Bill Ryan visits James Gilliland's ECETI Ranch

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's a free download link:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_J...2_May_2012.mp3

[astrid]

Cool , thanks Bill !!

[wynderer]

i posted this on the 'Up at the Ranch' thread -- since there is a lot ofinterest in this thread, i thought maybe someone would have the answer to my question below :

i've been looking thru this thread & did some searching on James Gilliland -- can anyone tell me what he has to say about abductions & Reptilians? or does he say they are part of a Human mind control program?

hope someone answers this

[giovonni]

Greetings Avalonian's

First ~ Let me tell you all here what a delightful surprise it was yesterday upon hearing that Bill was coming up for a visit... And i must say and also empathize that Mr. Ryan is a gentleman and the real deal in every sense of the word... And please note ~ James and all of us here are quite stoked in having Bill share his wonderfully energized presence with us all ~ 'Up at the Ranch !

Sending you blessings and love always ~ Bill Ryan

From The Eceti Ranch Crew

[wynderer]

still hoping someone will answer....

Posted by wynderer (here)
i posted this on the 'Up at the Ranch' thread -- since there is a lot ofinterest in this thread, i thought maybe someone would have the answer to my question below :

i've been looking thru this thread & did some searching on James Gilliland -- can anyone tell me what he has to say about abductions & Reptilians? or does he say they are part of a Human mind control program?

hope someone answers this

[GoodETxSG]

PROOF/ There is HUMAN technology designed to modify or control certain weak minded people's actions, thoughts and behavior....

Speculation/Belief... this technology came from the only beings in space around us... the Reptilians and Grays... And there are no Good Guys (Alien Hippie AHoles) or other beings waiting for us to reach a certain spiritual level of responsibility to be worth stepping in to offer assistance against theses regressive lower vibration beings with scales or skinny long arms and fingers...

Dig deep in your belief/Spiritual/Alien/Esoteric/RELIGION and decide for yourself.... you are not going to find it in any "Wisdom" from ANY people that post on this site... dig deep within and connect to your higher self and it's connections to the creator GOD. Or live in your lizard controlled reality with no hope... It is up to you as to what it comes down to.

Those that KNOW they KNOW the cold blooded truth of the Lizy overlords that only deceive us to believe there is hope have had your say.

I want to hear from the rest of "HUMANITY"... not the hybrids, clones or "Personality Metamorphs" (Phrase I coined in my upcoming book in progress from the soldier/experiencer point of view being that of an Intell agent helping to misinform the masses."

But go ahead, which of the scenarios have your bought into? Many are curious to hear your convictions and self proclaimed truths...

Use your own mind and discernment, not the words or preachings of others on this or other sites... thruth is situational... what is your situation?

Scales, Lizards, sexual or mental invasions? Or the ones of light and love... GOOD or BAD are ones that the others have seen NO PROOF of existing? FOOD for thought... not pushing you one way or the other... THINK... PONDER... Meditate... come to your own conclusions... I dare you.

[AnthonyBacala]

Posted by wynderer (here)
still hoping someone will answer....

Posted by wynderer (here)
i posted this on the 'Up at the Ranch' thread -- since there is a lot ofinterest in this thread, i thought maybe someone would have the answer to my question below :

i've been looking thru this thread & did some searching on James Gilliland -- can anyone tell me what he has to say about abductions & Reptilians? or does he say they are part of a Human mind control program?

hope someone answers this

I am very interested in this question as well. Have you thought about directly posting this question to him, rather than wait for second hand accounts?

From the interviews I have seen, he is a very kind, honest man. I believe he would give an honest response, and who knows, he may even be okay with allowing that information to be posted (from the horse's mouth, as they say) on this forum.

EDIT: I just emailed him myself. However, I asked for his permission to post a reply and promised that if it was his choice, I would keep the information from his response private.

[Calz]

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
still hoping someone will answer....

Posted by wynderer (here)
i posted this on the 'Up at the Ranch' thread -- since there is a lot ofinterest in this thread, i thought maybe someone would have the answer to my question below :

i've been looking thru this thread & did some searching on James Gilliland -- can anyone tell me what he has to say about abductions & Reptilians? or does he say they are part of a Human mind control program?

hope someone answers this

I am very interested in this question as well. Have you thought about directly posting this question to him, rather than wait for second hand accounts?

From the interviews I have seen, he is a very kind, honest man. I believe he would give an honest response, and who know, he may even be okay with allowing that information to be posted (from the horse's mouth, as they say) on this forum.

Listen to the interview.

At around the 28 - 32 minute mark Bill poses a very similar question to James.

[wynderer]

bad quality audio on my computer -- couldn't hear it

i see i am not going to get an answer --have been debating whether to keep my mouth shut , & have decided not to

from what i gather, people go to the ranch to see UFOs bouncing around the sky, w/orbs coming close, & everyone has happy feelings --- hmmm....

the court case -- sounds to me like folks at the ranch don't know how to get along w/their country neighbors --
i was thinking of The Farm in Tennessee [before it got taken over by money-hungry yuppies]

all the country folk there [probably some were Baptists] , in 1971 watched a caravan of busses filled w/hippies come into their county, buy 3 acres of land, & settle in

the country folk were treated to the sight of naked hippies sitting in the pot growing field, playing gentle flute music to the plants so that they would give the tokers a Peace-ful high

also The Farm took in pregnant girls & children running away from abusive homes, so there were hordes of screaming half-naked [hot in Tennessee] children running around

but in time the local people accepted their hippie neighbors -- it probably helped that The Farm began to give food from their gardens to the local soup kitchens as soon as the first crops came in

the Ranch's country neighbors have likely observed a procession of expensive cars coming in & out of the Ranch, & have learned that people travel long distances to watch UFOs there, which i presume some of the neighbors can see also -- they likely think that's kind of weird, as i do

i have met some folks who went to the Ranch -- & i always think , 'So what? --so you saw UFOs & orbs came close & you had good feelings -- so what?'

after the Phoenix sightings, a lot of the witnessess suddenly got really interested in newagey spirituality

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
still hoping someone will answer....

Posted by wynderer (here)
i posted this on the 'Up at the Ranch' thread -- since there is a lot ofinterest in this thread, i thought maybe someone would have the answer to my question below :

i've been looking thru this thread & did some searching on James Gilliland -- can anyone tell me what he has to say about abductions & Reptilians? or does he say they are part of a Human mind control program?

hope someone answers this

I am very interested in this question as well. Have you thought about directly posting this question to him, rather than wait for second hand accounts?

From the interviews I have seen, he is a very kind, honest man. I believe he would give an honest response, and who know, he may even be okay with allowing that information to be posted (from the horse's mouth, as they say) on this forum.

Listen to the interview.

At around the 28 - 32 minute mark Bill poses a very similar question to James.

[AnthonyBacala]

Posted by wynderer (here)
still hoping someone will answer....

Posted by wynderer (here)
i posted this on the 'Up at the Ranch' thread -- since there is a lot ofinterest in this thread, i thought maybe someone would have the answer to my question below :

i've been looking thru this thread & did some searching on James Gilliland -- can anyone tell me what he has to say about abductions & Reptilians? or does he say they are part of a Human mind control program?

hope someone answers this

I emailed James last night and he promptly responded. Here was the email he sent back.

I have engaged some greys and reptillians, even some demonic creatures in the 4th dimension. Was not fun. Luckily I had extensive training in healing unseen negative influences and friends in high places. Learning to maintain ones self authority and heal unseen negative influences is a must. There are also faker spirits who gain access through flattery. Reptillians are masters at deception many are working with them unknowingly. Those who seek power over others, material wealth, fame etc. are easy targets. They own the first three chakras, survival, sex and power. Those operate from the 4th or heart chakra love and serve. They are not as subject to these influences. I find it best to work with higher dimensional beings who are loving and service oriented.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by wynderer (here)
the court case -- sounds to me like folks at the ranch don't know how to get along w/their country neighbors --

100% not the case. That's an unintelligent, crude assumption, based on nothing whatsoever, that does you no justice. You've never even been there, and you do not qualify to have an opinion.

James and his team are greatly liked and respected by the local community. James has been living in this small village for 25 years. The attack is political and is likely to have come from high levels, on orders. It's bureaucracy at its most vicious, irrational, and impersonal. James has responded in every proper, patient and courteous way and is now causing the dogs to back off.

Please do not post stuff like this which intentionally or unintentionally smears others, just because you have an axe to grind about the reptilian agenda. You will by now have read James' response (see the post above). He is grounded, balanced and sane. You should pay a visit sometime.

[transiten]

Interesting debate, seems like James and Bill are somewhere in between the perspective of David Wilcock. The "Venus alignment" James is talking about is probably the return of Venus across the surface of the Sun = the Venus Transit on June 5-6 depending on where you live. The first passage i watched on June 8 2004 from an observatiorium in Gothenburg.

The Mayans were avid followers of the Venus cycle and during these rare double Venus passages they there were upheavels in society, pple rose up against their opressors and communication speeded up. The Mayans also in periods planned their wars according to the Venus cycles and it's interesting to note that in Greek mythology Venus is the Goddess of Love as Evening star but the Goddess of war as Morningstar.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by transiten (here)
Interesting debate, seems like James and Bill are somewhere in between the perspective of David Wilcock.

James and I are 100% agreed that David Wilcock's hype about 'Drake' is based on zero evidence whatsoever. In James' words, "Show me just one high-level insider who's actually been arrested. Then I'll believe it."

James, like an increasing number of other researchers, is highly skeptical of the whole circus that has blown up about Wilcock's wishful claims on this and other issues.

[transiten]

What! This post just disappeared and I rewrote it and now it popped up again?

The hour that the ship comes in:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXn4njgCg-k

Can't believe it, is this a coverversion?

[transiten]

Yes Bill i know but these names were not mentioned. As i percieved it James said ET:s are assisting humanity in the effort to make "The beast collapse into itself" and that doesn't mean we are just sitting around waiting to be rescued. There are clearly two opposing views here on Avalon and we truly live in a 3D of opposites here on Earth. The difficulty is to contain/reconcile these opposites within without going schizophrenic something i'm constantly posting about.

I for one am not 100% sure of anything fighting a Lymedisease that makes me almost incapable of doing anything "big" out there at the moment and i wish i will recover so i can be fully functioning to assist with whatever is necessary for the peaceful development of humanity and "The hour that the ships come in"

[mountain_jim]

My thanks to Bill and James for this conversation, and convenient link above. I listened to first half last night, listening to 2nd hour now.

As Bill described James above, I find this conversation, subject matter, and participants:

grounded, balanced and sane

[wynderer]

AnthonyBacala's email from James answered my question -- pls understand that i am suspicious of folks involved in UFO stuff if they ignore or deny the reality of Reptilains & Greys, etc, & abductions

i'm glad to hear that my wondering if the peope at the ranch were not accepted by the local community was wrong -- but, w/the silence, my Irish imagination ran wild --

re the ax to grind -- i take it you yourself are not an abductee -- unkind words there yourself, Bill

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
the court case -- sounds to me like folks at the ranch don't know how to get along w/their country neighbors --

100% not the case. That's an unintelligent, crude assumption, based on nothing whatsoever, that does you no justice. You've never even been there, and you do not qualify to have an opinion.

James and his team are greatly liked and respected by the local community. James has been living in this small village for 25 years. The attack is political and is likely to have come from high levels, on orders. It's bureaucracy at its most vicious, irrational, and impersonal. James has responded in every proper, patient and courteous way and is now causing the dogs to back off.

Please do not post stuff like this which intentionally or unintentionally smears others, just because you have an axe to grind about the reptilian agenda. You will by now have read James' response (see the post above). He is grounded, balanced and sane. You should pay a visit sometime.

[AnthonyBacala]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by transiten (here)
Interesting debate, seems like James and Bill are somewhere in between the perspective of David Wilcock.

James and I are 100% agreed that David Wilcock's hype about 'Drake' is based on zero evidence whatsoever. In James' words, "Show me just one high-level insider who's actually been arrested. Then I'll believe it."

James, like an increasing number of other researchers, is highly skeptical of the whole circus that has blown up about Wilcock's wishful claims on this and other issues.

I agree, "circus" is the best description of these events. As I stated on the Horus Ra thread, my red flag was really raised this last week when I began having comments related to the negative side of the coin censored by the moderator. As I stated in a comment, which was also censored, I found it suspect that for someone constantly promoting, and hoping for, "disclosure" that they would censor any comments regarding negative ETs, abductions, etc.

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post485923

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
I just want to share some interesting information, especially after reading more from James Bartley's work on Reptilian hosts parading around in the UFO community. Now, I am not pointing fingers at this particular individual, I just find the recent series of events I am about to discuss rather suspect.

Last week, I posted on the Divine Cosmos website run by David Wilcock a theory that came to me recently.

Just a forewarning, this is slightly unrelated. However this article is dealing with the individuals running the world so this goes together, in a way.

I am a firm believer in positive extra-terrestrials, and consider myself a wanderer.

The other day, after going through various interviews and videos pertaining to the alien abductions that have affected millions worldwide, an idea popped into my mind.

The positive extraterrestrials have followed the rules of non-intervention and have only acted indirectly on humanity's behalf. David said a while back, "the rules have changed" citing evidence through the various millitarily offensive operations that have been thwarted globally.

While I agree there is a strong possibility that positive ETs have assisted in this manner, is it totally crazy to think that possibly, negative ETs have also done this over the years?

I only say this because the large body of evidence relating to unwilling abductions shows that the Service to Self, negative ETs clearly have had no regard to the "rules" and have continuously broke them for ages.

These negative ETs, some with ongoing partnerships/relationships with the shadow governmet also have ties to the Reptilians and the Archons, as referred to in the Gnostic codices found at Nag Hammadi.

These beings feed off of the chaos and disharmony they continuously manipulate a large portion of humanity into experiencing. This is a prime source of "life" energy for them.

I wonder if they would have the survival of humanity, at the moment, in their interest as well, being that they use so many humans for abductions, tests, their hybrid program, and so on. And not to mention the multitudes they feed off of from their negative energy they emit.

I'm not promoting "fear porn," I am only bringing facts into few and pondering a relationship we may have overlooked.

[Moderator: One of David's top insiders confirmed this is going on with negative entities -- and said that if people stopped being consumed by fear for even one day, worldwide, these entities would completely lose control of Earth and never be able to get it back.

Look at all the comments trying to discredit David and this message and you do the math.]

Upon the moderator's response, I replied,

Interesting point indeed, Moderator. I just noticed that David will be releasing further insight into Divine Intervention this upcoming Wednesday.

Any chance that he will address this information publicly?

Also, will he be providing insight into the darker side of the coin - the negative ET's and how they factor into what is taking place currently?

I believe we need to be aware of both aspects if we hope to make progress, for denying the existence of these negative forces does not negate the fact that they are occurring and affecting the majority of mankind, in some way, shape, or form.

Thank you for all that you do, both David and the Moderator. I appreciate your tireless dedication and devotion to bringing the dark towards the light.

It was funny that there was no reply to the following post. However, things got really interesting last night. After releasing the latest installment of "Divine Intervention" which naively focussed on all ETs being the good guys, which Bartley, Bartholic, and others have proven is NOT the case, I posted another comment.

Surprisingly, not only was this one not responded to, it was completely left out of the comments section. Instead, loads of other comments (nearly 100 in 24 hours) have been accepted, all of which praise David's work.

I cannot remember verbatim what this comment said, but it was along these lines...

"David, after the moderator admitted that negative ET's have also had some part in shutting down nuclear facilities and whatnot, will you please offer us your opinion on how they factor into everything.

Is it possible that we will never see disclosure, being that it would result in only more and more lies? Being that the government has been involved with the negative ET's, and have also participated in allowing abductions, pursuing MILABS, and the like, why would they reveal these secrets?

I am not promoting "fear porn" as you call it, I am simply stating facts. We need to be fully informed in order to release the fears of the unknown, and now is the time for you to release that information. What benefit does holding back on the negative side of things have for you?

What agenda are you promoting, and why do we never hear you discussing the Dracos, Reptilians, and Grays, as I am sure you are quite familiar with them?"

Now this is just a summary of what I said, but I am blown away that it is being completely surpressed from the comments board. After reading this forum, I have had my eyes opened to a multitude of lies that have been paraded in the New Age community. It is time we quit buying into the BS and search for the deeper meaning behind the actions of those we look up to in the alternative community, for, whether they know it or not, they may be being led down a tunnel that will swallow them and the millions of people following their every word--hook, line, and sinker.

Any thoughts?

I was even more taken back because this all began with the moderator admitting that David was aware that negative ETs also had involvement in shutting down nuclear facilities and the like, although he was tying this all in with "Divine Intervention" and making it out to be the result of 100% benevolent ET interaction with our planet...a little too much like Dr. Greer's approach.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by wynderer (here)
AnthonyBacala's email from James answered my question -- pls understand that i am suspicious of folks involved in UFO stuff if they ignore or deny the reality of Reptilains & Greys, etc, & abductions

i'm glad to hear that my wondering if the peope at the ranch were not accepted by the local community was wrong -- but, w/the silence, my Irish imagination ran wild --

re the ax to grind -- i take it you yourself are not an abductee -- unkind words there yourself, Bill

I am an abductee.

My point was that it was premature of you to have made the assumption about James' naivete -- and not okay to have criticized his relationship with the local community, which is nothing whatsoever to do with the reptilian agenda!

I appreciate that you are extremely sensitive and jumpy about this important issue. Don't make the understandable mistake of judging others by your standards. Not everyone is out to get you, and not everyone is uninformed and naive (as some are, and we both know that.)

You've made this mistake before: beware of alienating others unintentionally with your own passion to get to the truth of what happened to you personally. You need friends who understand you, and you may sometimes drive them away.

[AnthonyBacala]

Posted by wynderer (here)
AnthonyBacala's email from James answered my question -- pls understand that i am suspicious of folks involved in UFO stuff if they ignore or deny the reality of Reptilains & Greys, etc, & abductions

i'm glad to hear that my wondering if the peope at the ranch were not accepted by the local community was wrong -- but, w/the silence, my Irish imagination ran wild --

re the ax to grind -- i take it you yourself are not an abductee -- unkind words there yourself, Bill

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
the court case -- sounds to me like folks at the ranch don't know how to get along w/their country neighbors --

100% not the case. That's an unintelligent, crude assumption, based on nothing whatsoever, that does you no justice. You've never even been there, and you do not qualify to have an opinion.

James and his team are greatly liked and respected by the local community. James has been living in this small village for 25 years. The attack is political and is likely to have come from high levels, on orders. It's bureaucracy at its most vicious, irrational, and impersonal. James has responded in every proper, patient and courteous way and is now causing the dogs to back off.

Please do not post stuff like this which intentionally or unintentionally smears others, just because you have an axe to grind about the reptilian agenda. You will by now have read James' response (see the post above). He is grounded, balanced and sane. You should pay a visit sometime.

Wynderer, please review Bill's thread discussing his abduction experience, albeit from a past life, but still highly relevant. He was not being rude. http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...r-60-years-ago