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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by wynderer (here)
    OK Wyn - so having seen this post, I am assuming that we humans who are not complicit with this alien force are all on our own and therefore we only have ourselves to rely on for any solution if there is one. Please, tell me if I am assuming correctly and if I am not, then please tell me what can help us?

    Thanks justone


    Hi Justone -- you may have noticed that i have not responded to this question when you asked it before --
    i may be wrong about this --pls know it's just my observations

    i've known some people involved in the black arts of their own free will -- w/3 of them, the last time[s] i saw each, i picked up that they were getting nervous about what they had done -- [probably reaching that point when they found that their master lied to them] --

    i have not asked you the extent of your involvement [not my business unless you choose to talk about it] -- but it seems to me that you must have met some powerful beings on the darkside, so powerful that you seem to be blinded by it still --

    i have told you before that i am certain, i know that the Light is stronger than the darkside -- when i was doing the hippie back-to-the-land thing back in the day, i meditated faithfully every night for 7 yrs [w/a few misses due to succumbing to alcohol & getting a really bad hangover]

    one night i found myself in front of a huge stage w/a huge red curtain over it -- i was near the edge of the stage, a tiny little figure there

    someone pullled back just the teeniest bit of the edge of the curtain , & i was zapped just for a few seconds by a Light & Love so powerful & so loving -- Love beyond anything the Human mind can take in, let alone process

    if the curtain had been pulled all the way back, or if i'd been in the Light much longer, i think i would have been vaporized [what a way to go, tho!]

    there was so much knowledge/info/wisdom also -- i could not retain most of it because of the limitations of the Human mind/brain

    what i did bring back was seeing this whole yin/yang Universe as a circle contained in the infinite Circle of Love -- there are probably an infinite number of circles contained in the Great Circle

    & this was very very real -- way more real than 3D

    i was thinking about this once, & wondered why such a powerful force is so difficult to access here -- most have to meditate faithfully & work hard to get there, to connect -- when i learned about the Matrix & the controllers, i got my answer

    i have also had some powerful beings of Light come to my aid when i was in danger -- i saw them once --
    psychics, when i used to go, could see them too [some of the psychics got nervous then]

    i think we all have to find our own way to the Light -- it is waiting for you too -- you too are a soul created by the Creator -- perhaps you were told a lot of lies by those in the darkside re the power of the evil here vs the Power of the Creator

    hope this made sense

    wyn
    Hi Wyn... my question was prompted by the information provided in the quote you highlighted in your post - which upon my reading it implied we were screwed unless we do something about it -

    Quote The Conclusions Are Inescapable.
    (1) The secret power structure believes that, because of our own ignorance or by Divine Decree, planet Earth will self-destruct sometime in the near future. The-se men sincerely believe that they are doing the right thing in their attempt to save the human race. It is terribly ironic that they have been forced to take as their partner an alien race which is itself engaged in a monumental struggle for survival. Many moral and legal compromises were made in error and must be corrected and those responsible should be made to account for their actions. I can understand the fear and urgency that must have been instrumental in the decision not to tell the public. Obviously I disagree with this decision. Throughout history small but powerful groups of men have consistently felt that they alone were capable of deciding the fates of millions and throughout history have been wrong. This great nation owes its very existence to the Principles of Freedom and Democracy. I believe with all my heart that the United States of America cannot and will not succeed in any effort that ignores those principles. Full disclosure to the public should be made and we should proceed to save the human race altogether.
    (2) We are being manipulated by a joint human/alien power structure which will result in the total enslavement and or destruction of the human race. We must use any and every means available to prevent this from happening.
    (3) The government has been totally deceived and we are being manipulated by an alien power which will result in the total enslavement and/or destruction of the human race. We must use any and all means available to prevent this from happening.
    (4) Something else is happening which is beyond our ability to understand at this time. We must force disclosure of all the facts, discover the truth and act upon the truth.
    Now you gave your answer via an example of an experience you had which you interpret to come from some non human benevolent source - so finally I have what I am interpreting to be a direct answer of... and I am simply paraphrasing - "No, we physical/3D humans on earth are not in this fight alone, we have assistance from a non human benevolent force which I have experienced personally."

    I am glad to hear this from you because I greatly respect you as you are very involved in many threads that I am very interested in. I am real, real happy to hear this and I will tell you why. I don't know you and I could be wrong but you come across as completely honest. Based on your experiences, I always read your posts carefully and with a very open and optimistic mind. My questions to you are seeking direct answers and this last post of yours is about as direct as you can get.

    Now, to clarify something. I am a benevolent being. I never owned guns, never wanted to harm another being and never advocated harm in any way, only self defense. I have studied every possible religion, thought system, mystical path, etc. you can imagine. In my investigation I had to include the study of satanism as well as luciferianism. I created a relationship with real human beings who were involved in a positive (seemingly at least to me) dragon society. Throughout all my investigations, I also carried with me my own, self developed system of corroboration. I went through a period where I experienced a massive amount of synchronicities all related to the various magical systems and came out of that experience with the conclusions that magic is nothing more than a game children might play. Read that again - all magic is simply a game world for kids who still haven't grown up.

    I cast that all aside.

    I have my own technique of verification I am on the correct path via a combination of gut and external verification much like a shaman reads clouds. I developed my system directly with spirit and created my own code systems via colors, animal actions (especially birds), cloud patterns, numbers and words (english language). Thus I live a life now that I can ask spirit to confirm something for me and it will through the language I have developed personally. There are a zilion mystics that have come before me and who live today (perhaps we all are) but some self realized then went to the next steps of putting their communications systems into a book and then provided it to others and these often became revered systems by followers.

    I never did this for two simple reasons - a.) followers always screw things up and sometimes a new religion will be created out of it b.) because my system is personal to and for me and to share it with others casts the light upon myself I am something special (or that I think I am) so I saw (and still see) no purpose in sharing my system of communication with spirit with another.

    My questions are based on concerns that perhaps what I may be communicating with is ultimately malevolent. That I (nor any of us) need to rely on anything outside of ourselves. That may sound a bit egotistical as well as extremely unrealistic but the question I have is very real and for a very good reason - Is it possible the archontic forces CAN manipulate the reality all the way to the level of the full blown spirit communication I have via my systems as well as voice communications I experience?

    It is likely an impossible question for anyone to answer for another human being. Even more - it is impossible to know if the human being that may be having this type of experience that I am having is deceiving themselves.

    I have experienced dozens of amazing miracles where my life was saved when I should be dead. Folks that know me and have shared in part of my life know this - they say I am lucky - ok so is a lottery winner but the odds are pretty stacked against winning YET people do eventually win.

    My point in all this is that I am very, very concerned that what has saved my ass dozens of times, what I am communicating with through impossible synchronicities (that blow away the examples you hear David Wilcock speak about) - that all of this could be be simply manipulations of the 7 chief archons below the demiurge - these 7 are the prime fashioners of this matrix.

    I have reached the point I do not trust anything anymore - meaning I do not feel comfortable relying on this outside force that has downloaded the wisdom of the ages for example, that is able to communicate with me all the time and which may have saved my butt dozens of times because I am concerned it is all just a setup.

    Now I have shared the deeper question and the details of this question you see my dilemma. I am able to accept that miracles happen in other people's lives and I am able to accept that "something that has ultimate good in mind" is behind those miracles, yet I am having a hard time accepting that this "ultimate good force" is what has been involved in my own life only because I have gone so deep into my relationship with this force.

    Its like - to talk about it - makes it evil... maybe if I just shut up and let it be, it will stay with me and stay on the good side.

    justoneconfusedman
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    from Katari's blog...
    http://katarirosegardenguardian.word...ts-of-babylon/

    ...
    The aliens showed a hologram which they claimed was the actual crucifixion of Christ, which the government filmed. We did not know whether to believe them or not. Were they using GENUINE religions to manipulate us? Or, were they indeed the source of our religions with which they had been manipulating us all along? Or, was this the beginning of the genuine END TIMES and the RETURN OF CHRIST which had been predicted in the Bible? No one knew the answer.
    ...

    Throughout our history the Aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion, magic, witchcraft, and the occult. The Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilaterial Commission are in complete control of the alien technology and are also in complete control of the nation-’s economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 and the Intelligence Community wanted them to know and believe me, it was not the truth.

    ...

    If we had done our jobs as citizens this could never have happened. Most of us are completely ignorant as to even the most basic functions of our government. We have truly became a nation of sheep. Sheep are always eventually led to the slaughter. It is time to stand up in the manner of our forefathers and walk like men. I remind you all, that the Jews of Europe marched obediently to the ovens, after having been warned, believing all the while that the facts could not possibly be true. When the outside world was told of the holocaust occurring in Hitler’s Europe it was not believed. I state here and now that Hitler was manipulated by these same aliens.

    ...

    I have brought you the truth as I know it. I do not care what you think of me. I have done my duty and no matter what fate lies in store for me, I can truly meet my maker with a clear conscience. I believe first in God. The same God my ancestors believed in. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he is my Saviour. I believe second in the Constitution of the United States of America as it was written and meant to work. I have given my oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, I intend to fulfil that oath.

    Thank You
    [here it is hand signed on this copy of the original]
    Milton William Cooper

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Hi Justoneconfusedman --

    i know/intuit that you are a good man

    how can i say this -- i see signs of someone who is under the influence of someone/something that is causing this confusion in you

    confusion is a minor version of chaos -- & it seems to be a tool of satan -- when i first got on the net , looking for info about abductions , i of course got heavily into UFOs/ETs -- sooner or later, w/every line of inquiry, i'd end up in some dead end, all confusing & murky

    i've noticed in recent movies about good vs evil, they often vaguely confuse the two -- blurring the lines w/a little outright lie here & there

    just re-read your post -- where did you get the idea that a force, as you call it, that seems to be acting for good in your life -- where did the idea that it might be malevolent come from?

    Is it possible the archontic forces CAN manipulate the reality all the way to the level of the full blown spirit communication I have via my systems as well as voice communications I experience?

    just re-read again -- yikes! voice communications? -- they can certainly manipulate minds -- i've had some doozies tried on me -- been made to look like a fool more than once [good for humility (:] -- i do not encourage voice communications --

    the system you have created -- i truly hesitate to say what may seem like a criticism -- in a sense you are using symbols -- a big part of magic, i think -- have avoided that all my life-- & i think you know about the controllers' use of symbols to manipulate the collective Human mind, both conscious & unconscious

    so perhaps a structured system is a way for them to get at you? & gives you that sense of uneasiness, of the ground not being firm beneath your feet ?

    just some thoughts -- look forward to your reply

    wyn

    also posting this from your post below, as those are wise words , coming from experience:

    I went through a period where I experienced a massive amount of synchronicities all related to the various magical systems and came out of that experience with the conclusions that magic is nothing more than a game children might play. Read that again - all magic is simply a game world for kids who still haven't grown up.

    wyn

    ===================


    Hi Wyn... my question was prompted by the information provided in the quote you highlighted in your post - which upon my reading it implied we were screwed unless we do something about it -

    Quote The Conclusions Are Inescapable.
    (1) The secret power structure believes that, because of our own ignorance or by Divine Decree, planet Earth will self-destruct sometime in the near future. The-se men sincerely believe that they are doing the right thing in their attempt to save the human race. It is terribly ironic that they have been forced to take as their partner an alien race which is itself engaged in a monumental struggle for survival. Many moral and legal compromises were made in error and must be corrected and those responsible should be made to account for their actions. I can understand the fear and urgency that must have been instrumental in the decision not to tell the public. Obviously I disagree with this decision. Throughout history small but powerful groups of men have consistently felt that they alone were capable of deciding the fates of millions and throughout history have been wrong. This great nation owes its very existence to the Principles of Freedom and Democracy. I believe with all my heart that the United States of America cannot and will not succeed in any effort that ignores those principles. Full disclosure to the public should be made and we should proceed to save the human race altogether.
    (2) We are being manipulated by a joint human/alien power structure which will result in the total enslavement and or destruction of the human race. We must use any and every means available to prevent this from happening.
    (3) The government has been totally deceived and we are being manipulated by an alien power which will result in the total enslavement and/or destruction of the human race. We must use any and all means available to prevent this from happening.
    (4) Something else is happening which is beyond our ability to understand at this time. We must force disclosure of all the facts, discover the truth and act upon the truth.
    Now you gave your answer via an example of an experience you had which you interpret to come from some non human benevolent source - so finally I have what I am interpreting to be a direct answer of... and I am simply paraphrasing - "No, we physical/3D humans on earth are not in this fight alone, we have assistance from a non human benevolent force which I have experienced personally."

    I am glad to hear this from you because I greatly respect you as you are very involved in many threads that I am very interested in. I am real, real happy to hear this and I will tell you why. I don't know you and I could be wrong but you come across as completely honest. Based on your experiences, I always read your posts carefully and with a very open and optimistic mind. My questions to you are seeking direct answers and this last post of yours is about as direct as you can get.

    Now, to clarify something. I am a benevolent being. I never owned guns, never wanted to harm another being and never advocated harm in any way, only self defense. I have studied every possible religion, thought system, mystical path, etc. you can imagine. In my investigation I had to include the study of satanism as well as luciferianism. I created a relationship with real human beings who were involved in a positive (seemingly at least to me) dragon society. Throughout all my investigations, I also carried with me my own, self developed system of corroboration. I went through a period where I experienced a massive amount of synchronicities all related to the various magical systems and came out of that experience with the conclusions that magic is nothing more than a game children might play. Read that again - all magic is simply a game world for kids who still haven't grown up.

    I cast that all aside.

    I have my own technique of verification I am on the correct path via a combination of gut and external verification much like a shaman reads clouds. I developed my system directly with spirit and created my own code systems via colors, animal actions (especially birds), cloud patterns, numbers and words (english language). Thus I live a life now that I can ask spirit to confirm something for me and it will through the language I have developed personally. There are a zilion mystics that have come before me and who live today (perhaps we all are) but some self realized then went to the next steps of putting their communications systems into a book and then provided it to others and these often became revered systems by followers.

    I never did this for two simple reasons - a.) followers always screw things up and sometimes a new religion will be created out of it b.) because my system is personal to and for me and to share it with others casts the light upon myself I am something special (or that I think I am) so I saw (and still see) no purpose in sharing my system of communication with spirit with another.

    My questions are based on concerns that perhaps what I may be communicating with is ultimately malevolent. That I (nor any of us) need to rely on anything outside of ourselves. That may sound a bit egotistical as well as extremely unrealistic but the question I have is very real and for a very good reason - Is it possible the archontic forces CAN manipulate the reality all the way to the level of the full blown spirit communication I have via my systems as well as voice communications I experience?

    It is likely an impossible question for anyone to answer for another human being. Even more - it is impossible to know if the human being that may be having this type of experience that I am having is deceiving themselves.

    I have experienced dozens of amazing miracles where my life was saved when I should be dead. Folks that know me and have shared in part of my life know this - they say I am lucky - ok so is a lottery winner but the odds are pretty stacked against winning YET people do eventually win.

    My point in all this is that I am very, very concerned that what has saved my ass dozens of times, what I am communicating with through impossible synchronicities (that blow away the examples you hear David Wilcock speak about) - that all of this could be be simply manipulations of the 7 chief archons below the demiurge - these 7 are the prime fashioners of this matrix.

    I have reached the point I do not trust anything anymore - meaning I do not feel comfortable relying on this outside force that has downloaded the wisdom of the ages for example, that is able to communicate with me all the time and which may have saved my butt dozens of times because I am concerned it is all just a setup.

    Now I have shared the deeper question and the details of this question you see my dilemma. I am able to accept that miracles happen in other people's lives and I am able to accept that "something that has ultimate good in mind" is behind those miracles, yet I am having a hard time accepting that this "ultimate good force" is what has been involved in my own life only because I have gone so deep into my relationship with this force.

    Its like - to talk about it - makes it evil... maybe if I just shut up and let it be, it will stay with me and stay on the good side.

    justoneconfusedman
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    from Katari's blog...
    http://katarirosegardenguardian.word...ts-of-babylon/

    ...
    The aliens showed a hologram which they claimed was the actual crucifixion of Christ, which the government filmed. We did not know whether to believe them or not. Were they using GENUINE religions to manipulate us? Or, were they indeed the source of our religions with which they had been manipulating us all along? Or, was this the beginning of the genuine END TIMES and the RETURN OF CHRIST which had been predicted in the Bible? No one knew the answer.
    ...

    Throughout our history the Aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion, magic, witchcraft, and the occult. The Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilaterial Commission are in complete control of the alien technology and are also in complete control of the nation-’s economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 and the Intelligence Community wanted them to know and believe me, it was not the truth.

    ...

    If we had done our jobs as citizens this could never have happened. Most of us are completely ignorant as to even the most basic functions of our government. We have truly became a nation of sheep. Sheep are always eventually led to the slaughter. It is time to stand up in the manner of our forefathers and walk like men. I remind you all, that the Jews of Europe marched obediently to the ovens, after having been warned, believing all the while that the facts could not possibly be true. When the outside world was told of the holocaust occurring in Hitler’s Europe it was not believed. I state here and now that Hitler was manipulated by these same aliens.

    ...

    I have brought you the truth as I know it. I do not care what you think of me. I have done my duty and no matter what fate lies in store for me, I can truly meet my maker with a clear conscience. I believe first in God. The same God my ancestors believed in. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he is my Saviour. I believe second in the Constitution of the United States of America as it was written and meant to work. I have given my oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, I intend to fulfil that oath.

    Thank You
    [here it is hand signed on this copy of the original]
    Milton William Cooper
    This is precisely why I ask the questions I ask is because I see so many people who believe in the dark forces represented by aliens or demons or even satan and all those things many of us here have had direct experience with and yet also, some of us who have had direct experiences with these "evil" entities have also had experiences with what we see as angels or good ETs or jesus or some other prophet and even things like christ energies, buddha mind, etc. and the big question is - are those all part of the same overall forces which as long as we buy into any of it, keep us voluntarily stuck in this prison of the soul such that we reincarnate over and over into this same prison (or perhaps even reincarnation is also illusion... it is for Inelia for example)...

    When I was young I looked at it all like this - either I am a child of creation, immortal and eternal (as everyone) or not. And I thought that if I were not, that would be unacceptable. So I made a personal bet with myself that I would prove to myself I was the former and I challenged creation to meet me halfway via communication. I was about 26 years old then. I spent the last 28 or so years developing that communication.

    Now you can imagine that throughout that process what else would I have to overcome in order to get real close to actual source with little between myself and that source... a huge bunch of BS... HUGE. Perhaps it is an eternal journey but I know I am a lot closer now and sad to say folks but IMO religion is part of the BS. Now I know that statement is probably rejected by just about everyone, especially the jesus and christ consciousness folks (unless they have transcended religion completely), but as long as we see ourselves within some matrix in any way and at any level, it seems we are somehow separate from our core, source, god if you will... in fact, I would capitalize it and call it God representing my own respect for source.

    I have a fantasy (some folks I know say this was actually true) that there was a time on earth where man was in harmony with the rest of nature and that somehow we lost that connection. Could it be some ET race that came and hybridized man and we are the children of that action and that's why we are in the position we are in now? Well if you consider Enoch and other stories, there may be more truth to this than most folks wanna believe and surely more truth to it than what most religions want you to know.

    But that makes the most sense to me. So which part of me do I listen to? The off world parent that perhaps performed an act upon a less evolved (innocent) race of humans? Sorta like an adult that has sex with a far too young child and they have a baby? And is it possible this off-world ancestor sees the children as animals to be eaten? We providing at least their loosh and if we read Houman's threads this goes all the way to actual consumption of fellow humans (after sodomizing them and whatever other form of violation they fancy)? But that's just one level. There's the non human, perhaps other dimensional level... and then again, that also is just another level below what is perhaps the 7 archons and ultimately the demiurge itself.

    So what is the solution folks? I do absolutely believe we have to individually wake up. And that may be the only way out and as Houman suggested (seems he mentioned an Italian researcher's suggestion) - the 100th monkey may be the only way out. Sadly though (and as it seems Bill Ryan suspects) this make take several more generations.

    My fear is - I wonder if there will be any innocent humans left who are still able to free themselves of the matrix? I would hate to make odds on that one.

    Anyway, there are posters here on Avalon who are pretty well unplugged (I am still yanking out the cords as exemplified in how much I wanted Drake to be real)... so thanks Avalonians because I doubt I could have come this far if it weren't for you guys (many who challenged me on my own BS).

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    I should have waited for wyn's reply - anyways - you have probably heard of how Native Americans could read signs like based on the wind, the clouds, the flights of birds, the movements of animals... traits I hear are considered traits of shamans - that's the sort of stuff I refer to. Its like, I would have a question inside about an important dilemma and I would say to myself, am I seeing this correctly? And I would look up in the sky and see an almost perfect eye of horus in the cloud (that I could also point out to someone with me and say, hey... what does that look like and they would say Wow - looks like the eye of horus - meaning its not a hallucination). That is just a tiny example of what I mean.

    I have developed this ability over the years (consciously worked on it for almost 30 years) and I used this method to get answers to very specific questions related to the development of my soul and this person that is from that soul in this lifetime. The deepest questions you can ask - and I challenged the satanic forces themselves and I pissed off real people dozens of times who are easily capable of having me murdered (no exaggeration) and yet, I am still here... why?

    So here I am now and I want to get a group of folks together, contact satanists that may be involved in the practice of human sacrifice and begin a dialogue as to how we can as a planet, put that practice into the history books and never return to it again. That is how serious I am. Just form a small group and meet with them and explore how the practice could be stopped. Go and arrest them? haha unless they want to stop, upon their death the demons inside would just find other hosts... Instead we meet with them as loving relatives that intervene with drug addicts and/or alcoholics. I know that sounds nuts to 99.99999% of the folks who would read my idea but think about it. They are part of our collective human family. Gotta reach out and say hey, why can't you consider trying to stop drinking? We will help you get off the sauce if you just say you want help and would be willing to get real rehabilitation. Then what would these non earthly entities have to do? Go somewhere else to get their food supply.

    I know I sound nuts but I see no other solution lest we wait generations and that's a dice roll to me and I hate to leave my kids here with the odds getting worse and worse every day.

    Maybe there won't be a hundred monkeys left.
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    i think most Humans are going to remain on 3D earth, stuck into another hideous 'karmic' time loop w/the dark forces totally in control, morphing Humans into non-Humans [tho they will likely keep some real Humans breeding also]

    like Bill Cooper, i also know that Jesus Christ is the way out of here -- not in the 'You have to say that I am Lord or you can't come' sense -- i think that somehow the Crucifixion & the Resurrection ripped a big & permanent hole in the Matrix -- to me the Christ is the Love of the Creator here on Earth -- this love can be found in Humans of all & of no religions -- Earth is also an expression/manifestation of that same Love

    i don't know if this is the thread for this -- altho satanists are a big part of the NWO control system, & their
    head dude does not like Jesus

    wyn


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    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    from Katari's blog...
    http://katarirosegardenguardian.word...ts-of-babylon/

    ...
    The aliens showed a hologram which they claimed was the actual crucifixion of Christ, which the government filmed. We did not know whether to believe them or not. Were they using GENUINE religions to manipulate us? Or, were they indeed the source of our religions with which they had been manipulating us all along? Or, was this the beginning of the genuine END TIMES and the RETURN OF CHRIST which had been predicted in the Bible? No one knew the answer.
    ...

    Throughout our history the Aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion, magic, witchcraft, and the occult. The Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilaterial Commission are in complete control of the alien technology and are also in complete control of the nation-’s economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 and the Intelligence Community wanted them to know and believe me, it was not the truth.

    ...

    If we had done our jobs as citizens this could never have happened. Most of us are completely ignorant as to even the most basic functions of our government. We have truly became a nation of sheep. Sheep are always eventually led to the slaughter. It is time to stand up in the manner of our forefathers and walk like men. I remind you all, that the Jews of Europe marched obediently to the ovens, after having been warned, believing all the while that the facts could not possibly be true. When the outside world was told of the holocaust occurring in Hitler’s Europe it was not believed. I state here and now that Hitler was manipulated by these same aliens.

    ...

    I have brought you the truth as I know it. I do not care what you think of me. I have done my duty and no matter what fate lies in store for me, I can truly meet my maker with a clear conscience. I believe first in God. The same God my ancestors believed in. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he is my Saviour. I believe second in the Constitution of the United States of America as it was written and meant to work. I have given my oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, I intend to fulfil that oath.

    Thank You
    [here it is hand signed on this copy of the original]
    Milton William Cooper
    This is precisely why I ask the questions I ask is because I see so many people who believe in the dark forces represented by aliens or demons or even satan and all those things many of us here have had direct experience with and yet also, some of us who have had direct experiences with these "evil" entities have also had experiences with what we see as angels or good ETs or jesus or some other prophet and even things like christ energies, buddha mind, etc. and the big question is - are those all part of the same overall forces which as long as we buy into any of it, keep us voluntarily stuck in this prison of the soul such that we reincarnate over and over into this same prison (or perhaps even reincarnation is also illusion... it is for Inelia for example)...

    When I was young I looked at it all like this - either I am a child of creation, immortal and eternal (as everyone) or not. And I thought that if I were not, that would be unacceptable. So I made a personal bet with myself that I would prove to myself I was the former and I challenged creation to meet me halfway via communication. I was about 26 years old then. I spent the last 28 or so years developing that communication.

    Now you can imagine that throughout that process what else would I have to overcome in order to get real close to actual source with little between myself and that source... a huge bunch of BS... HUGE. Perhaps it is an eternal journey but I know I am a lot closer now and sad to say folks but IMO religion is part of the BS. Now I know that statement is probably rejected by just about everyone, especially the jesus and christ consciousness folks (unless they have transcended religion completely), but as long as we see ourselves within some matrix in any way and at any level, it seems we are somehow separate from our core, source, god if you will... in fact, I would capitalize it and call it God representing my own respect for source.

    I have a fantasy (some folks I know say this was actually true) that there was a time on earth where man was in harmony with the rest of nature and that somehow we lost that connection. Could it be some ET race that came and hybridized man and we are the children of that action and that's why we are in the position we are in now? Well if you consider Enoch and other stories, there may be more truth to this than most folks wanna believe and surely more truth to it than what most religions want you to know.

    But that makes the most sense to me. So which part of me do I listen to? The off world parent that perhaps performed an act upon a less evolved (innocent) race of humans? Sorta like an adult that has sex with a far too young child and they have a baby? And is it possible this off-world ancestor sees the children as animals to be eaten? We providing at least their loosh and if we read Houman's threads this goes all the way to actual consumption of fellow humans (after sodomizing them and whatever other form of violation they fancy)? But that's just one level. There's the non human, perhaps other dimensional level... and then again, that also is just another level below what is perhaps the 7 archons and ultimately the demiurge itself.

    So what is the solution folks? I do absolutely believe we have to individually wake up. And that may be the only way out and as Houman suggested (seems he mentioned an Italian researcher's suggestion) - the 100th monkey may be the only way out. Sadly though (and as it seems Bill Ryan suspects) this make take several more generations.

    My fear is - I wonder if there will be any innocent humans left who are still able to free themselves of the matrix? I would hate to make odds on that one.

    Anyway, there are posters here on Avalon who are pretty well unplugged (I am still yanking out the cords as exemplified in how much I wanted Drake to be real)... so thanks Avalonians because I doubt I could have come this far if it weren't for you guys (many who challenged me on my own BS).

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    I should have waited for wyn's reply - anyways - you have probably heard of how Native Americans could read signs like based on the wind, the clouds, the flights of birds, the movements of animals... traits I hear are considered traits of shamans - that's the sort of stuff I refer to. Its like, I would have a question inside about an important dilemma and I would say to myself, am I seeing this correctly? And I would look up in the sky and see an almost perfect eye of horus in the cloud (that I could also point out to someone with me and say, hey... what does that look like and they would say Wow - looks like the eye of horus - meaning its not a hallucination). That is just a tiny example of what I mean.

    I have developed this ability over the years (consciously worked on it for almost 30 years) and I used this method to get answers to very specific questions related to the development of my soul and this person that is from that soul in this lifetime. The deepest questions you can ask - and I challenged the satanic forces themselves and I pissed off real people dozens of times who are easily capable of having me murdered (no exaggeration) and yet, I am still here... why?

    So here I am now and I want to get a group of folks together, contact satanists that may be involved in the practice of human sacrifice and begin a dialogue as to how we can as a planet, put that practice into the history books and never return to it again. That is how serious I am. Just form a small group and meet with them and explore how the practice could be stopped. Go and arrest them? haha unless they want to stop, upon their death the demons inside would just find other hosts... Instead we meet with them as loving relatives that intervene with drug addicts and/or alcoholics. I know that sounds nuts to 99.99999% of the folks who would read my idea but think about it. They are part of our collective human family. Gotta reach out and say hey, why can't you consider trying to stop drinking? We will help you get off the sauce if you just say you want help and would be willing to get real rehabilitation. Then what would these non earthly entities have to do? Go somewhere else to get their food supply.

    I know I sound nuts but I see no other solution lest we wait generations and that's a dice roll to me and I hate to leave my kids here with the odds getting worse and worse every day.

    Maybe there won't be a hundred monkeys left.

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    i think most Humans are going to remain on 3D earth, stuck into another hideous 'karmic' time loop w/the dark forces totally in control, morphing Humans into non-Humans [tho they will likely keep some real Humans breeding also]

    like Bill Cooper, i also know that Jesus Christ is the way out of here -- not in the 'You have to say that I am Lord or you can't come' sense -- i think that somehow the Crucifixion & the Resurrection ripped a big & permanent hole in the Matrix -- to me the Christ is the Love of the Creator here on Earth -- this love can be found in Humans of all & of no religions -- Earth is also an expression/manifestation of that same Love

    i don't know if this is the thread for this -- altho satanists are a big part of the NWO control system, & their
    head dude does not like Jesus

    wyn
    There is nothing I can say to what you said there except it was beautiful, direct and I completely understand.

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    I know I sound nuts but I see no other solution lest we wait generations and that's a dice roll to me and I hate to leave my kids here with the odds getting worse and worse every day.

    Maybe there won't be a hundred monkeys left.
    It may sound nuts to many, however, it is that very idea that started Bill Ryan dialoguing with Charles/Atticus/Stephen and his "master."

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    Justoneman -- i was stuck in a house a few yrs ago w/a man raised in a satanist home -- had 3 alters at least, the ones i saw -- he had been further trained by our military in doing some nasty things w/his mind -- i escaped w/my life

    also i learned from Duncan O'Finiaon's blog of something called 'dream lodge stalking' on the astral planes, which explained something that was going on in my life -- also i have had a coven at least once attack me full force psychically

    i stay as far away from these people as possible

    the other Avalon member i mentioned in an earlier post who is of the bloodlines & who talks w/some who hold power -- also suggested a sit-down w/these guys, thinking they could fix things

    this makes me uneasy -- i know how easily & subtly evil can hook a person --that old saying -- that the devil likes 2 things best in Humans -- that they believe he does not exist, or that they spend too much time thinking about him

    it seems like you are keeping a door open , one that i try to keep shut

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    I should have waited for wyn's reply - anyways - you have probably heard of how Native Americans could read signs like based on the wind, the clouds, the flights of birds, the movements of animals... traits I hear are considered traits of shamans - that's the sort of stuff I refer to. Its like, I would have a question inside about an important dilemma and I would say to myself, am I seeing this correctly? And I would look up in the sky and see an almost perfect eye of horus in the cloud (that I could also point out to someone with me and say, hey... what does that look like and they would say Wow - looks like the eye of horus - meaning its not a hallucination). That is just a tiny example of what I mean.

    I have developed this ability over the years (consciously worked on it for almost 30 years) and I used this method to get answers to very specific questions related to the development of my soul and this person that is from that soul in this lifetime. The deepest questions you can ask - and I challenged the satanic forces themselves and I pissed off real people dozens of times who are easily capable of having me murdered (no exaggeration) and yet, I am still here... why?

    So here I am now and I want to get a group of folks together, contact satanists that may be involved in the practice of human sacrifice and begin a dialogue as to how we can as a planet, put that practice into the history books and never return to it again. That is how serious I am. Just form a small group and meet with them and explore how the practice could be stopped. Go and arrest them? haha unless they want to stop, upon their death the demons inside would just find other hosts... Instead we meet with them as loving relatives that intervene with drug addicts and/or alcoholics. I know that sounds nuts to 99.99999% of the folks who would read my idea but think about it. They are part of our collective human family. Gotta reach out and say hey, why can't you consider trying to stop drinking? We will help you get off the sauce if you just say you want help and would be willing to get real rehabilitation. Then what would these non earthly entities have to do? Go somewhere else to get their food supply.

    I know I sound nuts but I see no other solution lest we wait generations and that's a dice roll to me and I hate to leave my kids here with the odds getting worse and worse every day.

    Maybe there won't be a hundred monkeys left.

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    From "Bringers of the Dawn" by Barbara Marciniak. This book is one of the few works cited on the veilofreality.wordpress.com website that produced the videos "Know Thyself" and "Love and the Time of Transition" Houman originally posted. This excerpt discusses the view of how we got to be in the mess we are in today.

    I am posting these following three excerpts because, although offering interesting descriptions, some of the material is rather suspect in light of the Horus-Ra connection and the negative ET's agenda to program the masses.

    Any thoughts are welcomed.

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    Humanity is an experiment. Humanity has been designed, as has just about everything else that exists within creation. Prime Creator began experimenting with creation a long time ago in this universe for the purpose of greater self-exploration, self-gratification, and self-expression. Prime Creator brought energies and essences of life-extensions of itself-into this universe and endowed those extensions withthe gifts that it had. It gave willingly and freely of its capabilities. There are many other universes and many other ways of designing universes; this particular one was designed as a free-will zone in which all would be allowed.

    Prime Creator said to these extensions of itself, "Go out and create and bring all things back to me." This was quite a simple assignment, was it not? In other words, Prime Creator was saying, "I am going to gift you of myself. You go out and gift of yourselves freely so that all you create in this universe can understand its essence as my identity."

    These extensions of Prime Creator, which we will call creator gods, went out and began to experiment with Prime Creator's energy as it existed within themselves. They began to create their own hierarchy, which in turn created other hierarchies. Each succeeding hierarchy created another hierarchy to endow it with its own essence and to assist in the development of this universe. Eventually, in one of the galactic systems, a plan came together to design Earth as an intergalactic exchange center of information. It was an incredible plan. Earth was a beautiful place, located on the fringes of one of the galactic systems and easily reached from other galaxies. It was close to many way portals, the highways that exist for energies to travel throughout space.

    There was much scurrying and shuffling to create individual representation from all of the galaxies here upon this planet. Some of the creator gods were master geneticists. They were able through their hierarchies to tie molecules togetherencoded molecules of identity, frequency, and electrical chargeto create life. Many sentient civilizations gave of their DNA to have representation of their coding upon this planet. The master geneticists then designed various species, some human, some animal, by playing with the varieties of DNA that the sentient civilizations contributed to make Earth into this exchange center of information, this light center, this Living Library. The plan for Earth was a grand one.

    The Original Planners of Earth were members of the Family of Light, beings who worked for and were associated with an aspect of consciousness called light. Light is information. The Family of Light created the information center they had conceived of; they designed a place where galaxies would contribute their information and where all would be able to participate and share their specific knowledge. Earth was to be a cosmic library, a place of incredible beauty that experimented with how information could be stored through frequencies and through the genetic process.

    Outside the structure of time,100,000 years can pass in what may be a year within the structure of time as you know it. These creator gods did not exist in time as you know it. A few hundred thousand years or a million years was nothing to them. Different energies were brought into existence. There were species of humans on Earth perhaps 500,000 years ago who developed very highly evolved civilizations. We are not speaking of the civilizations that you call Lemuria or Atlantis; to us, those civilizations are modern. W'e are talking about civilizations that are ancient, civilizations that are buried under some of the ice caps of the far southern continent of Antarctica.

    The project of the Living Library on Earth was eventually fought over. It looked enticing enough to be mined by some. During Earth's early history, there were w°ars in space for ownership of this planet. Have you ever wondered who owns Earth? It's a prime hunk of real estate. Do you think it would go ownerless in space?

    Skirmishes took place, and Earth became a place of duality. Certain creator gods who had the right to do whatever they wanted-because Earth is a free-will zone-came in and took over. We call this "raiding"the Earth. It was like corporate raiding on Wall Street. These creator gods raided Earth approximately 300,000 years ago-the time period, historically speaking, that you would call the beginning of human civilization. This is merely the time period that you, in this present day, are taught was the beginning of civilization. In actuality, it was only the beginning of the later phase, the phase of modern humanity.

    When this skirmish occurred, a certain group of entities fought in space and won the territory of Earth. These new owners did not want the native Earth species-the humans-to be informed of what took place. Uninformed, the species would be easier to control. This is why light is information and darkness is lack of information. These entities beat out light, and Earth became their territory. It gives you a new idea of light, does it not? There was great radioactivity and nuclear action, and much of Earth was rent asunder. The original species, human creation, experienced great destruction and was scattered.

    These new creator gods who were the new owners were also master geneticists. They understood how to create life, and they wanted this territory for their own reasons. Territories are created and held by certain energies for many reasons, one of which is that there is consciousness within all things.

    Consciousness communicates continuously. Consciousness vibrates, or can be led to vibrate, at certain electromagnetic frequencies. Electromagnetic energies of consciousness can be influenced to vibrate in a certain way to create a source of food. Just as apples can he prepared and eaten in a variety of ways, consciousness can be prepared and ingested in a variety of ways.

    Some entities, in the process of their own evolution, began to discover that as they created life and put consciousness into things through modulating the frequencies of forms of consciousness, they could feed themselves; they could keep themselves in charge. They began to Figure out that this is how Prime Creator nourished itself. Prime Creator sends out others to create an electromagnetic frequency of consciousness as a food source for itself.

    The new owners of this planet had a different appetite and different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves with chaos and fear. These things fed them, stimulated them, and kept them in power.

    These new owners who came here 300,000 years ago are the magnificent beings spoken of in your Bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets, and in texts all over the world. They came to Earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power.

    The original human was a magnificent being whose twelve strands of DNA were contributed by a variety of sentient civilizations. When the new owners came in, they worked in their laboratories and created versions of humans with a different DNA-the two-stranded, double-helix DNA. They took the original DNA of the human species and disassembled it. The original DNA pattern was left within the human cells, yet it was not functional; it was split apart, unplugged.

    Within human cells are light-encoded filaments, fine gossamer threads of energy that carry information. When these gossamer threads are working together like a cable-the way fiber optics works-they form the helix of your DNA. When you here rearranged, you were left with the double helix. Anything that was unnecessary for survival and that could keep you informed was unplugged, leaving you with only a double helix that would lock you into controllable, operable frequencies.

    A frequency fence, something like an electrical fence, was put around the-planet to control how much the frequencies of humans could be modulated and changed. As the story goes, this frequency fencemade it very difficult for the frequencies of light-information-to penetrate. When light frequencies were able to penetrate the control fence, there was no light to receive them. The humans' DNA was unplugged, the light-encoded filaments were no longer organized, so the creative cosmic rays that brought light did not have anything to plug into and hold onto.
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    A little more from "Bringers of the Dawn"

    There are many misconceptions about the idea of godhood. The universes are full of intelligent beings who have, over time, evolved and developed all sorts of capabilities and functions to serve their needs to express themselves creatively. The importance behind existence and consciousness is creativity, and creativity takes many forms.

    Eons ago, Earth was but a thought in the minds of great beings who had set before themselves the task of creating new forms of existence. Many of these beings affected the creation of this universe, and you have termed them God. In actuality, they were extraterrestrial light-bearing energies far removed from Prime Creator. We rarely use the term God with a big G. If we were to use that term, we would be referring to the entity we know as Prime Creator. Prime Creator, in its own personal implosion through love, endowed all things with consciousness. All things are Prime Creator on Prime Creator's journey.
    We see ourselves as an extension of Prime Creator-always gathering information, going off on adventures, and doing whatever we need to do to make our lives more interesting and challenging so that we can feed Prime Creator. As we feed Prime Creator through our schemes and our endeavors, we endow Prime Creator with greater energy to give to new creations.

    We have never gotten close to the entity Prime Creator. Even those of us who are beings of the grandest light vibration do not have the capacity at this stage of our evolution to be in proximity to Prime Creator. We are not prepared enough to handle the intensity of that emanation. It is our desire at some point in our evolution to get a glimpse of and perhaps merge with Prime Creator for a time. We know that this is possible, so it is something we strive for.

    The evolution of consciousness and the ability to house information is what allows one to come into the proximity of Prime Creator. Many people on Earth have felt that they have merged with God. They mayhave merged with a portion of Prime Creator that best suited their vibration at the time. The total vibration of Prime Creator would destroy the physical vehicle in an instant, because it cannot house that much information. Those that represent "God" to you are but a minute portion of Prime Creator.

    Even Prime Creator is but a portion of something larger. Prime Creator is always discovering that it is a child of another creation and that it is in a constant process of self-discovery and awareness. Remember, consciousness is within all things, and consciousness was never invented, it simply was. Consciousness is knowing, and your knowing is your closest place to Prime Creator. When you trust what you know, you are activating the God within you.

    At this time, there is a great awareness moving over the planet as to how big the world really is and as to who's who in the world ballgame: not only who's who in the world ballgame, but who's who in the cosmic ballgame.

    Just as you have hierarchies upon Earth that you may or may not be aware of, there are hierarchies in the cosmos. You can live within a certain area and not be aware that any hierarchy exists. You can farm your land, pay your taxes, decide not to vote, and simply be oblivious to any bureaucratic political structure. In somewhat the same way, Earth is oblivious to the bureaucratic political structure that operates in the universe.

    It is important for you to understand that bureaucracies or hierarchies exist, and that these organizations have different experiences of time than you do. Others do not live within the structure of time as you know it. What you call one year perhaps to others may be only one small portion of a day. If you can really begin to comprehend this, you can understand why this planet has seemingly been left to itself for the last few thousand years. Now-, activity is beginning to bubble and boil again from the skies, and you will be faced with inserting a vast amount of new knowledge into your paradigms and your belief systems. This plan et is in for a culture shock-a big surprise.

    You have come here at this time for a certain purpose: Those creator gods who rearranged the human species are returning. Some of them are already here. This planet has been visited over and over again, and many different forms of human being have been seeded here through a variety of experiments. There have been many influential factors that have created the course of history on Earth. There have been civilizations on this planet that have existed for millions of years that have come and gone and not left a trace. These civilizations, each and every one of them, were influenced by those you may term God.
    Your history has been influenced by a number of light beings whom you have termed God. In the Bible, many of these beings have been combined to represent one being, when they were not one being at all, but a combination of very powerful, extraterrestrial light-being energies. They were indeed awesome energies from our perspective, and it is easy to understand why they were glorified and worshiped.

    There is no literature on Earth that gives you a true picture of these beings. All of the gods came here to learn and to enhance their own development through working with creativity, consciousness, and energy. Some became very successful and mastered their own lessons, while some made quite devastating errors.

    Who were these gods from ancient times? They were beings who were able to move reality and to command the spirits of nature to bend to their will. Humans have traditionally called beings God who could do things that the human race could not do. These beings were passed down through the ancient cultures of may- societies, portrayed as winged creatures and balls of light. The world is permeated with hints, clues, and artifacts of who your gods have been. However, those wo wished to manipulate humans made up their owm stories to create a paradigm that would control you. You were told that these beings were truly gods, and you were taught to worship, obey, and adore them. This paradigm is now on the verge of making a gigantic shift. The truth is going to come forward, a truth that will completely change the way you view the world. Woe be to those wo are unwilling to look. The shock reverberations are going to move around the world.

    The creator gods who have been ruling this planet have the ability to become physical, though mostly they exist in other dimensions. They keep Earth in a certain vibrational frequency while they create emotional trauma to nourish themselves. There are some beings who honor life before everything else, and there are also beings who do not honor life and do not understand their connection to it.

    Consciousness feeds consciousness. It is hard for you to understand this concept because you feed yourself with food. The food for some beings is consciousness. All food contains consciousness at some point in its own development, whether you fry it, boil it, or pick it from the garden; you ingest it to keep yourself nourished. Your emotions are food for others. When you are controlled to bring about havoc and frenzy, you are creating a vibrational frequency that supports the existence of these others because that is how they are nourished.

    There are those who live off the vibration of love, and that group would like to reestablish the food of love on this planet. They would like to turn this universe into the frequency of love so that it can have the opportunity to go out and seed other worlds.

    You represent the renegade group of light, and you have agreed to come back on the planet. You are on assignment. You come into these physical bodies and take them over, and you intend, through the power of your spiritual identity, to change the physical body. You all selected with great care he genetic lines that would best give you head starts with all of this. Each of you chose a genetic history through which members of the Family of Light have threaded.

    When human beings existed in their rightful domain and could understand many realities, they had the ability to be multidimensional, to be one and equal with the gods. You are beginning to awaken this identity within yourself.
    The gods raided this reality. Just like corporate raiders in your time come in and take over a business because perhaps the pension funds are in great abundance, so the funds upon this planet were in great abundance at the time these raider gods appeared. In order to have you believe they were Gods with a big G, they rearranged you genetically.

    That is when the Family of Light was scattered from the planet, and the dark team, which operated out of ignorance, came in. Your bodies carry a fear and a memory of striving for the knowledge that those gods represented and took away from you. The gods who did this are magnificent space creatures. They can do many kinds of manipulations and work with realities in many different ways. Humans, in ignorance, began to call these space creatures God with a big G.

    God with a big G has never visited this planet as an entity. God with a big G is in all things. You have only dealt with gods with a little g who have wanted to be adored and to confuse you, and who have thought of Earth as a principality, a place that they own out in the galactic fringes of this free-will universe.

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    Quote Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
    From "Bringers of the Dawn" by Barbara Marciniak. This book is one of the few works cited on the veilofreality.wordpress.com website that produced the videos "Know Thyself" and "Love and the Time of Transition" Houman originally posted. This excerpt discusses the view of how we got to be in the mess we are in today. Any thoughts are welcomed.
    The problem with channeled messages is that you don't know who is speaking on the other side of the line (an alter, a demon, a parasite, a benevolent being)... so these things should never be taken at face value (Springmeier has a nice example on how the British conned the German during WWII by sending them info (90%) mixed with dis-info (10% on the range of their radars))...


    Note also that several researchers have observed a connection between "channeling" MPD (split personalities) and plain old possession... another reason to not take these things at face value...

    In one example the "entity" being channeled was asked if the channeler knew that she was channeling an alter and the response from the entity was that the channeler was not ready to face it...

    http://jdc.jefferson.edu/cgi/viewcon...0channeling%22
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    thank you for this, Anthony, but i do not agree that Humans were made by gods -- just the use of the word 'gods' is a red flag for me re 'ETs' --

    especially the good gods--bad gods scenario -- that could easily be a set-up for the 'good ETs/gods' coming to rescue us from the 'bad ETs/gods'

    & saying that Humans are meant to be equal to the 'gods' -- the Reptilians consider themselves vastly superior to Humans [except for the ones who put up a good fight]

    i believe Barbara Marciniak has a sister, who contacted me once -- won't go into the story except to say that i believe B Marciniak is a [probably well-meaning] agent of the alien agenda



    Quote Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
    A little more from "Bringers of the Dawn"

    There are many misconceptions about the idea of godhood. The universes are full of intelligent beings who have, over time, evolved and developed all sorts of capabilities and functions to serve their needs to express themselves creatively. The importance behind existence and consciousness is creativity, and creativity takes many forms.

    Eons ago, Earth was but a thought in the minds of great beings who had set before themselves the task of creating new forms of existence. Many of these beings affected the creation of this universe, and you have termed them God. In actuality, they were extraterrestrial light-bearing energies far removed from Prime Creator. We rarely use the term God with a big G. If we were to use that term, we would be referring to the entity we know as Prime Creator. Prime Creator, in its own personal implosion through love, endowed all things with consciousness. All things are Prime Creator on Prime Creator's journey.
    We see ourselves as an extension of Prime Creator-always gathering information, going off on adventures, and doing whatever we need to do to make our lives more interesting and challenging so that we can feed Prime Creator. As we feed Prime Creator through our schemes and our endeavors, we endow Prime Creator with greater energy to give to new creations.

    We have never gotten close to the entity Prime Creator. Even those of us who are beings of the grandest light vibration do not have the capacity at this stage of our evolution to be in proximity to Prime Creator. We are not prepared enough to handle the intensity of that emanation. It is our desire at some point in our evolution to get a glimpse of and perhaps merge with Prime Creator for a time. We know that this is possible, so it is something we strive for.

    The evolution of consciousness and the ability to house information is what allows one to come into the proximity of Prime Creator. Many people on Earth have felt that they have merged with God. They mayhave merged with a portion of Prime Creator that best suited their vibration at the time. The total vibration of Prime Creator would destroy the physical vehicle in an instant, because it cannot house that much information. Those that represent "God" to you are but a minute portion of Prime Creator.

    Even Prime Creator is but a portion of something larger. Prime Creator is always discovering that it is a child of another creation and that it is in a constant process of self-discovery and awareness. Remember, consciousness is within all things, and consciousness was never invented, it simply was. Consciousness is knowing, and your knowing is your closest place to Prime Creator. When you trust what you know, you are activating the God within you.

    At this time, there is a great awareness moving over the planet as to how big the world really is and as to who's who in the world ballgame: not only who's who in the world ballgame, but who's who in the cosmic ballgame.

    Just as you have hierarchies upon Earth that you may or may not be aware of, there are hierarchies in the cosmos. You can live within a certain area and not be aware that any hierarchy exists. You can farm your land, pay your taxes, decide not to vote, and simply be oblivious to any bureaucratic political structure. In somewhat the same way, Earth is oblivious to the bureaucratic political structure that operates in the universe.

    It is important for you to understand that bureaucracies or hierarchies exist, and that these organizations have different experiences of time than you do. Others do not live within the structure of time as you know it. What you call one year perhaps to others may be only one small portion of a day. If you can really begin to comprehend this, you can understand why this planet has seemingly been left to itself for the last few thousand years. Now-, activity is beginning to bubble and boil again from the skies, and you will be faced with inserting a vast amount of new knowledge into your paradigms and your belief systems. This plan et is in for a culture shock-a big surprise.

    You have come here at this time for a certain purpose: Those creator gods who rearranged the human species are returning. Some of them are already here. This planet has been visited over and over again, and many different forms of human being have been seeded here through a variety of experiments. There have been many influential factors that have created the course of history on Earth. There have been civilizations on this planet that have existed for millions of years that have come and gone and not left a trace. These civilizations, each and every one of them, were influenced by those you may term God.
    Your history has been influenced by a number of light beings whom you have termed God. In the Bible, many of these beings have been combined to represent one being, when they were not one being at all, but a combination of very powerful, extraterrestrial light-being energies. They were indeed awesome energies from our perspective, and it is easy to understand why they were glorified and worshiped.

    There is no literature on Earth that gives you a true picture of these beings. All of the gods came here to learn and to enhance their own development through working with creativity, consciousness, and energy. Some became very successful and mastered their own lessons, while some made quite devastating errors.

    Who were these gods from ancient times? They were beings who were able to move reality and to command the spirits of nature to bend to their will. Humans have traditionally called beings God who could do things that the human race could not do. These beings were passed down through the ancient cultures of may- societies, portrayed as winged creatures and balls of light. The world is permeated with hints, clues, and artifacts of who your gods have been. However, those wo wished to manipulate humans made up their owm stories to create a paradigm that would control you. You were told that these beings were truly gods, and you were taught to worship, obey, and adore them. This paradigm is now on the verge of making a gigantic shift. The truth is going to come forward, a truth that will completely change the way you view the world. Woe be to those wo are unwilling to look. The shock reverberations are going to move around the world.

    The creator gods who have been ruling this planet have the ability to become physical, though mostly they exist in other dimensions. They keep Earth in a certain vibrational frequency while they create emotional trauma to nourish themselves. There are some beings who honor life before everything else, and there are also beings who do not honor life and do not understand their connection to it.

    Consciousness feeds consciousness. It is hard for you to understand this concept because you feed yourself with food. The food for some beings is consciousness. All food contains consciousness at some point in its own development, whether you fry it, boil it, or pick it from the garden; you ingest it to keep yourself nourished. Your emotions are food for others. When you are controlled to bring about havoc and frenzy, you are creating a vibrational frequency that supports the existence of these others because that is how they are nourished.

    There are those who live off the vibration of love, and that group would like to reestablish the food of love on this planet. They would like to turn this universe into the frequency of love so that it can have the opportunity to go out and seed other worlds.

    You represent the renegade group of light, and you have agreed to come back on the planet. You are on assignment. You come into these physical bodies and take them over, and you intend, through the power of your spiritual identity, to change the physical body. You all selected with great care he genetic lines that would best give you head starts with all of this. Each of you chose a genetic history through which members of the Family of Light have threaded.

    When human beings existed in their rightful domain and could understand many realities, they had the ability to be multidimensional, to be one and equal with the gods. You are beginning to awaken this identity within yourself.
    The gods raided this reality. Just like corporate raiders in your time come in and take over a business because perhaps the pension funds are in great abundance, so the funds upon this planet were in great abundance at the time these raider gods appeared. In order to have you believe they were Gods with a big G, they rearranged you genetically.

    That is when the Family of Light was scattered from the planet, and the dark team, which operated out of ignorance, came in. Your bodies carry a fear and a memory of striving for the knowledge that those gods represented and took away from you. The gods who did this are magnificent space creatures. They can do many kinds of manipulations and work with realities in many different ways. Humans, in ignorance, began to call these space creatures God with a big G.

    God with a big G has never visited this planet as an entity. God with a big G is in all things. You have only dealt with gods with a little g who have wanted to be adored and to confuse you, and who have thought of Earth as a principality, a place that they own out in the galactic fringes of this free-will universe.

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    One last excerpt as food for thought for everyone tonight. Be discerning and read between the lines...

    In order to come to a planet, you must have a portal or way to get into it. You could fly into space, say to Jupiter, but if you never find the portal that allows you to enter the planet's time frame of existence, you could land on a place that looks desolate and without life. Portals allow you to enter the dimension of the planet where life exists. Portals open onto the corridors of time and serve as zones of multidimensional experience.

    There have been different portals on Earth that have allowed different species, creator gods from space, to insert themselves. One of the huge portals that presently is being fought over is the portal of the Middle East. If you think back over the history of Earth, you will recognize how many dramas of religion and civilization have been introduced in that portal. It's a huge portal-with a radius of a thousand miles or so. This is why there is so much activity in the Middle East. This is the portal that the Lizzies use.

    To some extent, the Lizzies have controlled this portal. They have used this area to create their underground bases and caverns, from which they operate. The ancient civilization of Mesopotamia, between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, was a space colony where a certain civilization was introduced. Kuwait sits at the mouth of this territory. This is a portal that involves manipulation of the human population to serve the needs of others.

    Within the Lizzie population, there are those who are benevolent and those who are malevolent. Why are we telling you all this? Why do you need to know it? You need to know it because the Lizzie reality is reentering and merging with your dimension. Part of your evolutionary leap in consciousness is not simply to go into love and light and eat ice cream sundaes every day. You must comprehend how complex reality is, how many different forms of reality there are, and how they are all you. You must make peace with them and merge with them to create an implosion of the collection of your soul. In this way, you can come back to Prime Creator.

    You are going to be faced with many opportunities to judge many things and label them as bad. But, when you judge and label, you will not experience and feel the new realities. Always remember that this is a free-will zone and that there is a Divine Plan, which is going to be the last plan, the last card to be played. You all must remember that this last card is going to be an ace.

    The nature of the drama on this planet is quite interesting. Whenever there is a frequency modulation of an existing system, there is a certain magnetism that moves out from that system. This magnetism draws every energy that was ever involved with that system back to the system so that it can be part of the evolution or process. You are magnetizing everything to yourself that you have ever experienced so that you can feel everything you need to feel about it.

    The creator gods of ancient times are being drawn back here at this time because of the Divine Plan. They must participate in it and understand that their frequencies are going to be changed. They are resisting this, just like many humans are resisting. Yet, they create their own realities. These creator gods of the last 300,000 years have forgotten who created them! They have forgotten their gods....

    ....You had best, all of you, give up your old definitions of Santa Claus. In the same way that you discovered the truth about the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, you are going to discover that there is a cover-up, a story, an idealized version around many of these energies that you have worshiped as gods.

    The predominant energy on this planet siphons your belief systems according to its own will. It directs incredible flows of energy outward, and this energy is alive. You have been told that all of your thoughts make a world: they are real-they go someplace. There are five and a half billion people thinking right now. That much energy is alive on Earth. What is the predominant feeling within that energy, and what can this energy be convinced or coerced to exhibit?

    We are not here to say who is right and who is wrong and who is who within the hierarchy. We simply want to bust your illusions, to pop your balloons about what you have been led to believe. We do not want to say that it is wrong; we simply want to suggest to you that you think bigger.

    Feel the noticeable loss that is going to occur within this predominant energy when more and more of you don't vibrate according to its plan. Think what you can do when you overcome the frequency modulation or the insistence of your logical mind and when, with impeccability, you stand clean as a Keeper of Frequency. Remember that identity as a frequency is the sum total of your physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual bodies broadcast as electromagnetic pulsations. Every time you begin to own what someone has been siphoning off and to cultivate it according to your own will, you change the vibration on the planet.

    As systems busters, this is one of the things that you are profoundly proficient in. We do not want to discredit or discount what you have used up until now as tools, we simply want you to outgrow your old tools. Some of your reverence and loyalty has been to belief systems that will no longer serve you, just as there will come a time when each of you will move beyond the steps that we are leading you through at this time. Another energy will be able to say, "Well, when the Pleiadians were showing you this, it was very good. They led you here and there. Let us take you further." There is no stopping the evolution, for there is nothing that has been given to the planet that represents the ultimate in truth.

    As you summon the story of your reptilian past, you will find that many of the influential characters in the patriarchal system of history have indeed been part of the reptile family. Just as all humans are not bad, it is the same with the reptilians. They are no less a part of Prime Creator than you are, and their visage and physiology is not one of lesser means. Master geneticists are capable of occupying many different forms. It is quite understood that part of the difficulty of working with an isolated species is the shock that can occur with the complete revelation of truth.

    There have been many other creator gods, only some of which have had human form. Presently, your greatest state of unrest or discomfort comes from beings of a reptilian type of existence because they seem the most foreign to you.

    It has been our intention to expand your ideas of who your gods are because those gods will be returning to Earth. That is why the planet is going through such great turmoil. As you learn to hold the frequencies coming from the creative cosmic rays, you will be prepared to meet these gods. As we have said, some of them are already here. They walk your streets and participate in your academies, your government,and your workplaces. They are here to observe, and they are here to direct energy. Some come for great assistance, and some are here to learn and evolve. Some do not have the highest of intentions.

    You must understand how to discern the extraterrestrial energies. This is a free-will universe, so all forms of life are allowed here. If an energy attempts to frighten you, manipulate you, or control you, it is not an energy that would be in your highest interest to work with. You have a choice of who you work with. Just because someone has evolved many fantastic and seemingly magic abilities does not necessarily mean that that entity is evolved spiritually. Learn to discern.

    You are living in a most important time when energy is coming alive. All you are feeling is the result of you coming alive and awakening to your hidden potentials. The wind is whipping around, showing you there are great stirrings in the air. The gods are here. You are these gods.

    As you awaken to your history, you will begin to open your ancient eyes. These are the eyes of Horus, which see not through the eyes of a human being but from the point of view of a god. They see the connectedness and purpose of all things, for the ancient eyes are able to see into many realities and to connect the whole picture, the whole history. When you open the ancient eyes within yourselves, you will not only be able to connect with your own whole personal history, you will be able to connect with the planetary history, the galactic history, and the universal history. Then, indeed, you will find out who your gods are.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    In light of the Horus-Ra connection originally presented by Houman in this thread, along with the input from Wynderer that B. Marcniak may have been working with the alien agenda, I found another passage that was a huge red flag for me. When you put the connections together, you begin to question the Pleiadians and their agenda as well.

    Creator gods take many forms, and they are not all Lizzies. There are creator gods who are insectlike. We Pleiadians are associated with the creator gods that are birdlike and reptilian. There were those who came from space and worked with the energy of the birds in many different cultures. If you look at the drawings of ancient cultures in Egypt, South America, and North America, you will see signs of the birds and reptiles. At one time, the birds and the reptiles worked together, and at other times they fought. As you comprehend more, the story will get larger. You will begin to remember your history.

    The creator gods are very connected to you. When you decide to become a parent, you agree to learn from your children, to be responsible for their welfare, and to teach them to become responsible for themselves. It is the same with the creator gods. Through watching you grow, they are learning about life; they are learning about what they create; they are learning how to be good parents, so to speak.
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    Houman and Wynderer,

    Thank you both for your input. I originally read Bringers of the Dawn and found some information useful, while parts that were not I just discarded.

    However, after much of the information Houman has presented, I am inclined to agree with both of your statements. I merely wanted to post these excerpts to generate discussion as to others' take on the material and their opinion of whether or not this information was suspect as well.

    I am re-examining a lot of the information I have delved into over the last six years with a "flashlight with fresh batteries" shining light on things that I have overlooked in the past.

    I am at the point where I feel like my life has been like the movie Inception. (Best analogy I can come up with at the moment)

    At first, I thought I was awakened...seeing life in a fresh view as I ripped away from the bonds of my strong, southern Catholic upbringing (to which I had no choice)...and I found the works of Project Camelot, David Wilcock, etc. to be very influential on this path.

    Then, things started to get very convoluted, and it was as if all these ideas were just "too 'good' to be true" and I slowly started to realize I wasn't "awake" but merely sleep-walking, perceiving to be awake.

    Then, after coming across this thread, my entire worldview was turned upside down. Thankfully, this caused me to realize I was still dreaming...dreaming of positive ET's taking down the Old World Order as I awaited the grand cavalry from the Heavens to come and save us. I do not feel ashamed in this admission, as I am certain many members of this forum, and the world at large have also been duped by the New Age arena of false hopes and lies packaged as "truth."

    Now, I have been awakened again (which is why I refer to Inception) and realize my original "awakening" was merely a dream within the dream of life.

    Although I feel as though 18 years of Catholic rearing and 6 years of New Age psychobabble has left me more confused than ever, I view the ultimate path I have walked with respect and appreciation, for my falls, scrapes, and bruises on the path of life have only toughened me up for the hard truths and reality, such as the material Houman has compiled, and I realize I am now ready to accept the dark side of the coin for what it is, instead of casting it out of my worldview, blinded by "positive only" thought-patterns that are critcized, for good reason, by James Bartley and others.

    I thank you all for continuing to bring this information forward, and I believe we will all benefit greatly from this, once we are able to let go of the lies and see the world for what it really is.

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    from https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8le5X__-M (do not watch)

    Sometimes the heart is removed very quickly
    while the victim is still alive
    and then devoured immediately by the child

    Then a small child is sewn inside the cavity
    of a disemboweled animal and "rebirthed"
    by her cultic captors in a grotesque ceremony

    Behold ye then god this great of slaughter,
    mighty of terror, he washeth in your blood,
    he batheth in your gore.

    =======

    from http://www.ritualabusefree.org/emsc%...0W%20INTRO.pdf

    The following passages from The Egyptian Book of The Dead are graphic and repulsive and are
    presented solely for the purpose of expose.

    “[1] DRINKING BLOOD
    "Hail, devourer of Blood, who camest forth from the block of slaughter, I have not acted guilefully".

    “[2] CANNABALISM- EATING INTESTINES
    Hail, Eater of intestines, coming forth from Mabet, not have I desolated ploughed lands.”

    “[3] TORTURE CHAMBER
    "Hail, thou two-headed serpent, who comest forth from the torture-chamber, I have not defiled the wife of any man."

    “[4] THE CRUSHER OF BONES
    Hail, Crusher of Bones, who comest forth from Suten-henen, "I have told no lies.."

    “[5] WASHING IN BLOOD
    Behold ye then god this great of slaughter, mighty of terror, he washeth in your blood, he batheth
    in your grave.”

    “[6] KILLING ANIMALS - LOCKS OF HAIR
    I have obtained the mastery over the animals with the knife in their heads and their locks of hair, who live among their emeralds, the aged and the shining beings who prepare the moment of Osiris Ani, triumphant in peace. He maketh slaughter upon the earth, and conversely, I am strong.”

    “[7] KING UNAS EATS HEARTS
    He has taken the hearts of the gods.
    He has eaten the Red,
    He has swallowed the Green
    Their charms are in his belly
    He has swallowed the knowledge of every god.
    The lifetime of King Unas is eternity;

    [8] KING UNAS IS A CANNIBAL FOND OF SCALPING PEOPLE AND BONDAGE
    UNAS devoureth men and liveth "upon the gods, he is the lord of envoys, whom he sendeth "forth on his missons. 'He who cutteth off hairy scalps,' "who dwelleth in the fields, tieth the gods with ropes;.."

    “[9] BONDAGE - MURDER - CANNABALISM - DISMEMBERMENT
    THE VICTIMS THROATS ARE CUT AND THE BODY PARTS ARE BOILED IN A
    CALDRON AT NIGHTTIME.
    Tcheser-tep keepeth guard over them for Unas and "driveth them unto him; and the Cord-master bound "them for slaughter. Khonsu the slayer of the wicked "cutteth their throats and draweth out their intestines, "for it is he whom Unas sendeth to slaughter; and Shesmu cutteth them in pieces and boileth their members in his "blazing caldrons of the night.."

    “[10] THE THIGHS OF THE FIRST BORN ARE HEAPED UP.
    The old gods "and the old goddesses become fuel for his furnace. The "mighty ones in heaven light the fire under the caldrons" where are heaped up the thighs of the firstborn;”

    “[11] THE RITUAL FIRE IS STARTED WITH THE THIGHS OF A WOMAN
    ..."UNAS lighteth the fire under the caldrons with the thighs "of their women;”

    “[12] HACKING IN PIECES THE FIRSTBORN
    Unas hath weighed his "words with the hidden god [?] who hath no name, on the day of hacking in pieces the firstborn.”

    “[13] UNAS EATS MAGICAL CHARMS
    Behold, Unas eateth of that which the red crown "sendeth forth, he increaseth, and the magical charms of the gods are in his belly;”
    The following quote is a comment on the texts about King Unas by the translator of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, E.A. Wallis Budge: “The notion that, by eating the flesh, or particularly by drinking the blood, of another living being, a man absorbs his nature or life into his own, is one which appears among primitive
    peoples in many forms
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    (continued from previous post)

    The following quote is a comment on the texts about King Unas by the translator of the Egyptian
    Book of the Dead, E.A. Wallis Budge:
    “The notion that, by eating the flesh, or particularly by drinking the blood, of another living
    being, a man absorbs his nature or life into his own, is one which appears among primitive
    peoples in many forms.”149
    It is indeed an accurate accessment that these murders in the Unas texts were performed in a ritual and
    religious manner for the purpose of obtaining the life-force or energy force of the victim. Not only
    was this the purpose of these ancient Egyptian texts, but it is also the purpose behind modern
    Satanism. This common underlying purpose can be seen by comparing these texts and their
    accessment with the words of Master Satanist Aleister Crowley. He writes:
    “The blood is the life. This simple statement is explained by the Hindus by saying that the
    blood is the principle vehicle of vital Prana....It was the theory of the ancient Magicians, that
    any living being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and
    health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental and moral character. At the death
    of the animal this energy is liberated suddenly. [For Magical purposes] The animal should
    therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy
    cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the
    ceremony...For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which
    contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high
    intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim... Those magicians who object to the
    use of blood have endeavoured to replace it with incense... But the bloody sacrifice, though
    more dangerous is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best.”150
    The following is a bizarre passage from the Egyptian book of the Dead, translated by Normandi Ellis
    of the University of Colorado. We will quote excerpts from this strange passage and will compare it
    in the next chapter with an actual Satanic ritual.
    “[14] A GOD BORN FROM THE BUTTOCKS OF A COW
    Every season of the flood I saw god born from the buttocks of a cow...."Come" said the lord
    of life to the lord of death one day. "Let us make a truce. I shall bring forth creatures and
    deliver them unto death, if you deliver the dead unto life..."On the day I saw Ra born from
    the buttocks of a cow I was overcome with weeping....These are the manifestations of Horus,
    a thousand souls in his train, an army marching against darkness. These are souls returning to
    earth, men and women beautified.........In the house of death there awaits a being of darkness
    whose eyebrows swim on his forehead like fishes....I shall not fall under flashing knives I
    shall not burn up in the cauldron.... I have seen the face of evil --- a face full of burns and
    scars, tortures inflicted upon the self. He would scald his own chest and blame it on others.
    He would slash his own wrists and blame it on the gods... Now is the day of the joining of
    opposites, of the mingling of the dust of flesh with the dust of the coffin. This is the day of
    flow, the living ether returned to air, the maker of forms assuming new form. This is the day
    without end --- the passage into light itself the joining of Osiris to Ra.”151
    That revolting passage was presented solely for the purpose of exposing and reproving the works of
    darkness, but it speaks of self-inflicted torture that is reminiscent of Satanic Ritual Abuse Victims who
    are programmed to inflict harm upon themselves.
    This ritual which came from the Egyptians is being widely used by generational Satanists. We
    have recently had confirmation from a Satanic ritual abuse survivor on the West Coast that she
    endured an identical ritual. The cow was a symbol of great importance for the Egyptian sexual rites,
    to them the cow represented the passive sexual energy. The following information is from A History
    of Phallic Worship by Richard Payne Knight:
    Among the Egyptians, as before observed, the cow was the symbol of Venus, the godess of love,
    and passive generative power of nature. On the capitals of one of the temples of Philae we still
    find the heads of this goddess represented of a mixed form; the horns and ears of the cow being
    joined to the beautiful features of a woman in the prime of life; such as the Greeks attributed to
    that Venus, whom they worshipped as the mother of the prolific god of love, Cupid, who was the
    personification of animal desire or concupiscence, as the Orphic love, the father of gods and men,
    was of universal attraction. The Greeks, who represented the mother under the form of a
    beautiful woman, naturally represented the son under the form of a beautiful boy; but a people
    who represented the mother under the form of a cow, would as naturally represent the son under
    the form of a calf.152
    [15] BOAT RITUAL
    “These illustrations from Albert Champdor's "The Book of the Dead" show a mummy with
    phallus erect sliding into the Seventh Region of the Lower World, described as being "filled
    with serpents coils and four sons of Horus who protect the viscera of the Dead."153 (See
    Illustration below)
    Satanic ritual abuse victims have frequently reported being put in a boat with snakes.
    More from The Book of the Dead:
    “[16] THE EATING OF DEAD BODIES
    O Ra-Tmu, Lord of the Great House, prince, life, strength and health of all the gods, deliver
    thou [me] from the god whose face is like unto that of a dog, whose brows are as those of a
    man, and who feedeth upon the dead, who watcheth at the Bight of the Fiery Lake, and who
    devoureth the bodies of the dead and swalloweth hearts, and who shooteth forth filth, but he
    himself remaineth unseen.”155
    “[17] RITUAL SLAUGHTER OF AN ANIMAL
    Illustration below (Fig. 3, f.# 156) Shows the passing down of body parts and pitchers of blood?
    [18] THE HEART IN THE JAR
    The heart is placed in a jar to be weighed for judgement.
    The double Maat goddesses are at times represented standing beside the balance to watch the
    result of the weighing, and at the same time Maat is also placed in the scale to be weighed
    against the heart of the deceased (Fig. 1)”157
    “..In the papyrus of Qenna the head of Aunbis is on the beam and the ape, wearing disk and
    crescent, is seated upon a pylon-shaped pedistal beside the balance. (Fig.2)”158
    “Another vignitte shows horus holding Maat in his hand, weighing the heart in the presence
    of the Maat goddesses, and anubis, holding the deceased by the hand, presents the heart to
    Osiris while Isis and Nephthys in the form of apes sit near (Fig. 3)”159
    SEXUAL PERVERSION
    It is Osiris. Others, however, say that his name is Ra, and that the god who dwelleth in Amentet is the
    phallus of Ra, wherewith he had union with himself.
    “[20] EXCREMENT
    Who is this? "It is Osiris. Others however, say that it is the dead body of Osiris, and yet
    others say that it is the excrement of Osiris.”160
    “[21] SELF-MUTILATION AND PERVERSION
    Who are these gods? They are the drops of blood which came forth from the phallus of Ra
    when he went to perform his own mutilation. These drops of blood sprang into being under
    the forms of the gods Hu and Sa, who are in the bodygard of Ra, and who accompany the
    god Tem daily and every day.”161
    [22] CHAMBER OF SNAKES
    Manly P. Hall 33º Mason, describes a ritual in the second degree of the Egyptian Mysteries that we
    will show to be very similar to modern Satanic rituals.
    “The chamber appeared to be filled with reptiles, to teach the Necoris to withstand bodily
    terror. The greater the courage shewn on this trial, so much the more was he lauded after
    reception.”162
    “[23] THE SCARAB
    It was believed that the Scarab, if placed in the heart of the deceased, will perform the
    opening of the mouth so that the deceased may speak words of power or the innermost
    intentions of his soul.”163
    The scarabs which are found in the mummies, or lying upon the breast just above the
    position of the heart, form an interesting section of every large Egyptian collection.
    “SCARAB: A design based on the dung beetle, this is the ancient Egyptian symbol of
    reincarnation. It also is associated with Beelzebub, Lord of the Flies.”164
    “[24] THE ANKH
    ANKH: This is an Egyptian symbol of life and often is associated with fertility.”165
    [25] EGYPTIAN SEX MAGIC
    Sexual magic practices that are used by modern occult groups were perfected to fine art by the ancient
    Egyptian magicians. The following example of a spell to seduce a married woman is from Ancient
    Egyptian Magic by Bob Brier.
    “Spell to Seduce a Married Woman. Unas cohabits with his phallus,
    Unas is the lord of seed, he who takes the women from their husbands.
    whenever Unas wants, according to the wish of his heart. Pyramid Texts, Spell 510”166
    MIN
    This picture of the Egyptian sex god Min is from Coming into the Light, Rituals of Egyptian Magick
    by Gerald and Betty Schueler.
    “Another formula of Sex Magick used by the ancient Egyptians was for purposes of
    enhancing fertility and fecundity were embodied in the god Amsu, whose name is literally
    "the formula of fertility." Amsu, or Min, was also called Menu (not to be confused with the
    god Menthu, the warrior Lord of Thebes), and was always depicted in iphyphallic form.
    Menu vecame the greek god Pan, whose sexual exploits are legendary. An appropriate
    prayer should be addressed to Amsu--Menu before sex to assure a son or daughter.”167
    As was explained in this quote the Egytian god Min or Menu is the same as the Greek god Pan. The
    picture to the right of 'THE GREAT GOD PAN' is from the book, The Secret Teachings of All Ages,
    by 'Masonry's Greatest Philosopher' - 33 Manly P. Hall. The explanation under the picture in Hall's
    book makes it clear that he was aware that Pan was a phallic diety. Hall also alludes to a saying from
    the early church "Great Pan is dead".
    The words under the picture say:
    “...Pan is the prototype of natural energy, and while undoubtedly a phallic deity, should not
    be confused with Priapus. The pipes of Pan signify the natural harmony of the spheres, and
    the god himself is a symbol of Saturn because this planet is enthroned in Capricorn, whose
    emblem is a goat. The Egyptians were initiated into the Mysteries of Pan, who was regarded
    as a phase of Jupiter, the Demiurgus...The Christians fabricated a story to the effect that at
    the time of the birth of Christ the oracles were silenced after giving utterance to one last cry,
    "Great pan is dead!"168
    Later in the same book Hall makes it clear where his sentements lie and those of Freemasonry when
    he makes this preposterous statement.
    “The ancient Mysteries did not cease to exist when Christianity became the world's most
    powerful religion. Great Pan did not die! Freemasonry is the proof of his survival.”169
    “[26] THE GOAT OF MENDES
    The Satanic practice of using a goat for sexual purposes during a ritual also comes from
    Egypt. The goat of Medes or Baphomet is the most famous of all Satanic symbols. The
    Satanic goat takes its name from a city in Egypt where the goat was used publicly in a public
    ritual. This information is from a book called A History of Phallic Worship. The Egyptians
    showed this incarnation of the Deity by a less permanent, though equally expressive symbol.
    At Mendes a living goat was kept as the image of the generative power, to whom the women
    presented themselves naked, and had the honour of being publicly enjoyed by him.
    Herodotus saw the act openly performed, and calls it a prodigy. But the Egyptians had no
    such horror of it; for it was to them a representation of the incarnation of the Deity, and the
    communication of his creative spirit to man.”170
    The illustration on the left is the most widely used of all Satanic symbols, The Goat of Mendes or the
    Baphomet as it was drawn by Freemason Eliphas Levi. On page 20 of this book, there is a picture of a
    goat with the other pagan gods that was taken from The History of Freemasonry published by the
    Masonic History Company and they admit that the goat is indeed The Goat of Mendes.
    Figure 17 is a representation of a four-horned goat, which is said to be from Spain, with two upright
    and two lateral horns. This animal was alive in London about 1769. It is a symbol of the goat of
    Mendes.
    [27] THE SYMBOLIC CRUCIFIXION
    The symbolic crucifixion in the next picture is occuring in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid
    and is taken from the book, The Phoenix, by 33º Mason Manly P. Hall. A Satanic ritual abuse
    survivor from Dearborn County, Indiana, confirmed that he was hung on a wooden cross in a similar
    ritual.
    The most dangerous piece of information about THE BOOK OF THE DEAD is that it contained
    rituals that were performed in secret by people that were wearing masks.
    Manly P. Hall 33º Mason writes:
    “Professor Breasted, the most distinguished Egyptologist, told me that he was convinced that
    this book contained the ritual of a sacred drama performed by the living in the secrecy of the
    ancient temples. He justified his remarks by saying that he had personally examined the
    manuscripts of this work which had been marginated with prompter's marks and notes
    indicating entrances and exits. The ritual was evidently part of the primitive mask cult.
    When a priest, or even a consecrated layman, put on the mask or likeness of one of the gods,
    he became identical with that god.”174
    Can old writings thousands of years old give us clues to who is behind ritual satanic child abuse? If
    no further explanation were given, these hideous passages would reveal themselves as blatantly
    Satanic. The comparison that we will now make with the pictures that were drawn by the survivors of
    Satanic Ritual Abuse will show conclusively that someone is practicing Satanism with a distinctive
    Egyptian twist. The similarities that we have drawn between Freemasonry and the ancient Egyptian
    religion are far too intricate to be dismissed as a mere coincidence. The magic word of Egyptian
    Magic though it is not now known was known to be a three syllable word which once again gives us
    an amazing similarity to the secret word of the third degree of Freemasonry, MA-HAH-BONE.
    “From Ancient Egyptian Magic: The story specifies that the word had three syllables, but
    does not give the word.”175
    We will close this chapter with a few more words of praise for The Egyptian Book of the Dead from
    an extremely popular Masonic book, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry:
    “The Book of the Dead is a treasure house of Masonic lore to those who can realize that the
    ancient work has a significant meaning throughout, and were it available in a complete form,
    would render the whole subject of philosophy considerably more lucid.”176
    “Thus, from the crude fragments left to us of ancient Egyptian manuscripts, and their
    commentaries, we receive a great inspiration, an enobling realization of our one purpose.
    We are promised that if we serve faithfully and consecrate ourselves to the purpose for
    which the Mystery Schools came into existence, the Word will ultimately be returned and
    with it will come the full understanding of that deep and sublime mystery of philosophy as
    the rational substitute for death.”177

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    CHAPTER 7
    SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE
    This chapter is being contributed by Rick Doninger
    He and his wife have been child advocates for eight years and are currently involved with helping
    children who are survivors of satanic ritual abuse as well as all other forms of abuse and molestation.
    Mr. Doninger has first-hand experience in dealing with the survivors of the horrors that the children of
    our nation are experiencing after being subjected to satanic ritual abuse Our goal in providing this
    information to you is to help increase your awareness of what these children have suffered so that you
    will have compassion for them, believe their disclosures and encourage the authorities who are
    responsible for punishing the perpetrators to provide justice for the victims and their families We also
    pray that you will join with us in this spiritual battle by praying for the survivors and their families
    We ask that you pray for protection for all the men and women of our nation who are actively
    involved in this struggle for justice for the survivors.
    In this chapter passages selected from the Egyptian rites in The Book of the Dead will be compared
    with the explanations of drawings of survivors of satanic ritual abuse.
    The drawings at the end of this chapter will be indicated by Mr. Doninger as #1,# 2,# 3, etc..
    Please refer back to CHAPTER 6 for further explanation about their connection to Egyptian Satanism
    if necessary;
    RITUAL ABUSE: by definition is:
    “repeated physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual assaults combined with a systematized
    use of symbols, ceremonies and machinations designed and orchestrated to attain malevolent
    effects. The abuse may be repeated 100-1000 times.”178
    This will probably be the most disturbing chapter you will read in this book. This chapter is meant to
    be a comparison between the ancient rites of Egyptology (the Mysteries) and the rites of modern day
    Satanism as described and illustrated by the victims of the most heinous crime brought to the public's
    attention in the history of our country: ritual child Abuse. Although the evidence that is needed to
    prosecute such crimes against children is by far the most difficult to obtain, the growing number of
    reports of this nature demand that we as a society take a very serious look at what these victims are
    saying.
    The recent allegations of ritualistic abuse of children is not limited to this country. Reports are
    beginning to surface in England, Canada, France and Italy. All of the countries mentioned have also
    noticed a virtual explosion of interest in the areas of witchcraft and the occult.
    Although the fascination with the supernatural covers too many areas to mention, the one
    most frequently referred to by victims of ritual abuse is satanism. Our knowledge of satanic ritual
    abuse is still very limited, as the reports of this crime have only begun to gain attention over the last
    decade.
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    Law Enforcement personnel and professionals in the areas of identification, intervention, and
    treatment of abuse victims are painstakingly trying to piece together the information supplied by
    survivors of ritualistic abuse in order to meet the urgent need for expertise in this growing field of
    occult crimes.
    Primarily as a society we are not at all prepared to wage war with an enemy we've seen very little
    of. Although evidence of its presence is seen in the eyes of its victims and felt after hearing their
    disclosures, there are some very definite obstacles to overcome before we can even begin to arm
    ourselves with the weapons to fight this hidden foe. Disbelief from those who are supposed to be
    involved in intervention for such victims is one of the biggest hindrances to those who have become
    aware of the ritual abuse problem and have committed themselves to offering assistance to those
    victims. In 1991, in the United States of America, many in law enforcement, child welfare, and the
    judicial process simply refuse to accept that there are elements of our society who are committed to
    the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual destruction of our children.
    Fear is another factor which prohibits those who are approached for assistance from getting involved
    in such a controversial issue. This 'fear element' is probably the single most effective weapon the
    perpetrators of ritual abuse use to continue their activities undetected. Professionals often fear the loss
    of credibility at the mention of terms such as Satanism or Devil Worship. Much of the fear generated
    when this issue is raised results from a lack of knowledge and understanding of occult crimes and,
    more specifically, the ritualistic abuse of our most precious gift from God and sacred
    responsibility--our children.
    In this chapter we are going to try to counter some of this fear by sharing some of the information
    gathered from interviews with the survivors of these horrible crimes. In this comparative look at the
    specific rituals described in the previous chapter, alongside the disclosures and illustrations drawn by
    child victims of ritual abuse, we hope to better arm you - the reader - with understanding necessary to
    face this nation's darkest secret. This information, though shocking and heartbreaking, will hopefully
    open some eyes to the fact that man is capable (and has been capable) for centuries of such atrocities
    as human sacrifice and cannibalism in hopes of appeasing a god of darkness. The same god of
    darkness and deception who cloaks himself today in the secrecy of symbolism and ceremony is found
    in the occultic nature of secret societies that have been around for centuries. As stated in chapter one,
    we will also be putting forth a theory that much of today's ritual satanic child abuse could stem from
    secret societies who are using Masonic and Egyptian rituals. Such pseudo-masonic cults have been
    around for a long time and have a history of advocating violence.
    We will now begin to compare the Egyptian rituals with pictures drawn by victim-survivors and their
    testimonies.
    [1] DRINKING BLOOD - SLAUGHTER BLOCK
    Hail, devourer of blood, who camest forth from the block of slaughter, I have not acted guilefully.
    The drinking of blood, either human or animal is consistently part of the ritual abuse survivors
    disclosures (Pictures #1,3,5,8,9, and 10). According to the victims, the Satanists believe that the life
    force of the sacrificial victim is in theblood. Partaking of the blood is believed to empower and add
    longevity of life. Child victims have related accounts of how the cult members would always drain
    and save the blood of their victims in apple juice jars, pans, bottles, and pots. The very young children
    are sometimes introduced to the taste of blood gradually by mixing it with milk, formula, punch, and
    other beverages. Eventually, with increases in blood content in these drinks, the child victim will be
    able to drink the blood without dilution. Pictures #9,12,16,20, and 23 show body parts removed to be
    used in a ritual, including the drinking of blood. Picture #10 illustrates 'blood punch' made from the
    blood of a sacrificed child. The child victim titled this picture "Birthday Colt [Cult] Celebration".
    The trauma to child victims, resulting from this type of forced participation in satanic rituals such as
    these is immeasurable. The State of Idaho, as a result of legislative efforts in 1990, has a Legislative
    Act relating to ritualized abuse of a child (House of Representatives Bill No.817)-Centennial
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    Legislature second regular session 1990. Chapter 15, Title 18 Idaho Code-New Section-18-1506 A
    Idaho Code.) (Idaho Code-Chapter 50 Title 18, New Section 18-5003. Def. Cannibalism)
    In pictures #1,3,8,10, and 17, ingestion of blood is shown as a major part of the rituals. In picture
    #1 a young girl describes how during her grooming to be a Priestess in a satanic coven, she was forced
    to kill the sacrificial victim (a woman) without the aid of the adult members. Three priests in the cult
    stand, with glasses in hand, waiting for the child to cut the victim. When the blood would begin to
    flow, it was drained into each of the three glasses. The child was then placed in a suspended cage and
    made to observe the victim being crucified upside down on a cross and burned. Then the child was
    forced to drink the blood offered by the priests and was then placed on a table and tortured sexually by
    all the members as a reward.
    In picture #8, the child describes how blood was drank from the skull of a sacrificial victim (a
    man?). This picture also represents the child and an adult nude, with blood smeared over their bodies
    in preparation for a ritual that also includes the drinking of blood.
    Picture #4 illustrates the members of the cult getting ready to use the ritual stick and carving with
    the knife to draw more blood. These rituals are damaging to the physical health and mental stability
    of the victims.
    [2] CANNABALISM - EATING INTESTINES
    Hail, eater of intestines, coming forth from Mabet, not have I desolated ploughed lands.
    Cannibalism (Pictures #6,10,11,12,17, and 20) is the practice of eating the flesh of one's own
    kind. In our experience with the victims of ritual abuse, this aspect of the abuse is certainly one of
    the most traumatic of all. One of the best pictures depicting this is #11. To the average American
    citizen, the thought of cannibalism is a foreign concept; something you hear about happening in
    the deepest, darkest regions of Africa or South America. We just cannot accept the possibility of
    such an atrocious act in a "civilized nation". In 1989 in Matamoros, Mexico, a cult was
    discovered operating a drug trafficking business. When the Mexican authorities searched the
    compound of the cult, human remains were found in boiling pots. In the last few years children
    all over America are telling authorities about these sorts of practices at "meetings"
    where the people pray to the devil. When children disclose cannibalism their attitudes and behavior
    vary from regression, to aggressiveness, to horrified. Then there are those who can speak very plainly
    and recall the mutilation and devouring of both babies and adults with no emotion at all. In an
    interview with an eight year-old girl I was told how her dad had been teaching her to skin babies in the
    garage. When I asked what they did with the babies after they were skinned, this angelic looking
    child answered almost mockingly, "They ate them?". I was shocked! She said "Yes Rick, they ate
    them. There's people like that. They think it gives them power". That child will never know the
    impact she had on my life. Out of the mouth of this child came testimony of the ultimate evil! Forced
    ingestion of flesh of her own kind. Cannibalism, right here in the U.S.A. I cried sporadically the next
    several days at the memory of that child's disclosure. I didn't want to believe it, but I knew in my
    heart it had to be true. Later, I learned that children from all over the U. S. and several foreign
    countries were giving very detailed accounts of ritual murders and cannibalism.
    Pictures #6,9,10,11,12,17,20 and 34 depict rituals involving cannibalism. This survivor titled
    picture #12 "eating organs". It shows eighteen coven members around a table upon which a human
    sacrifice is offered to Satan. The intestines are exposed on the body. On the wall are two pieces of
    entrail to be eaten and, on a small table, the instruments used to remove these parts from the body.
    Present at this ritual were six red-robed priests. Our survivor was not sure why so many of high
    position were present, but said the eating of the intestines provided some special power.
    Picture #6 shows six members of this satanic group kneeling in prayer, giving thanks to Satan for
    the baby which is about to be offered as sacrifice.
    Picture #36 illustrates how the child was hung by a nail through the head, entrails removed, and
    then roasted on a spit over an open fire. Our survivor said, "You throw up the first few times you eat
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    it, but you eventually get used to it." The damage done to a child's mental, emotional, and spiritual
    health as a result of this type of victimization, is long lasting and results in the child suffering from
    post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), such as is found in war veterans. Although disbelief is
    provoked by the children's testimonies of the atrocities, the detail and similarity from such a large
    number of unrelated children from different geographical areas demands credibility be given to their
    stories.
    [3] TORTURE CHAMBER
    (21)Hail, thou two-headed serpent, who comest forth from the torture-chamber, I have not defiled the
    wife of any man.
    The police detective and his female assistant tried to maintain their composure as the nine year-old
    victim described the horrors that she had witnessed in the basement torture chamber of her
    grandmother's house. She described how tables were made with chains attached to hold the victims
    down on the table; how the victims heads are shaved, and three foot long "sticks" placed in the
    rectums of the victims on the tables. It was all the South Georgia policeman could do to keep from
    showing the disgust and anger at the perpetrators who had forced this beautiful, red-haired, freckled
    child to participate in horrors that tested the experienced child abuse investigator's imagination.
    Pictures #12,13,15, and 18, drawn by a male and female survivor in Indiana, depicts victims
    restrained on tables and mutilated in different ways.
    Pictures #18 and 21 show how the victim is sometimes branded on the chest with a five-pointed
    star symbol This illustration is titled "Baby being branded by the demons".
    The children tell of how the eyes, ears, brains, hearts, hands, and feet are usually removed. The
    Satanists believe the longer and more prolonged the death, the more power they absorb from the
    victims. Skinning the victims alive, we are told, is also a preferred form of torture The children are
    always forced to participate in this torture which serves a two-fold purpose: First, it ensures silence of
    the children by implicating them in the crime and, secondly, it desensitizes the child to future
    participation in these ritualistic activities.
    [4] THE CRUSHER OF BONES
    Hail, Crusher of Bones, who comest forth from Suten-henen, "I have told no lies.."
    In pictures #9,16, and 23, the children's illustrations show the removal of bones. The children tell
    how some of the bones are kept, dried and crushed into powder. They are then used to make clay
    from which ritual paraphernalia is made. Things such as plates, cups, and bone china dolls are
    sculpted from this bone clay. These items are then sold and traded among other cult members. This
    also answers some investigators' questions about why evidence of ritual murder is seldom found. The
    children say virtually all body parts are utilized for some purpose and what isn't eaten or kept is
    burned leaving no traces to be found by authorities.
    [5] WASHING IN BLOOD
    Behold ye then god this great of slaughter, mighty of terror, he washeth in your blood, he batheth in
    your gore.
    Picture #17 illustrates bathing in a tub filled with blood at what the child called a "Blood Moon"
    ritual. These rituals, according to the survivors, take place on nights when the moon appears red in the
    sky. The cult pictured consisted of people in Southern Indiana.
    [6] KILLING ANIMALS - LOCKS OF HAIR
    I have obtained the mastery over the animals with the knife in their heads and their locks of hair, who
    live among their emeralds, the aged and the shining beings who prepare the moment of Osiris Ani,
    triumphant in peace. He maketh slaughter upon the earth, and conversely, I am strong.
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    The children we have interviewed have all given accounts of animal sacrifice The stories
    involving animals have ranged from rats and other small animals, to cows. We are not sure of the
    specific meaning for the use of different kinds of animals: the children say that those who do this will
    use anything for the shedding of blood; dogs, cats, squirrels, mice, or deer.
    Picture #14, drawn by a nine-year-old, shows a rat being killed. This child was allegedly taken
    from her school to an old church where a satanic ritual was being held. She said those adults involved
    were personnel from her school.
    Pictures #26 and 37 depict the killing of a goat which was then beheaded. The head was then
    mounted on the wall and the members prayed to Satan asking him to possess the goat head and speak
    through it. According to our survivor she was then placed inside the carcass of the dead goat and the
    cult members sodomized it and her once again while she was inside.
    [7] KING UNAS EATS HEARTS
    He has taken the hearts of the gods.
    He has eaten the Red,
    He has swallowed the Green
    Their charms are in his belly
    He has swallowed the knowledge of every god.
    the lifetime of King Unas is eternity.
    Survivors of satanic ritual abuse involving human and animal sacrifice always tell of eating the
    hearts of the sacrificial victims They tell us the heart is the most powerful part of the body to be eaten
    and all of the victims life energy is contained within the heart. Sometimes the heart is removed very
    quickly while the victim is still alive and then devoured immediately by the group. Picture #19 drawn
    by a nine-year-old girl illustrates hearts of children kept in jars and the children's names recorded on
    the jars. In Picture #20 the cabinet the child says the hearts were kept in also had a knife, a pan that
    blood was collected in, and books that held written accounts of all that was done to the ritual abuse
    victims. The children say that the cult has members designated to do this. These record keepers are
    known as scribes with the cult.
    [8] KING UNAS IS A CANNIBAL FOND OF SCALPING PEOPLE AND BONDAGE
    509. UNAS devoureth men and liveth "upon the gods, he is the lord of envoys, whom he sendeth forth
    on his missons. 'He who cutteth off hairy scalps,' "who dwelleth in the fields, tieth the gods with
    ropes;
    Pictures #6,8,9,18, and 19 are all depictions of cannibalism, #15,18,22 bondage, and #21, scalping.
    These are aspects of modern day Satanism which are routinely described by victims of ritual abuse.
    Picture #21 shows the skin being peeled from the skull of a baby. Skinning people alive is a
    common practice among cults involved in human sacrifice. As in this same illustration the inverted
    pentagram is sometimes carved upon the abdomen of the victim.
    Picture #22 is what the survivor calls the "dirt offering". The victim is tied down on a bed of
    spikes. Then the child participant is forced to push the victim down onto the deadly points. Once
    again this forced participation in ritual murder is devastating to the child. The mental and emotional
    scars resulting from this lasts a lifetime. Survivor guilt is common among these children.
    [9] BONDAGE, MURDER, CANNIBALISM, DISMEMBERMENT, THE VICTIMS THROATS
    ARE CUT AND THE BODY PARTS ARE BOILED IN A CALDRON AT NIGHTTIME
    510. Tcheser-tep keepeth guard over them for Unas and driveth them unto him; and the Cord-master
    bound them for slaughter. Khonsu the slayer of thewicked cutteth their throats.....and draweth out their
    intestines, for it is he whom Unas sendeth to slaughter; and Shesmu cutteth them in pieces and boileth
    their members in his blazing caldrons of the night.
    Picture #11 is the most graphic of illustrations done by any of the survivors we have interviewed.
    This picture is entitled "carving for our feast." It tells the story of an eight-year-old girl being forced to
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    butcher the sacrificial victim into small enough pieces to be packaged for storage for a cannibalism
    ritual. Sometimes the victims' body parts were cooked in pots as a stew; sometimes the cult just
    devoured the flesh raw. The child who drew this illustration suffers from Multiple Personality
    Disorder as a result of the forced participation. M.P.D. is common among child ritual abuse victims.
    [10] THE THIGHS OF THE FIRST BORN ARE HEAPED UP
    The old gods and the old goddesses become fuel for his furnace. The mighty ones in heaven light the
    fire under the caldrons: where are heaped up the thighs of the firstborn;
    [11] THE RITUAL FIRE IS STARTED WITH THE THIGHS OF A WOMAN
    Picture #23 drawn by a little girl from a generational Satanist family from south Georgia, shows
    the thighs of a woman lying next to a firepit.
    [12] HACKING IN PIECES THE FIRSTBORN
    [508] Unas hath weighed his "words with the hidden god [?] who hath no name, on the day of hacking
    in pieces the firstborn.
    Picture #24 is a very simple illustration of the offering of the firstborn. The survivor tells us she
    was given the special privilege of being allowed to carry this sacrificial offering to the stone altar
    where it was then hacked to pieces. This particular ritual is shown as having been done during a full
    moon. Our survivor tells us that most of the sacrifices take place when the moon is full.
    [13] UNAS EATS MAGICAL CHARMS
    Behold, Unas eateth of that which the red drown sendeth forth, he increaseth, and the magical charms
    of the gods are in his belly;
    Although it is still unclear exactly what is meant by "magical charms", one survivor tells us that it
    may be the different entrails of the sacrificial victim, as each part (heart, liver, testicles, etc.) are
    believed to contain mystical powers and those who consume those parts become endowed with such
    powers.
    [14] A GOD BORN FROM THE BUTTOCKS OF A COW
    Every season of the flood I saw god born from the buttocks of a cow..."
    Picture #29 was one of the most bizarre disclosures of the many we've heard involving Satanism
    and ritualistic abuse. This disclosure came from one of the alter personalities of a survivor. When
    asked where she was at the time of this ritual, she said, " I was watching from up on top of the light.
    I'm little enough to sit up there, you know." She recalled this ritual as a birthingceremony whereby a
    full-term infant was taken from the mother by cutting open the belly. Then the newborn was placed
    inside the stomach of a drugged cow After sewing the child inside and performing the required
    incantations the infant is removed, symbolizing being born into the family of Satan. Actual
    performance of these appalling rituals are beyond the comprehension of most modern minds, yet
    children from all over America are giving corroborative testimony to these ungodly crimes.
    [15] BOAT RITUAL
    These illustrations from Albert Champdor's "The Book of the Dead" shows a mummy, with phallus
    erect sliding into the Seventh Region of the Lower World, described as being "filled with serpents'
    coils and four sons of Horus who protect the viscera of the Dead."
    In Picture #27, a 19-year-old ritual abuse survivor depicts herself being made to lay in a boat
    floating in shallow water. The boat is surrounded by six cult members, six burning red candles, with
    six snakes placed in the boat to crawl on her She says she was not allowed to move even one muscle
    or be punished for her disobedience. She said this was a part of a ritual performed to cleanse her of
    sins against Satan, which consisted of acts of kindness, or belief in God. She titles this picture "the
    snakes will cleanse forever life." One can only imagine the horror experienced by a small child while
    enduring this type of abuse.
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    Many times the various tortures and acts of violence perpetrated upon these children are specifically
    designed to cause the child victim to suffer a split personality. This Multiple Personality Disorder
    (MPD) aids the perpetrators in cases where this type of abuse is discovered by authorities. M. P. D.
    destroys the credibility of a child witness in a court of law. The trauma, resulting from ritual abuse, is
    something the perpetrators rely on to avoid prosecution.
    [16] THE EATING OF DEAD BODIES
    Ra-Tmu, Lord of the Great House, prince, life, strength and health of all the gods, deliver thou [me]
    from the god whose face is like unto that of a dog, whose brows are as those of a man, and who
    feedeth upon the dead, who watcheth at the Bight of the firey Lake, and who devoureth the bodies of
    the dead and swalloweth hearts, and who shooteth forth filth, but he himself remaineth unseen.
    This ritual has already been discussed in the section on CANNABALISM on page 78. However,
    there is a reference made to "face is like unto that of a dog", which could possibly be similar to one of
    the masks the survivors tell about that are sometimes worn during the rituals.
    [17] RITUAL SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS
    The illustration on page 57 shows the passing down of body parts and pitchers of blood?
    The survivors show things similar to this in Pictures #29, and 37.
    [18] HEARTS IN A JAR
    The heart is placed in a jar to be weighed for judgment.
    The young children who tell of these sordid rituals do not know why many of these ceremonies are
    performed, but those adults who commit these atrocious acts are well aware that the motivation is to
    satisfy their god of darkness. In the previous chapter, the weighing of hearts in jars for judgment are
    Egyptian in origin.
    In Pictures #19 and 20, the survivors show the hearts in the jars also. How many satanic cults
    actually use the Egyptian Book of the Dead as a guide for their bloody worship is unknown, but the
    similarities in specific aspects of the ritual leaves no doubt that it is more than a coincidence.
    As we near the year 2000 A.D., we must remember the children who have been ritualistically abused
    are human beings who have been attacked by an enemy and taken prisoner. They have suffered
    wounds that they may or may not survive. They have suffered assaults upon their spirit that are
    intended to corrupt their innocence. Evil, pain, and fear have been forced upon them repeatedly until
    the child prays to die but, at the same instant, anger, violence and hate are kindled. If the child is
    fortunate enough to find someone who believes them they have a chance to be helped. It takes much
    love, earning their trust, making the child (or adult) feel safe, a strong stomach, and belief in the
    power of God to heal and deliver the survivor from the powerful clutches of Satan. When there is no
    intervention, you have a child (or adult) who has had to experience more than the soldiers of most of
    the conventional wars, some of whom act out their frustrations on school-mates or members of their
    families. It is no wonder that some of these victims experience learning difficulties and attention
    problems in school, problems holding down a job or, just relating to people in general.
    Trauma suffered as a result of physical and sexual abuse at a very young age leaves scars that,
    more often than not, never go away. When this abuse is combined with assaults on the victims'
    emotions and spirit, in such a way as to implant evil, not only is the child traumatized, but - without
    intervention, the child will be desensitized to horrors such as cannibalism, murder, bestiality, animal
    mutilation, and sexual perversion beyond our imagination. Some of these children will grow up to be
    murderers, rapists and child molesters. This is the goal of those involved in ritual abuse; to totally
    corrupt the child in every way. Satanists have a goal to breed an entire generation of youth,
    indoctrinated in evil.
    [19] SEXUAL PERVERSION
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    It is Osiris. Others, however, say that his name is Ra, and that the god who dwelleth in Amentet is the
    phallus of Ra, wherewith he had union with himself.
    Pictures #28,31, and 37 are graphic examples of sexual perversion. When one tries to imagine the
    trauma associated with either of these pictures, the heart is - or should be - gripped with compassion
    for the victim of ritual abuse. In Picture #28 (the lower half), the child illustrates how a sacrificial
    victim was laid on a table, whereupon his genitals were cut off. This was done while he was alive!
    After removal of the penis, a stick was inserted into the amputated organ. The emotional and physical
    shock to the child victim because of the use of this tool of perversion is beyond description. She was
    first made to taste the blood from where the genitals were removed, then made to lie down and suffer
    molestation and torture with the tool made fromthe amputated penis. Finally, she was placed in a cage
    suspended from a tree to watch while the cult members finished the mutilation (Picture #2). The
    lower part of #28 shows the tool from the amputated penis. Picture #31 shows a wand, or ritual stick,
    used in the sexual torture.
    Sexual perversion is a part of every ritual, according to our survivor. This unbridled sex, including the
    abuse of children which many times is filmed to be sold for profit in the child pornography market, is
    also part of the lure to attract those people who are prone to participate in acts of deviate sexual
    conduct. This aspect is interesting because child molestation is a crime and, many times, blackmailing
    the victims and parents can be profitable. The children who have been victimized all tell of being
    placed nude on tables, eaten, insulted, mocked, tortured sexually, and forced to have sex with siblings,
    animals, and adults, including same-sex partners. Satanism's doctrine proclaims no restraints in all
    areas of morality including sex.
    [20] EXCREMENT
    Who is this? It is Osiris. Others however, say that it is the dead body of Osiris and, yet others, say that
    it is the excrement of Osiris."
    Both Pictures #35 and #34 are examples of the use of excrement in satanic ritual abuse in the 90's.
    Both show children lying on tables with people in robes and other disguises. Both show bowls nearby
    filled with urine and feces to be smeared over the children's bodies. Children tell how they were
    made to eat and drink the human waste. Defilement of the innocence of the child, humiliation, and
    degradation are forced upon these children to both satisfy their god-Satan-and their own unbridled
    Lust.
    An interesting note about the child who drew #35: This girl alleges she was ritually abused at a
    Masonic home down in the south. She claims she spent nine years at this home being forced to
    participate in and witness some type of ritual performed by men who were Masons. According to this
    victim, the people who forced these children to partake in these rituals also forced them to wear a pair
    of 'golden scales' around their neck. This is extremely significant in light of what 33 Mason C. W.
    Leadbeater said about Black Masonry.
    The whole of what we now call Black Masonry led up to an explanation of karma as divine justice,
    this having been preserved for us in shadow in what is now the 31 . That is the degree of the Grand
    Inspector Inquisitor Commander, whose symbol is a pair of scales. In Egypt, this pair of scales was
    taken as an emblem of the perfect balance of divine justice.
    This young girl's disclosure could well be the first ritual of Black Masonry ever to be documented.
    She also alleges that she observed her siblings killed during these rituals. Further, she alleges that
    other children at the home were used in pornography and prostitution.
    [22]. CHAMBER OF SNAKES
    The chamber appeared to be filled with reptiles, to teach the Necoris to withstand bodily terror. The
    greater the courage shewn on this trial, so much the more was he lauded after reception.
    In Pictures #30 and 33, snakes are used to teach the children who are ritually abused to withstand
    bodily terror.
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    In #33, the child victim had to let the snakes crawl over her. She was not allowed to cry or move even
    one muscle. This use of snakes is so traumatic to the children many times this act alone is enough to
    cause the development of Multiple Personality Disorder.
    In #33, and in #28, in the Boat Ritual referred to Chapter 6, snake bites occurred many times. The
    pain was unbearable, but intentionally inflicted upon the victims.
    Picture #30 shows the use of snakes as guardians to keep the children in their cages and quiet.
    [24] THE ANKH
    The ankh is an Egyptian symbol of life and is often associated with fertility.
    The ankh in Picture #32 shows an illustration of a book the child victim calls "The Devil's Book".
    The child said the perpetrators of her abuse read from this book at the "meetings" where she and other
    children were abused. The child shows the book had the Egyptian symbol of life and fertility on the
    cover. Pictures such as these leave no doubt to the adult observer that these rituals, described by child
    victims of ritual abuse, are directly related to ancient blood rites.
    During many of these rituals, the Devil, or Satan, was summoned from a pit. In Picture #7, a survivor
    has drawn her conception of what she thought he resembled: a half-human, half-animal form. In some
    literature this type of figure is called a "Pan" figure or god of the underworld.
    [21] SELF-MUTILATION AND PERVERSION
    Who are these gods? They are the drops of blood which came forth from the phallus of Ra when he
    went to perform his own mutilation. These drops of blood sprang into being under the forms of the
    gods Hu and Sa, who are in the bodygard of ra, and who accompany the god Tem daily and every day.
    Although I do not have an illustration that depicts self-mutilation, we have worked with many ritual
    abuse victims and it seems as though even the youngest of the children display tendencies toward
    self-injury. We have known of instances where children as young as age four have cut and scratched
    themselves severely as a result of the trauma and pain suffered during ritualistic abuse. As the victims
    spend more time in the abusive situation, they will eventually be programmed to keep the abuse a
    secret. One victim that we have worked with extensively would hurt herself impulsively. She told us
    that she was taught to do something to herself if she began considering disclosure of the dark secrets
    to someone who might threaten the cult's operations. Even years after leaving the abusive group the
    urge to hurt herself was sometimes overwhelming, resulting in self-inflicted scratches, burns, or razor
    blade cuts. Suicidal tendencies are common among ritual abuse victims. One survivor said she would
    rather die than feel the pain caused by guilt over the things she was forced to participate in. She saw,
    over and over, the pain felt by the cult's sacrificial offerings; sometimes adult, and sometimes child,
    victims. During these times, she would usually feel like hurting herself, saying, "I deserve it." This
    false feeling of being responsible for those victims who died upon the Satanists' altars many times
    would send the survivor into a frenzy of self-mutilation.
    Other children who have been ritualisticallly abused will sometimes try to aggressively sexually
    assault other children, repeating and acting out the perversion of the adult cult members.
    All of the illustrations we have briefly examined in this chapter are gruesome testimonials to the
    horrors that man is capable of inflicting upon innocent children. The trauma or emotional shock to the
    children is immeasurable and in many cases death results. As I have stated earlier, in those cases
    where the child survives, the atrocities the victim is left with does irreparable damage to body, mind,
    and spirit. This indoctrination into evil is not easily reversed. That is exactly what the perpetrators of
    this abuse set out to accomplish. The children are taught that the dark god who requires the blood,
    pain, and flesh of innocent victims is the supreme deity. They are taught that darkness is more
    powerful than light. Love is something fictitious. To devour one's own kind is a pleasure which
    extends life and adds to personal gain. The total reversal of both spiritual and moral value results in
    the development of a heartless, murderous, depraved human being, who can only be reclaimed by the
    one power greater than God's dark adversary. The power of Jesus Christ to redeem, through love,
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    those little ones offended by the servants of Satan himself, is the one hope the innocent young victims
    have.
    After looking at the obvious similarities between the Ancient Egyptian Blood Rituals of "The
    Book of the Dead" and the disclosures of victims of modern day ritualistic satanic abuse or Satanism,
    we are left with no doubt as to the origin of this dark religion. Although we may draw back at the
    thought, we must also consider those who practice these dark rites and consider the role they may play
    in our every day life as a society. Do these blood thirsty practitioners of horror affect anyone more
    than the innocent victims of this religion? We think: Yes!
    We know from first-hand experience, the grief each victim-survivor is living through as they disclosed
    the terrible things they endured. We have seen the problems this information has caused the families
    of the survivors. We have listened as families and victim-survivors have told us how many times they
    have been rejected and not believed by their own church families. We have spent a countless number
    of days and nights listening, believing, crying, comforting, and most important of all praying for and
    with these victim-survivors and their families; these "little ones" whom Jesus died for.
    We hope this book will show you - the reader - that the evil of old is as real and present in our day
    as it was in the day when the Ancient Rites were first recorded. Let us continue to pray for the
    innocent "little ones" who need our intervention to help rescue them from the chains which bind them
    within this "Hidden Holocaust."
    Although our society as a whole is rejecting the possibility of such an unspeakable problem; ritual
    child abuse is a reality. Only by believing the children, who have survived these awful acts, can we
    help them escape. Modern day Satanists have a number of stated goals; one of which is to claim as its
    own an entire generation. We as Christians, must answer the call to spiritual warfare if we hope to
    help God's most precious creation: Our children !

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by wynderer (here)
    Hi Justoneconfusedman --

    i know/intuit that you are a good man

    how can i say this -- i see signs of someone who is under the influence of someone/something that is causing this confusion in you

    confusion is a minor version of chaos -- & it seems to be a tool of satan -- when i first got on the net , looking for info about abductions , i of course got heavily into UFOs/ETs -- sooner or later, w/every line of inquiry, i'd end up in some dead end, all confusing & murky

    i've noticed in recent movies about good vs evil, they often vaguely confuse the two -- blurring the lines w/a little outright lie here & there

    just re-read your post -- where did you get the idea that a force, as you call it, that seems to be acting for good in your life -- where did the idea that it might be malevolent come from?

    Is it possible the archontic forces CAN manipulate the reality all the way to the level of the full blown spirit communication I have via my systems as well as voice communications I experience?

    just re-read again -- yikes! voice communications? -- they can certainly manipulate minds -- i've had some doozies tried on me -- been made to look like a fool more than once [good for humility (:] -- i do not encourage voice communications --

    the system you have created -- i truly hesitate to say what may seem like a criticism -- in a sense you are using symbols -- a big part of magic, i think -- have avoided that all my life-- & i think you know about the controllers' use of symbols to manipulate the collective Human mind, both conscious & unconscious

    so perhaps a structured system is a way for them to get at you? & gives you that sense of uneasiness, of the ground not being firm beneath your feet ?

    just some thoughts -- look forward to your reply

    wyn

    also posting this from your post below, as those are wise words , coming from experience:

    I went through a period where I experienced a massive amount of synchronicities all related to the various magical systems and came out of that experience with the conclusions that magic is nothing more than a game children might play. Read that again - all magic is simply a game world for kids who still haven't grown up.

    wyn

    ===================


    Hi Wyn... my question was prompted by the information provided in the quote you highlighted in your post - which upon my reading it implied we were screwed unless we do something about it -

    Quote The Conclusions Are Inescapable.
    (1) The secret power structure believes that, because of our own ignorance or by Divine Decree, planet Earth will self-destruct sometime in the near future. The-se men sincerely believe that they are doing the right thing in their attempt to save the human race. It is terribly ironic that they have been forced to take as their partner an alien race which is itself engaged in a monumental struggle for survival. Many moral and legal compromises were made in error and must be corrected and those responsible should be made to account for their actions. I can understand the fear and urgency that must have been instrumental in the decision not to tell the public. Obviously I disagree with this decision. Throughout history small but powerful groups of men have consistently felt that they alone were capable of deciding the fates of millions and throughout history have been wrong. This great nation owes its very existence to the Principles of Freedom and Democracy. I believe with all my heart that the United States of America cannot and will not succeed in any effort that ignores those principles. Full disclosure to the public should be made and we should proceed to save the human race altogether.
    (2) We are being manipulated by a joint human/alien power structure which will result in the total enslavement and or destruction of the human race. We must use any and every means available to prevent this from happening.
    (3) The government has been totally deceived and we are being manipulated by an alien power which will result in the total enslavement and/or destruction of the human race. We must use any and all means available to prevent this from happening.
    (4) Something else is happening which is beyond our ability to understand at this time. We must force disclosure of all the facts, discover the truth and act upon the truth.
    Now you gave your answer via an example of an experience you had which you interpret to come from some non human benevolent source - so finally I have what I am interpreting to be a direct answer of... and I am simply paraphrasing - "No, we physical/3D humans on earth are not in this fight alone, we have assistance from a non human benevolent force which I have experienced personally."

    I am glad to hear this from you because I greatly respect you as you are very involved in many threads that I am very interested in. I am real, real happy to hear this and I will tell you why. I don't know you and I could be wrong but you come across as completely honest. Based on your experiences, I always read your posts carefully and with a very open and optimistic mind. My questions to you are seeking direct answers and this last post of yours is about as direct as you can get.

    Now, to clarify something. I am a benevolent being. I never owned guns, never wanted to harm another being and never advocated harm in any way, only self defense. I have studied every possible religion, thought system, mystical path, etc. you can imagine. In my investigation I had to include the study of satanism as well as luciferianism. I created a relationship with real human beings who were involved in a positive (seemingly at least to me) dragon society. Throughout all my investigations, I also carried with me my own, self developed system of corroboration. I went through a period where I experienced a massive amount of synchronicities all related to the various magical systems and came out of that experience with the conclusions that magic is nothing more than a game children might play. Read that again - all magic is simply a game world for kids who still haven't grown up.

    I cast that all aside.

    I have my own technique of verification I am on the correct path via a combination of gut and external verification much like a shaman reads clouds. I developed my system directly with spirit and created my own code systems via colors, animal actions (especially birds), cloud patterns, numbers and words (english language). Thus I live a life now that I can ask spirit to confirm something for me and it will through the language I have developed personally. There are a zilion mystics that have come before me and who live today (perhaps we all are) but some self realized then went to the next steps of putting their communications systems into a book and then provided it to others and these often became revered systems by followers.

    I never did this for two simple reasons - a.) followers always screw things up and sometimes a new religion will be created out of it b.) because my system is personal to and for me and to share it with others casts the light upon myself I am something special (or that I think I am) so I saw (and still see) no purpose in sharing my system of communication with spirit with another.

    My questions are based on concerns that perhaps what I may be communicating with is ultimately malevolent. That I (nor any of us) need to rely on anything outside of ourselves. That may sound a bit egotistical as well as extremely unrealistic but the question I have is very real and for a very good reason - Is it possible the archontic forces CAN manipulate the reality all the way to the level of the full blown spirit communication I have via my systems as well as voice communications I experience?

    It is likely an impossible question for anyone to answer for another human being. Even more - it is impossible to know if the human being that may be having this type of experience that I am having is deceiving themselves.

    I have experienced dozens of amazing miracles where my life was saved when I should be dead. Folks that know me and have shared in part of my life know this - they say I am lucky - ok so is a lottery winner but the odds are pretty stacked against winning YET people do eventually win.

    My point in all this is that I am very, very concerned that what has saved my ass dozens of times, what I am communicating with through impossible synchronicities (that blow away the examples you hear David Wilcock speak about) - that all of this could be be simply manipulations of the 7 chief archons below the demiurge - these 7 are the prime fashioners of this matrix.

    I have reached the point I do not trust anything anymore - meaning I do not feel comfortable relying on this outside force that has downloaded the wisdom of the ages for example, that is able to communicate with me all the time and which may have saved my butt dozens of times because I am concerned it is all just a setup.

    Now I have shared the deeper question and the details of this question you see my dilemma. I am able to accept that miracles happen in other people's lives and I am able to accept that "something that has ultimate good in mind" is behind those miracles, yet I am having a hard time accepting that this "ultimate good force" is what has been involved in my own life only because I have gone so deep into my relationship with this force.

    Its like - to talk about it - makes it evil... maybe if I just shut up and let it be, it will stay with me and stay on the good side.

    justoneconfusedman

    Hi Wynderer - let me try and explain it like this - we all talk to ourselves it seems. We all think thoughts that are sometimes internal discussions... Should I go to the store today? I do need to get my daughter a birthday card? Humm its her 23rd birthday and.." and then suddenly on the TV screen I look up and see a TV show that is being advertised is on tonight at 23:00... at the exact same moment I am thinking the worded thought, "its her 23rd birthday" I call that simply spirit nudging me - Yes Sir buddyo - go get her that birthday card!" Thats what I am talking about. I gave a very simple example. I am trying to demonstrate through that simple example how it works.

    Now consider that I have done this privately (never spoke to anyone about this save for a few very in tune close friend/individuals) but never publicly. I have developed my communication system with color, numbers, words, nature... in essence all that arises in one's awareness. It is direct communication with spirit. The only time it becomes negative is when I have done drugs and that seems to let in the bad guys... that's why I do not do any drugs nor drink alcohol. I do not ever take any perscription drugs either. I only drink coffee - that's it.

    Anyways all my questions have simply been to see if you have had positive experiences with what you are certain are non earthly sources and you described one (of many I bet too!).

    The problem with developing these types of abilities is that one can be susceptible to messianic complexes and I have fortunately avoided that as I always remain solo, never tell fortunes nor give anyone any advice. But you can imagine the entities I have worked with - some pretty dark ones yes (and almost cost me my life and dozens of times including two suicide attempts - but those always happened because of drugs too - drugs open the field to these nasty buggers)...

    anyways thanks for you super appreciated posts wynderer
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