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    Quote Posted by Siberia9 (here)
    Anybody feel like this whole thing, start to finish, is one big staged show? Turning your govt into swine, destroying the monetary system (Sept 21st the Dollar will no longer be used to pay for oil, kiss it good bye BTW), corrupting ALL levels of western govt. basically making us hate the govt, the supposed secret group behind them and the banking cartels that finance it all. just so they can come in and save us all and bring in a nice new way to run the world. Golly gee good thing we defeated the bad guys. And we will all go along with it. thank gawd we didn't let'em put us in them FEMA camps. Yes sir them Bavarian Illuminati guys sure turned out to be good guys. Now we got that Meritocracy thing, all we gatta do is let'm raise our kids and give'em all our money and property and they will assign us all jobs and take care of us, whoo hoo!

    It washed over me today that all the infighting between the Bloodline Family's and all the plans to get rid of the Banking Elite and their whole crew of scum and all the Santa Claus story's that go with being involved with any of these Family's and Orders is about to play out its final chapter for the world to see, and it may just be one big scam. Frankly I feel a little sick about it and I'm not even sure I'm exactly right but something is wrong about all this on multiple levels.
    But, if you've been paying attention to the government - for a VERY long time - you'll know that the government really is despicable. It's not a mind-game. War has been used as a money-maker for many decades at the very least, and (if the alternate history is correct), for centuries. That one fact alone - that there are men who can sit around and plan war, death, and destruction to make their piles of gold bigger is enough to make any sane person want them out of power. Unfortunately, people have not been smart enough to see that they gamed the entire system, and that is why voting for one of the 2 people pre-selected and vetted by the Power Elite (vetted to do the bidding of the Power Elite) never changes anything.

    The next cluster of politicians, just like those that came before them, are bought-off or have bought-into the pyramid of wealth accumulation, and it has been exponentially expanding. The 2008 economic crisis was planned/engineered by the banking elite. The 1929 stock market crash was planned and executed by them. They don't care at all about human suffering, just greed. The 2008 "crisis" is a puff of smoke compared to the $700 trillion dollars in derivatives that have be "hot-potato" traded just about as many time as possible on the world market, and now it is time to find out who is holding the worthless pieces of paper. I'm going to bet that the sophisticated people who planned the whole derivatives scam have made trillions of dollars, and don't own ANY of the paper at all any more.

    I think my mom and dad, my family members and yours, are about to find out where the paper ended up: somehow, "amazingly" it will be the majority of every retirement account and savings account of all the regular folks. Folks who will soon be broke, in survival mode, after working their asses off for their entire lives. Banks will foreclose on 100 million properties in the US, and the ultra-rich (who own massive amounts of real estate property, gold, platinum, silver, etc. but NOT any derivative-backed paper) will be buying the foreclosed homes, farms, and businesses for pennies on the dollar - just like they did in the 1930's "Great Depression." (That is, this is their plan - this is what we must stop.)

    Don't doubt what you know. These people really are evil. Even if you don't believe there is a "secret government", you must realize that there is a group of (at least independent) ultra-rich empires that collude and force policy changes to allow them the highest profits with no cares at all about workers or the environment. You must see that Monsanto is trying to take over the world's food supply, expanding GMO seeds, buying up most other seed companies, creating plants with "suicide" (infertile) seeds. If Monsanto was the only evil force in the world, the people of the world would have a formidable foe - but there are dozens of corporations just as evil in their own fields.

    I do think there is cross-communication between these people at or near the top of the pyramid. I think it is more of a "Mafia" structure than a secret "government" structure, but that there is interplay and top-level planning done by them. And it ain't to benefit you and me.

    I don't doubt that these people play massive games with our heads, and get us to do stupid things in a herding mentality. We are easily manipulated. I don't know for sure if the tsunami that hit Japan was human-engineered, and whether (as some say) the nuclear reactors were further deliberately sabotaged. But I do know with complete certainty that 9/11 was a false flag event, and that the perpetrators had to be embedded within the US government, and the US government and mass-media has been the cover-up team. I also am convinced that very high-tech weaponry was used to drop those buildings, turning steel and concrete to dust, at near free-fall speed - and that most of us still are clueless as to how exactly they did it. With that level and degree of capability, plus the will, plus the laws that are in-place right this minute, they have complete capability to create a giant false-flag event, declare Marshall Law, crash the economy to further make us helpless, and herd us into FEMA camps for our "safety."

    So, does it make any sense at all that, rather than use the most powerful weapons they have (fear, propaganda, false-flags), that instead, they'd find some good 'ol buy from Tennessee to pretend to be the spokesperson for a group of patriots? Who tells us to keep our guns oiled and ammo stocked, and fill our pantries? Note, he didn't say, lay down your weapons when the "good guys" disguised as Homeland Security knock on your door. He encouraged militia-types to stay in touch with their militia. He said that the action starts with senior government and banking and corporate officials being arrested, right? He did not say, we're going to pretend to surrender to FEMA camps and wait there for the arrests to occur, right?

    Not believing Drake's story is one thing, but at least we should pay attention to what the story is, and whether it really does or really does not put us into a more compromised position.

    If no one "good" has the courage to do anything at all, I think we can pretty well guarantee that those who are ruled by greed will keep doing what they do, and that in addition to the genocide and ecocide they currently preside over, and the unbelievable (and unearned) disparity of wealth they live in versus the abject poverty of the vast majority of humanity, they know full well that someone is going to get stuck with $700 trillion dollars worth of nothing, and very soon. It won't be pretty. We could sit around and talk about chemtrails and reptoids and pretend to be awake and aware. We could listen to the loudest person, shouting with the most passion.

    Don't count on any helpful advice from the folks at Avalon who are farting forth warnings and know-it-all posturing with no plans whatsoever beyond taking care of themselves - and warning us to do the same. The clueless and selfish self-proclaimed saviors/shamans/interpreters trying to lead the gullible, by telling the gullible they are gullible and not to follow any saviors, shamans, or interpreters, but do listen to them. Ha!

    In my opinion, (which is just as valuable or worthless as anyone else's opinion) the Drake "threads" are over. If the plan by patriots is real, it will happen if they can make it happen. The info that needed to be disseminated was. With the vast majority of people unable and unwilling to unite to try something as a mass group of citizens, I'd say, at this moment, it is the only thing that could even possibly work. (Yes, I'm excluding all of the 5D, 6D, 10D "dimensional shift", "cosmic shift", ET/ED intervention stuff, because to me it requires belief that I don't have. Include it if you want to.) I hope this patriot group is real, and that they are successful. Don't count on Drake, or the patriots, but don't spend too much more time analyzing the ingredients of the stew. We'll know soon enough.

    Maybe one of the very noisy negative people here on Avalon is working on a plan! Someone be sure to alert me when one of the self-proclaimed saviors, shamans, or interpreters here comes up with a plan worth checking out - that is, a plan that doesn't involve ignoring the suffering of humanity and just taking care of myself.

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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Not believing Drake's story is one thing, but at least we should pay attention to what the story is, and whether it really does or really does not put us into a more compromised position.
    The positive aspect regardless if Drake is telling the truth or not is that he sure has drawn attention to some of the major problems going on around the globe, there is always a flip side to every coin.

    ....and I ascended this morning!!!!! (when I climbed out of bed)

    Edit: Fixed quote identity

    Added: I am pretty much done wasting my time and energy about this Drake saga thing, it is like a vampire sucking energy out of so many, myself included......we all know "something" big is gonna happen, best to get our own houses in order before we start focusing on some ones else's so much....Drake is Drake and doing what he's doing, whoopity do!. I'm done being sucked into this frenzie of twisted speculation and will tend to my own home, my own family, not his any longer, and watch for the signs that I see, not what someone else see's.......

    Peace and awareness to all!
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    To Dennis, Drake says that 80% of the soldiers are awake and that he's a spokesman for a 30 year mass arrest plan. They are very much aware of all the evil and corruption in the world, unlike most of the general population. It remains to be seen if they can put the plan into action and if the elites can't thwart their arrests.

    (this post got buried on page 60)

    To the skeptics above, I already realize that we each have to save ourselves. I am not going to look for any external saviors. I am doing my part to raise my own awareness by reading about what's really going on. If ascension does become a reality, having a little knowledge is better than none. If mass arrests do finally happen this year, alot more people will wake up and ascend.

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Quote Posted by Siberia9 (here)
    Anybody feel like this whole thing, start to finish, is one big staged show? .



    Whatever happened to us, the human race, that we have to spend so much time glued to our computer screens being conditioned by this kind of programming?

    We're stuck to the internet, like a rabbit in the headlights, having to watch video after video after video, in an attempt to get to the bottom of this rabbit hole. It's not just fear porn. There's also hope porn. Sitcom writers are experts at hope porn. They just leave a little teaser at the end of each episode, just like the writers of psy ops.

    The internet is not free and it is not ours. It is owned by the military. All these guys with their interminably loooooooooong interviews telling us what's really going on and what we should do are connected to the military, even the latest one who's just pulled up alongside, Major Hathaway, to move the goalposts to October now that Drake with his June is losing credibility. Very powerful factions within the military want to overthrow the status quo to replace it with their own status quo.

    They've been slowly bringing us to the boil over 2012 ever since that Mayan calendar was discovered which ended then. Since then, other Mayan calendars have been discovered that go way past 2012, by thousands of years, but you never hear about these. This one was found last year.

    In any case, the 21st December 2012 of that original Mayan calendar can in no way correlate to our own timeline because, since the various calendar reforms by first Julius Caesar in 46 BC and then Pope Gregory XIII in 1582, we’re no longer in synch with the Mayans Short Count or Long Count calendars.

    But I guess these military men were counting on our lack of intelligence in figuring that out.

    In any case, they then came up with this fiction of "Looking Glass" and convinced us, through arse-numblingly tedious YouTube videos, that it predicted the end for the global elite on 21st December 2012, and so "the global elite are panicking and trying to do a grabbit and run before then... but don't worry, if you follow the right leaders, and do as you're told, ET will come and save you before then.

    "Oh, and by the way, don't even think about Looking Glass, because if you do, it will know you are thinking about it."

    We have no way of verifiying any of this except by other stuff we've read... but we couldn't verify that either. Who here has been to Mars via a jump room? Who here has seen Looking Glass?

    It's just one uncashed cheque supporting another uncashed cheque supporting another uncashed cheque.... and it could very well be a tissue of lies. How would we know?

    One of the noble attempts at due diligence on this forum, recently, was stamped all over with death threats by one of those purporting to be leading us to this Land of Milk of Honey.

    So if we do as they say, and go along with their revolution, we're told that the ETs will arrive on Earth and give us their enhanced technology. "No, they won't come during the revolution. ... so you just have to have faith." But go along with these military guys, and "once they're in power, the ETs wil show up." Wow... just what we need... more technology. That'll help us all to get on with each other better, won't it? And hey, maybe they even have a special ladder to God, like Jacob's. Yeah!!! That must be what that story in the Bible meant. Why has this ladder been hidden from us? It's dem pesky evil global elite again!!

    Are we really that stupid? No we're not.

    These military guys are stealing our time, our thoughts and our consciousness.

    And if the world economic system does come crashing down, it won't be our fault for not following the right leader. It will be their fault for crashing it in their bid for power.

    Well, I'm not watching any more of their videos, because I've been given this extraordinary gift of Life, and I want to experience it to the fullest. They can take their science fiction writers and shove them up where the sun don't shine. I'm going out to sniff the air, to smell the blossoms, to watch the gambolling spring lambs. 'Scuse me... while I kiss the sky!


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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    It's all about manipulation and control and thet're doing a darn good job at it in my opinion....
    Good points to consider...

    I guess that makes the most sense yet. My son said something the other day that really made so much sense, too, it caught me off-guard...

    He said sort of the same thing... “when all the angles of the conspiracy activities have been considered- you can't really do much about it, as a single individual, and you still end up having to - go to work to pay the bills, put food on the table, and take care of your daily business, and if you put your mind into THAT- you don't really have time to worry about all the conspiracy activities”.

    So the only thing that will make a difference in our lives is to ignore all of this stuff and just go live life???? does that mean that if we ignore it -it will all go away ?

    Well, OK then... I know I have lost a lot of production time in the activities I wanted to do- all because I wanted to connect with like minded people (instead of the locals' who only want to chat and complain about the weather here) who are also starved for deep and meaningful conversations.

    I guess is really is about connecting on a personal level and enjoying each other's company...

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    Quote I guess is really is about connecting on a personal level and enjoying each other's company...
    If human beings did not question, consider and debate the 'what ifs' and dream outside the box, we would all be very boring and nothing would change ever. And, as you say, a lot of people don't stop to question or consider the 'what ifs'. What's really nice about this community is we argue and debate and really challenge each other to question our beliefs. That's good!
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    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    Quote I guess is really is about connecting on a personal level and enjoying each other's company...
    If human beings did not question, consider and debate the 'what ifs' and dream outside the box, we would all be very boring and nothing would change ever. And, as you say, a lot of people don't stop to question or consider the 'what ifs'. What's really nice about this community is we argue and debate and really challenge each other to question our beliefs. That's good!
    yes, and now we need to find a way to restart and expand that into our local communities (a revival - of sorts-).

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Maybe one of the very noisy negative people here on Avalon is working on a plan! Someone be sure to alert me when one of the self-proclaimed saviors, shamans, or interpreters here comes up with a plan worth checking out - that is, a plan that doesn't involve ignoring the suffering of humanity and just taking care of myself.

    Dennis
    Dennis, the "plan" first and foremost is to get one's personal house in order. This includes, as you have so eloquently stated elsewhere, food storage, home gardens, move assets from the big banks to local credit union's, get out of debt, etc.

    Then, move out into our local communities and talk to other like minded people, and create local co-operatives, and begin to get involved in the local elections for sheriff, etc. Then, once your county is even remotely civil and trustworthy, take it to your state. Change is a bottom up prospect, not a top down.

    Then, the other larger things, such as your Reset Button, Wade Frasiers energy initiatives, how to become sovereign, etc. don't seem to get much traction in the collective at this time. Historically, these types of initiatives come into play when things get really bad.

    I know it's frustrating that we don't see more people upset and passionate about actually doing something, but that is human nature. Until the homeland security guys are standing at the front door, most of us wont do anything.

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    I know it's frustrating that we don't see more people upset and passionate about actually doing something, but that is human nature. Until the homeland security guys are standing at the front door, most of us wont do anything.[/QUOTE]

    I say it like this: When the masses have enough trouble getting their beer and toilet paper, then we might see the People take back their power and effect the return to the pretense "of the people, by the people, for the people." The pretense itself is what has been made to seem hopeless for too many. Getting it back seems to me to be the major initial object. That's why I'm not interested in all the specifics being debated, people have to first start believing they can believe.
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    Ishtar, have you listened to Wilcock's 5/9 ctc show on youtube and his latest blog post at www.divinecosmos.com called Divine Intervention?

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    I wrote this a few weeks ago and posted it on my own website after listening to one of Drakes earlier interviews and thought I'd post it here in this thread and wanted to share it with you all. I hope you all don't mind, this is what I was feeling after listening to that interview,,,,

    Reality is Mistaken

    People (most people) will believe almost anything that makes them feel safe or that will make them not have to deal with reality and will follow just about anyone with some of the most idiotic theories for the same exact reasons regardless if they know if it is real or unreal because they do not have the "courage" or "spiritual strength" to think and act for themselves.


    When one (of the many) actually find the courage or spiritual strength to actually believe in themselves and to accept the actual reality that is in front of them, they often scatter in fear and fall back in to the place of illusion and absentmindedness......


    Those that actually make it past this challenge often find themselves alone and reaching for others hoping that at least one other person will understand them and know that they are not insane or mistaken....


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    I certainly hope it doesn't get to the point where the 99 % sink to the level of poverty say,... as seen in 3rd World countries? What will it take? What would happen? Already we can see big changes in this direction. The mouse is beginning to roar.

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Maybe one of the very noisy negative people here on Avalon is working on a plan! Someone be sure to alert me when one of the self-proclaimed saviors, shamans, or interpreters here comes up with a plan worth checking out - that is, a plan that doesn't involve ignoring the suffering of humanity and just taking care of myself.

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    Dennis, the "plan" first and foremost is to get one's personal house in order. This includes, as you have so eloquently stated elsewhere, food storage, home gardens, move assets from the big banks to local credit union's, get out of debt, etc.

    Then, move out into our local communities and talk to other like minded people, and create local co-operatives, and begin to get involved in the local elections for sheriff, etc. Then, once your county is even remotely civil and trustworthy, take it to your state. Change is a bottom up prospect, not a top down.

    Then, the other larger things, such as your Reset Button, Wade Frasiers energy initiatives, how to become sovereign, etc. don't seem to get much traction in the collective at this time. Historically, these types of initiatives come into play when things get really bad.

    I know it's frustrating that we don't see more people upset and passionate about actually doing something, but that is human nature. Until the homeland security guys are standing at the front door, most of us wont do anything.
    Remember, if you live outside the city, it's going to be hard to get around, I mean the distance between where you live and urban hubs. Consider alternative transportation, if necessary.

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
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    where the hell do you guys find the time to participate in all this bs?
    obviously the same place you get the time to read it...
    It's called.... multi-tasking!
    Ha ha excellent reply.

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    Looks like Drake is returning to the airwaves. Update show with Deatra wed on FreedomReigns.US. Time TBA.

    http://freedomreigns.us/Upcoming_Shows.html

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    another thought about the Drake frenzy -- the whole thing is very similar to the 'SourceA' stuff on OpenMinds forum [no longer active last time i checked]

    at that time i listened to an interview w/the authors of 'The Stargate Conspiracy,' who said that USA intel likes to observe & learn from groups who have fallen for the latest Messiah scam , & that they especially like to see how folks deal w/it as time passes & it becomes obvious that what the current messiah was saying is not true

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    at that time i listened to an interview w/the authors of 'The Stargate Conspiracy,' who said that USA intel likes to observe & learn from groups who have fallen for the latest Messiah scam , & that they especially like to see how folks deal w/it as time passes & it becomes obvious that what the current messiah was saying is not true
    Don't know if that's true or not, but I certainly would be far from shocked if it were. Thing is, if they are that interested in studying this dynamic, then they are also likely to be affiliated with the folks that orchestrate these things in the first place.

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    another thought about the Drake frenzy -- the whole thing is very similar to the 'SourceA' stuff on OpenMinds forum [no longer active last time i checked]

    at that time i listened to an interview w/the authors of 'The Stargate Conspiracy,' who said that USA intel likes to observe & learn from groups who have fallen for the latest Messiah scam , & that they especially like to see how folks deal w/it as time passes & it becomes obvious that what the current messiah was saying is not true
    Hi.

    Ie, and with every new version comes an improved storyline. It would seem that they are tweaking (hacking) every couple of months now & watching how it plays out (runs). Its uncanny how human behaviour & software can be manipulated into virtually any design the programmer wants. Makes you wonder if in fact life itself is nothing more than a SIMS game.

    So isn't it just possible that the storyline is only being held together & allowed to play out / run because of the same people (programmes) jumping on and screaming "he's the real deal" while rallying around for support & attacking all who see through the scam every fews months?

    Maybe the problem is closer to home than folk believe?
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    Maybe the problem is closer to home than folk believe?
    ???... meaning... ???

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    This is my understanding of Human circumstances:

    A. By the end of this year (plus or minus months) the CABAL and so-called elected leadership will be gone and liberated humanity will enjoy universal standing and commerce.

    B. The Planned economic downfall will have started within 90 days.

    C. ET/ED has and continues to clean-up the Earth and 4th+ Dimensioned beings that have ruled us for thousands of years. The TPTW no longer enjoys their financial and extra-dimensional powers over humanity; the grid and matrix (mind control systems) and chemtrail systems have already been substantially damaged and will be fully removed soon.

    D. Thus, we are now fully capable with no further excuses for not stopping the madness now. Humanity itself will decide whether US Marshals & Military are mobilized prior to the economic crash and self-destruction of civilians against civilians as planned by TPTW.
    1. ET/ED cannot enter our dimension currently at this time as we are capable of doing that ourselves.
    2. Humans will create a much better standing for itself to immediately provide the necessary leadership and self-determination.
    3. This is my personal opinion: Many humans are choosing to have Revelations play out; they will be dissatisfied if blood doesn't run deep and Christ doesn't descend out of the clouds.
    a. If this happens, it is by group karmic choice to "learn" the consequences of refusal to read the obvious signs of enslavement and ignorance.
    b. If this happens, it is by group karmic choice to Return-to-Source.
    Thus, the level of human suffering (human population that remains at the end when new "good" bottom-up "human" leadership) after the collapse occurs is determined upon how well in the weeks ahead humanity can work together with civilian and military globally. We have time to accomplish that, but only by actual leaders.

    There is no time or effort available to deal with responses by the Negatives and Critics.
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