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    Wade asked that a new thread be started, so we are here.

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    I'm sure everyone on the forum has seen this first little tidbit (you should watch it if you haven't.) But, these are exactly the types of inventions that will start changing the world around us.



    Indeed, if there were a 'Tesla Applied Sciences' course, then I would go back to school.



    Some amazing inventions also seem to be quite simple -



    There are already many amazing inventions out there -



    The lack of inventors/inventions really isn't the issue. It's the lack of education and the suppression of these inventions that is holding us back.
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    John Searle

    Inventor of the SEG.. Searl Effect Generator (still waiting on that Kerry Cassidy interview to be edited by her, i hope he did not retract his cooperation with PC after the recent blowback interviews and he still takes this community, whatever that me be or represent seriously enough to keep pumping his products out and lives long enough to see the possible global implementation of it) One can always hope, its free, but i hope it will be charged within the context of energy instead of bills.

    I like this concept he presents, i am no engineer but even i almost understand what is actually happening and see the logic in it.

    http://www.johnsearlstory.com/

    http://www.searlsolution.com/








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    ECAT Technology

    The ECAT will revolutionize energy production as we know it. The energy generated by an ECAT has the following features:

    High Energy Density Fuel (200 000 times oil)
    Low Fuel Costs (1kg Ni has energy equivalence of 200 000kg oil)
    Low Operation and Maintenance Costs (the modular design admits minimal maintenance)
    Minimal Fuel Transport Cost (only 2 refuelings/year under continous run)
    Zero Carbon Dioxide Emissions
    Zero Noise (only noise from auxilliary products <50dB)

    The process that makes this possible is called Cold Fusion or Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR). Nickel is fused with Hydrogen and transmutes into copper. This is an exothermal nuclear process that releases energy at around 10MeV per atomic reaction compared to the burning of Hydrogen which only releases 1.5eV per atomic reaction (Burning H2 in O2). Per atom, the exothermal process has an energy content of more than a million times the energy content of the most energetic (per weight) chemical process. The higher weight of Nickel and the fact one usually disregard Oxygen’s weight due to its presence in air makes the net factor around 200 000 when compared to oil.

    The abundance of Nickel in the earth’s crust and the low price of Nickel make the ECAT one of the cheapest energy producers around. The ECAT does not pollute or release any carbon dioxide. Put together, there is no doubt that this is a good and safe energy source for the future.

    If you are interested in this technology or in one of the ECAT products, do not hesitate to sign up and contact us by using the ECAT Inquiry form.

    Cold Fusion expert Jed Rothwell has written an excellent paper of possible applications where he shares his view on this groundbreaking technology:

    Cold fusion has been called the ideal source of energy: it does not pollute; the fuel is inexhaustible; it is potentially thousands of times cheaper than conventional energy; and it is compact. “Compact” means both energy and power density are high. Gram for gram, energy density appears to be about a million times better than oil, coal or other chemical fuel; a single, small charge of heavy water fuel will last for decades.

    Power density is at least as good as a uranium fission reactor core, but fission requires gigantic, heavily shielded, centralized reactors, whereas cold fusion engines will probably be as small and light as gasoline engines.

    These advantages are so remarkable they give people a sense that cold fusion must be “too good to be true.” Yet, cold fusion has no unique virtues”




    ECAT 1 MW Plant

    The ECAT 1MW plant is now available on the market. Sign up and pre-order, and secure your place on a waiting list with the right to priority treatment and faster product delivery.

    The ECAT 1MW plant contains 52 smaller ECAT units mounted in a four storey container. Valve for filling the Hydrogen is on the front of each unit, together with electrical connection to the immersion heater used to start the reaction.

    Production & Manufacturing plans are set to deliver between 30-100 ECAT 1MW plants during 2012. Current delivery time is estimated to three months. Warranty for functionality is two years with a guaranteed COP of 6, and the plant has an expected life span of 30 years.

    The ECAT 1MW plant is constructed inside an international standardized 20ft container which can easily be transferred between different modes of transportation (e.g. ships, air cargo, trains and trucks).

    The plant consists of small parallel modules. Each reactor contains three cores and consumes small amounts of treated Nickel powder and Hydrogen gas (under pressure, approx. 15 bar). The plant is recharged by specially trained and certified personnel.

    Orders are accepted from all over the world and require a routine due-diligence process. Customers must comply with several criteria set by Leonardo Corporation in order to qualify for a purchase of a ECAT 1MW plant.
    ECAT 1 MW Plant Features

    ECAT 1 MW Plant is a Heat Plant with 1 MW of thermal output through a normal pressure warm water/steam outlet. It can easily be coupled to a secondary high pressure loop for local or district heating.
    ECAT 1 MW Plant produces energy through a so-called cold fusion process. No combustion takes place; instead Nickel and Hydrogen merge to produce Copper. Per unit of weight, this process is at least 100,000 more efficient than any known combustion process.
    ECAT 1 MW Plant is made up of smaller modules where the actual reactor is the size of 20cmx20cmx1cm. These small reactors are coupled in modules of 3 pieces each, then these modules in turn are built into a 20 ‘container with a series of 52 pieces. Power density in the small reactor is as high as 100 kW / L
    Due to its structure, the ECAT 1MW plant is extremely easy to use. It is delivered in a standard container which can be stacked if your solution requires multiple ECAT 1MW plants. It also has a convenient plug’n’serve design that makes installation straight forward.

    ECAT 1MW Technical Data
    Thermal Output Power 1 MW
    Electrical Input Power Peak 200 kW
    Electrical input Power Average 167 kW
    COP 6
    Power Ranges 20 kW-1 MW
    Modules 52
    Power per Module 20kW
    Water Pump brand Various
    Water Pump Pressure 4 Bar
    Water Pump Capacity 1500 kg/hr
    Water Pump Ranges 30-1500 kg/hr
    Water Input Temperature 4-85 C
    Water Output Temperature 85-120 C
    Control Box Brand National Instruments
    Controlling Software National Instruments
    Operation and Maintenance Cost $1/MWhr
    Fuel Cost $1/MWhr
    Recharge Cost Included in O&M
    Recharge Frequency 2/year
    Warranty 2 years
    Estimated Lifespan 30 years
    Price $1.5M
    Dimension 2.4×2.6x6m

    All data provided above may be subject to change due to the ECATs rapid development. Technical specifications will continuously be updated when changes are made.


    http://ecat.com/

    http://www.e-catworld.com/

    http://leonardocorp1996.com

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/
    JANUARY 15th FOCARDI AND ROSSI PRESS CONFERENCE -= Today, Saturday January 15th, at 10:00 AM Sergio Focardi and Andrea Rossi will be on-line for the press conference with Journal’s readers. [And thereafter they have been responding to comments as well, in a timely manner.]
    Is the Rossi energy amplifier the first pico-chemical reactor? - The nuclear signatures that can be expected when contacting hydrogen with nickel, were derived from thermal results recently obtained (Rossi energy amplifier), using the type of reaction paths proposed as the explanation of the energy produced. The consequences of proton or neutron capture have been studied. (July 18th, 2010)

    https://youtube.com/user/efagroup2010 YouTube channel

    Licensee Websites

    http://ECat.com - N. Europe licensee site story

    http://www.ampenergo.com

    http://www.eonsrl.com – under construction

    Unofficial Websites

    http://Leonardo-ECat.com - website launched 11.11.11 See Sterling Allan on the up and down of Rossi's approval of Leonardo-ECat.com (November 15, 2011)

    http://hydrofusion.com/ - behind ECat.com

    http://ecatnow.com/ (RSS aggregate from all over)

    http://ecatnews.com/

    http://www.e-catworld.com/

    http://ecatfusion.com/

    http://ecatreport.com/

    http://coldfusion3.com/

    http://energycatalyzer3.com/

    http://rossifocardifusion.com/

    http://nickelpower.org/

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    This is a response to a post on another thread, here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post466869

    Hi Limor:

    I write plenty on our encounters with Godzilla, both the undeniable ones and the maybes.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post400492

    It is hard to tell the provocateurs from the standard-issue sharks.

    On Rossi, or anybody like him, the first question is if he is really a threat. Godzilla does not get involved unless they really have something. You really can’t hide anything from him, but plenty of fools think they can. Rossi may not be a threat, and even may be an intentional misdirection. Not that Rossi himself is necessarily being dishonest, but he can be used to stir up discord and run people off in the wrong direction, like some kind of Pied Piper. The fact that his gizmo puts out so little energy is odd. Not many people are going to want to buy one to meet one-sixth of their household needs, but they will buy as many as they need to go off the grid. That is where the big demand will be. I really find it hard to believe that he is being allowed to get seemingly close to market if he has something like he represents. So, I know that there is infinitely more happening than meets the eye, but just what all this is, I don’t know and don’t much care, either.

    But let’s assume that on his end, he is doing it just like he says, with a gizmo that will work as advertised. If so, Godzilla has been aware of him for a long time. It is possible that low level attempts to derail him have been made, and there are many ways to do that, from aiming people at him who may clash with him, to subtle sabotage, to other tricks, and their bag is large. If Rossi is legit, some of that has already happened. If he is legit, he likely had to first deal with the local interests, and all of his “allies” that have either tried to steal his stuff or are waiting for the opportunity to arise. If Rossi is legit, he can tell many stories of what he had to survive to get as far as he has.

    Again, Dennis played beyond where Rossi is long ago, when he took the stuff directly to market, not under the aegis of a large corporation:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    Until that time, he mostly had to deal with the mafia muscling in or his “allies” stealing his business, or the local oligarchy trying to wipe him out. In Seattle, the first undoubted Godzilla agent got involved, and he killed one of Dennis’s employees:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

    If Rossi is legit, and Godzilla his not using him somehow, he likely has some people like that hit man biding their time in his organization until they can strike when an attack from the outside comes. The inside-outside job can be highly effective, and I lived through a couple of those with Dennis.

    If those kinds of activities don’t sideline Rossi, then other avenues will. That Rossi is applying for patents is a huge red flag, as far as him really getting anywhere. The entire patent route is a dead end for anything good. They will never grant a patent for something that defies the “laws of physics,” unless they allow a patent and then immediately seize it using national securities laws. Adam lost three of his technologies that way, as have thousands of others. Godzilla can inspire the seizure, but the T-Rexes and velociraptors can, too. Taking disruptive energy technology to the patent office is just like walking into the dragon’s lair.

    Again, if Rossi is legit, he has received friendly buyout offers and other bait. That is when Godzilla is playing the suave game. If Rossi is legit and Godzilla intends to stop him and his low-level activities have not produced the desired result, then the bad stuff starts to happen. It can begin with the authorities hounding him, often for “fraud.” It can begin with death threats. Then members of his family might end up behind bars for imagined offences. Friends will be enticed to betray him, and few can resist that bait. The people luring friends, family and business associates into betrayal are very good at what they do, like Mr. Texas was:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#texas

    If Rossi survives that stuff, then they can begin to get violent. It is rarely the kind of open murder that Mallove experienced:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

    but more likely a “heart attack,” sudden bout with cancer, “accident,” and other misfortune that can be plausibly chalked up to just good old bad luck.

    What I am writing is all from what I either directly experienced, or from trading notes with my relatively few fellow travelers. I write about all this stuff on my site in some depth:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

    But it really is only for people who haven’t figured it out yet. Once you begin to understand that Godzilla is alive and vigilant, if currently conflicted:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    you just treat Godzilla like a thunderstorm. You can’t negotiate with it and you can’t kill it. You just have to stay off of the high ground when it comes through. Godzilla would likely not be able to deal with ten thousand Level 12s scattered across the planet,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    which is what I am trying to amass.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Thank you again, Wade. this answer is more than I could hope for, and it makes it much more clear, although you have already repeated it multiple times.
    I reckon there is no other way but to read your thread thoroughly and to delve into your website to get the entire scope of the labour pains in this birth process of FE on our earth, what is FE and what are we missing by not using it properly, or being aware to it. I guess for some reason I am somewhat familiarized with 'energy' and its abundant of expressions from the subtle notions of the everyday life, maybe being an observer rather than a participant in this life, is paying off somehow, the small nuances are the key, It will be an enriching experience wich I look forword to.

    More relevently, according to what is written about Rossi's history, there's certainly appears to be a mismatch of happenings in his life, he was involved in an unsuccessful garbage-burning system that according to him could produce Liquid fuels, he was sued 56 times, he had to exile from Italy and find refuge in the US ( ha, out of the frying pan into the fire..) , he signs an agreement to collaborate with large companies on the market and passes his devices to the scrutiny of governmental scientists, so, from what I am beginning to learn, I can understand how this progressing is done in and out or within godzila's mouth.

    A passing though: It could be interesting to see the list of patents that 'defies the laws of physics', if there is any in this world, but, it could be even better to see the list of the 'real' laws of physics

    I appreciate Wade's patience. owning a very slow reading ability, I assume I will meet Wade's thread again in about two years time..


    Blessings,

    Limor
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    Hi Limor:

    Yes, it takes plenty of effort to get up to speed on this stuff, in its many facets. This has been a lifetime project of mine. I played on the high road to FE and got my head handed to me. But, without those radicalizing experiences, I would not have woken up to how the world really works, or at least how it doesn’t work.

    Breaking through all of the illusions, lies and other tricks of the societal managers, both those who know exactly what they are doing and those who just color-by-numbers in the only class they know, is no easy trick. It took me many years to see what those seemingly disparate aspects had in common: the addiction to scarcity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    the victim-orientation:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

    the denial of many aspects of how our world really works, and so on. Fear is the problem, and love is the answer. But in a world of scarcity and fear, manifesting our hearts is no easy trick.

    People like Rossi may be legit. On the surface, his journey can seem like Dennis’s, and even some of his strategies. Dennis is the greatest human that I ever met, whose journey is truly unbelievable:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    But, unless you are there, it is not easy to see past the circus, disinformation, and so on. I wish Dennis the best, but I don’t want to be scorched by the dragon again, and I know that almost nobody can survive the experience. I want to live on Heaven on Earth, but there is a big hump of humanity’s inertia and organized suppression of the means to get there that stands in the way. I am still trying, but in a way that does not risk the lives of the aspirants. If Rossi is legit, for instance, he and those close to him are risking their lives. I am not dead so I can’t say for sure, but those who died when Godzilla got involved may have gotten off easier than those who were merely maimed. I will be picking up the pieces of my shattered life for the rest of my earthy days.

    When gung-hoers announce what they are going to do about Godzilla and the other predators, it reminds me of eighteen-year-old cannon fodder:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

    and I don’t want to watch as they sally forth.

    I have a long weekend ahead of me. If you have more questions, I will be here.

    Best,

    Wade
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    I hope the crowd here can give comments on these talks. I hope the links are available and working for all.
    A good friend send me these links. These are talks regarding Low Energy Nuclear Transmutations, there are two talks.
    One is theoretical (why this is actually possible, pure physics...hamiltonian's etc) and the other is experimental. The talks are both given by scientists at CERN.
    For newer people Low Energy Nuclear Transmutations just means or is equivalent to cold fusion as it was known in the beginning.
    The links are from the CERN Document Server.

    The English of the speakers is not the best but still its good enough.
    Experimental http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433866
    Theory http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433865

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    There is a London meet up, arranged to bring this sort of thing to the table.
    With the view to create small groups, every where to share skills, and develop whatever we can that is supportive to the whole.
    This is a starting point.
    11-am, 5th, May 2012.

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    Hi:

    Here is more on why I am not interested in the inventor path to FE these days, which I wrote a little about here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post487159

    Nikola Tesla invented the alternating current technology that powers the world today:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla

    His royalty deal would have made him one of the world’s richest men, but he had to give up his royalties to survive the battle with Edison, who was kind of an inventor in name only, with the teams working for him doing most of the work. Tesla is a prime example of an inventor getting the shaft. When he began pursuing free energy by tapping the electric potential in the atmosphere, robber baron J.P. Morgan pulled the rug out from under him. It would not do to have energy freely available, especially when Morgan was heavily invested in copper, which would largely become useless from Morgan’s perspective if nobody needed any transmission lines. The central power plant idea was enforced long ago in the interest of maintaining capitalistic empires, not because that was the best way to do it. Similarly to the germ theory of disease and attack-the-tumor cancer “treatment,”

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket

    the paradigms are maintained because of how they can be used to amass wealth and power, not because they are particularly helpful to humanity or Earth. But, those paradigms only work because the masses give their power away to “experts,” and refuse to take responsibility for their lives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lemmings

    On the FE scene, innumerable inventors and scientists have been sacrificed on the altar of greed and power. Henry Moray was another early example. Franklin Roosevelt even ordered the Rural Electrification Administration to work with Moray to provide FE to farms. That was back in the 1930s, long before I was born. Moray eventually had gunfights in his labs with assailants.

    During World War II and immediately afterward, humanity took technological leaps forward, and there is a great deal of controversy over those days. Making nuclear weapons and dropping them on civilians:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dropping

    and the Nazis’ unspeakable death factories were defining bookends of World War II, and the Roswell crash:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#big

    the invention of semiconductors, the founding of the CIA, NSA and the USA’s national security state, pouring a brain-damaging industrial waste into the water supply as “medicine,”

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm#compulsory

    and so on, while promoting the health benefits of cigarettes:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#cigarettes

    were all part of those strange times. When great men appeared on the scene with incredible new technologies and the means for unprecedented healing, they were invariably wiped out:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

    by the racketeers. The suppression of cancer cures is total in the USA, and even when some escape the country, the USA kidnaps them from abroad and throws them into prison:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#keller

    http://www.cancersolutions.org/2009/...stand-now.html

    On the FE front, there have been many public demonstrations of prototypes. Moray, Edwin Gray, Adam Trombly, Troy Reed and many others have demonstrated working prototypes, with Adam doing it in downtown Manhattan and speaking at the United Nations about it. There are clips from thirty years ago, of Adam speaking about the physics behind FE:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=vHuLCSOKV4Y

    Not only did the authorities strip his lab to the walls one day, seizing many millions of dollars of equipment, but he has survived about twenty murder attempts since his demonstration in Manhattan:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=7_CZHaIUiNI

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Nnd1Wuu-NuI

    Former housewife Hazel Henderson, bizarrely named the technology czar of the American government, once told Adam that whatever he came up with, she would suppress. The USA’s federal government has seized three of Adam’s technologies using the national security laws. Adam’s life story is truly hard to believe, but so is Dennis’s, but I lived through the most unbelievable parts of his adventure with him as his spear carrier, so I can vouch for the truth of the events, although the media, the “skeptics,” his “allies” in the field and various newbies can do nothing but lie about those days:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#libel

    Virtually nobody in the world today has what it takes to pursue FE, and I have looked. They suffer from naïveté, greed, delusions of grandeur, and many other foibles. When Real McCoys like Adam and Dennis appear on the scene, they are harshly dealt with. Many of them take a holistic approach, and FE is often joined at the hip with health cures. Those are the two areas that have the fiercest organized suppression that I am aware of. They use the carrots before they bring out the stick with FE, but in the medical racket, it is almost strictly the stick. Tom Bearden was into FE and alternative health technologies, and he studied Rife’s work and that of similar disease cure pioneers. They all got suppressed or wiped out, in standard fashion.

    Coming with FE are usually alternative physics models, from Adam to Bearden to Sweet:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    There have been countless others that nobody has heard of, as Godzilla put the golden handcuffs on them:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

    Dennis only encountered Godzilla after years and years of being chewed on by the lower-level predators:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

    There have been numerous efforts to catalogue the snuff jobs and inventors, and the list is long:

    http://www.rexresearch.com/invnindx.htm

    http://sites.google.com/site/energyresearchlinks/

    http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Inventors

    and those lists only scratch the surface. Most of the good stuff you never hear about, and it sits in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard today.

    So, when a Rossi, Keshe, Steorn and the other inventors of the hour appear on the scene, what quality do they think they have that the others did not? What battle-tested army do they have at their disposal? They seem to be entirely oblivious to that long and grim honor roll, or they think that they have some special virtue that will see them succeed where all others have failed. I don’t see what their special virtue is.

    But, nearly the entire FE milieu is wrapped up in the tinkerer paradigm, and newbies want to go watch the horseraces and cheer or boo. You can see those newbie posts all over my threads, asking if this or that inventor “has it!” They have yet to realize that it does not even matter. The problem is not on the inventor side – not at all. Taking an FE prototype to production-ready status will take at least $100 million, the kind of funding that no FE inventor has ever had access to. And if they ever do, they certainly can’t do it under the radar, which is another delusion that newbies need to shed, and pronto. Nobody can sneak past Godzilla, and it is suicidal to even try. Young Warriors think that they can defeat Godzilla in battle, such are their adolescent fantasies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

    Unlike every virtually FE inventor and tinker that ever lived, Dennis actually had the experience of putting disruptive energy technology on the market, several times, and oh what a learning experience that was:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

    What he did in Seattle likely stands as the greatest attempt ever made to bring alternative energy technology to the marketplace:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    and amazing lessons were learned, lessons that are totally lost on the tinkerer crowd. We eventually began to sign the FE song:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#pursuit

    and that was when Godzilla got involved. A billion dollar bribe was only a small portion of what got visited on us over the years:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

    We were subjected to a huge sting operation in the 1990s:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

    and every few years there is a national TV show that smears Dennis, featuring a leading “skeptic” who only knows how to lie about Dennis:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

    and has made a career out of his lies. He is probably on the payroll, but it would be more psychologically interesting if he was not, to study how deep-seated delusions send people to the dark side more than evil-minded intentions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

    Lone inventors, and even some organizations that have been around, some of which I was a key member of, do not have a prayer of bringing the FE pig to market in the current environment. The collective tally is about zero-for-fifty-thousand. What is wrong with that picture? Why do tinkerers think they have a prayer with that history? What comes to mind is ignorance, naïveté and ego. I really don’t want to pick on Keshe, Rossi, Steorn and the like. We all start out naïve in this field. But I am simply bombarded with the aspirant of the hour, as newbies get all star struck.

    I don’t know why I do it, but when I get bombarded enough times, I sometimes take a look, and immediately, many red flags go up, and it was no different when I looked at Keshe’s stuff.

    At one time, he downplayed organized suppression, giving some platitude about humanity not being ready for it. When I heard that, it screamed naïve inventor. Another common dynamic is that some discovery or invention gets touted as the solution to all of the world’s problems. Brown’s Gas was that way. If you surf the Internet, you will see some list of about thirty applications that BG could be used for. Realistically, the applications were only a few, with its ability to transmute elements the most interesting, and I spoke at DOE hearings about it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

    But even calling it Brown’s Gas reflected the inventor’s ego, and Yull had a big one. Unfortunately, the practice of science has encouraged that, with most scientists hoping to become immortal by having some effects that they discover named after them. That entire enterprise, and vying for Nobel Prizes, reeks of egocentrism, and is one of the big downsides. Fischer named his cycle the Fischer Cycle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#fischer

    714X is named after Gaston Naessens’s initials:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

    but at least he and Rife did not name their microscopes after themselves. So, when I saw “The Keshe Foundation,” a little flag went up. When I saw Keshe boast that his non-existent craft are way ahead of the American programs, he seems oblivious to the above-top-secret stuff. When he argued about the need to keep paying taxes, it struck me as pretty blinkered. He has made a number of announcements of demonstrating his technologies, but they never happened. Instead, he plays with Coke bottles. I am not saying that he does not have anything, but selling tickets to the moon raises big red flags. Is he naïve enough to think that he would be allowed to under the current regime? He may say that he might be willing to give it away, but on his site’s home page is this:

    “By the further consulting of this web site about new plasma reactor technology you confirm to be aware of the intellectual rights of Mr. M.T. Keshe, and be aware that international patents are filed for this technology. You confirm that you will respect these rights as far as they are original.”

    When Godzilla sees an inventor applying for a patent, it is already game over. That is the easiest route to derail, and the inventor has also announced that he is in it for the money. It is easy, easy, easy to stop that approach.

    Keshe takes in money for deposits on his still undemonstrated technologies, while saying that they do not need the money, but they are looking for free web mastering help on their home page. The so-called “foundation” is a shoe-string operation, just like the rest of them. I have played the “Let’s try to look more formidable than we really are” game, to try to keep the sledgehammer at bay and give people confidence, and Dennis is the master of those games, and I refuse to play them anymore. But that kind of rhetoric rings loudly when I have read Keshe’s interviews. The international intrigue problems that he had were likely not part of Godzilla’s bag of tricks, but national level stuff.

    I’ll give Keshe the benefit of the doubt and dismiss all of those red flags. Let’s say he has the best of intentions and is as humble as a worm and his undemonstrated technologies work as advertised. Unless he has a battle-tested army behind him and Godzilla somehow died in his sleep, he has no chance, or at least none better than the 50,000 who have come before him. When he starts fielding billion dollar bribes and being targeted by murder attempts, then he is going to start reaching the Big Time, but I really don’t like watching the inventors of the hour sallying forth, thinking that they will scale the ramparts where 50,000 before them have failed.

    Time to do chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    I’ll give Keshe the benefit of the doubt and dismiss all of those red flags. Let’s say he has the best of intentions and is as humble as a worm and his undemonstrated technologies work as advertised. Unless he has a battle-tested army behind him and Godzilla somehow died in his sleep, he has no chance, or at least none better than the 50,000 who have come before him. When he starts fielding billion dollar bribes and being targeted by murder attempts, then he is going to start reaching the Big Time, but I really don’t like watching the inventors of the hour sallying forth, thinking that they will scale the ramparts where 50,000 before them have failed.
    Hi Wade

    As I wrote to you (PM), the very fact that you put Steorn and Rossi (whom I both followed extensively, and appreciate to an extent) in the same bag as Keshe shows you haven't done your homework regarding the theoretical background and depth of views, and a fortiori that you haven't read the books (at least one). OK, I don't blame you, there's just 24 h in a day. But jumping to conclusions and labeling Keshe the 50'000nth inventor of an over-unity machine is misleading. In fact to me, it’s non-sense.

    To get a small feeling of what’s at stake here, anyone should at least take the time to watch these 5 short (5 min) videos, and probably better twice than once.
    http://keshefoundation.com/en/media-...-presentations

    At least you're giving him the benefits of the doubt.

    That’s a good start.
    About bribery. What if he was incorruptible?
    About the knowledge. What if he had already secured his knowledge? At least, that's what I heard him saying during a talk at his Foundation: whether alive or death, the knowledge will get out.
    To the question why he doesn't mention blacks ops, what if it was merely political?

    One last thing: when you mention "undemonstrated technologies", I have a feeling you haven't read his 2010 CO2 paper (producing liquid & solid CO2 at room temperature and atmospheric pressure)

    www.keshefoundation.com/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf

    On a constructive note, I will try in the coming weeks to convey Merhan Keshe a short report with key advices on how to improve his project in terms of communication (yes, obviously, the release of his generator would change things radically, but we aren’t there yet). If beyond what you have quicly dropped in this post you have anything constructive to add based on your extended experience in the field – and(!) feel like doing it given all you already have said regarding your non-interest in this route – I'd appreciate.

    Thanks,
    Best
    Jean-Luc

    P.S. Overview of Keshe’s communications on his forum 2009-2012 (PDF 222 pages)
    http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Overview_...10-05-2012.pdf


    PPS. QUOTE "But, nearly the entire FE milieu is wrapped up in the tinkerer paradigm,..."
    By no means is Keshe in there. Not only does he refute the very term FE. More, in case things are confirmed, it might well turn up that Keshe is the Einstein of our time, with vastly larger consequences in terms of day to day applications for Humanity. Whether the GC like it or not. By the way, we are not that far from Gamble's Thrive movie with respect to the torus. Although, that was just scratching the surface.
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    Hi Jean-Luc:

    You are right; I am not interested in the inventor approach, and I think I made it clear why. Please put further Keshe posts on this thread or another one, but please don’t put it on my main thread.

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    Hi Wade

    Whatever the shortcomings of Keshe's communications, I think you have a misrepresentation of what he is.... and what he represents.

    Definitely much more than a mere inventor.

    Here's Merhan Keshe's today's post on his forum:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post488192

    I would recommend any open minded person reading this to keep a very close eye on this developping story.

    Best
    Jean-Luc



    Quote Short excerpts :

    (1)
    "We transfer knowledge and technology to governments and you ask for your rights, and this way all nations will move together and societies will support all their members, be this a village or a country on the blue planet.

    To start with, it will be difficult to put aside the old habits of the abusers, but once you ask, then they will listen and they will let you know that they will be and are with you.

    As even governments are members of the human race and they are someone’s brothers and fathers, we have to show the path of brotherhood regardless of the title on the door of the building and the office."



    (2)

    "At the same time, since the universal community has for a long time accepted a universal peace treaty, man with his warmongering attitude will become a burden on the community that has left man on earth as a scourge of creation.

    In the universal community these acts of war cannot be done and man from now on has to learn that wars for possessions are only due to the short sightedness of man himself, as the universe will provide everything that all creatures in the universe need without conflict or any need to fight to attain them.

    As the greed for control and kingship has become the habit of man, even for this behavior there are safety processes which have been put in position. Man’s thoughts are based on magnetic information transfer and they can be understood and detected. Now the action of these feeble abusers under the childish name of leadership and kingship has come to an end, even though they think they have other ways to abuse their fellow men. Let them try and they will be shown and will taste the harshness of it by feedback through their own insignificant beings."




    (3)
    "Thus, the Foundation in sharing its knowledge is not only set to change the life of man on earth, but we are making sure that we set up the correct path for the entry of man into the universal community, which has been aware of this existence from the time of its inception.

    But man has been so immature that he has been left in the womb of the earth until he matures enough to be ready to join the universal family, and as we see the time has arrived for such a reunion.

    If we show you now what we know, you all will do two things: deny it and ridicule it as you do not have the understanding and intelligence to comprehend what is to come soon, as each creation can only accept according to its own level of intelligence and no more. Or you become part of it, to carry the others so that we all can enjoy a safe reunion.

    Oh men of ignorance, with what language shall I speak that all will carry the love of the creator and beware of harming others and yourself.

    I hope that you will be wise enough and learn from the mistakes of the past so that you will be able to carry this cup of knowledge and peace with you into the new realm of creation.

    A child cries to his father to let him handle and play with fire, but the father knows that unless he teaches him the safe way to start and to control the fire, then the child can harm himself and others with his actions, by being fascinated with the beauty of its light and warmth of its flame.

    Now children of mankind are at this moment at the same critical point in the cycle of evolution and in the same position as the child, grown-up enough so that they like to handle and play with the beauty of the light of the Creator and see and enjoy what it can bring, but at this moment of time not mature enough to know how it should be handled and played with so that its powers do not harm them and their father, and so the child cannot by mishandling of the light burn down his own house which the father has worked so hard to build and maintain.

    In the same way we cannot do anything less than protect the curious child until the time of full reunion.

    Men of wisdom understand the meaning of what is written above and it does not matter how much they cry to learn the language of peace and equality.

    Our knowledge is yours and we see you getting ready to step out and to leave the womb of the earth’s atmosphere and become the infant of the universe and enjoy the first fruits of the nursery of its knowledge.

    Blessed are those souls who have understood the true meaning of what has been said above and understand the beauty of what is waiting for the children of Adam in the concourse of the universe."
    Full text here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post488192
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    Tesla's findings can be used in an unplesent utilization, where it comes to our world of duality

    The tesla gun

    But we are aiming to raise and rise the human race, not to manslaughter it.


    - Jean-Luc, I admire your passion, your willingness to make a change in the world And your investigative mind. There are many ways to look at any one problem, there are many layers to it and so there are as many different solutions to be offered. If we all follow what we believe and understand, and are willing to stay open minded, than that is a part of this great university called life on earth. I would add that, if we can learn from the lessons of an honest one who already walked the path, than we are wise people indeed

    Quote “When two texts, or two assertions, perhaps two ideas, are in contradiction, be ready to reconcile them rather than cancel one by the other; regard them as two different facets, or two successive stages, of the same reality, a reality convincingly human just because it is complex.”

    ~ Marguerite Yourcenar (American writer, Beligian born :)

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    Free energy could be had for all relatively quickly and easily. If and when the world is allowed to pursue free energy, Professor Searle's design can be incorporated into existing transmission stations. The dynamos that generate electricity would need to be re-designed. That's it. Existing transmission lines and infrastructure could remain intact. For the cost of probably under $100 per person to do the retrofit/re-design, free electricity could be generated right now.

    It is really that easy. Once the new dynamos were powered up, they would literally run forever without using any fuel.

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    Message from Merhan Keshe, posted May 30
    http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb...hp?f=10&t=2506

    Quote In line with our programs and the opening of the Keshe Foundation research and development program, the Foundation has set out to prepare and publish 4 new books in PDF form.

    These books are based on the published and unpublished patents of the Foundation and will become the core books for the Institute’s teaching. From now we will be teaching the full technology to those who we think are ready to learn and to add to the resources of mankind.

    These books will be published in the coming months and will be made available free of charge in PDF format so that everybody on earth will have access to this knowledge at the same time. The hardback copy will be the same price as other books on the site.

    Through our seminars we have learned that there are very many people who would like to be a student of the Foundation, and who are all from different technologies and disciplines. Therefore we are preparing to launch our worldwide direct teaching in the coming months.

    Through our experience we have decided to bring old and new together so that people can understand the new technology and its connection and relationship with the knowledge of the past.

    To this effect the Foundation is inviting world leading scientists to give a one-day conference on the old technology and it’s parallel with the new technology from the Foundation, which will be explained and taught on the same occasion.

    Conference topics for example will be Tesla and his magnetic field theory and system, and the Keshe Foundation Magravs systems.

    Leading scientists in MS and psychologists, doctors in different disciplines, energy scientists and plasma technology specialists and so forth will be invited in the coming months to give lectures at the Center.

    The first of these one-day seminars to inaugurate the Keshe Foundation Institute teaching program will be held in September in the Foundation Center in Belgium. Our first guest lecturer will be Professor Konstantin Meyl, the eminent world renowned scientist in Tesla systems and the founder of the Scalar Waves.

    This lecture will take place on Friday 21 September 2012 from 10am to 5pm. The schedule of the seminar will be published on the calendar of events next week.

    There are only 100 seats available for this seminar but it will be taped and be added to the Foundation website as part of our teaching program latter on. We are ready to launch our technology on an international basis and we plan to have the seminar on livestream so that scientists around the world can participate. This will be by subscription only.

    We are here to make a change and I hope that by then we will carry the governments with us.
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    Hi Wade,

    Some many years ago I developed a magnetic field model that proposed that Faraday's lines of force and our string theorists requirement for multiple dimensions - could all be resolved if one proposed a particle in a magnetic field. This essentially resolved itself as the Higgs Boson and led to multiple reconciliations in outstanding paradoxes within the Standard Model. I have no intention of justifying that thesis here. However the implications may intrigue you. Effectively we have NOT discovered anything at all. We have simply married two diverse branches of physics being String Theory and Quantum physics - through Einstein's remarkable proposals related to relativity. However, we moved away from his foundational proposal that nothing can exceed light speed. And we proposed a material property to a magnetic field.

    To prove this we applied these concepts to the movement of current in a simple switching circuit. The results were conclusive. We were 'recycling' charge - as predicted by that model. Which also meant that we had proved that energy is, indeed FREE - and, under conventional or standard productions - sadly wasteful and, indeed prodigal. With this proof we fractured the myth promoted by Kirchhoff's unity requirement.

    But critical to this is something that is REQUIRED to be understood. We have discovered nothing. Switching circuits are well known - Einsteins theories - String theories - even the God Particle theory are shown to be absolutely correct. Also correct are the claims of our astrophysicists who require Dark Matter from Dark energy which is seen as a 5th Force. I've said it before, this force is foundational to all the forces but, like a 5th column - is well hidden. It can only be inferred.

    We have managed to publish papers on this but have, nonetheless, been entirely unable to bring this into focus within our academies. Possibly because funding this research - which is required - is withheld by our energy suppliers. And our efforts to bring this into focus on open source forums - such as this - have failed by virtue of an orchestrated attack that beggars belief. It is directed at me personally and anyone who speaks out in support of the evidence.

    I started my own forum in the hopes of salvaging this information. But I realise now that nothing that I put forward is likely to avoid that onslaught of traducement and invective. This is notwithstanding the simple truths that the papers reveal - and notwithstanding the evidence that we are none of us looking for money - fame - personal recognition. Our ONLY hope is that this knowledge will somehow survive.

    So - tell me. How is it possible to promote anything new or even beneficial to mankind - with this as the INEVITABLE consequence? I read in this forum the fond hope that we're in 'changing times'. Indeed we are. We're advancing towards chaos as a result of manifold theories that are developed everywhere without a single effort at cohesion with known physics. And if our experience is anything to go by - then those paradigms are unlikely to move even marginally - towards this.

    So. Let me know. I'm unqualified - so in terms of your own categorisation I'm a 'tinkerer'. But indeed I'd prefer to call myself an amateur - in the true sense of the word being that I love physics.

    This is NOT a rant. I, we all need some advice.

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    Hi Wade, there are people already off the grid with FE - via primarily solar and wind with cars running on something other than petrol. A pig farmer in OZ has turned his $25k per month power bill into a $5k a month credit from the power compaies (via methane)

    Are you able to advise the easiest, cheapest and most effecient way to go about getting off the grid? (notice I put "easiest" first..........there is a reson for that - other than pig wee is a little tricky obtaining in a big city) A technician I am not.

    Perhaps you know of someone we might be able follow or support? If we stay low key and spread the word at grass roots ourselves we could make the change - providing we had the right connections to start with.

    Happy to hear your thoughts

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    I have this image of a ladder. Solar/wind power are a step up from using fossil fuels for power (still using natural resources, and who know what the consequences of that are, but not as polluting to air, water and soil). Many of these energy inventions fit into the same category. Across the world individuals and small organisations are following this route. Most people are not self-empowered enough to do so and so what is being done is not enough to take us all up just one step of that ladder.

    My simplistic, but perhaps mistaken, understanding of the message that Wade is trying to spread involves a giant leap up the ladder for all of humankind.

    Godzilla is about money. We wouldn't be using fossil fuels in such an established and co-ordinated way today if a group of people did not see how by making this so they could make lots of money and gain lots of power.

    of energy inventions.

    PS I have worked in book publishing for many years and the topic of this thread has the makings of a great book (as does the thread by Wade Frazier)!
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    Hi:

    I had some ancillary threads made so that people could pursue those discussions, partly because they are not really areas of great interest for me, I am not very qualified to weigh in on them, or they are not going to help what I am trying to get going. This is one of those threads. I made a post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post599559 ) on my main thread that addressed, in a tangential way, this post:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post582954

    I am just not going to be much help on that subject.

    Sorry!

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