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    to the OP: this is precisely why I still keep my skeptic side intact,
    as I don't want (and quite tired) to get all these high-hopes and imaginations and rainbow eyes,
    only to finally be crushed severely by the 'harsh, mundane Reality' again.
    I don't want that to happen again..

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    Quote Posted by Neptun (here)
    <snip>Regarding danish humor. It can be dark and bizarre. Lars von Trier also makes dark movies.

    You may know some Danes that don't have that type of humor. Not all Danes are the same.

    Get ready for a culture shock:
    <SNIP>
    Neptun,

    In case it has escaped you, this thread is about possibilities of what comes after any mass arrests. If you want to talk about Danish humor, start your own thread. Now, please stop disrupting this thread. Thank you.

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    <snip>Regarding danish humor. It can be dark and bizarre. Lars von Trier also makes dark movies.

    You may know some Danes that don't have that type of humor. Not all Danes are the same.

    Get ready for a culture shock:
    <SNIP>
    Neptun,

    In case it has escaped you, this thread is about possibilities of what comes after any mass arrests. If you want to talk about Danish humor, start your own thread. Now, please stop disrupting this thread. Thank you.
    I'm deeply sorry for having been naughty Fräulein!

    It will not happen again. I will obey the rules to the fullest!

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    Quote Posted by Snowbird (here)
    Our Earth is in the process of being transformed into a reality where duality no longer exists. Many of the elites however, continue to maintain and covet the negative energies while here on Earth and in the midst of the people of Earth. Many of these elites btw, stem from higher dimensional frequencies....not of love and compassion, but of power, control and excess. Love is definitely the key answer to this dilemma and will bring us up and out of this thick mire where we find ourselves. But what happens to those elites who continue to commit atrocities in the name of their masters off Earth? Should they simply be allowed to commit mayhem on an innocent people without any type of methods to prevent their heinous actions? Should they simply be allowed to bomb, rape, pillage, murder, steal, while we sit calmly with hands folded in lap and meditate or pray? Some of us say NO...enough is too much.

    We need justice for these but from the highest Source. A true healing justice for those who are ready and willing. But definitely justice.[/COLOR][/B]
    Hi Snowbird,
    Well thought out post. There are so many ways I can answer this, but I'm holding back because this can get really in depth and turn into a mile long post and I'm not sure this thread is the appropriate place to instill new information as it would carry itself better on its own. I almost need to start a separate thread....might do that once I get my thoughts collected and layed out in a manner which can be understood by all. Please understand that when I answer posts I'm not always just talking to the op, but to the audience as a whole. You may or may not have the same understanding as myself so don't think that my comments imply that you have no level of understanding. I think it's safe to assume that a lot of the Avalon members have a similar mind-set. I speak as I do because I realize there are thousands of people reading these posts who might not have the same level of understanding and I don't want to loose them.

    To somewhat answer your comments, I will say yes, the dark one's seem to continue on with their rampage and do need to be addressed, but I feel there are others out there that are contending to this matter both from this world and that of higher dimensions. Everyone in a sense is working collectively to solve this problem. I see people all the time playing out their different roles in society....they're all around us. You have Alex Jones, luv em or hate em, furiously working to wake people up, you have the Sheriff Mack's emerging across the country(in the U.S at least), you have the tea party organizations beating their drums, the militia groups standing and waiting, etc.....and a plethora of other individuals working towards the same goal. I can only imagine that similar efforts are going on in various countries around the world. All these people are stepping up to the plate in more ways than I've ever seen before. In a sense what's happening before your very eyes is a collective effort to turn things around. So to go back to the OP original title of this thread Mass Arrests, But What Then, well, ....we are the "what then's" if that makes sense, lol. Everyone has a different calling for the cause, we cannot all be doing the same thing or it wouldn't work. So I see a great many of us on this forum as the "what then's".

    For me personally, my lifeplan originally took me deep within the patriot movement, united with those who were trying to take a stance against tyranny which helped in my awakening, but it was ultimately not my final destination. I still watch with interest from afar, but my focus has turned to the core of the issue and that is higher consciousness and that is where I will take my place in the grand scheme of the Divine Plan. I no longer worry about the path of the dark one's; that job belongs to those who's passions and life plans follow down that timeline and maybe that's you or someone else reading this post. So I don't want to sound like I don't care as to what's taking place, but I'm putting faith into the hands of those who find that avenue to be their calling and counting on their souls to act accordingly as they are needed.

    One other thing.....you ever notice when watching the Powers That Were, as they are making their media appearances? Observe how they assume the roll of where they want this end game to be.....they don't wait for our approval, they just presume this is the direction we are headed regardless of whether "we" as a society want to move in that direction or not. What they are doing is controlling the collective consciousness by their actions. Well guess what?!! I say right back at ya dark one's! Which is why I no longer waste energy in endless conversations and arguments of what should be done, how it should be done, where it should be done and when it should be done, rather I choose to exert my efforts in the same role of assumption as they have mastered, with the difference being that my focus lies in the practice of what I can do as an "individual" to change my consciousness and help others who want to walk down that road. We need to assume that we are winning.......the science is there to prove the effectiveness of what I'm suggesting. We can no longer think as the little train that might...we need to think as the little train that did. This is how you change your reality. Assume the position, as the saying goes, lol.

    And if there comes a time when you think everything is going to come crashing down on our heads, don't you worry for one second.....because if you understand and learn the lessons that were needed in this lifetime, your future is golden as you are immortal beings. You know the saying, "there is nothing to fear, but the word fear itself." You are more powerful than you have been led to believe- get out of 3D and freedom will be your reward. There is no messiah coming to save us, those days are over.....the messiah is all ready here.....and it's in each and everyone of us. When we as individuals come to the understanding that we are all tied into the same Sourcefield, you will have the revelation that my discoveries are your discoveries and your discoveries are my discoveries which basically states that we are of the same energy field known as God or Source All That Is, leading one to the realization that I am you and you are me and we-R-one, and that is a beautiful thing.

    This is my truth that I share with you and this is the journey I have chosen to honor. I am not asking people to follow me, but rather walk beside me as an equal should they feel their life blueprint intertwines with mine.

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    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)
    <snip> We need to assume that we are winning.......the science is there to prove the effectiveness of what I'm suggesting. We can no longer think as the little train that might...we need to think as the little train that did. This is how you change your reality. Assume the position, as the saying goes, lol.

    <snip>
    This reminds me of a thought I had a few days ago: This grand change with mass arrests etc is going to happen because it has already happened. It's like that scene in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban at the end, when Harry and Hermione go 3 hours back in time, and at the end of the actual 3 hours, Harry can cast a Patronus because he knew he'd already done it. It's mind-bending, but at the same time, it makes perfect sense. This huge change of paradigm already HAS happened because of our consciousness and resulting actions on an unseen level. Now all it does is play out in this 3-D reality.

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    Yes, I think I get where you're going with this...we are living in the past currently. This same scenario has all ready been played out by other, more advanced civilizations. As we become one with the future, and reclaim our galactic standing, another place in this Universe or beyond will be constructed, if it hasn't been all ready, so that new souls and souls that still need the opportunity to evolve can have the same chance at experiencing the game of duality. This has been going on for eons of time and I don't see it ending any time soon. Earth is no longer going to host the lower dimensional mindsets as it has for so long. This is why I believe 2012 is different than any other time period. All indicators from scientific studies support that a shift is taking place where the magnetics are dropping and the frequency is increasing; the very thing needed for a rebirth, of a higher dimensional environment. The wave of energy that is headed towards Earth coming from the center of the galaxy is most likely playing a role in raising the conscious levels.

    Initially, everyone is cloaked with a veil of amnesia of some sorts; it's necessary in order to play the game. Because if you knew who you truly were and where you came from, you would no longer want to play. Some of us punch through that veil sooner than others and some never make it past the start gate, but all have value in the big scheme of things. For me, I have begun to awaken to the point where I'm having past life memories, which has given me an advantage because my sense of understanding and awareness have increased ten-fold. This is why I'm here to share my story. I want others to have the same advantage and relish in the fact that there is so much more awaiting them once they make the choice to awaken.

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    So true. It's probably also why many of us are completely lost when it comes to being competitive. Or other traits indigenous to 3D.

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    Ya no joke....when I really started to wake up, it was that uneasy feeling that I had been dropped down on a foreign world with no one around to guide me or even compare notes.

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    "Lonely are the brave and the just. But with them is the godhood."
    Sajaha prophecies.

    I guess feeling completely out of place, misplaced, displaced, lonely, alone is kind of normal for us. Yet, I wouldn't have it any other way.
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    That's the first thing that will change - you will not feel lonely anymore.
    You will feel like you belong and supported in your causes because you will learn that most people have the same causes themselves.
    And the best one of all, you will no longer fear speaking your truth as others will actually be listening...
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    Quote Posted by karelia (here)
    "Lonely are the brave and the just. But with them is the godhood."
    Sajaha prophecies.

    I guess feeling completely out of place, misplaced, displaced, lonely, alone is kind of normal for us. Yet, I wouldn't have it any other way.
    sigh....ya, me neither.

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    That's the first thing that will change - you will not feel lonely anymore.
    You will feel like you belong and supported in your causes because you will learn that most people have the same causes themselves.
    And the best one of all, you will no longer fear speaking your truth as others will actually be listening...
    I don't feel lonely. I think the key is to be open, honest and authentic and let people into our hearts.

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    As you can see there is a huge American and Danish difference. Danish humor has no political correctness at all and it has heavy irony and sarcasm and goes to the extreme.

    I probably ended on the terrorist for showing you guys this.

    Danes are probably the only ones on the planet that understand our humor.
    Thanks for posting the videos, Neptun! I'm still laughing! Outrageously funny.....
    (but I'm aware that I'm insane and have a very warped sense of humor) I know I have Dutch ancestors maybe some Danes are also in the mix.

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    RE Alex Jones: I want to clarify that I DO like the guy and I have felt (for many years) that he has performed an important and needed service is exposing a LOT of the OWO shenanigans. Really I do. I LIKE the guy.

    However, I have also witnessed -- and I live in the same town as Alex Jones where he has many followers -- that people who listen to him all the time often get BENT UP IN FEAR. It is unfortunate that Alex is not able to include in his message practical ways for people to deal with that fear. I know of one man who committed suicide because of such fear who was an avid listener of his. Several close acquaintances have also displayed a tendency not to believe ANYTHING good because they are so tied up in the fears they got from listening to Alex.

    I heard that David Wilcock said something like this (and I totally agree and this is paraphrasing): "I love Alex. I just wish he would tone it down a little. Well, a lot."
    Dang, I'm missed a bunch of these posts, can't keep up....You know I have listened to Alex quite a bit and I think he's great. He does serve a purpose and should be valued as such. I have often wished that he would address the spiritual end of things instead of leaving people in fear with no where to turn......but then I thought about it more and came to the conclusion that he is right on base for his calling in this lifetime. His gig is not the spiritual end; that part of it resides with someone like DW or Gregg Braden and the many others to handle. I think we often put our 3rd dimensional expectation spin on people which is....who's gonna be our messiah and do it all for a one stop shop convenience center, instead of allowing people to fill the roles they were intended to play. I appreciate all of DW's efforts, but kinda just wished a teensy bit that he would have remained in the spiritual /science end of it as that's where he shines.
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    As you can see there is a huge American and Danish difference. Danish humor has no political correctness at all and it has heavy irony and sarcasm and goes to the extreme.

    I probably ended on the terrorist for showing you guys this.

    Danes are probably the only ones on the planet that understand our humor.
    Thanks for posting the videos, Neptun! I'm still laughing! Outrageously funny.....
    (but I'm aware that I'm insane and have a very warped sense of humor) I know I have Dutch ancestors maybe some Danes are also in the mix.

    haha you are very rare to find political incorrect Danish humor funny. Show me a taboo and I show you Danish humor.

    It reminds me of a woman, that told me, she was accidentally trapped in a mans body. Maybe you are a Danish spirit, that is in an American body?

    I talked with an American movie guy living in Paris. I was impressed with his humor, that was great for an American. We talked about actors and he said he was looking for actors and actresses with fire in their eyes and if he didn't see it in the reel, then he would not be interested.

    I told him. Can't you train them to have fire in their eyes, like in "Black Swan" and he said "send him to Afghanistan with only a knife, for two years... that should do the trick"

    I laughed for days every-time, I thought about it.

    I better stop here, before the Fräulein gets mad at me again for writing about ÜBERVERBOTEN danish humor.

    Sorry. I will Obey!
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    Freedom reigns call has changed:
    Thurs 3-5pm PST Deatra (Drake too I am sure) and Sam Mugzzi - Free Thinking Radio

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    Like many of you, I've been following the information provided by but not limited to Wilcock, Drake and company. The investigation on Wilcock's part and others is a valiant effort but the details of how this financial transition unfolds feels pretty thin. Perhaps that's by design. I don't think all of the details of the arrests nor the accompanying changes is something we'd be privy to. Not now. For good reason.

    I certainly appreciate their efforts and countless others working to wake up the masses and create a more balanced playing field. However, the financial part, albeit an important one, is just one piece of the puzzle. There are so many other pieces that need to be addressed.

    In my opinion, the end goal is sovereignty. Personal sovereignty. To get from where we are to where we want to be is definitely a big step. A leap, if you will.

    I just can't help but feel that something altogether different is taking place. Something much grander in scale. The end of one cycle and the beginning of another. An opportunity. A cosmic transition.

    The question Karelia asks in the opening post is provocative: What now? What are the next steps? I've been a member of this forum for some time and for the first time it feels like we're entering a new place. A new "space."

    I don't doubt that challenging times are ahead. Transitions, by design, aren't always easy. However, I don't think the answers to the financial piece and more importantly our sovereignty will come entirely from these sources or even our current reality. I think the game is changing. I feel a new paradigm is starting to emerge.

    Please understand, this dosen't mean that I'm waiting for something or some group (even our friends in high places) to clean all of this up. I do believe we have friends in high places and I do think they've been assisting us but how we go through this transition is up to us.

    I believe we all decided, at some level, to come here and that we all came here with a different set of skills and experiences. The beauty, from my perspective, is how all of these pieces fit together. I believe that's what we've all come here (at this time) to experience: a transition. A collective transition. As the previous poster mentioned in beautiful detail (we-R-one), we are consciousness. That awareness is critical. Intuitively speaking, I feel the sun and the cosmos are also playing a key role.

    In the end, it's up to us. If we want to be freed - the first step is knowing you're enslaved. Getting that piece out there seems like an important step. My best guess is that this financial piece and the mass arrests are the first step in that direction. Where that all goes is up to us. Next steps? Taking a stand. Making conscious choices that don't support the current paradigm. Informing others. Preparing.

    I'm not going to suggest or pretend that I know the answers but at a purely intuitive level, there's a part of me that's convinced we do. Perhaps we just need to let go and feel that.

    In my opinion, this transition will be defined not only by the cycle we're in but how we decide to go through these changes - individually and collectively. We all need to be responsible for our actions and the level of participation we bring to the collective. The ability to open your heart and allow yourself to participate in this experience seems like a pretty important piece. My best guess is that this experience will be different for all of us.

    As many have shared, we're going through is a shift. A shift in consciousness. A change in cycles. I can't help but feel there's much truth in what the indigenous cultures and mystery schools have shared. I feel this particular transition is a unique one. How we get there is is a big part of the "experience". I don't think anyone knows exactly what's going to happen but I do believe an open heart and mind is part of the equation.
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    Here is the link for today's show...it is on wolf spirit radio but they are
    broadcasting still through blogtalkradio --sorry about the previous info,
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    I'm sure it will be screwed up again.

    "In 1946 the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal concluded that without IG Farben the Second World War would simply not have been possible. The Chief Prosecutor, Telford Taylor, warned: "These companies, not the lunatic Nazi fanatics, are the main war criminals. If the guilt of these criminals is not brought to daylight and if they are not punished, they will pose a much greater threat to the future peace of the world than Hitler if he were still alive." Their indictment stated that due to the activities of IG Farben "the life and happiness of all peoples in the world were adversely affected." Charges as grave as fomenting war and killing slave labourers were also added. In his opening statement the Nuremberg Chief Prosecutor pointed out that, "The indictment accuses these men of major responsibility for visiting upon mankind the most searing and catastrophic war in human history. It accuses them of wholesale enslavement, plunder and murder."

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