everytime you switch your computer off (ie full shutdown), your I.P. address is reset - ask anyone in I.T. ... except..EDIT (they don't usually volunteer the info, re "how" and is better explained by Paul, please refer to his post below (plus a load of software out there that can mask your ID if you so choose).

    I am not talking about IP addresses. Back in the 90's an Army friend who specialized in communication told me that the government can track anyone via a special identifier in their computer that was not the IP address. There are various ways to do this, but at the time, he was talking about a cpu code. Thus, using an anonymizer or switching IP's would not hide who you are. I do not know how this all works, but he told me quite a few hidden things the government can and does do to track person's of interest.

    Another one was the fact that any phone can be switched on and used as a bug if you will to listen in on conversations and tv's having hidden camera's and microphones as well. That back then the only way to be sure you were not being listened to was to take the battery out of the cell phone and not have any electronic type devices like a computer, tv, or land line around you, and sweep the area for bugs. When I was involved in elections for a certain Senatororial candidate back in the 90's, we regularly had to sweep for bugs during planning meetings.

    Of course there are also the distance listening devices that can be utilized and most people do not have a secure hardened room to keep that stuff from working.

    This video is interesting, but is not comprehensive. My point in my post is that if you do not want to be tracked then don't get on the internet or become a "front" person for any group that is challenging the system. I was personally followed and bugged / tapped back in the 90's. My mouth was big enough back then to garner certain interests as I spoke of this stuff on a large radio station when they were still denying black helicopter's harassing people, CFR and Bilderburger activities as well as the psy ops of Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Waco, and OK city bombing.

    You cannot hide on the internet, it's an American military system and they control it.


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    I really don't know how all this techy stuff works, but I trusted my friend in the Army. This is something I just dug up and it may pertain to this unique id on your computer. A techy person here can explain it I'm sure.

    He may have been referring the the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier number on each computer. This article has some info on it:

    This example provides an application-defined function that opens a private queue based on the local computer using its computer identifier and a queue number provided by the caller.

    The caller can obtain the queue number from the names of the LQS files stored in the Lqs folder (the Lqs folder is created when MSMQ is installed) on the computer. The queue number is the first part of the name of each file.

    The following procedure shows how the function opens the queue based on the information provided by the caller.
    To open a queue using a computer identifier and queue number
    • Define the maximum number of properties to be specified, property counter and the MQQMPROPS structure. In this example the computer identifier property is the only property specified.
    • Specify the PROPID_QM_MACHINE_ID computer property
    • Initialize the MQQMPROPS structure.
    • Call MQGetMachineProperties to retrieve the globally unique identifier (GUID) of the computer. The following code example retrieves the GUID of the local computer.
    • Construct a private format name for the queue using the computer GUID returned by MQGetMachineProperties and the provided queue number. (This example uses the RPC function UuidToString to construct the format of the private queue.)
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.85).aspx

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Sirius, I think this thread does largely make that point ~ that occult knowledge and practice is not solely the preserve of the Illuminati, and that in any case, by no means all Illuminati groups are "Illuminaughtys".

    David Wilcock is at fault, though, in this area. He has said that the aim of the Illuminati is to get us all worshipping Lucifer, as if that would automatically turn us into Devil worshippers. As I said in my article Rehabilitating Lucifer

    "Just because that cabal of selfish evil people worships Lucifer, it doesn't make Lucifer evil any more than that cabal of selfish evil people in the Vatican worshipping Jesus makes Jesus evil."
    This is why I love Avalon... This is an excellent article by Ishtar - I wished I had known of it earlier. Thank You Ishtar

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Frankly, after Sunday night's performance, I'm amazed that anyone on here still sees him as a credible leader of a new age movement. He threatened to send the White Dragon assassins to members here over the issue of totally legitimate research and due diligence! (Sorry, I'm not usually given to exclamation marks, but Come On!!!!).

    Never mind, Dennis, that what we said could have got him killed (and I agree with US that that is a nonsensical argument, for the reasons she gave). Drake actually threatened to have us brutally murdered by people who tear their opponents limb from limb, as he helpfully told us in that broadcast. How well does that sit with a movement that is about bringing more peace and love to this Earth? He says one thing, but does another. He talks of firing squads and guillotines in the same breath as he talks of peaceful and sustainable local communities. He talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk. He's not walking a line that runs straight and true. He's not in truth.

    Over the gate at Delphi, where the ancient Greeks would go to consult with the Oracle, there was a sign that said Know Thyself.

    Know Thyself is the most important and fundamental building block of the spiritual path ... without it, the whole path crumbles because it cannot run straight and true.

    Drake doesn't know himself, and that's what makes him so dangerous.

    So I don't want this issue of Drake's threat to be swept under the carpet.

    I WOULD LIKE DRAKE TO MAKE A FORMAL APOLOGY FOR THREATENING TO HAVE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM MURDERED BY THE WHITE DRAGONS, WHO HE PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED TO HAVE NO ASSOCIATION WITH. IF I DON'T RECEIVE ONE, I WILL BE INFORMING THE POLICE SO THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO ME OR ANY OF MY FRIENDS ON HERE, OR ANYWHERE, THEY WILL KNOW WHO TO ARREST.
    As many may know from my posts, I have been a Drake drum beater - I have made lengthy posts that demonstrate my position (one time flip flopping to the "change of heart" against Drake position). I may be wrong, but there are perhaps some posters here that have valued my input. It is for them I feel obligated to write the following.

    This post by Ishtar along with Vivek's post # 1151 in the Drake Updates thread -
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post485299
    along with the recent reaction by Drake to Vivek's thread (with clear threats to Vivek) have once again caused me to change my heart about supporting Drake and the Plan. I will add that it is not just a change of heart but a change of mind as well.

    I have one excuse for beating the Drake drum and I hope this can give some perspective. My father committed suicide (or was suicided) in 1979 when I was 21. Since that time I have accumulated a great deal of circumstantial evidence (emphasizing circumstantial) that he was a soldier for cabalistic forces and I will leave it at that. Thus I have to admit I am likely polarized a bit and hope that folks here would understand and give me a pass there.

    I will add that I have continued to research the content of Houman's thread which has allowed me to understand that I have likely been under the influence of non-earthly malevolent beings which through this realization, I have been able to take back at least some of my soul.

    Each day new light is shed on the whole matter and so I have always been honest in my views and feelings. I am now thinking more with my head and not just my heart. A heart that has wounds which could be responsible for my "hopes" that something would take down these cabal forces.

    It is now clear that if the plan is real and the folks behind the plan have the same type of mind set as the spokesman showed, then I am no longer comfortable with the plan. I promised in my thread "Change of Heart" that I would not change my position of support and belief in the plan. Clearly, I am foolish to have made (and make now) any such promises.

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    He may have been referring the the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier number on each computer.
    Yes, GUID's (aka UUID's for Universally Unique IDentifier's) are assigned for a variety of reasons, by software, to uniquely identify computer generated objects such as files, disk partitions, database records, computer game assets, ... and on and on. All modern major operating systems, include Windows, Linux and MacOS, have a variety of programs using these ID's. See also here, here, and here.
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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    ... I am no longer comfortable with the plan....

    justone
    Do bear in mind that you and I and each of us here don't really know what "The Plan" is. It seems unwise to declare support or lack of support for a plan that we are not privy to. Several here have made the mistake (and have repeated it), of saying that this plan has been compromised by not being 100% secret. The plan is secret - we've only been told that a plan exists.

    What we have been told is the intended outcome of the plan: arrests of the malevolent, sociopathic bastards that gained complete control of the US government and/or are banking or nefarious corporate overlords (and possible international arrests as well.) The fact that any of us could - even for a moment - consider that objective as something that we might not support is... what's the right word... insane?

    If you have negative or conflicted feelings about the spokesperson that was tasked with letting the public know that a plan exists, and is going to be implemented, and not to freak-out when you see officials being arrested...but then that spokesperson dilutes that HUGE and extremely important message with personal reflections, personal opinions, and even a coffee recipe, I completely understand that.

    This plan will either come to fruition, or it won't, and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with your feelings about Drake (good, bad, or indifferent), and has nothing whatsoever to do with your level of belief that such a plan exists or could work. If the plan is real, and an attempt is made to take the plan into action, you will have been informed what is going on, you will be less likely to freak-out, and you may be able to share your understanding with others who are freaking out.

    The sooner that Drake turns off his microphone, the better. This Plan isn't Drake and Drake isn't this plan - and the water gets muddier and muddier the longer Drake talks.

    Dennis

    p.s. Anyone who doesn't realize that the economy of the world - with a $700 TRILLION dollar derivatives bubble hanging over out heads (dwarfing the 2008 manufactured economic "crisis") - is reason to fill your pantry and grow a garden has to turn-in their "Awake & Aware" membership card and decoder ring. May I recommend that you take some personal responsibility, for yourself and for those you take care of (if any), and prepare for at least a large economic event? Eight months from now (the 'dead of winter' for the northern part of the northern hemisphere), your kids will not care if you stocked up because you believed Drake or because you believed Mayans, or because you believed Max Keiser - they'll just be happy that you stored up a bunch of food and that you grew a big garden and canned a lot.


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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    May I recommend that you take some personal responsibility, for yourself and for those you take care of (if any), and prepare for at least a large economic event? Eight months from now (the 'dead of winter' for the northern part of the northern hemisphere), your kids will not care if you stocked up because you believed Drake or because you believed Mayans, or because you believed Max Keiser - they'll just be happy that you stored up a bunch of food and that you grew a big garden and canned a lot.
    There ya go again Dennis, taking esoteric, unprovable scenario's and bringing us back to the practical reality of our physical existences. You know, storing up food and supplies is not near as sexy as planting nuclear submarines as land darts, motherships rescuing us from oblivion, and mass arrests of all the bad guys with a global jubilee and prosperity for all, to follow.

    Now, if I take what your saying to heart, I'm going to have to spend less time as a keyboard warrior and more time outside getting my hands dirty. That means I should probably clip my fingernails too.

    Oh, such dilemmas!

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    Default Re: Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

    Hi Dennis – I love ya bro and I really wish the PTB would be outa here… but dude I think we may have let our hopes cloud our discernment – anyways…

    Its not about Drake – Drake is a reflection of those who asked him to be the spokesman. So its about the planners and their plan which we do know enough about – it is the arrest of hundreds if not thousands of folks around the world but mostly in the US and this has been stated by the spokesman.

    So, if there is a real plan that has been put together by a group or real and capable individuals all over the world, that they currently retain Drake as the spokesman then, based on how he handled Vivek’s thread I now have significant concerns.

    Laterally to my readjusted opinion is the concern I have regarding the archontic forces. It has been raised by a significant number of researchers that one of their entry points into the consciousness of an individual is through that individual’s susceptibility to a messianic complex. Vivek was able to convincingly bring forth numerous examples of statements and writings by Drake that any reasonable person would raise an eyebrow to. The fact that it is possible human beings involved with the cabal may have also picked up on this potential characteristic of Drake and/or Drake’s insider contacts and that this is all nothing but a big fat setup (to give the excuse for martial law) scares the hell out of me to be very honest. In fact, when I hear how those arrested would be treated tells me the new boss will be no different than the old boss and guess what happens in that case? The archontic forces win again and perhaps the whole potential charade is the straw that breaks the camel’s back and the troops we will see in the streets are actually and indeed minions of the cabal… and all us Plan believers would be giving disinfo to our loved ones instead… great!

    I am not saying this is the case as not only do I not know, but none of us know. But it would be absolutely no surprise to anyone if it turned out to be nothing but a setup, regardless of Drake’s heart as I have no doubt he 100% believes in all this.

    The more I step back and see Wilcock for example in his latest blog entry – starting right out saying how all these benevolent ETs are causing all sorts of havoc to the cabal – titles his latest entry - ETs defeating old world order – and then you read it –

    “Divine Intervention is now taking place on a dramatic, unprecedented basis -- worldwide.
    This is causing a complete, systematic failure of the war machine on every level.
    Guns will not fire. Radio and satellite communications systems are breaking down -- right when they are needed most. Airplanes and tanks will not start. Bombs will not deploy.
    Even more surprisingly, dozens of underground bases have now been completely emptied out -- beginning on August 23, 2011.”

    And yet there’s not one single source anyone can go to to verify even one of these events he states as fact unless it is someone like Bill Wood or Ben or perhaps Drake. Where is one single independently verifiable fact of one single occurrence amongst all the purported occurrences stated above?

    I may be wrong and there may be others who verify even one of these events but I have yet to come across that source. So think about it… how hard would it be to set up a handful of YES, good hearted and well intentioned folks, but still just a handful and of the personality type susceptible to the savior complex?

    And knowing what mind control can do to someone (and mind control is not solely relegated to being performed by just other human beings), and knowing what I have been through and how unstable I have been in my life (and knowing that I am like a brand new sober alcoholic with a long way to go before I actually stabilize), it is not a far reach to consider these 4 guys may be under similar influences. How uncomfortable am I that this is possible? Especially when due diligence from Vivek and others has brought forth plenty of food for thought along those lines?

    Is it worth it to roll the dice that this Plan, real or not, is not possibly a setup? Here we are… beating the drum of change, but really… are these folks, if Drake is an example, who we want taking over? The talk of executions, etc. Ridiculous. I am sorry, but the last several days starting with how Vivek’s thread was handled and the fact there has been no apology and the fact that lives were threatened – I am sorry – no way I can support this – You think the so called positive ETs support the way this was handled? If so, they ain’t positive ETs in my book, they are the s.o.s. and we are all being set up, well… all who fall for it at least which sadly may just be enough for the PTBs to declare martial law. How would we drum beaters feel if that turned out to be the case and we were part of the reason why?

    Anyways, I apologize I have flipped again, but we do have the right to change our minds when new, significant information comes about and I can assure you this last week’s new information is significant, we have the right to change our mind.

    Now I am going back to Houman’s Horus-Ra thread and see if I can learn more about what I can do to help myself – a self that has clearly been opened up to these non earthly forces so perhaps I can clean up enough to be of actual good to others.
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    Default Re: Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote ...Let me inform you all of some techno facts. Your computer has a very individual code...
    Unified Serenity, that's true, but everytime you switch your computer off (ie full shutdown), your I.P. address is reset - ask anyone in I.T. ... except..EDIT (they don't usually volunteer the info, re "how" and is better explained by Paul, please refer to his post below (plus a load of software out there that can mask your ID if you so choose).
    Being an actual programmer, let me begin by saying that if you think IP addresses alone are what allows one to track a computer, then you are quite silly. Every network card on the planet has a unique MAC address that identifies it. No two are alike and MAC addresses are necessary to even retrieve an IP from your ISP. All it takes is for one program to open a connection between your computer and another for it to retrieve your MAC address. But beyond that? If you get infected with a Trojan it can also grab things like your individual CPU ID. What you may not know is the hardware on your machine often comes with unique IDs or serial numbers that can be retrieved by a virus and therefore used to easily uniquely identify a machine. There ultimately is no 100% secure way to guard against this which is why any hacker worth their salt will never do any illicit work on a PC/laptop that was not meant to be disposable immediately after their current project or projects are completed.

    Now you can mask yourself by securing your workstation and using an anonymity service like Tor, as well as never opening any strange files. But still that doesn't change that even Tor can have points of failure. China for instance is currently in a covert campaign to destroy Tor's ability to break through the great firewall. So yes, if you were to go public and you were seriously doing it on an issue where many black ops wanted you dead you would not give anything resembling your real name, you would use a voice scrambler, and you would never make any direct posting to the internet that could be identified and traced to you. You would post through surrogates and speak on radio programs exclusively. (Yet Drake even posted on David Wilcock's comment boards. All one would need to possibly do would be to compromise his website and fetch the IP logs to see if that might trace back to Drake.) Which given his past unseriousness in his remarks I seriously doubt the man knows much about computer security.

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    Unified is probably speaking mostly of the MAC (Media Access Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address) address, an address that is hardcoded into your NIC (network interface card), MAC addresses CAN be "spoofed" but 99% of the population won't know how to do this & you would have to bounce through various proxies to hide your source IP address as well (which can be traced with enough effort).

    Tracking someone on the internet is mostly done via a variaty of methods, IP and MAC being primarily the metrics used. The IP address alone can tell a LOT about who you are, and most ISP’s keep extensive records (not intended for spying, just for us IT geeks to better understand traffic patterns and troubleshoot with) of IP useage and sites visted.

    I’ve been a network engineer and am now a system admin for the government, been doing it for 14 years now & am very well versed in this topic.

    Lots of chatter on this topic, it's pretty cut and dry in reality:

    You can be tracked (even if you think you know how to avoid it), it is VERY difficult & not done often.


    I will say this however, it is NOT EASY to do this, you have to get the cooperation of ISP’s or have the ability to use backdoors to “steal” this info (not impossible, but not very easy either). This requires serious resource commitment and will not be done very often (if at all) so don’t worry too much about this in your every day life, however if you draw the focus of an agiency then your recent history on the internet can be theirs if they are determined enough.
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    Default Re: Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

    Not to mention many of us were preparing well before Drake bade us too.


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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    May I recommend that you take some personal responsibility, for yourself and for those you take care of (if any), and prepare for at least a large economic event? Eight months from now (the 'dead of winter' for the northern part of the northern hemisphere), your kids will not care if you stocked up because you believed Drake or because you believed Mayans, or because you believed Max Keiser - they'll just be happy that you stored up a bunch of food and that you grew a big garden and canned a lot.
    There ya go again Dennis, taking esoteric, unprovable scenario's and bringing us back to the practical reality of our physical existences. You know, storing up food and supplies is not near as sexy as planting nuclear submarines as land darts, motherships rescuing us from oblivion, and mass arrests of all the bad guys with a global jubilee and prosperity for all, to follow.

    Now, if I take what your saying to heart, I'm going to have to spend less time as a keyboard warrior and more time outside getting my hands dirty. That means I should probably clip my fingernails too.

    Oh, such dilemmas!

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    Default Re: Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

    Those armed among us please go test your weapons.




    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Hi Dennis – I love ya bro and I really wish the PTB would be outa here… but dude I think we may have let our hopes cloud our discernment – anyways…

    Its not about Drake – Drake is a reflection of those who asked him to be the spokesman. So its about the planners and their plan which we do know enough about – it is the arrest of hundreds if not thousands of folks around the world but mostly in the US and this has been stated by the spokesman.

    So, if there is a real plan that has been put together by a group or real and capable individuals all over the world, that they currently retain Drake as the spokesman then, based on how he handled Vivek’s thread I now have significant concerns.

    Laterally to my readjusted opinion is the concern I have regarding the archontic forces. It has been raised by a significant number of researchers that one of their entry points into the consciousness of an individual is through that individual’s susceptibility to a messianic complex. Vivek was able to convincingly bring forth numerous examples of statements and writings by Drake that any reasonable person would raise an eyebrow to. The fact that it is possible human beings involved with the cabal may have also picked up on this potential characteristic of Drake and/or Drake’s insider contacts and that this is all nothing but a big fat setup (to give the excuse for martial law) scares the hell out of me to be very honest. In fact, when I hear how those arrested would be treated tells me the new boss will be no different than the old boss and guess what happens in that case? The archontic forces win again and perhaps the whole potential charade is the straw that breaks the camel’s back and the troops we will see in the streets are actually and indeed minions of the cabal… and all us Plan believers would be giving disinfo to our loved ones instead… great!

    I am not saying this is the case as not only do I not know, but none of us know. But it would be absolutely no surprise to anyone if it turned out to be nothing but a setup, regardless of Drake’s heart as I have no doubt he 100% believes in all this.

    The more I step back and see Wilcock for example in his latest blog entry – starting right out saying how all these benevolent ETs are causing all sorts of havoc to the cabal – titles his latest entry - ETs defeating old world order – and then you read it –

    “Divine Intervention is now taking place on a dramatic, unprecedented basis -- worldwide.
    This is causing a complete, systematic failure of the war machine on every level.
    Guns will not fire. Radio and satellite communications systems are breaking down -- right when they are needed most. Airplanes and tanks will not start. Bombs will not deploy.
    Even more surprisingly, dozens of underground bases have now been completely emptied out -- beginning on August 23, 2011.”

    And yet there’s not one single source anyone can go to to verify even one of these events he states as fact unless it is someone like Bill Wood or Ben or perhaps Drake. Where is one single independently verifiable fact of one single occurrence amongst all the purported occurrences stated above?

    I may be wrong and there may be others who verify even one of these events but I have yet to come across that source. So think about it… how hard would it be to set up a handful of YES, good hearted and well intentioned folks, but still just a handful and of the personality type susceptible to the savior complex?

    And knowing what mind control can do to someone (and mind control is not solely relegated to being performed by just other human beings), and knowing what I have been through and how unstable I have been in my life (and knowing that I am like a brand new sober alcoholic with a long way to go before I actually stabilize), it is not a far reach to consider these 4 guys may be under similar influences. How comfortable am I that this is possible? Especially when due diligence from Vivek and others has brought forth plenty of food for thought along those lines?

    Is it worth it to roll the dice that this Plan, real or not, is not possibly a setup? Here we are… beating the drum of change, but really… are these folks, if Drake is an example, who we want taking over? The talk of executions, etc. Ridiculous. I am sorry, but the last several days starting with how Vivek’s thread was handled and the fact there has been no apology and the fact that lives were threatened – I am sorry – no way I can support this – You think the so called positive ETs support the way this was handled? If so, they ain’t positive ETs in my book, they are the s.o.s. and we are all being set up, well… all who fall for it at least which sadly may just be enough for the PTBs to declare martial law. How would we drum beaters feel if that turned out to be the case and we were part of the reason why?

    Anyways, I apologize I have flipped again, but we do have the right to change our minds when new, significant information comes about and I can assure you this last week’s new information is significant, we have the right to change our mind.

    Now I am going back to Houman’s Horus-Ra thread and see if I can learn more about what I can do to help myself – a self that has clearly been opened up to these non earthly forces so perhaps I can clean up enough to be of actual good to others.

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